EPTNBA Playoffs (2010-2011) - Page 65
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 10 2011 14:58 TwoToneTerran wrote: But Durant still had the most points per play of anyone in the game? Battier may be the best perimeter defender in the league, but Durant was still the most productive player on the court and he should've gotten more than 20 shots in a 57 minute game for him. He. Cant. Get. The. Ball. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
For any of those 13 extra shots? I think you're over exaggerating. Westbrook spent most of the game without even giving the slightest thought to passing until he was flying out of bounds after a failed drive attempt. It's almost like a catch-22, Durant isn't going to get the ball because Westbrook always drives, so they never setup plays to get Durant the ball. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
The only reason he "can't" get the ball is Russell Westbrook's willful decision to take shots. EDIT: Although, Durant did have a shitty shooting night. Still, general principle. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:10 slyboogie wrote: Oh whatever, run him off a screen or get him in iso with the ball, I don't care if he brings the ball up the court. He SHOULD touch the ball more. No matter how good a defender is, he can't deny you the ball every possession. And frankly, Shane Battier isn't the "best defender in the world." The only reason he "can't" get the ball is Russell Westbrook's willful decision to take shots. EDIT: Although, Durant did have a shitty shooting night. Still, general principle. Which is my problem with their offense - let Durant bring the ball up and let Russel work off the ball at times. He is a natural SG after all. But Durant was getting gummed up by TA all night. He didn't really explode until that OT. More importantly than Durant not getting the ball is why no one else is either. 33 shots from Westbrook is too much. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
Short of everything, the play by Westbrook, Collison, Durant and Harden collectively pulled a win out of Memphis. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
@Holcan: It wasn't one scenario, I'm not saying Russell Westbrook can't or shouldn't shoot. I'm saying Russell Westbrook shoots too much. He's good but the problem is how good he views himself. One day, he'll realize that Durant's existence has contributed much more to his performance than his existence ever mattered to Durant. Let me put it this way, the Thunder will be in a game, soon, against a more worthy opponent - and they will have to reap what Russ Westbrook sows. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:15 Holcan wrote: No one ever said Shane Battier was the best defender in the world, but I'd like to see you get free from him with 3 seconds left on the clock for a more wide open shot than the two Westbrook had, ridiculous people were calling his shots bad, as if it was his decision the inbounder gave it to him. Short of everything, the play by Westbrook, Collison, Durant and Harden collectively pulled a win out of Memphis. I actually don't have too much of a problem with that one 3 second inbounds play, Battier pretty obviously forced the ball to be filtered to a mostly open Westbrook, my criticism was for the whole game. It's been a long time ailing for OKC and if they don't fix it they will be a perpetual disappointment. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:27 slyboogie wrote: @Ace: We are of one mind here. Glad we agree here. @Holcan: It wasn't one scenario, I'm not saying Russell Westbrook can't or shouldn't shoot. I'm saying Russell Westbrook shoots too much. He's good but the problem is how good he views himself. One day, he'll realize that Durant's existence has contributed much more to his performance than his existence ever mattered to Durant. Let me put it this way, the Thunder will be in a game, soon, against a more worthy opponent - and they will have to reap what Russ Westbrook sows. Just waiting for the day Durant blows up on court. It's coming... | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:31 Ace wrote: Just waiting for the day Durant blows up on court. It's coming... For those of you who play pickup ball, you KNOW Russell Westbrook. There's a guy like that in every gym and everyone hates playing with him. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
If Durant had a pass-first/pure shooter type PG (IMO Steph Curry would be really good alongside him) that would be perfect. That way the offense can run through Durant but you'd have someone to be able to light it up from outside. ~~ | ||
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Stoids
United States636 Posts
(IMO Steph Curry would be really good alongside him) My brother was at Davidson during the Steph years.... he praises the ground he walks on. It makes BYU Jimmer fans seem tame. | ||
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:50 Xeris wrote: Yea unfortunately, I don't think the Westbrook-Durant tandem is destined to be. Westbrook needs to be "the guy" on his team, similar to Rose. This is the exact reason LeBron probably wouldn't have worked well in Chicago. If Durant had a pass-first/pure shooter type PG (IMO Steph Curry would be really good alongside him) that would be perfect. That way the offense can run through Durant but you'd have someone to be able to light it up from outside. ~~ I agree that Westbrook wants to be "the guy," but I don't think Rose has to be. Obviously he is "the guy" for this Bulls team, but in other situations he has shown a willingness to defer to his teammates and play more of a supporting role (Team USA, the All-star game), something Westbrook doesn't seem to be able to choke down. Anyway I checked the score early in the 2nd quarter when it looked like Memphis would turn this one into a laugher and I didn't check the score again until after the 3rd OT finished :X fuck my life. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13430 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
Conley definitely has "I want to be the hero" syndrome, though at least he had a really clean look at that 3. I loved watching Lionel hollins's reaction as he tried to call time out and a's the shot went up and Conley fouled out. Sad and disappointed hehe | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:14 Ace wrote: Which is my problem with their offense - let Durant bring the ball up and let Russel work off the ball at times. He is a natural SG after all. But Durant was getting gummed up by TA all night. He didn't really explode until that OT. More importantly than Durant not getting the ball is why no one else is either. 33 shots from Westbrook is too much. Durant is too long to bring up the ball all the time, small guards can really harass him and poke the ball out. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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DaCheF
United States305 Posts
Cav Fans: Its not that Lebron left Cleveland its how he left. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On May 10 2011 17:46 ilikejokes wrote: I agree that Westbrook wants to be "the guy," but I don't think Rose has to be. Obviously he is "the guy" for this Bulls team, but in other situations he has shown a willingness to defer to his teammates and play more of a supporting role (Team USA, the All-star game), something Westbrook doesn't seem to be able to choke down. Anyway I checked the score early in the 2nd quarter when it looked like Memphis would turn this one into a laugher and I didn't check the score again until after the 3rd OT finished :X fuck my life. That's his persona. I don't think he'd be as successful as anything other than "the guy" on his team. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
Rose does it because he has to, (he doesnt have Deng (The only Bull Kobe wanted to play with*) and Boozer) Westbrook does it because he has a massive ego. Make up your damn minds, they are essentially the same player, either they both chuck up too many shots, or they both handle their offense the way its needs to be handled. Dont give me this Durant BS, you're strawmanning the argument. | ||
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