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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
December 18 2010 01:02 GMT
#961
The Knicks are actually really fun to watch. They play so quick.

Spike is loving it!
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
December 18 2010 01:04 GMT
#962
srsly the 76ers need to stop winning this is annoying
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 18 2010 02:09 GMT
#963
On December 18 2010 10:04 KOFgokuon wrote:
srsly the 76ers need to stop winning this is annoying


done
Get it by your hands...
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 18 2010 14:07 GMT
#964


McGrady getting Griffined. That ref looks excited watching. And a sidenote, clippers won.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 18 2010 20:25 GMT
#965
I don't understand what the Phoenix/Orlando trade accomplishes for Phoenix, are they effectively conceding this season in order to rebuild? Sucks for Nash who will have to go elsewhere to get another shot at the title.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 18 2010 20:35 GMT
#966
On December 19 2010 05:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I don't understand what the Phoenix/Orlando trade accomplishes for Phoenix, are they effectively conceding this season in order to rebuild? Sucks for Nash who will have to go elsewhere to get another shot at the title.


I would say they picked up a quality Center in Gortat, and flexibility in the next season, but losing J-Rich sucks for them. Maybe they think Childress will return to his pre-Greek levels and develop along those lines? This season I don't exactly count them out but Carter is #awful.
Get it by your hands...
Bull-Demon
Profile Joined January 2003
United States582 Posts
December 18 2010 21:47 GMT
#967
On December 19 2010 05:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I don't understand what the Phoenix/Orlando trade accomplishes for Phoenix, are they effectively conceding this season in order to rebuild? Sucks for Nash who will have to go elsewhere to get another shot at the title.



Seems like a concession to me. I didn't think Phoenix was going to be relevant anyway and this trade reaffirms that.
~_~
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
December 18 2010 22:14 GMT
#968
On December 19 2010 05:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I don't understand what the Phoenix/Orlando trade accomplishes for Phoenix, are they effectively conceding this season in order to rebuild? Sucks for Nash who will have to go elsewhere to get another shot at the title.


pretty interesting trade for orlando. I like the carter+gortat+pietrus for turky+richardson+clark trade and how they got rid of Carter, who clearly wasn't working out in Orlando but I'm not sure if I like the Arenas for Lewis trade. They're both ridiculously overpaid (Lewis has the 2nd highest salary besides for kobe at $20 mil a year... and arenas isn't too far from that) but I rather have Lewis. At least he's more predictable than Arenas and has flexibility to play PF/SF. Arenas seems a little redundant at this point at SG (since they got richardson/turky) and backup pg (turky can handle the ball fine when nelson is on the bench).
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
December 18 2010 22:14 GMT
#969
i think they conceded the chance at a title by adding stipulations to Amares contract, i dont think its as terrible as you think, steve nash has some one with decent hands he can pass to now.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 18 2010 22:23 GMT
#970
One of THE worst 3-team trades I've ever seen. All 3 of those teams got even worse after the deal. Oh well I guess all 3 want to hit rebuilding mode, which is even worse for the Magic.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 22:33:17
December 18 2010 22:28 GMT
#971
Gilbert, J-Rich, Turkoglu, Bass, Howard doesnt seem like a bad line up. And it was two trades, not a three team trade, orlando making moves ~
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
December 18 2010 22:44 GMT
#972
nba owners are such idiots. why fire steve kerr, who nearly brought you to the finals, and hire the idiot who made this mess?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 22:49:23
December 18 2010 22:48 GMT
#973
The only one of those 3 that help Orlando is J-Rich. Turk, a shell of a his former self that still wasn't good enough to match up vs Boston and you lose Carter, Lewis, Pietrus and Gortat.

So you trade in some decent defenders and 2 strong 1 on 1 defenders and bench players that killed opposing teams for...more scoring.

So Orlando now has no bench, or Arenas/Nelson if you want to call it that.

They match up even worse now vs Boston which had their number anyway, and instead of being a problem at the forward position they are now conventional. So the chances of them beating Chicago just dropped. A lot.

Orlando's big reason for winning was their defense. Loading up on more offense and a crusty Hedo isn't going to get them much better than a 4-seed in the East. What a terrible move.

On December 19 2010 07:44 shmay wrote:
nba owners are such idiots. why fire steve kerr, who nearly brought you to the finals, and hire the idiot who made this mess?


Welcome to Sarver land. 2 years ago when Kerr was begging to make a big trade to push Phoenix over the top the owner tied his hands. He quit seeing the impending disaster.

Poor Steve Nash.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 22:50:00
December 18 2010 22:48 GMT
#974
On December 18 2010 23:07 igotmyown wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCxnASOllUQ

McGrady getting Griffined. That ref looks excited watching. And a sidenote, clippers won.


Blake Griffin is sooo good. He'll definitely be a perennial all star. Also, that ref was super hyped when he made that.
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 18 2010 23:03 GMT
#975
Jesus if I was an Orlando fan I'd be highly upset. Otis Smith...wow. I seriously hope they have another deal in place soon because this is terrible news for Orlando.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 18 2010 23:06 GMT
#976
orlando only got 1 good thing out of this trade and that was arenas. but even that doesnt make sense because carter's run and gun playstyle is very similar to arenas, so they're not really gaining anything. then they are losing their star 3 pt shooter (admittedly lewis has been on a downturn recently), and their stellar bench is all but gone.

actually, its starting to look like most teams want to dump players and balance salaries in preparation for the lockout, which seems more inevitable by the day. even at home, rumors are that raptors will buy out peja stojakovic.
starleague forever
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
December 18 2010 23:10 GMT
#977
On December 19 2010 07:48 Ace wrote:
The only one of those 3 that help Orlando is J-Rich. Turk, a shell of a his former self that still wasn't good enough to match up vs Boston and you lose Carter, Lewis, Pietrus and Gortat.

So you trade in some decent defenders and 2 strong 1 on 1 defenders and bench players that killed opposing teams for...more scoring.

So Orlando now has no bench, or Arenas/Nelson if you want to call it that.

They match up even worse now vs Boston which had their number anyway, and instead of being a problem at the forward position they are now conventional. So the chances of them beating Chicago just dropped. A lot.

Orlando's big reason for winning was their defense. Loading up on more offense and a crusty Hedo isn't going to get them much better than a 4-seed in the East. What a terrible move.

Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 07:44 shmay wrote:
nba owners are such idiots. why fire steve kerr, who nearly brought you to the finals, and hire the idiot who made this mess?


Welcome to Sarver land. 2 years ago when Kerr was begging to make a big trade to push Phoenix over the top the owner tied his hands. He quit seeing the impending disaster.

Poor Steve Nash.


Remember that year when pheonix had joe johnson and they let him walked because they didn't want to pay him? nash, amare and joe johnson would of been a pretty sick combo.

And I think turky still has a little bit of game left in him. Turk really excelled in the pick and roll role in orlando with dwight howard a few years ago and in pheonix he wasn't really able to do that since nash is so good and dominates the ball most of the time.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 18 2010 23:19 GMT
#978
On December 19 2010 08:10 crazeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 07:48 Ace wrote:
The only one of those 3 that help Orlando is J-Rich. Turk, a shell of a his former self that still wasn't good enough to match up vs Boston and you lose Carter, Lewis, Pietrus and Gortat.

So you trade in some decent defenders and 2 strong 1 on 1 defenders and bench players that killed opposing teams for...more scoring.

So Orlando now has no bench, or Arenas/Nelson if you want to call it that.

They match up even worse now vs Boston which had their number anyway, and instead of being a problem at the forward position they are now conventional. So the chances of them beating Chicago just dropped. A lot.

Orlando's big reason for winning was their defense. Loading up on more offense and a crusty Hedo isn't going to get them much better than a 4-seed in the East. What a terrible move.

On December 19 2010 07:44 shmay wrote:
nba owners are such idiots. why fire steve kerr, who nearly brought you to the finals, and hire the idiot who made this mess?


Welcome to Sarver land. 2 years ago when Kerr was begging to make a big trade to push Phoenix over the top the owner tied his hands. He quit seeing the impending disaster.

Poor Steve Nash.


Remember that year when pheonix had joe johnson and they let him walked because they didn't want to pay him? nash, amare and joe johnson would of been a pretty sick combo.

And I think turky still has a little bit of game left in him. Turk really excelled in the pick and roll role in orlando with dwight howard a few years ago and in pheonix he wasn't really able to do that since nash is so good and dominates the ball most of the time.


im pretty sure you havent seen much of turk's play for the past year and such. he is not the same player that was part of that magic finals team. he's at best a bench player now and continually shows less and less drive for the game.
starleague forever
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 18 2010 23:23 GMT
#979
Carter isn't a big loss, Lewis isn't that big of a loss either at least in terms of production (how many times has he just disappeared at critical points), Gortat is a big loss but Anderson hasn't exactly been a chump. I would say Orlando made out alright on this, you add Arenas and J-Rich to make up for something you weren't very good at and lose a little on the things you were great at. The biggest thing is Hedo's and Arenas' contracts which can be problematic if they don't pan out.
Get it by your hands...
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 18 2010 23:25 GMT
#980
On December 19 2010 08:19 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2010 08:10 crazeman wrote:
On December 19 2010 07:48 Ace wrote:
The only one of those 3 that help Orlando is J-Rich. Turk, a shell of a his former self that still wasn't good enough to match up vs Boston and you lose Carter, Lewis, Pietrus and Gortat.

So you trade in some decent defenders and 2 strong 1 on 1 defenders and bench players that killed opposing teams for...more scoring.

So Orlando now has no bench, or Arenas/Nelson if you want to call it that.

They match up even worse now vs Boston which had their number anyway, and instead of being a problem at the forward position they are now conventional. So the chances of them beating Chicago just dropped. A lot.

Orlando's big reason for winning was their defense. Loading up on more offense and a crusty Hedo isn't going to get them much better than a 4-seed in the East. What a terrible move.

On December 19 2010 07:44 shmay wrote:
nba owners are such idiots. why fire steve kerr, who nearly brought you to the finals, and hire the idiot who made this mess?


Welcome to Sarver land. 2 years ago when Kerr was begging to make a big trade to push Phoenix over the top the owner tied his hands. He quit seeing the impending disaster.

Poor Steve Nash.


Remember that year when pheonix had joe johnson and they let him walked because they didn't want to pay him? nash, amare and joe johnson would of been a pretty sick combo.

And I think turky still has a little bit of game left in him. Turk really excelled in the pick and roll role in orlando with dwight howard a few years ago and in pheonix he wasn't really able to do that since nash is so good and dominates the ball most of the time.


im pretty sure you havent seen much of turk's play for the past year and such. he is not the same player that was part of that magic finals team. he's at best a bench player now and continually shows less and less drive for the game.


Pretty much what I wanted to say.

Also the PnR with Lewis was actually what killed teams before, not Dwight. Hedo is terrible now and even back then Boston obliterated that match up. Even with J-Rich now Orlando I can't see Orlando beating any of the good defensive teams in the East. Ugh just terrible.

The worst part about this is the misguided Orlando fans claiming that they can play Hedo at the PF position or off the bench. It's like nobody saw when they tried it in Phoenix and he got absolutely MAULED playing the 4. He could barely get a rebound.

Then when they brought him off the bench - and Phoenix had a loaded bench one of the top, if not the top scoring bench in the league - he STILL struggled.

And now Orlando has no bench.

Why in the world would any fan be excited about seeing Hedo?

I'm not even going to get into Arenas. While not as bad as Hedo and actually an upgrade over Lewis he also struggled this year in Washington. The good thing about Arenas though is that he will bring some much needed individual defense to the back court.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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