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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 12:10:53
February 05 2015 12:10 GMT
#2421
re: my exploit.

If you play a Lebanon start in a very specific way, you'll see there's something very strange about your diplomatic situation...
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6294 Posts
February 05 2015 16:30 GMT
#2422
419 have you started your Mongolia campaign yet and if so how is it going?

In the independence war against Oirat I had help from Uzbek and Chagatai and Oirat was allied with Kochin. I took my core back from Kochin after which Uzbek and Chagatai peaced out. Then I got my independence by sieging Oirats stuff faster than he did mine and taking out 1 stacks with my 6! maneuver general. After that I vassalized Buryatia and it's 1457 now.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 16:39:41
February 05 2015 16:35 GMT
#2423
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My first game on 1.9.2, I played 1.1 before

A bit disappointed that I didn't really reach the Indian ocean, the China coast and the Atlantic from my NA colonies, but I didn't really want to just yolo it and fight rebels for the last years

Thinking about playing Brandenburg or Denmark/Sweden next

Also how I feel
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 16:41:09
February 05 2015 16:40 GMT
#2424
On February 06 2015 01:30 RvB wrote:
419 have you started your Mongolia campaign yet and if so how is it going?

In the independence war against Oirat I had help from Uzbek and Chagatai and Oirat was allied with Kochin. I took my core back from Kochin after which Uzbek and Chagatai peaced out. Then I got my independence by sieging Oirats stuff faster than he did mine and taking out 1 stacks with my 6! maneuver general. After that I vassalized Buryatia and it's 1457 now.

I don't have CoP, so trying to make things work with no support independence. It seems doable with good unit control as long as Korchin doesn't get involved.

Might bitch out and get CoP but I figure I will give it a few more tries

I've been mostly testing a vassal feeding exploit for El Dorado though. There are certain situations where the AI is hardlocked out of declaring independence wars, it seems.
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HiIamBrett
Profile Joined August 2013
56 Posts
February 05 2015 17:46 GMT
#2425
My push west may have agitated some western powers.

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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 05 2015 20:40 GMT
#2426
My Aachen game is dreadfully slow without able to take ideas for another 300 years. I unlocked the merchant republic around the 1120s, but I still can't switch to the fucking thing because apparently I need trade + economic ideas researched, and a maximum of 20 provinces.

I think I'ma let my republican tradition run down to zero and then switch to a monarchy while I'm still nice and stable. Then I can finally get my seaports and start colonizing stuff properly. But that's for later.

Guess my next adventure shall be an Aragonese trading empire, and then maybe if El Dorado is released soon I'll pick an African country and colonize the world or something. With Ironman on for once.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
HiIamBrett
Profile Joined August 2013
56 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 20:52:03
February 05 2015 20:50 GMT
#2427
I'm thinking of poking the hornet nest. Whats the point of having 600k manpower if I don't use it?

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The heretics need to pay!!

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Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 22:00:08
February 05 2015 21:56 GMT
#2428
I love Paradox games and Europa Universalis series, but what they did with EU IV just blow my mind. I have over 500 hours on it with all expansions, and i still come back from time to time when i see new patch or DLC. They are constantly changing/tweaking the game even without expansions u get some new stuff. I have much respect for Paradox. One of the best games ever. And i didnt even tried Ironman (feels kinda slow), multiplayer or mods yet!

Im also kinda hyped for next expansion as it will have the better "Fantasia" like scenario it seems.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 06 2015 04:03 GMT
#2429
I kinda wish assassination of monarchs was an option with Espionage ideas - like high risk high reward, success means it's blamed on some sort of pretenders or whatever, failure means massive outrage penalties to the countries around you.

The PU game is powerful but god is it hard to sit on my ass and hope that old king doesn't shit out a son just before he dies
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2015 05:30 GMT
#2430
On February 06 2015 13:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I kinda wish assassination of monarchs was an option with Espionage ideas - like high risk high reward, success means it's blamed on some sort of pretenders or whatever, failure means massive outrage penalties to the countries around you.

The PU game is powerful but god is it hard to sit on my ass and hope that old king doesn't shit out a son just before he dies


I agree! I feel like the espionage group has a lot of potential to be super badass, but in general isn't it pretty worthless in its current state? Assassination would be amazing.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 06:01:26
February 06 2015 06:00 GMT
#2431
Also, I can't wait for Russophile tears if Muscovy's vassals tear them to pieces after a few bad wars.

I am legitimately excited to play El Dorado, and that's speaking as someone who doesn't have a whole lot of interest in the New World religions.
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
February 06 2015 09:32 GMT
#2432
Yeah i kinda like the idea of monarch assasination etc. But they need to be VERY carefull with the way PU are working right now. Its a clear and wide road to exploits.
Pathetic Greta hater.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 06 2015 11:42 GMT
#2433
Really liking the new liberty desire change. But I wonder how that will work for revoking the previlegia? Unless you massivly blob out (or is russia) how will anyone ever be able to maintain the HRE
EZ4ENCE
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
February 06 2015 12:09 GMT
#2434
Started new game as Golden Horde. I am attempting Great Khan and Turning the Tide. I am not using any exploits but i think its doable even for a cusual like me.
Pathetic Greta hater.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 12:27:48
February 06 2015 12:20 GMT
#2435
Really liking the new liberty desire change. But I wonder how that will work for revoking the previlegia? Unless you massivly blob out (or is russia) how will anyone ever be able to maintain the HRE

Ewiger Landfriede disallows HRE members from declaring on each other.

Also, Korchin+Oirat vs me seems a bit too hard (for scrub like me), without anyone to support independence. Have to roll 3+ shock to even not get blown out vs first Oirat battle, even with sortie giving full flank

Oirat 1v1 is easy though. Korchin seems to ally 80%+ of the time due to friendliness, and the few early times where Korchin didn't get called in I threw my advantage doing dumb stuff (don't recruit cav in border provinces mmk)
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6294 Posts
February 06 2015 12:27 GMT
#2436
yeah the 5 shock general is ridiculous. Even when you're the defender it obliterates your army.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 12:34:04
February 06 2015 12:31 GMT
#2437
I remember watching a streamed run of this and Esen Taishi literally dies in the first week. Here's hoping that happens. Going to bitch out and get CoP. GG pay2win (guess I can finally play a NA indian tribe though~~)

To punish myself for this, I think I will try to win a war against France as unreformed horde. So I need to dive into the HRE as fast as possible.

What religion are you converting to, if any? Sunni is the easiest but Hindu is stronger bonus-wise (though not missionary strength wise)
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pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
February 06 2015 15:09 GMT
#2438
How does the support heir thing work exactly?

I have dedicated one diplomat to support poland's heir for a loooong time (now commonwealth)

Does it give me a chance to get into a PU with them? Is it really worth losing one diplomat for that long?
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
February 06 2015 15:27 GMT
#2439
It only gives you a chance to place a member of your dynasty on the throne.
If you want to PU them, you will have to time it in a way, that the king of your dynasty manages to reform into the absolute monarchy and then try to snag a PU. That however is only possible later in the game
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6294 Posts
February 06 2015 15:27 GMT
#2440
On February 06 2015 21:31 419 wrote:
I remember watching a streamed run of this and Esen Taishi literally dies in the first week. Here's hoping that happens. Going to bitch out and get CoP. GG pay2win (guess I can finally play a NA indian tribe though~~)

To punish myself for this, I think I will try to win a war against France as unreformed horde. So I need to dive into the HRE as fast as possible.

What religion are you converting to, if any? Sunni is the easiest but Hindu is stronger bonus-wise (though not missionary strength wise)


I won't convert. Converting all those proinces after you convert is too much of a bother for me. In addition it's the first time I'm playing buddhist so I'll stay with it. It's the first time I'm playing a horde too . Not sure if I'll reform but I think I will. I'm taking administrative to stack the coring cost reduction and innovative for the - war exhaustion anyway.

I had to restart =/. Oirat attacked me when I had no manpower, while I was sieging my king died and so my army was leaderless but I wasn't really paying attention so they wrecked my amy with their 5 shock. After that Korea declared as well and I died.

The restart is going a lot better though. With the help of Uzbek gaining independence isn't really hard. This time Uzbek actually killed Oirats army so I took some provinces from Oirat in the peace deal. After that I attacked Kochin and got some provinces as well. Ming is dealing with a lot of rebels and the rebels gave me one province . Yeren attacked my vassal Buryatia so I'll be taking them now, not sure if I'll annex or vassalize.

So this is how I look in 1467
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