EPTWhy does everyone love hip hop/rap now? - Page 25
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Laerties
United States361 Posts
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On December 13 2010 16:53 Shockk wrote: The worst part about hiphop/rap isn't the music - which is a matter of taste anyway. I prefer metal and electro, but there are several rap/hiphop songs I enjoy and I wouldn't claim that those are "inferior" kinds of music. What's annoying are some of the people listening to (mainstream) hiphop and their attitude, especially the younger ones. The 15-20 y/o wannabe thugs on the bus, train or elsewhere with their stereo mobile phones playing ridiculously bad hiphop so loud everyone can hear it - those make me go "gaaah, hiphop SUCKS" even though I know it's not alright to judge the whole genre based on that. You don't see that behaviour from young metalheads or techno/trance listeners, who may be annoying in their own way, but aren't nearly as present and numerous as the former ones. US is really different in this regard, you know how you can pretty much spot a hip-hop junkie in Germany by the way he looks and walks, in the US literally everyone gives a listen to hip-hop and it doesn't really change the way they dress and act. But huge percentage of people still listens to old school metal/rock music as well, many radio stations spin it 24/7. USA in general tolerates all kinds of music. | ||
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
I'm glad that the Dirty South style is finally starting to die out, though I'm still not sure where I stand on Lil Wayne and his style. Eminem's return seems to have a good effect on the quality of song out now (artists seem to be stepping up their shit hoping to get Em featured on one of their tracks), Kanye's new stuff is great, Jay-Z I've always seen as a good influence to the style, and thank god Snoop and Dre are still making music. I know we'll never be able to go back to the days when Kurupt and the Ruff Ryders and Tupac were on the radio, but now that dudes like Petey Pablo and Jarule have gone away, I can finally listen to hip hop radio stations again. Also, it helps that modern rock is so godawful. Here in SoCal, KROQ 106.7 used to be the only thing my radio was ever tuned to, but now..... dear god. If only we could get rid of Nikki Minaj.... her verses sound like something I could have wrote in High School. | ||
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fredd
Estonia256 Posts
tell me this isn't art also i hope this thread is the result of sc2 players, cause otherwise i've lost faith in teamliquid | ||
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On December 14 2010 01:45 fredd wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAxgpHWtLC0 tell me this isn't art also i hope this thread is the result of sc2 players, cause otherwise i've lost faith in teamliquid + Show Spoiler + In the silence of the darkness when all are fast asleep I live inside a dream calling to your spirit As a sail calls the wind, hear the angels sing Far beyond the sun across the western sky Reach into the blackness find a silver line In a voice I whisper a candle in the night We'll carry all our dreams in a single beam of light Close your eyes, look into the dream Winds of change will winds of fortune bring Fly away to a rainbow in the sky gold is at the end for each of us to find There the road begins where another one will end Here the four winds know who will break and who will bend All to be the master of the wind Falling stars now light my way My life was written on the wind Clouds above, clouds below High ascend the dreams within When the wind fills the sky the clouds will move aside And there will be the road to all our dreams For any day that stings two better days it brings Nothing is as bad as it seems Close your eyes, look into the dream Wins of change will winds of fortune bring Fly away to a rainbow in the sky gold is at the end for each of us to find There the road begins where another one will end Here the four winds know who will break and who will bend All to be the master of the wind It is art indeed. Art is a weird animal. This thread isn't about art, it's about why hip-hop rather than metal. Hah nice edit. I guess you removed the lyrics because they contained 'Gs thrown on Ds'? Wasn't that bad to tell the truth. | ||
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MrShank
Canada144 Posts
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Unifex
United States68 Posts
The fashion around rap is also quite exquisite and a true testament to the class and allure of our times. Clearly showing off oversized fake diamonds and your underwear is the only way to prove that you are respectable fellow worthy of the ladies attention. | ||
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
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MiniTsunami
United States274 Posts
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fredd
Estonia256 Posts
On December 14 2010 01:52 News wrote: i removed them cause i already posted the song earlier in the thread and forgot about it, but yeah, those lyrics are poetry and true as fuck. why would I remove something for speaking the truth? yeah mainstream hiphop/rap is shit, G's thrown on D's, but so is every other mainstream genre. it's stupid how people generalize. there's just as many genius underground artists / mc's that actually play guitar / instruments WHILE rapping as there are 50 cents in the mainstream. it's just that most people will never discover them.+ Show Spoiler + In the silence of the darkness when all are fast asleep I live inside a dream calling to your spirit As a sail calls the wind, hear the angels sing Far beyond the sun across the western sky Reach into the blackness find a silver line In a voice I whisper a candle in the night We'll carry all our dreams in a single beam of light Close your eyes, look into the dream Winds of change will winds of fortune bring Fly away to a rainbow in the sky gold is at the end for each of us to find There the road begins where another one will end Here the four winds know who will break and who will bend All to be the master of the wind Falling stars now light my way My life was written on the wind Clouds above, clouds below High ascend the dreams within When the wind fills the sky the clouds will move aside And there will be the road to all our dreams For any day that stings two better days it brings Nothing is as bad as it seems Close your eyes, look into the dream Wins of change will winds of fortune bring Fly away to a rainbow in the sky gold is at the end for each of us to find There the road begins where another one will end Here the four winds know who will break and who will bend All to be the master of the wind It is art indeed. Art is a weird animal. This thread isn't about art, it's about why hip-hop rather than metal. Hah nice edit. I guess you removed the lyrics because they contained 'Gs thrown on Ds'? Wasn't that bad to tell the truth. guess i'll repost. someone once said that there's rappers who rap about bitches and money, then there's MC's who rap about rappers rapping about bitches and money. it's kind of true, really. + Show Spoiler + I heard you had a voice like an angel I heard a strange tale About a saint that fell Music became jail These bars I hear you wrapped in 'em Wove in the beats Like the clothing of sheep Wolves tracks - spin 'em Cd's dj's c-notes g's thrown on d's we'll be kings like T.I hope I heard you even sang when you spoke And the emotion you evoked got you choked When your beauty struck a vocal chord broke Boatless dove overboard Look upon the ocean Caught your reflection before the lord's I heard you had a voice like an angel Strange though You were blinded by the light shining from your own halo fell off sort like a rainbow when heaven watched your faint glow fade slow I heard you had a voice like an angel... I heard that fame's a killer that can murder great Princes like Kurt Cobain singing Purple Rain From a distance Hope home ain't a virtual game Nor this cursed place earth Where the dollars and the karma don't circulate The world's a stage And you know this play well Gee I bet you even know how it ends, pray tell Had a voice like an angel, now you score the drama scenes The comedy's the fact We enact what you want to be Had some old songs still stuck in your memory Distorted though So you sort of re-assembled melodies And fine-tuning turned them into single after single In this industry you built so sinfully simple for You to write cuz, a song is what your life was The destiny of stars is their light must Fight dusk With sparks of brilliance to ignite us And of all the billions of stars You were by far the brightest I heard you had a voice like an angel Now its just a light hush... Now you keep everybodys eyes on charts and schedules And the trends trying to stack gold bars and medals They want vessels void and dark as space Fools wanna make stars instead of music that's smart or special Because art at a level that's real can be harder to peddle Business prefers a market that settles for second rate Kill the true artists martyr the rebels That's the system and its straight from the heart of the devil See merchants of dreams sold to souls eyes-wide shut Passin the buck to purchase a pass to buy stuff Workin in this circus get hired up To walk over have-knots on a tight rope Tied up in my gut It's a delicate balance Developin talent Into persons that we worship Yo, it's a hell of a challenge I heard you had a voice like an angel You don't really sing no more But you still running the game so If you don't behave like them They call you crazy And if you wont slave for them They call you lazy Lately Ive started to see why you hate me Hearin' this voice it must be painful To the ears when for years You had a voice like an angel If you don't behave like them They call you crazy And if you wont slave for them They call you lazy Well I say... They wanna take your mind Turn it into a prison Lock you inside Then they call that livin' Well I say... (x2) Smile for the camera Smile for the camera While they take your children Smile for the camera While we rape your women Smile for the camera While we make our millions Smile for the camera While they make their billions Smile for the camera Smile for the camera Smile for the camera... | ||
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
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Broodie
Canada832 Posts
ill do this later but provide the youtube link if possible Im on me phonics There really shouldnt be any arguments here since the ones ive read are unnecessarily defensive and provokative to a stupid degree. If youre not gonna have an intelligent discussion (theres none here) than please dont post ive made a lot of types of music they are all equal in relativity to the difficulty of composition i find metal a bit more challenging but thats because you have to collaborate with many others while in my hiphop and electronic experience ive had a lot of self composition which is easier personally. If you complain aboot lyrical content of rap, dont post. You obviously havent dug deep into the underground scene I am justin, a pure metalhead defending rap and hiphop to a degree. I will not defend mainstream media though but my link will be born of osiris and dre | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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Garamor
Canada22 Posts
In relation to metal there's a few differences. Due to the huge amount of genres of metal, you can't really categorize all of metal to be one thing. Some metal might focus on melodic riffs which can really set the tone for a song, while other songs are focused onto more monotonous riffs. Both can be equally catchy, depending on the ear listening to them. As for music generally accepted by the public, it's typically the metal that is just growling and sounds like absolute garbage(sorry, but I'm being opinionated here) with no melodic flow or any regards to some kind of timings that is shone light upon. That's what metal is associated with, and that's what turns most people away from listening to it in the first place. | ||
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RivetHead
United States842 Posts
one of my favorite hip hop songs ever. RZA one of the few producers in hip hop who can create true musical art. Wu tang clan is probably my favorite group in Hip hop by far. Windir - Fagning IMHO the greatest black metal band of all time and its not even close. Valfar was a true genius the like of which comes along very rarely in any artform, and its a tragedy that he died so young right when it seemed Windir was gonna change everything. This song is great, but it might take a while to grown on you. If you listen from 4:20 until the end of the song when the song to me enters the realm of perfection and can be compared to any great classical song, rock song, hip hop or whatever song ever made. | ||
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Trite
United States6 Posts
"When you first put on a song, do you hear the lyrics or the music first?" If you hear the lyrics before the music, you are likely to enjoy hip hop. If you hear the music before you hear the lyrics, you are likely to like metal more. The people that hear music before the lyrics will likely hate hip hop because there is no tone to song. The beats are meant to support the voice and the lyrics are the main focus. Meanwhile, people that like hip hop wont enjoy metal because the lyrics are typically either too pretentious to clearly understand or are not very enjoyable (talking about death/the devils/etc.). The whole point with metal is that the lyrics are supposed to act as an extra instrument that is in tune with the rest of the music. Anyways, My taste in music changes monthly. I enjoy almost all types of rock/metal and a few hip hop groups. I really like Funk music so it blends in well between the two genres. As of right now I've been listening to ISIS and The Secret Chiefs 3 the most. | ||
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fredd
Estonia256 Posts
On December 14 2010 05:00 Trite wrote: There is a lot of hate on this thread for something that is trivial. There is a simple question to ask yourself for why someone likes either metal or hip hop: "When you first put on a song, do you hear the lyrics or the music first?" If you hear the lyrics before the music, you are likely to enjoy hip hop. If you hear the music before you hear the lyrics, you are likely to like metal more. The people that hear music before the lyrics will likely hate hip hop because there is no tone to song. The beats are meant to support the voice and the lyrics are the main focus. Meanwhile, people that like hip hop wont enjoy metal because the lyrics are typically either too pretentious to clearly understand or are not very enjoyable (talking about death/the devils/etc.). The whole point with metal is that the lyrics are supposed to act as an extra instrument that is in tune with the rest of the music. Anyways, My taste in music changes monthly. I enjoy almost all types of rock/metal and a few hip hop groups. I really like Funk music so it blends in well between the two genres. As of right now I've been listening to ISIS and The Secret Chiefs 3 the most. i listen to music first and still enjoy hip-hop over metal, along with 20th century romantic, jazz, blues, idm, dub etc. so there goes your theory.. | ||
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Trite
United States6 Posts
On December 14 2010 05:06 fredd wrote: i listen to music first and still enjoy hip-hop over metal, along with 20th century romantic, jazz, blues, idm, dub etc. so there goes your theory.. Well hip-hop and metal are obviously not the only genres of music in the world. I brought up the two because that was the main focus. Jazz would be the most prevalent for putting music over lyrics so the concept still stands. | ||
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LaLLsc2
United States502 Posts
On December 14 2010 05:00 Trite wrote: There is a lot of hate on this thread for something that is trivial. I was thinking the same thing. This thread seems to attract jealous / pretentious people. | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote: ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently: 1) partying. 2) alcohol 3) sex 4) booty There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it. Wow way to speak without having any knowledge whatsoever on hip-hop. Oh and people like Kid Cudi, Kanye West, Eminem, etc are seriously overrated imo. They used to be great but they are way past their prime. Tons of good hip-hop music out there. Many of you guys are just not looking hard enough. | ||
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