fuck it i was rooting for the celtics but i had my hands in the air when amare made that shot >.< D'antoni running the most enjoyable system in the NBA and has been for years,wish Nash was at NY right now :/

bellweather

United States404 Posts

December 16 2010 02:51 GMT

#924

OMFG my Knicks... so sad right now.

Holcan

Canada2593 Posts

December 16 2010 02:51 GMT

#925

ESPN definitely choose the right game, holy shit that was amazing, and JVG back at the garden to boot? yes please !

instantnoodles

United States190 Posts

December 16 2010 02:53 GMT

#926

yeah that knicks celtics game was one of the craziest ones ive seen in a long time

horseoverking

United States19 Posts

December 16 2010 03:09 GMT

#927

On December 16 2010 11:40 clementdudu wrote:
well the most amazing thing is that everyone thought it wa going to be a blowout,and knicks would finally fall from the pedestal everybody put them on.
Seems theyre still up there.

did everyone really think it would be a blowout with celtics having to start Erden? It looked like celtics were going to get killed the way knicks played. They pulled that win out of their ass

amazing finish by pierce, and he did it over amare too

KOFgokuon

United States14912 Posts

December 16 2010 03:09 GMT

#928

crazy game

Ace

United States16096 Posts

December 16 2010 03:25 GMT

#929

On December 16 2010 11:21 Holcan wrote:
I put Perkins as the Celtics center, as he is, and he is only 26 years old. I dont know why you would put Shaq in there.

If thats the case, Fisher will soon retire, and Bryant will most likely retire after his current contract. Ron is only 2 years younger than Paul Pierce, but said that he wants to pursue other options, such as the NFL, he is the most likely to retire, aside from Fisher, of all the starters for the Lakers. Pau is 30, so he does have some years left

But i mean, lets be realistic, no one is going to retire, barring injuries.

Ray Allen is not going to stop, he is the best in the NBA for taking care of his body, and a shooter, he can last until 40, he just got 10 million a year, its not like he settled for the veterans minimum.
Paul Pierce isnt going to retire, why would you say this? You are aware he is only a year younger than Kobe, right?
Where did you read KG would retire, i doubt he will give up 20 million dollars because of "mileage"
Shaq publicly stated that if a CBA happens he would gladly play in Europe, if not he would finish out his 2 year contract with Boston, so i wouldnt be to enthusiastic about him leaving either.

You're putting a lot of speculation into saying the Celtics will retire when nothing has pointed that way, including the 45 million that are going towards the big three next year, barring none retire.

Once again, they are just as old as the Lakers, so stop saying that the Celtics are finished after this year, ive heard it since 2008 and its been proven anything but true.

My bad, Perkins been gone for so long I completely forgot about him :/

I factored in Fisher's age. That's still only 1 of their starters out of 5 at the end of their rope.

Ron is only 2 years younger than Pierce but he hasn't had to play as much as PP. That's the mileage.

As for Ray Allen I fully believe he can also. That still doesn't change the fact that he isn't the old monster Ray Allen. He won't be getting significantly better.

Pierce is retiring at the end of this contract from what I read. But ok let's say he does stay - the level Pierce is playing at now he isn't getting better either.

KG is retiring. I read that EVERYWHERE. I've heard it from people with pretty good contacts inside the NBA. I thought it was general knowledge. Note I am not talking about retiring before his contract ends. This is a once his contract ends he is gone retiring in 2 years. NOT next year.

The Celtics have more mileage on 3 of their players than all of the Lakers starters except Kobe and Fisher. That is the major point you just keep missing. Secondly with Gasol only being 30 and still in his prime that's a pretty big deal. None of the big 3 are in their primes and all of them have a ton of playoff games on those bodies. Pau, Artest, and even the overrated Bynum do not. That is a monster difference on whether a team can get better or worse in the next few years.

horseoverking

United States19 Posts

December 16 2010 03:34 GMT

#930

celtics will be relevant for another 2-3 years, they can certainly squeeze out 2 championships out of this. Boston fans should be satisfied no matter what follows

blizzind

United States642 Posts

December 16 2010 04:10 GMT

#931

holy crap the celtics knicks game was pretty good but the celtics giving up 116 surprises me the most. where did the defense go this game?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

December 16 2010 04:11 GMT

#932

Rondo was hobbled and couldn't keep up with Raymond Felton. The Knicks also killed them with that small lineup. Position mismatches everywhere.

Holcan

Canada2593 Posts

December 16 2010 04:26 GMT

#933

Well obviously they are all going to retire at some point, no one lives forever :D. but saying they will digress by next year is a joke, its just as much of a joke as saying the lakers will digress next year, we both know neither of this is true.
Did you forgot that the most important to have young legs is something that Boston has, and the Lakers do not? Rajon Rondo makes the job easier for the "mileage" factor to be non-existent, like i said if you're going to call the Celtics too old, you have to call the Lakers to old, and the meaningless semantics have nothing to argue against, its purely speculative opinion on your part that Boston will begin to digress, although that gets said every year, and this year they are playing the best ball, with the best rotation they have had since they won the championship. They arent throwing the cards in yet, they still have the best match ups in all of the NBA, 1-5, and will continue to next year as well.

igotmyown

United States4291 Posts

December 16 2010 04:42 GMT

#934

Remember KG had to have something re-stapled inside his knee 2 years ago, he's at the age where there's a huge drop off, and he's more of an explosive athlete.

Paul Pierce doesn't finish or elevate the way he used to. Used to be, give the ball to pierce, automatic foul or and one.

Ray Allen would seem the least affected, but he has more cold streaks than he used to.

In spite of Perkins, right now the Celtics are pretty lucky healthwise.

The finals are 6 months away, that's half a year of wear and tear and injuries and aging.

Holcan

Canada2593 Posts

December 16 2010 04:52 GMT

#935

Is this the best that you can come up with? That the Boston celtics are likely to get injured, and thus will not be a good team next year? That goes for every single team in the league, they all have a chance to get injured and fail as a team, atlanta anyone? Boston will definitely be relevant next year, more so than the Knicks. edit: barring Chris Paul and Melo dont end up there xD

Ace

United States16096 Posts

December 16 2010 05:01 GMT

#936

I don't think either of us are saying Boston is going to just end up being terrible and falling off a cliff. But to expect them to be at this level when the competition in the East is getting far better AND three of their top players are going to be playing heavy minutes with bodies with tons of miles on them is a test of faith.

crazeman

664 Posts

December 16 2010 05:03 GMT

#937

every time the lakers are mentioned it reminds me of how gasol was pretty much gift wrapped to the lakers. Heres what the grizzlies got in the trade: Kwame Brown (lol), Javaris Crittenton (gun boy), Aaron McKie (retired), the rights to Marc Gasol (decent), Darell Arthur (1st round in 2008), and Greivis Vasquez (1st round in 2010). Asides from Marc Gasol, every player is pretty much garbage. At least when the wolves traded garnett away, they got Al jefferson a few decent prospects and a few high draft 1st round picks.

Also reminds me... I remembered that last year, D'antoni claimed that Jordon Hill reminds him of a young amare stoudmire...

horseoverking

United States19 Posts

December 16 2010 05:05 GMT

#938

KGs play was affected by his injury throughout the last year but he shows no signs of it now. He is the same KG we used to know, putting up big numbers every game. Paul is a veteran player and his experience alone is often enough to win games. Ray won't be done for another 5 years

this team has at least 2 more years to go before star contracts run out

RowdierBob

Australia13430 Posts

December 16 2010 05:08 GMT

#939

Anyone think Manu walked on that final shot or am I a bitter Bucks fan? So close to the Mavs/Spurs double.

Holcan

Canada2593 Posts

December 16 2010 05:13 GMT

#940

I think its perfectly reasonable to expect that heightened competition will help them as a team rather than hinder them. As far as the minutes goes, im sure Doc can handle that situation better than all of us so lets just sit back and watch, instead of needlessly applying pessimistic views, to a clearly optimistic scenario.

http://blogs.forbes.com/mikeozanian/2010/12/15/why-michael-ilitch-did-not-buy-the-detroit-pistons/

My Pistons are doomed, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Why would you lie to Ilitch, he'd probably wouldve bought the team without the inflated statistics if you'd shown him past years ACTUAL revenues, god how can a team with some of the highest attendance rates fuck up so hard. Just be honest, and say "look we are in the bottom third of the league in attendance right now, but we have the fan base potential to become the highest selling team in the league."