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Vestige
Profile Joined November 2009
United States303 Posts
May 09 2013 16:07 GMT
#55721
hopefully never

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 09 2013 16:08 GMT
#55722
On May 10 2013 01:05 Merik_ wrote:
when is idra's next tournament/ qualifier ?

Challenger Division plays next week so whoever he fell down to face
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
May 09 2013 16:12 GMT
#55723
It's pretty sad! I had some friends over and i was like enjoy playing "pro evolution soccer" i'm gonna watch my man idra..

and he rage quits twice.. yeah kinda lame!

I'm sad and disapointed not because he lost, or because he might be playing bad but because he doesn't give a shit and he is quitter.. he allready happen so many times!

I'm going to keep cheering and supporting but his attitude really sucks.. and i kinda i'm getting tired of it
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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 09 2013 16:29 GMT
#55724
How many of these self-proclaimed former fans were actually real fans of Idra before these last events? I just find it hard to believe that a strong supporter of Idra, that's been along and cheered him through all of his previous antics, would suddenly jump ship because of this. Or the term fan doesn't mean as much as it used to.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 09 2013 16:37 GMT
#55725
I hope EG has some sort of plan or ideas on how to deal with Idra's with rough match ups in SC2. Watching Idra on ITG and his most recent post on the forums did not fill me with hope that he was going to do well in WCS.

But mental blocks are nothing new for any competitive, sports or otherwise. There is a reason that baseball teams go on amazing loosing streaks and then come back to win the World Series. Players have always been prone to getting lost in "their head" and really hurting their ability to play. This is why coaches exist, to assist players in their practice and mental state. Having someone objectively observing your practice and play is one the the most useful tools for players. I hope EG thinks about a coach for their players in NA to assist with player management. If they could find someone Idra respected and listened to, it would go a long way to getting him out of the rut he digs himself.
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
May 09 2013 16:39 GMT
#55726
On May 10 2013 01:29 nihlon wrote:
How many of these self-proclaimed former fans were actually real fans of Idra before these last events? I just find it hard to believe that a strong supporter of Idra, that's been along and cheered him through all of his previous antics, would suddenly jump ship because of this. Or the term fan doesn't mean as much as it used to.

I can, simply because last night really showcased his shortcomings like no other. First he plays a beautiful macro game getting a nice lead, then quits the game the second things start looking bad for him. Second game he's already on a huge tilt and does one of the worst executed all-ins I've seen in progaming. It almost feels like a culmination point of all the weird shit he has been through in the last few years.

Personally I'll keep tuning in to Idras games but I won't have high expectations any more.

nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 16:49:14
May 09 2013 16:45 GMT
#55727
On May 10 2013 01:39 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 01:29 nihlon wrote:
How many of these self-proclaimed former fans were actually real fans of Idra before these last events? I just find it hard to believe that a strong supporter of Idra, that's been along and cheered him through all of his previous antics, would suddenly jump ship because of this. Or the term fan doesn't mean as much as it used to.

I can, simply because last night really showcased his shortcomings like no other. First he plays a beautiful macro game getting a nice lead, then quits the game the second things start looking bad for him. Second game he's already on a huge tilt and does one of the worst executed all-ins I've seen in progaming. It almost feels like a culmination point of all the weird shit he has been through in the last few years.

Personally I'll keep tuning in to Idras games but I won't have high expectations any more.


It just feels like a mix of people only liking him when was winning (those kind of fans are often frown upon for obvious reasons) and people that just have slowly gotten tired of him meaning they probably weren't much of a fan in recent times anyway. I get that people that once were a fan isn't any longer, I just don't see how these events in themselves suddenly makes people go from a real fan to a non-fan if you know idra and still called yourself a fan. Maybe this was "the straw that broke the camels back" or whatever, but it's still a straw in the world of Idra.
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Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
May 09 2013 16:48 GMT
#55728
On May 10 2013 01:39 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 01:29 nihlon wrote:
How many of these self-proclaimed former fans were actually real fans of Idra before these last events? I just find it hard to believe that a strong supporter of Idra, that's been along and cheered him through all of his previous antics, would suddenly jump ship because of this. Or the term fan doesn't mean as much as it used to.

I can, simply because last night really showcased his shortcomings like no other. First he plays a beautiful macro game getting a nice lead, then quits the game the second things start looking bad for him. Second game he's already on a huge tilt and does one of the worst executed all-ins I've seen in progaming. It almost feels like a culmination point of all the weird shit he has been through in the last few years.

Personally I'll keep tuning in to Idras games but I won't have high expectations any more.



This exactly. I used to be a huge supporter of Idra, even when he was in a slump, for a while there you would still see him fight it out in tournament games. Who wants to watch a long macro game where he rage quits before any real engagement? Sorry but that isn't "entertainment," that's just a complete disregard for competition. I love watching players fight to the last breath.
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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 09 2013 16:54 GMT
#55729
On May 10 2013 01:29 nihlon wrote:
How many of these self-proclaimed former fans were actually real fans of Idra before these last events? I just find it hard to believe that a strong supporter of Idra, that's been along and cheered him through all of his previous antics, would suddenly jump ship because of this. Or the term fan doesn't mean as much as it used to.


I, like a lot of newer fans that came into SC2 as newbs, learned how to play the game by watching IdrA. He's pretty much the reason why I played Zerg.

To see him go from the being the best player in the world during the beta, to a bitter, uncompetitive basketcase is depressing. I hear not much has changed since Broodwar, but I wasn't around to witness him meltdown there.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 09 2013 17:02 GMT
#55730
On May 10 2013 01:29 nihlon wrote:
How many of these self-proclaimed former fans were actually real fans of Idra before these last events? I just find it hard to believe that a strong supporter of Idra, that's been along and cheered him through all of his previous antics, would suddenly jump ship because of this. Or the term fan doesn't mean as much as it used to.


Or let's put it another way ... His performance at WCS is the first time I actually agreed that IdrA is more famous for 'being famous' than actually being good.
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 17:51:13
May 09 2013 17:50 GMT
#55731

I can, simply because last night really showcased his shortcomings like no other. First he plays a beautiful macro game getting a nice lead, then quits the game the second things start looking bad for him. Second game he's already on a huge tilt and does one of the worst executed all-ins I've seen in progaming. It almost feels like a culmination point of all the weird shit he has been through in the last few years.

Personally I'll keep tuning in to Idras games but I won't have high expectations any more.

It just feels like a mix of people only liking him when was winning (those kind of fans are often frown upon for obvious reasons) and people that just have slowly gotten tired of him meaning they probably weren't much of a fan in recent times anyway. I get that people that once were a fan isn't any longer, I just don't see how these events in themselves suddenly makes people go from a real fan to a non-fan if you know idra and still called yourself a fan. Maybe this was "the straw that broke the camels back" or whatever, but it's still a straw in the world of Idra.


But the sad fact is, is that if Idra were a more mannered and humble guy he'd be liked regardless of how well he was doing. Teammates like Incontrol, Machine and Demuslim get waay more slack when they are losing but all that extra weight is added on by Greg himself. I'm a big fan Idra, I want to believe!
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PhoenixDark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States286 Posts
May 09 2013 18:06 GMT
#55732
On May 10 2013 01:12 shell wrote:
It's pretty sad! I had some friends over and i was like enjoy playing "pro evolution soccer" i'm gonna watch my man idra..

and he rage quits twice.. yeah kinda lame!

I'm sad and disapointed not because he lost, or because he might be playing bad but because he doesn't give a shit and he is quitter.. he allready happen so many times!

I'm going to keep cheering and supporting but his attitude really sucks.. and i kinda i'm getting tired of it


Why are you disappointed? He has been acting like this for a year if not more. It's clear he doesn't take the game seriously, and would rather blame his failures on race imbalances that haven't prevented other zergs from winning; the latter half of 2012 was dominated by Zergs winning tournaments with Infestors.

He doesn't care, so why should you?
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Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
May 09 2013 18:12 GMT
#55733
Why doesn't he just race swap if everything wrong with the game is balance? Learning a new race must be better than complaining about imbalance for three years.
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Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
May 09 2013 18:13 GMT
#55734
On May 10 2013 03:06 PhoenixDark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 01:12 shell wrote:
It's pretty sad! I had some friends over and i was like enjoy playing "pro evolution soccer" i'm gonna watch my man idra..

and he rage quits twice.. yeah kinda lame!

I'm sad and disapointed not because he lost, or because he might be playing bad but because he doesn't give a shit and he is quitter.. he allready happen so many times!

I'm going to keep cheering and supporting but his attitude really sucks.. and i kinda i'm getting tired of it


Why are you disappointed? He has been acting like this for a year if not more. It's clear he doesn't take the game seriously, and would rather blame his failures on race imbalances that haven't prevented other zergs from winning; the latter half of 2012 was dominated by Zergs winning tournaments with Infestors.

He doesn't care, so why should you?


He has sacrificed the majority of his teenage and young adult years to do what he does.

And people go on and on about other players doing so great and bla bla. He has still won tons compared to neary everyother foreign player.

Idra's fans can be unrational, but damn that goes just as true as his anti fans
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nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
May 09 2013 18:27 GMT
#55735
On May 10 2013 03:13 Facultyadjutant wrote:

He has sacrificed the majority of his teenage and young adult years to do what he does.



Well, it might be true that he 'sacrificed'. At least that's what my impression is. You don't become a pro gamer out of necessity, you become out of passion for a game (gaming in general, maybe). But in his case, there's no passion, he just looks like an obliged person doing something he doesn't want.

You can't say Grubby sacrificed majority of his teenage and young adult years to do what he does. Or White-ra, or Flash, or Goody, or ToD, Goody, Socke and the list can continue for some time. They love what they're doing.
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Scones
Profile Joined June 2012
Wales99 Posts
May 09 2013 18:39 GMT
#55736
IdrA's situation is a sad one...

He is a talented player, who definately has potential to win tournaments and play great.

The problem is, he is plagued by a horrendous mindset. He gets angry at the game, leaves games early and rages at other people, making a big chunk of the community dislike him.

The other big problem seems to be his dislike for the game. He has stated multiple times that he hates SC2. Watching his stream, it would seem that it makes him miserable(God knows why, he seems to have the best job I could imagine) and this probably has a HUGE impact on his results. How can you be good at something you don't enjoy?

I think IdrA's career will be over soon, unless by some miracle he can find a way to enjoy himself.

Good luck IdrA, I hope for the best!
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
May 09 2013 18:43 GMT
#55737
On May 10 2013 03:27 nucLeaRTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 03:13 Facultyadjutant wrote:

He has sacrificed the majority of his teenage and young adult years to do what he does.



Well, it might be true that he 'sacrificed'. At least that's what my impression is. You don't become a pro gamer out of necessity, you become out of passion for a game (gaming in general, maybe). But in his case, there's no passion, he just looks like an obliged person doing something he doesn't want.

You can't say Grubby sacrificed majority of his teenage and young adult years to do what he does. Or White-ra, or Flash, or Goody, or ToD, Goody, Socke and the list can continue for some time. They love what they're doing.



hgngnhgg the stupidity in some of the comparisons.

But fine, let's roll with it and say that's true across the board; why are you ignoring the countless fans that met him in real life where he is a cool person. ''He has no passion'' - what on earth are you basing this on? Idra exist in every other sport, soccer, tennis, golf, basketball all sports have these individuals. Saying they have no passion is ridiculous based on the information one has.
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Juggernaut477
Profile Joined May 2011
United States379 Posts
May 09 2013 19:02 GMT
#55738
On May 10 2013 03:12 Cirn9 wrote:
Why doesn't he just race swap if everything wrong with the game is balance? Learning a new race must be better than complaining about imbalance for three years.


He complains more about game design, not balance.
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
May 09 2013 22:12 GMT
#55739
On May 09 2013 13:43 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 13:36 LuckyMacro wrote:
On May 09 2013 13:02 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2013 13:01 oogieogie wrote:
On May 09 2013 11:52 Defacer wrote:
A lot of young comedians set themselves up to not try as hard, for instance half-improving a set on stage — so if they fail, they can pretend they weren't really trying or don't care anyways.

I still think IdrA privately cares, but pretends not to give a shit when he fails as a defense mechanism. It's something a lot of young people do, but it's a routine that's getting old.

the fact that he isn't performing is fine, but what he said is the real nail in the coffin for me being a idra supporter.

hopefully his attitude changes or else i dont see idra playing for much longer.

his attitude has been the same since before WoL...


He didn't leave a huge amount of games at 200/200 though.

he was on 3 empty bases agaisnt a 5 base terran


Wasn't my point at all...but okay. ._.
WarrickHunt
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom393 Posts
May 09 2013 22:16 GMT
#55740
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