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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 16:52:45
February 06 2015 16:50 GMT
#2441
Ok. About as lucky a start as I could hope for.

Uzbek and Chaga + me vs. Buryatia + Oirat, easy peasy. If you fight Esen Taishi with a full flank (sortie is MASSIVE HELP) you can neuter his 5 shock. Sort of:

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Full annex and release Buryatia, take some provinces off Oirat. Next up is attack Ming immediately. They are on temple and have some guys but zero manpower + steppe attrition is killer.

[image loading]

Gotta play super aggressive here, Muscovy had the correct start (attack Novgorod immediately). They will be taking expansion. Can't focus too much on ripping into China. I will loot them but I must turn on Uzbek ASAP.
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6294 Posts
February 06 2015 16:56 GMT
#2442
I always forget using sortie =/ Haven't used it at all. My Ming is totally Balkanized so I'm waiting so I can vassalize it and then I'll war the other Chinese states non stop to feed them.

How do you upload your images with such nice resolution btw?
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 19:25:50
February 06 2015 17:00 GMT
#2443
F11 takes an ingame screenshot, as opposed to steam function

edit: ohh damn

[image loading]
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6294 Posts
February 06 2015 20:52 GMT
#2444
Lol 6 shock + horde cav is unbeatable early game. I've seen your thread on the paradox forum so I'll be following that .
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1964 Posts
February 08 2015 22:54 GMT
#2445
Could someone please explain to me how the ki gets troup access through the land of his rival? -80 opinion, how exactly does the ki just walk through that? if i am trying the same thing, it's basically -150 reasons against me.

Also, anybody got some tipps how to start as a very small indian country (Kathiawar)? I tried befriending Vijayanagar and just doing the usual, but it's like HRE in orient, after 2 good wars i am facing a huge coalition i can just not deal with. So i tried doing the ryuku start, building up a decent powerbase in india, then take champa and roll over s.e. asia. Problem with that is, it only works if you get a diplomatic constellation that seems to only happen once every 2378 years. Khmer, Lan Xang and Dai Viet are all three too big to vassalize in one bite and and just takiong one bite out of them feeding it to champa results in 90 ae, so now it's you + champa vs s.e. asia. you would basically need khmer or lanxang to lose really hard in their first war which is just not happening.

So i tried getting into gulf of aden but they have mil tech 3, so, nooo. And just waiting 50 years until you might have exploration and can do some cheesy westernisation strat is way too slow.

So....any tipps?
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-08 23:17:57
February 08 2015 23:17 GMT
#2446
i feel that any serious expansion as a small nation requires influence ideas for the reduced aggressive expansion impact. otherwise youll be crushed by coalitions 95% of the time
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
February 08 2015 23:38 GMT
#2447
How do you have 2575 money at year 1458 and still having a positive budget?
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 08 2015 23:42 GMT
#2448
I would guess looting Ming plays a good part in that.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
February 09 2015 00:32 GMT
#2449
I'm not familiar with looting mechanics but I guess he would have to be looting from 1444 to 1458, the entirety of Ming to get that amount of money.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 00:50:57
February 09 2015 00:47 GMT
#2450
Hordes get double from looting and Mig has like 500 base tax. It's quite a bit less time than 14 years.

Since Ming still has an army in that screenshot I guess that's not the case, but just a couple of years looting Ming and you already get a shitton of money.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 05:28:21
February 09 2015 05:27 GMT
#2451
500 base tax would give you 2000 ducats an year with perfect looting.

Its hard to do that. I tend to average around 500 ducats an year looting Ming. But its a lot better than any other income source that early.
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 07:20:08
February 09 2015 07:18 GMT
#2452
On February 09 2015 08:17 Irratonalys wrote:
i feel that any serious expansion as a small nation requires influence ideas for the reduced aggressive expansion impact. otherwise youll be crushed by coalitions 95% of the time

I almost never take influence and coalitions are fine. For India, you have to get acquainted with AE mechanics:

* Warfare against heathen immediately generates an addition 50% of base AE. So Hindu vs Muslim and Muslim vs Hindu violence will result in extra AE penalties. So a Hindu like Vijay will get in massive trouble if they start chainsawing through Malwa especially.
* Know your cultural groups. There are 4 main cultural groups in India. You will generate more AE in the cultural group you take land from.

My general gameplay rule in the area is to avoid provoking the Timurids into a coalition. The best use of your AE against Muslims is vassaling Malwa imo. They have a great king ensuring they'll be able to do decent miltech wise.
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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1964 Posts
February 09 2015 12:44 GMT
#2453
That is solid advice, thanks. Didn't know AE is getting worse for heathen. Yuck.

The nice thing yout s.e. asia is, that they are isolated cultural and religious wise. If you ever get rolling there, you can take the whole thing without anybody else noticing. It's a wet dream for expansion, but i can't pull it off. And alternating between India and S.E. Asia is bad, because once you start to roll, you cannot have someone in coalition elsewhere. And the only way to do the S.E.Asia thing is to mass AE. So, i either wait for that perfect moment when either Lan Xang, Khmer or Dai Viet are manageable and small enough to vassalize and just rip through them all afterwards, or i play it conservatively and just nibble :/ Damn.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 15:29:19
February 09 2015 15:22 GMT
#2454
[image loading]

My Golden Horde game. Attempting "Turning the Tide" and "Great Khan". Kazakh, Kazan, Shivran and Gazikumh as Vassals. Best budies with Ottomans (even realesed circassia [was my vassal] so they could gank their ass). I love the sultan, really. Already reformed the governemnt. I get shitty kings though and things are moving slowly. Right now i am finishing muscovoy, wondering if its vialable to release them after i annex them, so they can bash everyone for me. No commonwealth this games (ther wasnt PU Poland-Lithuania at any point in the game). Notice how huge Austria is. Its my third game in row when they blob in this shape.

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Next stop is Timurids while i slowly eat Oriat. I leave ottomans for last, somthing like 1770+ i just need few provinces from them cause they are in Russian region.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
February 09 2015 15:47 GMT
#2455
Some vassals are activly making claims, while some are not. Can I influnce it in some way? Any tips?
Pathetic Greta hater.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6294 Posts
February 09 2015 20:12 GMT
#2456
On February 10 2015 00:47 Silvanel wrote:
Some vassals are activly making claims, while some are not. Can I influnce it in some way? Any tips?

They make claims on rivals but it seems a bit random. Sometimes they do make claims and other times they don't.

In my Mongolia game it's 1560 and I'm progressing too slow for my taste =/. Should I reform the government, I'm not sure if I will...
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
February 09 2015 22:14 GMT
#2457
On February 10 2015 00:47 Silvanel wrote:
Some vassals are activly making claims, while some are not. Can I influnce it in some way? Any tips?

Same culture and religion also helps. But no, they do as they please with claims pretty much.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12122 Posts
February 09 2015 22:44 GMT
#2458
On February 10 2015 07:14 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 00:47 Silvanel wrote:
Some vassals are activly making claims, while some are not. Can I influnce it in some way? Any tips?

Same culture and religion also helps. But no, they do as they please with claims pretty much.


Could it be mission based? They only do it when they have the mission for it?
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
February 10 2015 05:06 GMT
#2459
[image loading]

Probably the prettiest borders I'm going to have during this Mongolia campaign.
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
February 10 2015 06:12 GMT
#2460
I remeber in my Poland game that Moldavia was spamming claims pretty much on everyone not me. At some point the had claims on every ottoman province they they bordered. (And i feeded them a lot, and they continued to make claims). WHile in my GH game Kazakh and Kazan are making no claims.

Marshes are better at it? Some inherent modifire to countrys agresivness? Surplus points depndant? I have to load the polish game and check Moldavias ideas.
Pathetic Greta hater.
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