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SaYyId
Portugal277 Posts
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TALegion
United States1187 Posts
On December 11 2010 13:27 Airbag wrote: You're gonna look pretty stupid when Justin Bieber becomes Dream Theaters next drummer Don't even joke about that. I took a class on basic drums so that I could better understand them and their purpose in rock. I did this so I could incorporate them in my songs that I write for my band more. My basic drums are more complex than Justin Bieber's solo. Even doing a mental comparison of Bieber and Portnoy is fucking sinister... | ||
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r3z3nd3
Brazil522 Posts
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Airbag
Japan77 Posts
On December 12 2010 02:19 TALegion wrote: Don't even joke about that. I took a class on basic drums so that I could better understand them and their purpose in rock. I did this so I could incorporate them in my songs that I write for my band more. My basic drums are more complex than Justin Bieber's solo. Even doing a mental comparison of Bieber and Portnoy is fucking sinister... Bieber sings and plays multiple instruments therefore he's more talented then Mike Portonoy. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19152 Posts
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
On December 12 2010 02:09 News wrote: There are no haters. I don't understand this mentality, does it give you extra motivation to think that someone is "hating" on the genre? Rap has some gems, that's beyond the point. Actually everything we discuss here is beyond the point, originally the question was - why does everyone love hip-hop/rap these days. Which is not true to say the least, rap was way bigger 5-10 years ago, if anything people mostly spin pop, senseless autotuned hip-hop (basically degenerated into dance music) and pop-rock. Lol no haters? Have you read through this thread at all? And yes, I've heard the Blackstar album at parties before, hip-hop works just fine. Now if you're talking club music, well of course they play Top40 nonsense. That's what the masses want. As far as gems go, again, that is the point. There's more that just a couple of gems. There's plenty of good stuff out there, you just need to make an effort. Haters of hip-hop always point to a random top40 song and say, "see - this sounds like shit." Well no kidding, it's Top40. Do you expect a non-sellout to be featured on the airwaves? You can't have it both ways. We discuss that the mainstream stuff sounds like crap because it contributes to people painting hip-hop with a broad brush. | ||
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TALegion
United States1187 Posts
On December 12 2010 02:32 Airbag wrote: Bieber sings and plays multiple instruments therefore he's more talented then Mike Portonoy. I can't tell if that's a sarcastic/troll post. Just in case it isn't,,,, + Show Spoiler + Portnoy: Neil Peart: John Bohnam: Playing multiple instruments with regular skill doesn't mean you are more respectable as someone with mastery of one/few. In fact, it doesn't even make you equal. Hendrix didn't play multiple instruments. He's still THE MAN. Freddy Mercury only played piano and sang well. But those two talents carried Queen to it's place of fame. Geddy Lee plays below average piano (in comparison to most musicians who even make use of it), his singing it a turn-off for most people, but his bass playing is beyond magnificent. All of them are still poster-children for music. The idea of liberal arts isn't universally applied to everything that you can do, period. It's you can do well. DaVinci was an amazing engineer and painter, and is remembered for both. That's only two things. Geoffrey Chaucer was a politcian, astronomer, knight, business man, philosopher and POET, but his his poetry is really the only factor of his that is very noticeable, so few people even know of his many other occupations. The man with two talents is probably known by 5x as many people as the man with six. Being good at few things > Being average at many. | ||
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news
892 Posts
On December 12 2010 02:46 mav451 wrote: Lol no haters? Have you read through this thread at all? And yes, I've heard the Blackstar album at parties before, hip-hop works just fine. Now if you're talking club music, well of course they play Top40 nonsense. That's what the masses want. As far as gems go, again, that is the point. There's more that just a couple of gems. There's plenty of good stuff out there, you just need to make an effort. Haters of hip-hop always point to a random top40 song and say, "see - this sounds like shit." Well no kidding, it's Top40. Do you expect a non-sellout to be featured on the airwaves? You can't have it both ways. We discuss that the mainstream stuff sounds like crap because it contributes to people painting hip-hop with a broad brush. And I've heard Dying Fetus at the parties before. And I promise you some generic Metallica song was played million more times at the parties compared to Blackstar album. Get real, nobody wants to hear it besides enthusiasts and fans. Show me a Blackstar song on youtube that has anywhere close to the number of views Disturbed songs get. Fuck, in this regard metal is more popular than hip-hop, is it not? You have to account for 'masses' because that's exactly what OP was asking about. He wasn't wondering about some clique that spins raw raps in the basement while getting high talking about the struggle. He meant overall popularity, shit you hear on the radio and MTV. | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
On December 12 2010 03:25 News wrote: And I've heard Dying Fetus at the parties before. And I promise you some generic Metallica song was played million more times at the parties compared to Blackstar album. Get real, nobody wants to hear it besides enthusiasts and fans. Show me a Blackstar song on youtube that has anywhere close to the number of views Disturbed songs get. Fuck, in this regard metal is more popular than hip-hop, is it not? You have to account for 'masses' because that's exactly what OP was asking about. He wasn't wondering about some clique that spins raw raps in the basement while getting high talking about the struggle. He meant overall popularity, shit you hear on the radio and MTV. Well at least we know what your real feelings are, lol. | ||
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AnAngryDingo
United States223 Posts
any rap made post- biggie and 2pac is probably trash. believe it or not, lil wayne, i don't care about your cars, your bitches, or how much money you have son | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On December 11 2010 16:35 DisBabylonSystem wrote: Because people are getting less intelligent as time goes on... On December 11 2010 17:13 MahatmaSC2 wrote: I thought this was pretty interesting. http://musicthatmakesyoudumb.virgil.gr/ I have an SAT score higher than any average in that graph and I listen to Jay-Z and Lil Wayne (but Rebirth was terribad). | ||
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r3z3nd3
Brazil522 Posts
On December 12 2010 02:33 BisuDagger wrote: All I can say is all my friends listen to some form of metal. And if I could name drop one band, Amon Amarth! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-UbViuK4fY Death In Fire is a masterpiece. And I can tell you, rap / hip hop is way more popular in North America, whereas Metal is more popular in Europe and Japan =P | ||
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DisBabylonSystem
56 Posts
On December 12 2010 05:50 jalstar wrote: I have an SAT score higher than any average in that graph and I listen to Jay-Z and Lil Wayne (but Rebirth was terribad). Do you listen to the words? Especially lil wayne, that guy is an idoit. | ||
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Lamphead
Canada241 Posts
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On December 12 2010 03:25 News wrote: And I've heard Dying Fetus at the parties before. And I promise you some generic Metallica song was played million more times at the parties compared to Blackstar album. Get real, nobody wants to hear it besides enthusiasts and fans. Show me a Blackstar song on youtube that has anywhere close to the number of views Disturbed songs get. Fuck, in this regard metal is more popular than hip-hop, is it not? You have to account for 'masses' because that's exactly what OP was asking about. He wasn't wondering about some clique that spins raw raps in the basement while getting high talking about the struggle. He meant overall popularity, shit you hear on the radio and MTV. Hey asshole, how about you stop all this pretentious douchebaggery? Just because you dont see us doesnt mean were some obscure "clique that spins raw raps in the basement while getting high talking about the struggle". You arent a fan of hip hop, of course the only hip hop youre gonna hear is top 40 on the radio. Most of the people i hang out with nowadays dont listen to metal, but im not gonna say that metal fans are just cliques that shoot up while trying to find meaning in their power chords. I think its pathetic that you generalize all of us who listen to non-mainstream hip hop as potheads and losers. Back in the day, I used to hang out with people who only listened to metal. These kids were the ones who smoked pot every day, got busted for doing shrooms, and nearly dropped out of high school. I also knew other people who liked metal who are successful. My point is, theres all kinds of people who like all kinds of music. Stop being a dick. OP might be asking about the mainstream raps, but thats only because of ignorance. Because he hasnt heard underground and good oldschool, he thinks rap in general is shallow and lacking in skill. Just look at the original post, hes not really looking for an answer to his own question. All hes doing is being a bitch and insulting the hip hop genre while trying to avoid direct backlash by acting like hes asking a legitimate question. Just like you, youre trying to reframe the original intent of the OP so you can go on to express your disdain and ignorance of the hip hop genre without being labeled as a hater. You can dislike hip hop, Im totally fine with that. But labeling and judging hip hop fans as loser potheads while touting your music genres youtube views is just ridiculous. | ||
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TheTuna
United States286 Posts
On December 10 2010 16:23 MahatmaSC2 wrote: Some of the people here are confirming what my friend was saying -- he doesn't like metal because you can't sing or dance to it. Is that seriously a reason why people don't like it? That's a huge part of it; metal is just not really party music (unfortunately). I love metal, but I also enjoy a good dose of some classy 40s music, personally. | ||
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DeSu
Australia91 Posts
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
What is this madness? | ||
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GP
United States1056 Posts
On December 12 2010 16:39 DeSu wrote: as a fan of electronic dance music, I gotta say that the "computer generated noise" referred to by OP does take skill in itself. I'm not sure about its use in hip hip/rap beats and all, but EDM producers/djs have to have a lot of skill to do what they do as well. Its just a different kind of skill as opposed to playing a guitar or other instrument, and most producers play instruments as well anyway. Besides, music is entirely subjective, people should just enjoy what they like and not hate on what they don't like. Nobody likes an indie musical elitist. This. Musical skill doesn't equal instrumental skill. You try doing some of the things electronic DJs do live. Go ahead and check out some of the things DJ Shadow does live and tell me he's not skilled. Get off your high horse and expand your musical horizon. There's more out there than metal (and Korn and Cannibal Corpse are very bad metal), songwriting is a skill, rapping is a skill (it's not talking, by calling rapping talking you're insulting every beat poet that ever lived), DJing is a skill, tell me you can do anything The Bomb Squad can do and I call bull shit, producing is a skill, etc. On December 11 2010 22:39 agarangu wrote: This is how hard it is to sing Hip-hop + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgX-NCNakpo And this + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + Are you that naive? Try this: + Show Spoiler + I'd like to see you write something with a rhyme scheme that complex and then perform it without looking like an idiot. Really, how many notes you can play in a second on a guitar does not equate to musical skill, get over yourself. | ||
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MewDuB
United States10 Posts
On December 12 2010 02:28 r3z3nd3 wrote: I don't. I'm with you on this. Al though I just recently got hooked on Dubstep  | ||
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