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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 14 2016 22:29 GMT
#21681
On November 15 2016 06:33 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2016 05:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
here is the Q&A Panel from BlizzCon 2016.
+ Show Spoiler +


On November 13 2016 05:16 Manit0u wrote:
0 faith in Blizzard. WoW ruined this company. Everything after and including that is garbage.
Bring back Blizzard North please...

i'm very happy with D3.

off topic and congruent with the post i'm rebutting
+ Show Spoiler +
Blizzard's 1st PC game arrived in late '94 or early '95 in Europe. WoW was late 2004. so, Blizz good for 10 years and then "ruined" for the last 11+ years. ok, man.

generally, when a company makes a garbage game its the next game they make that pays the price in terms of sales totals.

somehow, after 11+ years of crap Overwatch manages to exceed 20 million paid players in 6 months with stupid high levels of engagement.

re ductio ad absurdum


More money =/= more better...

LoL has made Riot a lot of money, and I don't consider it to be a good game.
Batman vs Superman has made Warner Bros. a lot of money, and I don't consider it to be a good movie.

Sure, you can release crap that sells for 11 years. How does that make you a good company?

as a shareholder, blizzard making money is all i care about.

profit does not necessarily mean good games are being made, but the likelihood of a company selling bad games and continually making a profit for decades is illogical. objectively, the market loves blizzard's games (or at least more than the competitors). subjectively (you), the games may not be great, but blizzard has to market to the market, not you.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
November 14 2016 23:16 GMT
#21682
On November 15 2016 06:33 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2016 05:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
here is the Q&A Panel from BlizzCon 2016.
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9FG16JMo1k


On November 13 2016 05:16 Manit0u wrote:
0 faith in Blizzard. WoW ruined this company. Everything after and including that is garbage.
Bring back Blizzard North please...

i'm very happy with D3.

off topic and congruent with the post i'm rebutting
+ Show Spoiler +
Blizzard's 1st PC game arrived in late '94 or early '95 in Europe. WoW was late 2004. so, Blizz good for 10 years and then "ruined" for the last 11+ years. ok, man.

generally, when a company makes a garbage game its the next game they make that pays the price in terms of sales totals.

somehow, after 11+ years of crap Overwatch manages to exceed 20 million paid players in 6 months with stupid high levels of engagement.

re ductio ad absurdum


More money =/= more better...

LoL has made Riot a lot of money, and I don't consider it to be a good game.
Batman vs Superman has made Warner Bros. a lot of money, and I don't consider it to be a good movie.

Sure, you can release crap that sells for 11 years. How does that make you a good company?

Luckily you are here to tell all the millions of LoL players that they are playing a bad game.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
November 14 2016 23:49 GMT
#21683
Did I read that right? I have to pay for the D1 graphics? I like the nostalgic feel--but man fuck that.
Skol
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 14 2016 23:58 GMT
#21684
On November 15 2016 08:49 Emnjay808 wrote:
Did I read that right? I have to pay for the D1 graphics? I like the nostalgic feel--but man fuck that.

the d1 event is free.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 15 2016 00:02 GMT
#21685
And it is not worth it. It does not give you nostalgic feels, it gives you pure hate.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4025 Posts
November 16 2016 05:26 GMT
#21686
On November 15 2016 07:27 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2016 03:29 DickMcFanny wrote:
An hour? I thought they recreated the entire game in the D3 engine?



The dungeon is like + Show Spoiler +
15
levels deep. Its been a while since I've played D1, but I think I remember it being longer than that.

D1 only had one more than that iirc. The problem is our memory. Play any old game and it sucks now.

What I don't like about the Kripp video is that he basically says "oh well, it's basically x floors of monsters you beat up and then the boss, that's all there is". Welcome to Diablo, man. Because that's all there ever has been. This isn't some skill game, this is monster bashing, optimalizing progress against the dungeon computer. And I have the idea that as we grow up, we start seeing it that way, and it takes out the fun it used to be.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 16 2016 05:56 GMT
#21687
On November 16 2016 14:26 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2016 07:27 Terranasaur wrote:
On November 15 2016 03:29 DickMcFanny wrote:
An hour? I thought they recreated the entire game in the D3 engine?



The dungeon is like + Show Spoiler +
15
levels deep. Its been a while since I've played D1, but I think I remember it being longer than that.

D1 only had one more than that iirc. The problem is our memory. Play any old game and it sucks now.

What I don't like about the Kripp video is that he basically says "oh well, it's basically x floors of monsters you beat up and then the boss, that's all there is". Welcome to Diablo, man. Because that's all there ever has been. This isn't some skill game, this is monster bashing, optimalizing progress against the dungeon computer. And I have the idea that as we grow up, we start seeing it that way, and it takes out the fun it used to be.

I disagree. The issue he had was that it was the same levels and monsters (99%) as diablo 3 currently. He didn't care it was a dungeon with monsters. He thought they'd have more throwback to D1 considering it was listed as "diablo 1 inside of d3". It's barely d1 at all, very few monsters have a new skin, world environment is d3 and play is basically d3. That was his problem. Playing the d1 was essential the exact same as doing a current rift with restricted movement and pixelated graphics. It was not a 'diablo 1 experience' at all.

http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-16 06:12:58
November 16 2016 06:12 GMT
#21688
On November 16 2016 14:26 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2016 07:27 Terranasaur wrote:
On November 15 2016 03:29 DickMcFanny wrote:
An hour? I thought they recreated the entire game in the D3 engine?



The dungeon is like + Show Spoiler +
15
levels deep. Its been a while since I've played D1, but I think I remember it being longer than that.

D1 only had one more than that iirc. The problem is our memory. Play any old game and it sucks now.

What I don't like about the Kripp video is that he basically says "oh well, it's basically x floors of monsters you beat up and then the boss, that's all there is". Welcome to Diablo, man. Because that's all there ever has been. This isn't some skill game, this is monster bashing, optimalizing progress against the dungeon computer. And I have the idea that as we grow up, we start seeing it that way, and it takes out the fun it used to be.

It's less to do with "that's what it is" and more to do with "that's all it is...", I think. I had no real interest one way or the other but it is a pretty small amount of content and I can see why people are surprised. The only thing D1 about it is the filter pretty much
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 17 2016 17:29 GMT
#21689
finally got around to beating the D1 event on PTR. did it on T13 with my demon hunter. it was not nostalgic at all, and completely underwhelming. maybe i just dont remember D1, i dont know. however, it was basically just a long rift to me (like 16 levels or so) with ugly graphics. im not even sure i saw the butcher in my run (with multishot, you dont see much anyways), but i do recall lazarus and diablo.

anyways, if i had to pay for it, i would be upset. however, i didnt pay for it, so kudos to them for giving me free content even if it wasnt amazing.

oh, not sure if its intentional, but the event does seem to give a shit ton of experience. not sure if thats just PTR or what, but i seemed to be leveling up four times instead of once while in the event.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-20 19:30:36
November 20 2016 19:29 GMT
#21690
Never played a monk, how is Uliana ?

Seems fun, but its effective ?

My other option is Crusader Hammerin and WD Spirit of Arachyr because I've never tried that one
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
November 20 2016 20:52 GMT
#21691
On November 21 2016 04:29 Faruko wrote:
Never played a monk, how is Uliana ?

Seems fun, but its effective ?

My other option is Crusader Hammerin and WD Spirit of Arachyr because I've never tried that one

What do you consider "effective"? Uliana's can go a long way, though the playstyle changes quite a bit between Torment farming and high GR.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 20 2016 21:00 GMT
#21692
Uliana's is also an extreme sweetspot build. Either you one shot the mob and speed clear, or you push to really high GR levels and chain down giant mobs. Anything in-between feels awful.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-20 21:20:11
November 20 2016 21:20 GMT
#21693
Effective as in pushing high GR, 75+
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-21 03:23:05
November 21 2016 03:21 GMT
#21694
wrong thread
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
November 21 2016 05:11 GMT
#21695
On November 18 2016 02:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
finally got around to beating the D1 event on PTR. did it on T13 with my demon hunter. it was not nostalgic at all, and completely underwhelming. maybe i just dont remember D1, i dont know. however, it was basically just a long rift to me (like 16 levels or so) with ugly graphics. im not even sure i saw the butcher in my run (with multishot, you dont see much anyways), but i do recall lazarus and diablo.

anyways, if i had to pay for it, i would be upset. however, i didnt pay for it, so kudos to them for giving me free content even if it wasnt amazing.

oh, not sure if its intentional, but the event does seem to give a shit ton of experience. not sure if thats just PTR or what, but i seemed to be leveling up four times instead of once while in the event.


really the only way to play is from level one and jack up the difficulty, it is pretty fun then
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
November 21 2016 09:13 GMT
#21696
On November 15 2016 09:02 Clonester wrote:
And it is not worth it. It does not give you nostalgic feels, it gives you pure hate.

Why did it give you pure hate?
I played through it yesterday, and while I would be pissed if I paid for it, as a free event it was quite worth it! It was good to get the movement, graphics and sounds of D1.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 21 2016 09:26 GMT
#21697
many people dont like it because of D3 monsters, D3 maps and more of D3. Only graphic and sound is from D1. I don't know if this is true, I never played D1 and PTR.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22679 Posts
November 21 2016 11:42 GMT
#21698
Yeah I'm pretty sure people (rightfully) expected D1 classes, D1 monsters in the D1 map.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
November 21 2016 12:08 GMT
#21699
Did they really expect that they should implement D1 classes and monsters for a small anniversary event? Seems unreasonable to me.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18017 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-21 13:58:38
November 21 2016 13:46 GMT
#21700
On November 15 2016 06:33 Manit0u wrote:
Sure, you can release crap that sells for 11 years. How does that make you a good company?

long term financial success can only happen with a a quality product. you can sell something well with hype alone and it will sell well at the start and fizzle out fast. there are so many choices in the video game market place these days consumers will leave your product the nanosecond they are bored.

On November 15 2016 06:33 Manit0u wrote:
Batman vs Superman has made Warner Bros. a lot of money, and I don't consider it to be a good movie.
Sure, you can release crap that sells for 11 years. How does that make you a good company?

i don't like WoW. Does this make WoW a bad game? no, it means its not my kind of game. WoW's long term success is objective proof of its quality. I could run around on forums every where screaming about how WildStar's combat is a million times better than WoW's combat though.

your personal subjective judgements about a game are not objective proof the game is either good or bad. neither are mine. i don't like WoW and that don't mean a damn thing.

as long as a community out there actively plays the game it does not matter that many hate it. there are millions of "Blades of Steel" fans screaming that "NHL '94 Hockey" sucks balls. my response to those angry haters is.. "so what? we're having fun".

You know what is lowering my Diablo3 and SC2 playing time these days? Do you know what is eroding these 2 communities to the point these 2 games ARE ON THE VERGE OF EXTINCTION?!?!!?!? EXTINCTION I SAY ! ! !

What is this great game eroding the D3 and SC2 player base?
Overwatch.
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