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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
October 16 2011 04:09 GMT
#1681
How did the Batterskull work in Wolfrun(I'm guessing you were playing something like that?) Were you pleased? Did it even see much play?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 16 2011 05:12 GMT
#1682
It works because its reuseable life gain. Wolf ramp will have extra mana and pumping a lifelinked thing just starts swinging the game in your favor.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 05:19:23
October 16 2011 05:17 GMT
#1683
Thanks, I know why they might play it; I was just asking how well it worked. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

EDIT: Oops, that wasn't meant to be snarky. It just reads that way
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 16 2011 05:18 GMT
#1684
Oh that was my bad, I misread what you said.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 16 2011 07:14 GMT
#1685
Token Town did moderately ok, Went 2-2 drop because we were hungry and started an hour late. Expected 140, got 202. Well that's cool. I beat Wolfrun all day, and could have won my other 2 matches had I not kept 1 landers out of greed.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
October 16 2011 14:20 GMT
#1686
the batterskull is more for tempered steel and various hero of bladehold decks. luckily i didnt play any the entire day. but my friend who also went x-2(got his second loss right before the win and in) played against ramp and he said the batterskull was the best card in the deck after sideboarding. my matchups were

RDW
Mirror
Tezz brew
Mirror
UW blade
RUG(kiblers version? i didnt see much of his deck tbh)
Mirror
UW tokens(i think it is PVs no tap out thing?)
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 20:18:42
October 18 2011 16:22 GMT
#1687
I decided to pony up on MTGO and actually pay for a kick ass standard deck.

RDW (wolf run) I am currently running.
Creatures (20)
4 Chandra's Phoenix
4 Stromkirk Noble
2 Grim Lavamancer
4 Stormblood Berserker
4 Reckless Waif
2 Hero of Oxid Ridge

Planeswalkers (3)
3 Garruk Relentless

Spells (14)
3 Gut Shot
4 Brimstone Volley
4 Incinerate
3 Shrine of Burning Rage

Land (23)
3 Kessig Wolf Run
2 Forest
4 Rootbound Crag
4 Copperline Gorge
10 Mountain

Sideboard (WIP):
3 Ancient Grudge
3 Arc Trail
3 Traitorous Blood
2 Dismember
2 Tree of Redemption
1 Beast Within
1 Vulshok Refuge

Sideboard: (try 2)
3 Ancient Grudge
3 Arc Trail
3 Traitorous Blood
1 Beast Within
3 Vulshok Refuge
2 Tree of Redemption

So far it is pretty fast, beat a birthing pod deck when I had 1 mountain the whole game. <3 dropping 2 Stromkirk Nobles.

Brood War forever!
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
October 18 2011 17:04 GMT
#1688
I would try to trade those garruks for koths asap before garruk goes down in price. Koth is definitley superior in RDW. People are just playing garruk because he is new, but Koth is MUCH better.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 18 2011 18:16 GMT
#1689
So I traded a bunch of stuff I wasn't using for a bunch of stuff I could use and some random crappy vampires for my EDH deck, and I finally have it built. Here it is:

+ Show Spoiler +

Commander : Olivia Voldaren
17x Mountain
20x Swamp
1x Rakdos Carnarium
1x Stensia Bloodhall
1x Buried Ruin
1x Rakdos Signet
1x Blade of the Bloodchief
1x Guul Draz Assasin
1x Ascendant Evincar
1x Exanguinate
1x Blasphemous Act
1x Stir the Grave
1x Red Sun's Zenith
1x Spawning Pit
1x Nihil Spellbomb
1x Kalastria Highborn
1x Curse of the Stalked Prey
1x Altar's Reap
1x Harvest Pyre
1x Vampiric Fury
1x Swiftfoot Boots
1x Vampire Interloper
1x Ancient Grudge
1x Victim of Night
1x Blood Seeker
1x Doom Blade
1x Screeching Bat
1x Rend Flesh
1x Strata Scythe
1x Screeching Bat // Stalking Vampire
1x Praetor's Grasp
1x Volt Charge
1x Grim Affliction
1x Pristine Talisman
1x Urge to Feed
1x Rakish Heir
1x Traitorous Blood
1x Manalith
1x Syphon Mind
1x Snuff Out
1x Bloodline Keeper // Lord of Lineage
1x Vampire Outcasts
1x Falkenrath Noble
1x Gravedigger
1x Sangromancer
1x Anowon, the Ruin Sage
1x Bloodlord of Vaasgoth
1x Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
1x Falkenrath Marauders
1x Bloodgift Demon
1x Sengir Vampire
1x Blood Tribute
1x Geth, Lord of the Vault
1x Butcher of Malakir
1x Into the Maw of Hell
1x Myojin of the Night's Reach
1x Caged Sun
1x Sorin's Vengeance
1x Altar of Shadows
1x Ichor Explosion
1x Life's Finale
1x Sheoldred, Whispering One
1x Chancellor of the Dross

A few cards I really wanted but were too expensive were Vampire Nocturnus ($20) and Captivating Vampire ($4.50). I'm trying not to buy singles atm.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 18 2011 18:39 GMT
#1690
Needs more Worldgorger Dragon + Animate Dead. Infinite Mana + Olivia = gg.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 18 2011 19:01 GMT
#1691
On October 19 2011 03:39 Cixah wrote:
Needs more Worldgorger Dragon + Animate Dead. Infinite Mana + Olivia = gg.

She can't ping players, but if they had a bunch of huge creatures, yeah
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 19:28:47
October 18 2011 19:18 GMT
#1692
On October 19 2011 02:04 DEN1ED wrote:
I would try to trade those garruks for koths asap before garruk goes down in price. Koth is definitley superior in RDW. People are just playing garruk because he is new, but Koth is MUCH better.


I might sideboard a Koth & Garruk maybe run 1 or 2 Koth(s) and 1 or 2 Garruk(s) in the main deck, but I like Garruk for his limited removal (2/2, 1/1,2/3, 1/3) creature, his odd overrun ultimate and a little bit of card advantage he gives as well. I will test it out a bit more tonight.
Brood War forever!
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 19:28:13
October 18 2011 19:26 GMT
#1693
On October 19 2011 04:18 Kralic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 02:04 DEN1ED wrote:
I would try to trade those garruks for koths asap before garruk goes down in price. Koth is definitley superior in RDW. People are just playing garruk because he is new, but Koth is MUCH better.


I might sideboard a Koth & Garruk maybe run 1 or 2 Koth(s) and 1 or 2 Garruk(s) in the main deck, but I like Garruk for his limited removal (2/2) creature, his odd overrun ultimate and a little bit of card advantage he gives as well. I will test it out a bit more tonight.


whenever i see people trying to get this kind of "value" out of a red deck i cringe. if you are playing RDW you need to realize the kind of balls to the wall attitude the deck needs. dont fuck around with gimmicky stuff.

your list should probably cut the green except for ancient grudges and run the full set of shrines(best card in the deck by far) abit more burn and some more one drops.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 19:54:04
October 18 2011 19:49 GMT
#1694
On October 19 2011 04:26 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 04:18 Kralic wrote:
On October 19 2011 02:04 DEN1ED wrote:
I would try to trade those garruks for koths asap before garruk goes down in price. Koth is definitley superior in RDW. People are just playing garruk because he is new, but Koth is MUCH better.


I might sideboard a Koth & Garruk maybe run 1 or 2 Koth(s) and 1 or 2 Garruk(s) in the main deck, but I like Garruk for his limited removal (2/2) creature, his odd overrun ultimate and a little bit of card advantage he gives as well. I will test it out a bit more tonight.


whenever i see people trying to get this kind of "value" out of a red deck i cringe. if you are playing RDW you need to realize the kind of balls to the wall attitude the deck needs. dont fuck around with gimmicky stuff.

your list should probably cut the green except for ancient grudges and run the full set of shrines(best card in the deck by far) abit more burn and some more one drops.


I might drop the reckless waif's and put in furnance scamps or arsonists as well. I am going to run it more with Garruk Relentless and Kessig Wolf Run though, I have heard good things and had some good uses out of these cards with this deck so far. As the meta shifts hopefully it can adapt to it.

Garruk is gimicky but it also enables the Traitorous Blood + Sacrifice combo to get rid of a hinderance creature.
Brood War forever!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 18 2011 19:57 GMT
#1695
I honestly haven't seen Garruk or any green in red decks that have done well. I did see some good white/red decks that run an abundance of 1-2 drops and both heroes.
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
October 18 2011 20:09 GMT
#1696
On October 19 2011 04:49 Kralic wrote:
Garruk is gimicky but it also enables the Traitorous Blood + Sacrifice combo to get rid of a hinderance creature.


see the thing with traitorous blood is that most of the time when you cast it, you straight up kill them. if not you probably have already lost the game.

the small amount of times having garruk turns this situation into a win isnt worth the loss in consistency and speed that not running him will give you.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
October 18 2011 20:13 GMT
#1697
On October 19 2011 05:09 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 04:49 Kralic wrote:
Garruk is gimicky but it also enables the Traitorous Blood + Sacrifice combo to get rid of a hinderance creature.


see the thing with traitorous blood is that most of the time when you cast it, you straight up kill them. if not you probably have already lost the game.

the small amount of times having garruk turns this situation into a win isnt worth the loss in consistency and speed that not running him will give you.


On October 19 2011 04:57 deth2munkies wrote:
I honestly haven't seen Garruk or any green in red decks that have done well. I did see some good white/red decks that run an abundance of 1-2 drops and both heroes.


Yeah, haha I will probably switch to Koth instead of Garruk.
Brood War forever!
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
October 18 2011 20:52 GMT
#1698
Anyone have any tech for the UB mirror? Right now I just go up to 29 land and 4 drownyard post-board and hope I get more drownyards and ghostquarters for their drownyards than they do.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 21:33:09
October 18 2011 21:03 GMT
#1699
On October 19 2011 05:52 DEN1ED wrote:
Anyone have any tech for the UB mirror? Right now I just go up to 29 land and 4 drownyard post-board and hope I get more drownyards and ghostquarters for their drownyards than they do.


We've been trying Jace, Memory Adept. I mean, obviously, you have to stick him - which is already a problem, but UB Mirror is already pretty tough, so it's just another counter war.

EDIT: I should say though, that Drownyard still seems like the best way to go. Just wanted to put an idea we've been trying.

EDIT2: Also, in all seriousness, Reassembling Skeleton, man.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
October 18 2011 21:48 GMT
#1700
Been thinking about Justin Vizaro's Pox-Blade deck he posted on tcg a couple days ago. Seems so fun and even looks like a viable strategy. what do you guys think of it?
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
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