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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 04 2015 14:25 GMT
#3061
How should i start a game off as Muscovy? Basically im really new to this game.

i did okay as the Ottomans(could probably actually finish a game as them if i played it thru but they are pretty easy)
any tips for a beginner tho?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4736 Posts
December 04 2015 14:53 GMT
#3062
Attack Novogrod early. Ally Poland if they dont insta rival You. If they do, Hungary, Denmark might be good options. Be carefull fighting hordes as they sometimes ally Ottomans. Expand east, its worth it. If Denamrk rivals You support of Swedish independance might be good option.

A genral advice: Be carefull take Your time and strike when enemy is weak. Let others do the heavy lifting.
Pathetic Greta hater.
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
December 04 2015 15:03 GMT
#3063
Actually there's no rush to attack Novgorod. Attack Ryazan first and wait for Golden Horde to declare on them, vassalize Ryazan and now you can take a whole bunch of Golden Horde land with the Tribal Conquest CB (no dip cost and very little AE), just feed it to Ryazan because all that Sunni land will cause trouble if you take it yourself so early. After that you can take on Novgorod and feed as much land as possible to your vassals except the Novgorod province, leave that for the 2nd war. Cancel the mission to conquer Novgorod and do any other mission until the truce timer is up, then you have the mission available again, just for their remaining provinces and thus no rush to integrate your vassals.
I wouldn't ally Poland because there is all that Russian culture land in Lithuania that you ideally want for yourself.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6261 Posts
December 04 2015 15:41 GMT
#3064
I've never played Muscovy myself but maybe Austria is a good ally? They're strong and can help you with the Commonwealth while they're far enough away that you don't want to eat their land untill a lot later.
SCguineapig
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Netherlands289 Posts
December 04 2015 15:56 GMT
#3065
On December 05 2015 00:41 RvB wrote:
I've never played Muscovy myself but maybe Austria is a good ally? They're strong and can help you with the Commonwealth while they're far enough away that you don't want to eat their land untill a lot later.



When I played muscovy (quite a while ago) austria turned out to be a usefull ally, it was the first and only time I saw the entire HRE form, which pretty much killed my western expansion .
broodwar wasn't perfect
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 04 2015 17:09 GMT
#3066
Ive kind of got it down a bit(this game is worse than civ on the whole 1 more turn thing btw)
doing good as the Ottomans now, not that thats a huge achievement.

but ive kinda got getting cbs, waiting on tech to fight, building up manpower for big wars.
and not trying to annex giant nations but completely annexing little ones.

also i usually wait till a country(serbia wallachia w/e) revolts before i move on to trying to conquer something else
this way i dont worry about it in the future
is that a good way to play?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 18:06:33
December 04 2015 17:57 GMT
#3067
damn the rebels this patch sure are something. decided to lower autonomy on russian area, spews out ~180k rebels. Fun times. and there's 2 more incoming

probably lost like 5-10 years on the WC from doing that. 360k rebels are probably more than France + Ottomans + Austria could field, and they have my tech which makes them super dangerous.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-04 19:09:00
December 04 2015 19:01 GMT
#3068
It's like 1510, ive taken serbia albania wallachia(w/e) most of qara and all of the territories leading up to it
and also occupy mumlaks down to gaza and jerusalem

how am i doing so far? Have alliances with Persia,Bohemia and this other large arabic faction

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/387670748341352371/46EC968AE5C2C06C657B3F7038FC60B2E0DBC7C0/
thats me so far, have admin 9 diplo 9 and military 10 i think
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
December 04 2015 21:09 GMT
#3069
Decided to try a colonizing game with the new new world.

I basically got a South America and two North Americas.

[image loading]

Absolutely massive. 17 Colonial regions instead of the standard 11. Some of the ocean/sea names are used twice too.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
December 05 2015 01:08 GMT
#3070
This new patch introduced yet another mana system. HoI 4 already confirmed to have mana as well.

What's up with Paradox and their recent mana hardon?
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 05 2015 01:14 GMT
#3071
so, cossacks worth getting?
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-05 01:35:14
December 05 2015 01:34 GMT
#3072
On December 05 2015 02:09 arb wrote:
Ive kind of got it down a bit(this game is worse than civ on the whole 1 more turn thing btw)
doing good as the Ottomans now, not that thats a huge achievement.

but ive kinda got getting cbs, waiting on tech to fight, building up manpower for big wars.
and not trying to annex giant nations but completely annexing little ones.

also i usually wait till a country(serbia wallachia w/e) revolts before i move on to trying to conquer something else
this way i dont worry about it in the future
is that a good way to play?


Any way is a good way to play this. Personally, I think I had more fun when I was just chilling and trying to "fulfill my historic fantasy" than when I was powergaming everything.
Bora Pain minha porra!
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-05 03:34:29
December 05 2015 03:31 GMT
#3073
ideas? tech? expansion? development? culture changing things to russian for absolutely no reason?

play a horde and you can have all five! (one-tag here we come? just need to pick a good war and I can start tearing apart Western Europe by feeding Burgundy)

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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
December 05 2015 07:08 GMT
#3074
On December 05 2015 04:01 arb wrote:
It's like 1510, ive taken serbia albania wallachia(w/e) most of qara and all of the territories leading up to it
and also occupy mumlaks down to gaza and jerusalem

how am i doing so far? Have alliances with Persia,Bohemia and this other large arabic faction

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/387670748341352371/46EC968AE5C2C06C657B3F7038FC60B2E0DBC7C0/
thats me so far, have admin 9 diplo 9 and military 10 i think

pretty good, if you want a challenge you can try taking Vienna from Austria
?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 05 2015 07:58 GMT
#3075
On December 05 2015 16:08 419 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 04:01 arb wrote:
It's like 1510, ive taken serbia albania wallachia(w/e) most of qara and all of the territories leading up to it
and also occupy mumlaks down to gaza and jerusalem

how am i doing so far? Have alliances with Persia,Bohemia and this other large arabic faction

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/387670748341352371/46EC968AE5C2C06C657B3F7038FC60B2E0DBC7C0/
thats me so far, have admin 9 diplo 9 and military 10 i think

pretty good, if you want a challenge you can try taking Vienna from Austria

I wanted to take the rest of QQ but albania is getting big and is currently taking all of them + some of persia atm
so i thought id probably kill them after their war ends knowing they'll be low on mp and shit
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4736 Posts
December 05 2015 09:41 GMT
#3076
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 05 2015 12:31 419 wrote:
ideas? tech? expansion? development? culture changing things to russian for absolutely no reason?

play a horde and you can have all five! (one-tag here we come? just need to pick a good war and I can start tearing apart Western Europe by feeding Burgundy)

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Looks ridiculous. One question though. Whats Your max manpower? I see You are running pretty low for that big country.
Pathetic Greta hater.
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
December 05 2015 13:52 GMT
#3077
Did you guys buy the new expansion? I read, that diplomacy changed a lot. Is this a free feature or is it only included in the expansion? I am not sure whether I want to pay 20 Euro for it since I am not really interested in the Hordes. What do you guys think about it?
mind mind mind mind mind mind
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6261 Posts
December 05 2015 14:08 GMT
#3078
http://www.eu4wiki.com/The_Cossacks

Go there to see what's paid and free and then make your decision yourself. I won't buy it but I haven't played a lot of EU4 lately so that's why. I'll pick it up when it's on sale sometime.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-06 16:28:41
December 06 2015 16:28 GMT
#3079
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My first and last one-tag WC
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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
December 06 2015 16:41 GMT
#3080
wat.

It takes you 100 years to conquer a chunk of Asia, Europe, Africa and to take care of remaining natives.

I haven't played in ages, but I guess you got the huge amount of monarch points required by razing provinces?
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