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ore0z
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 04:38:36
December 20 2012 04:29 GMT
#5041
I was going to create a blog post, but i realized i couldn't
I thought it would be better to post here.

[Interview] Day9 on MTG

edit:
Q: If you could play Magic against anyone, who would it be and why?
A: I'd want to play my StarCraft idol Jaedong in a one-on-one. I'll never beat him in StarCraft, so hopefully we can spar in Magic and, afterwards, I can tell everyone how much awesomer I am. And, if I lose, I can just claim that I drew poorly. The important thing about my hypothetical fantasy is that I have excuses in advance.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 05:19:29
December 20 2012 05:18 GMT
#5042
On December 20 2012 12:17 Judicator wrote:
It's Lotus by far, not even close.


It's just a Ritual in later turns of Cube - if you aren't trying to combo off or play it in the first 3 turns, it's not going to be THAT sweet. That sweet being relative to the fact that it's....Black Lotus.

EDIT: and to be clear, believe it or not, I did not see that this was like pack 3. I thought it was pick 1 pack 1.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
December 20 2012 05:37 GMT
#5043
I believe he took Sol Ring, and on the wheel back it was Mox Emerald.

Personally, I'd probably do Sol Ring or Ancestral Recall, with Black Lotus third.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 05:42:57
December 20 2012 05:41 GMT
#5044
The upside is too much ignore. The same reason why Grim Monolith is high pick in non-powered Cubes. If you're going from turn 1 to turn 4 on turn 1, you are pretty much winning the game. Even 2 to 5 is stupidly good. None of the other cards comes close to that kind of "power" where you are effectively skipping not one or 2 turns but 3 full turns. Sol Ring *just* takes you from 1 to 2 on turn 1 and doesn't make colored mana. The same draw backs for Lotus are there for Sol Ring except even more pronounced.

Edit:

I have been drafting with a friend's powered cube a fair amount, so my opinion is just based on that.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 05:45:50
December 20 2012 05:42 GMT
#5045
With his deck? I totally agree. Pack 1 Pick 1? It's Lotus or TimeTwister cause I only draft combo in Cube.

EDIT: Responding to Kinie.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 05:56:26
December 20 2012 05:44 GMT
#5046
On December 20 2012 14:41 Judicator wrote:
The upside is too much ignore. The same reason why Grim Monolith is high pick in non-powered Cubes. If you're going from turn 1 to turn 4 on turn 1, you are pretty much winning the game. Even 2 to 5 is stupidly good. None of the other cards comes close to that kind of "power" where you are effectively skipping not one or 2 turns but 3 full turns. Sol Ring *just* takes you from 1 to 2 on turn 1 and doesn't make colored mana. The same draw backs for Lotus are there for Sol Ring except even more pronounced.


Your reasoning is basically exactly why it isn't that far apart. A turn 2 Baneslayer is mega bomb, but...is that all? You can already Turn 2 a Grislebrand in Cube...Cube is still a very creature-centric format, it's still Limited.

EDIT: I don't sound very clear in my post. Basically, what I'm saying is that Lotus is most magnificent when you have a plan for it. In Vintage, you can drop a Lodestone Golem off of it and progress your Workshop plan, Storm Decks can use it to go off earlier with Oath of Druids. Whatever. But in Cube? Most of the time, it's a super cheap Thran Dynamo - which is awesome, I can't stress how awesome it is - but it's not out of this world.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 20 2012 06:23 GMT
#5047
On December 20 2012 14:44 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 14:41 Judicator wrote:
The upside is too much ignore. The same reason why Grim Monolith is high pick in non-powered Cubes. If you're going from turn 1 to turn 4 on turn 1, you are pretty much winning the game. Even 2 to 5 is stupidly good. None of the other cards comes close to that kind of "power" where you are effectively skipping not one or 2 turns but 3 full turns. Sol Ring *just* takes you from 1 to 2 on turn 1 and doesn't make colored mana. The same draw backs for Lotus are there for Sol Ring except even more pronounced.


Your reasoning is basically exactly why it isn't that far apart. A turn 2 Baneslayer is mega bomb, but...is that all? You can already Turn 2 a Grislebrand in Cube...Cube is still a very creature-centric format, it's still Limited.

EDIT: I don't sound very clear in my post. Basically, what I'm saying is that Lotus is most magnificent when you have a plan for it. In Vintage, you can drop a Lodestone Golem off of it and progress your Workshop plan, Storm Decks can use it to go off earlier with Oath of Druids. Whatever. But in Cube? Most of the time, it's a super cheap Thran Dynamo - which is awesome, I can't stress how awesome it is - but it's not out of this world.


Screw that, T1 Lotus, Entomb Griselbrand/Animate Dead.

If only you could Lotus/Entomb Emrakul/Goryo's Vengeance w/ trigger on the stack in cube, that'd be hilaaarious.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
December 20 2012 06:29 GMT
#5048
On December 20 2012 15:23 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 14:44 slyboogie wrote:
On December 20 2012 14:41 Judicator wrote:
The upside is too much ignore. The same reason why Grim Monolith is high pick in non-powered Cubes. If you're going from turn 1 to turn 4 on turn 1, you are pretty much winning the game. Even 2 to 5 is stupidly good. None of the other cards comes close to that kind of "power" where you are effectively skipping not one or 2 turns but 3 full turns. Sol Ring *just* takes you from 1 to 2 on turn 1 and doesn't make colored mana. The same draw backs for Lotus are there for Sol Ring except even more pronounced.


Your reasoning is basically exactly why it isn't that far apart. A turn 2 Baneslayer is mega bomb, but...is that all? You can already Turn 2 a Grislebrand in Cube...Cube is still a very creature-centric format, it's still Limited.

EDIT: I don't sound very clear in my post. Basically, what I'm saying is that Lotus is most magnificent when you have a plan for it. In Vintage, you can drop a Lodestone Golem off of it and progress your Workshop plan, Storm Decks can use it to go off earlier with Oath of Druids. Whatever. But in Cube? Most of the time, it's a super cheap Thran Dynamo - which is awesome, I can't stress how awesome it is - but it's not out of this world.


Screw that, T1 Lotus, Entomb Griselbrand/Animate Dead.

If only you could Lotus/Entomb Emrakul/Goryo's Vengeance w/ trigger on the stack in cube, that'd be hilaaarious.


T1: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Entomb, Exhume. KRAKOW. +1 card more card to make it work but it doesn't need a card on the Vintage restricted list.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
KaiserReinhard
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States554 Posts
December 20 2012 06:29 GMT
#5049
Can anyone who plays the physical card game tell me some good MTG related Christmas gift ideas?
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 06:48:08
December 20 2012 06:43 GMT
#5050
On December 20 2012 15:29 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 15:23 deth2munkies wrote:
On December 20 2012 14:44 slyboogie wrote:
On December 20 2012 14:41 Judicator wrote:
The upside is too much ignore. The same reason why Grim Monolith is high pick in non-powered Cubes. If you're going from turn 1 to turn 4 on turn 1, you are pretty much winning the game. Even 2 to 5 is stupidly good. None of the other cards comes close to that kind of "power" where you are effectively skipping not one or 2 turns but 3 full turns. Sol Ring *just* takes you from 1 to 2 on turn 1 and doesn't make colored mana. The same draw backs for Lotus are there for Sol Ring except even more pronounced.


Your reasoning is basically exactly why it isn't that far apart. A turn 2 Baneslayer is mega bomb, but...is that all? You can already Turn 2 a Grislebrand in Cube...Cube is still a very creature-centric format, it's still Limited.

EDIT: I don't sound very clear in my post. Basically, what I'm saying is that Lotus is most magnificent when you have a plan for it. In Vintage, you can drop a Lodestone Golem off of it and progress your Workshop plan, Storm Decks can use it to go off earlier with Oath of Druids. Whatever. But in Cube? Most of the time, it's a super cheap Thran Dynamo - which is awesome, I can't stress how awesome it is - but it's not out of this world.


Screw that, T1 Lotus, Entomb Griselbrand/Animate Dead.

If only you could Lotus/Entomb Emrakul/Goryo's Vengeance w/ trigger on the stack in cube, that'd be hilaaarious.


T1: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Entomb, Exhume. KRAKOW. +1 card more card to make it work but it doesn't need a card on the Vintage restricted list.

I'm well aware, but 1 card less is pretty important, you can mull to 3 and still have T1 gbrand.

Also @above: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/recurring-nightmares-holiday-gift-ideas/
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
December 20 2012 09:16 GMT
#5051
On December 20 2012 15:29 KaiserReinhard wrote:
Can anyone who plays the physical card game tell me some good MTG related Christmas gift ideas?


are they competitive or casual?

Can you give us details about what kind of magic they like to play, or is this someone new to magic?
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
KaiserReinhard
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States554 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 17:48:46
December 20 2012 17:48 GMT
#5052
On December 20 2012 18:16 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 15:29 KaiserReinhard wrote:
Can anyone who plays the physical card game tell me some good MTG related Christmas gift ideas?


are they competitive or casual?

Can you give us details about what kind of magic they like to play, or is this someone new to magic?


Competitive. Plays in tournaments occasionally, not sure what kind of magic they play, I assume the standard kind.
twitch.tv/imkirok
el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 18:00:34
December 20 2012 17:58 GMT
#5053
On December 21 2012 02:48 KaiserReinhard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 18:16 BlueBird. wrote:
On December 20 2012 15:29 KaiserReinhard wrote:
Can anyone who plays the physical card game tell me some good MTG related Christmas gift ideas?


are they competitive or casual?

Can you give us details about what kind of magic they like to play, or is this someone new to magic?


Competitive. Plays in tournaments occasionally, not sure what kind of magic they play, I assume the standard kind.


You probably can't go wrong with sleeves. If they play a lot, they will always need new sleeves.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
December 21 2012 04:38 GMT
#5054
On December 21 2012 02:58 el_dawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 02:48 KaiserReinhard wrote:
On December 20 2012 18:16 BlueBird. wrote:
On December 20 2012 15:29 KaiserReinhard wrote:
Can anyone who plays the physical card game tell me some good MTG related Christmas gift ideas?


are they competitive or casual?

Can you give us details about what kind of magic they like to play, or is this someone new to magic?


Competitive. Plays in tournaments occasionally, not sure what kind of magic they play, I assume the standard kind.


You probably can't go wrong with sleeves. If they play a lot, they will always need new sleeves.


That's a really great idea, actually. Recommend you buy a couple hundred of the same color and type for them if you go this route and not just, like, 60, as they can break sometimes, or they might want a more readily-available sideboard when drafting.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
December 21 2012 15:32 GMT
#5055
On December 21 2012 13:38 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 02:58 el_dawg wrote:
On December 21 2012 02:48 KaiserReinhard wrote:
On December 20 2012 18:16 BlueBird. wrote:
On December 20 2012 15:29 KaiserReinhard wrote:
Can anyone who plays the physical card game tell me some good MTG related Christmas gift ideas?


are they competitive or casual?

Can you give us details about what kind of magic they like to play, or is this someone new to magic?


Competitive. Plays in tournaments occasionally, not sure what kind of magic they play, I assume the standard kind.


You probably can't go wrong with sleeves. If they play a lot, they will always need new sleeves.


That's a really great idea, actually. Recommend you buy a couple hundred of the same color and type for them if you go this route and not just, like, 60, as they can break sometimes, or they might want a more readily-available sideboard when drafting.

Had a friend go out of his way to buy me 60 sleeves of 5 different colors. I was like fuck me I'm only going to be able to use these once with my luck and handling of sleeves XD
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 21 2012 16:01 GMT
#5056
I only buy the 100 packs because I enjoy having a sleeved sideboard (so you need at least 75 and nobody sells 75 because they're evil).

Also, Dragon Shields if you can get them, a bit more expensive, but a lot more awesome :D
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 21 2012 16:36 GMT
#5057
KMCs are the best by far. The Dragon Shields are slightly too big (leading to creased corners) and they get dirty really fast (that grime build up).
Get it by your hands...
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 13:00:54
December 22 2012 12:39 GMT
#5058
The more I test with this Junk Swords deck for Modern, the more I feel it's just a worse Jund deck. Most of the other matchups I test against seem fine both pre and post-board, but with Jund I'm fighting for every win. I've only had a couple of games be a blowout in my favor, and on at least 6 occasions I was ahead on board, only to die to BBE cascading into something awesome, like Maelstrom Pulse, or Lilliana, or my favorite, Lingering Souls. I always feel like I'm 1-2 cards short in that matchup specifically of getting on equal footing or fighting on the same level as them.

I'm starting to toy around with the creature base more, and wondering if Lotus Cobra in place of BoP might be better, just so I can empty my hand out a bit sooner. Any suggestions for good Modern creatures in this deck is appreciated... Besides Goyf, because everyone and their mother knows how good Goyf is.

Here's the changes I've made after more testing: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/junk-swords/
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
December 22 2012 15:12 GMT
#5059
So somebody pulled a Gatecrash card from a RTR pack at a FNM.

It shows off the Simic mechanic.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
December 22 2012 21:54 GMT
#5060
On December 23 2012 00:12 last.resistance wrote:
So somebody pulled a Gatecrash card from a RTR pack at a FNM.

It shows off the Simic mechanic.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Lolz, Wizards be trollin'. Hiding next-set cards in the current set.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
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