NBA Playoffs (2010-2011) - Page 55

On May 10 2011 02:32 Holcan wrote:
Noah is a great at rebounding, but he wasn't top 3 this season, not even in rebounding percentage. Reggie Evans, Kevin Love and Dwight all looking at this stat thinking you're fucked. Not to mention Blake Griffin will absolutely dominate rebounding stats along side Dwight and Love for the next 10~ years barring injury.


sorry, had to reply to someone a few pages back, ridiculous that you are such a fanboy you needless inflate your own players while downplaying the success of others.

On May 10 2011 02:47 Ace wrote:
As for the Durant and Westbrook thing there are a lot of misconceptions flying around. Westbrook isn't shooting them out of the game no matter what Chris Broussard says on ESPN First Take. The major issue is Tony Allen is gumming up OKC's offense.

Westbrook is trying to gt Durant the ball but TA is playing great ball denial and making KD work hard. With no consistent second option in the offense Westbrook has to take shots with 4 or less seconds on the clock. When he tries to force the ball into Durant in bad position it's either a Turnover or Durant catching the ball far from the hoop against a defender he has at least 5 inches on.

TAs strong defense then makes it hard for KD to get to the rim and he's left taking contested outside jumpers. The result? 5 for 24 or 2 for 11 nights.

So while Westbrook isn't playing well, it's not because he's chucking shots. It's because Memphis is strangling their #1 option and he's forced to create and takes all the blame.

On May 10 2011 02:47 Ace wrote:
So while Westbrook isn't playing well, it's not because he's chucking shots. It's because Memphis is strangling their #1 option and he's forced to create and takes all the blame.

On May 10 2011 03:45 cLutZ wrote:


Kevin Love shouldn't be in the discussion with Noah/Howard because his defense is not on the same level. He stays in too long looking for rebounds on the offensive end resulting in odd man situations and doesn't contest enough shots on the defensive end. The dirty secret of KLove's huge season is that he put an unhealthy focus on rebounding position above all else.

On May 10 2011 04:13 ilikejokes wrote:


So the Durant/Westbrook tandem's inefficient scoring in this series is because Memphis is playing great man defense, but Rose's is because he's not an elite player? Do you even think about your arguments?

Westbrook HAS been chucking up bad shots at the end of games. In game 1 he took 4 or 5 contested jumpers in a tight 4th quarter despite there being better shooters wide open at the 3 point line (and a wide open Kevin Durant at the top of the key or behind the 3 point line on multiple occasions).

Has Memphis been playing great defense? Yeah they've been playing great man defense on the perimeter, which is pretty much what you would expect from Tony Allen, Shane Battier etc. But Westbrook isn't without blame here by any means.

I'm done talking about Rose at this point, but I couldn't help myself when I saw that you were a Westchoke apologist.

On May 10 2011 04:45 Lori_ftw wrote:
Stats aren't relevant if you're on a horrible team, like Kevin Love is. At the end it's all about winning. Look at Dirk, he is so efficient. If the mavs are winning he doesn't care about scoring.

On May 10 2011 05:32 Ace wrote:
If Memphis wins tonight there is going to be a very big question mark on Sam Presti's plan of building a franchise.

I think Memphis is going to win this, albeit a close game. However, the absence of Rudy Gay isn't really a good thing. Rudy is their best player and with him I have no idea if OKC would have even been in any of the games the way they are playing. Problem with Rudy is that for some reason him + Mike Conley or him + OJ Mayo results in some ugly possessions at times.

Still somewhat scared of Mike Conley in a deciding game though. He has the tendency to play timid and make bad passes from what I saw in the Spurs series Game 4 iirc.

On May 10 2011 05:39 slyboogie wrote:


I've never really bought into Sam Presti's "genius." He drafted Kevin Durant after Kevin Pritchard took Greg Oden...I think everyone on this forum could have done that. Then he took Russell Westbrook with the 4th pick BUT let me ask you guys: could you see a Durant/Kevin Love team with James Harden and Serge Ibaka? There's an alternate universe there somewhere...

Anyways, my point is, the only impressive move that Presti really pulled off was Serge Ibaka late in the draft and taking Matt Harpring's contract for Eric Maynor of VCU (who may or may not be good.) As for Conley, he's turned out a lot better than I ever thought, though he's still not particularly strong - especially in this era of point guards. OJ Mayo is what he is, unfortunately. I can't believe that Shane Battier and Tony Allen with Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph are going to lead a team to the Western Conference Finals!

On May 10 2011 05:26 slyboogie wrote:
SPEAKING OF WESTBROOK AND NOT DERRICK ROSE.....

How do you guys see game 4 of OKC/Memphis going tonight? If the Grizzlies advance, this must be one of the most incredible runs in NBA history - an 8th seed one game from the western conference finals? Is the absence of Rudy Gay actually a positive? Is Zach Randolph the single most "mercurial" player in recent NBA history? Did anyone see Mike Conely becoming so...decently serviceable?

On May 10 2011 08:04 VENDIZ wrote:
Just thought I'd throw out the playoff stats from the biggest names so far in the postseason.

Dirk Nowitzki (25.3 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.5 apg, .574 FG, .938 FT)
Derrick Rose (31.8 ppg, 5 rpg, 9.3 apg, .434 FG, .808 FT)
LeBron James (24 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 2.7 apg, .467 FG, .542 FT)
Dwyane Wade (29.7 ppg, 5 rpg, 5 apg, .500 FG, .862 FT)
Kobe Bryant (23.3 ppg, 3 rpg, 2.5 apg, .458 FG, .800 FT)

First off; holy shit, Dirk is hitting everything.. second; LeBron's FT% is laughable..

.. gonna try to find Z-Bo's stats, he's been remarkable so far for Memphis

On May 09 2011 15:04 shmay wrote:
Kobe isn't Kobe anymore, but the Kobe-Pau era is not done. They are still definite title contenders. I think the obvious move is to trade Bynum for Howard. Bynum's value has risen tremendously and he has even looked dominant at times -- making the trade seem quasi-reasonable. Perhaps the Lakers could unload Fisher, Walton, Black or Barnes as well?

The main problem with Bynum is that he is incredibly injury prone and Gasol needs help down low, every game. The Lakers leaned on him way too much during the season and they paid for it in the playoffs.

One thing that always puzzled me during the season was the complete lack of play time for Derek Caracter. Though a rookie, he has a Perkins-like edge, good basketball IQ, and could have provided some much needed help down low while Bynum was hurt. Certainly beats Barnes or Blake. Artest is also basically done -- imagine if they had kept Ariza (who torched them in the first round)? The Lakers have built up way too much cruft (Artest, Blake, Barnes, Walton, and Fisher). Dunno what they can do about that. Will be interesting to see where they go from here.

On May 10 2011 05:32 Ace wrote:
If Memphis wins tonight there is going to be a very big question mark on Sam Presti's plan of building a franchise.

I think Memphis is going to win this, albeit a close game. However, the absence of Rudy Gay isn't really a good thing. Rudy is their best player and with him I have no idea if OKC would have even been in any of the games the way they are playing. Problem with Rudy is that for some reason him + Mike Conley or him + OJ Mayo results in some ugly possessions at times.

Still somewhat scared of Mike Conley in a deciding game though. He has the tendency to play timid and make bad passes from what I saw in the Spurs series Game 4 iirc.