Like I said, the phrasing matters, don't call it your deck.

The sideboard is tuned to your meta, we don't know what your meta is. If you knew how WRG ran, and your meta, you wouldn't be asking for a general questions (yes the questions and points you made were just general statements, X is good against Y, etc.) Instead you would ask how would you guys deal with X?

You're not though, you're just asking for what we would put into the board which is a completely pointless exercise.

dignity

Canada908 Posts

October 14 2011 17:22 GMT

#1662

Judicator pretty much nailed it. Notice how everyone asking for advice asks for help against specific issues/cards. Sideboarding is completely dependent on your environment.

Cel.erity

United States4890 Posts

October 14 2011 21:13 GMT

#1663

On October 15 2011 01:59 Judicator wrote:
Like I said, the phrasing matters, don't call it your deck.

The hell are you talking about? Everybody who runs a deck calls it their deck whether they made it or not. He did not imply any ownership over the original idea of the deck at all. If I run Flare at states, am I not allowed to call it my deck just because 71/75 of the list is copied? What pointless semanticism.

"Hey bro, can I see your states deck?"

"Oh, it's not my deck, I copied it from the internet! The fact that I own the cards and entered it in the tournament is irrelevant!"

DEN1ED

United States1087 Posts

October 14 2011 23:48 GMT

#1664

Ya, pretty much what cel said. Saying "my deck" has always been used to talk about whatever deck you are playing. It doesn't matter if you netdecked it or not.

Risen

United States7927 Posts

October 15 2011 00:15 GMT

#1665

I don't mind someone calling it their deck. It just came across as pretentious that when we talk about the kessig deck he jumps in and says, HEY! THATS NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR!

I know Orph didn't mean it like that, but maybe that's how judi took it. Regardless... my typical thoughts when I build a deck and the kid I'm facing at a FNM says, "wtf why would you play that!"

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dignity

Canada908 Posts

October 15 2011 02:00 GMT

#1666

On October 15 2011 09:15 Risen wrote:
I don't mind someone calling it their deck. It just came across as pretentious that when we talk about the kessig deck he jumps in and says, HEY! THATS NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR!

I know Orph didn't mean it like that, but maybe that's how judi took it. Regardless... my typical thoughts when I build a deck and the kid I'm facing at a FNM says, "wtf why would you play that!"

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That gif just sums up what I tell my friends when they ask why I build such janky decks.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

October 15 2011 02:15 GMT

#1667

Speaking of netdecking, I've been looking at the puresteel equipment decks that made it pretty far in SCG, and while I'm proud of them being mono-white, is mentor really all that good in the deck? Every time I play with it, I always have other cards in hand to play rather then pay the extra mana, and I'm always short on mana. I feel like puresteel paladin is enough card draw to get to a sword or something to put it on, that playing mentor, then another critter + 1 mana is a waste of time. I tried playing it like a subsitute for one of the many times puresteel dies to removal, but it still seems clunky and I never have spare mana anyway to burn for the draw. Nearly every time, I'd rather throw a sword down then mentor, then I'd rather equip it then play a critter then draw a card. Mentor just doesn't seem threatening with puresteel. But it placed in SCG and I did not. I'm not a huge trinket mage dude, but it seems better then mentor.

Also Inkmoth is the best card in standard, prove me wrong

Edit: http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=929833
Just linking the deck. I mean other then the early mentor play, I love the deck, and even mentor later on, when kemba is making cats, or you set of the origin, and then drawing from it is sweet stuff.

Kitkatzy

United States213 Posts

October 15 2011 03:11 GMT

#1668

On October 15 2011 11:15 bumatlarge wrote:
Also Inkmoth is the best card in standard, prove me wrong

Maybe you are new to magic or something but historically the man lands have always been the best cards in standard...

DEN1ED

United States1087 Posts

October 15 2011 03:36 GMT

#1669

On October 15 2011 12:11 Couvre wrote:

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Maybe you are new to magic or something but historically the man lands have always been the best cards in standard...

What? Faerie conclave/treetop village were not better than bitterblossom. Blinkmoth was not better than ravager. Colonade not better than JTMS/stoneforge. Manlands are always very good but certainly not best cards in standard.

dignity

Canada908 Posts

October 15 2011 04:15 GMT

#1670

That was because the cards you pointed out are outright broken.

DEN1ED

United States1087 Posts

October 15 2011 04:46 GMT

#1671

That doesn't make me wrong. He said manlands have historically been best cards in standard. Well historically there have been broken cards in standard that are much better. Those were just the first few cards that came to mind. I would say tooth and nail was better than blinkmoth and and squadron hawks also better than colonade. Those cards are key to an entire archetype while manlands are just really good supporting cards.

dignity

Canada908 Posts

October 15 2011 06:40 GMT

#1672

According to Gatherer community ratings, Hero of bladehold is the best card in Standard currently. Second is memnite.

Another thing that I actually find interesting is that there are no blue cards in the top 25 of gatherer. The highest rated blue card is turn to frog -_-

deth2munkies

United States4051 Posts

October 15 2011 07:05 GMT

#1673

On October 15 2011 15:40 dignity wrote:
According to Gatherer community ratings, Hero of bladehold is the best card in Standard currently. Second is memnite.

Another thing that I actually find interesting is that there are no blue cards in the top 25 of gatherer. The highest rated blue card is turn to frog -_-

Which just shows how stupid people who rate shit on Gatherer are.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

October 15 2011 09:18 GMT

#1674

I don't know bro, memnite is the most mana efficient creature ever printed. Dryad arbor doesn't count, that bitch is whack.

Cel.erity

United States4890 Posts

October 15 2011 15:19 GMT

#1675

Turn to Frog is obviously the best blue card in Standard right now. Think about the synergy with Snapcaster Mage!

MCMcEmcee

United States1609 Posts

October 15 2011 17:00 GMT

#1676

On October 16 2011 00:19 Cel.erity wrote:
Turn to Frog is obviously the best blue card in Standard right now. Think about the synergy with Snapcaster Mage!

it kills all the phantasmal images, shuts down titans for a turn, AND you can cast it in response to a Tree of Redemption activation to blow them out!

dignity

Canada908 Posts

October 15 2011 17:11 GMT

#1677

You can trade snappy for their titan with turn to frog in your graveyard. Seems pretty good...

Instant(kinda) removal in monoblue?

And memnites are broken. Its power/cmc is incalculable.

Cel.erity

United States4890 Posts

October 15 2011 17:20 GMT

#1678

On October 16 2011 02:00 MCMcEmcee wrote:

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it kills all the phantasmal images, shuts down titans for a turn, AND you can cast it in response to a Tree of Redemption activation to blow them out!

Oh shit, I didn't even think about this. If I ever play RUG in standard I am going to side in 1 mise Turn to Frog against any deck with Trees now, just so I can make that play.

Reminds me of my draft last night where life totals were 2 to 3 and opponent had Manabarbs in play, but I tapped 2 and killed him with Incinerate anyway.

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

October 16 2011 02:32 GMT

#1679

Just got back from states, had two matches to get into t8, lost 1-0 due to solar flare mirrors.

I played around and beat Mono Reds, RUGs, and Kessigs all day, then lose to two shitty flare players. Sitting next to Christian Valenti most of the day was kind of cool. Definitely figured out where my sideboard should be now.

Orpheos

United States1663 Posts

October 16 2011 03:53 GMT

#1680

lost in my win-and-in round after going starting 5-1. pretty much only had to think when going up against mirrors(which is the most miserable thing to play). record against mirrors was 1-2 and against the rest was all wins.

also -3ing a garruk to death to draw 6 cards only to slam another garruk was lolz worthy.

my sideboard "tech" ended up being a spellskite and a batterskull.