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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
April 23 2013 19:48 GMT
#14341
On April 24 2013 04:46 iamperfection wrote:
Dany is pretty far away it seems. I'm gonna guess she wont be interacting with the other main characters for quite some time.


I know right. This is a source of much frustration for me, but i guess when it does happen it will be worth the wait.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Quexana
Profile Joined May 2012
98 Posts
April 23 2013 19:58 GMT
#14342
On April 24 2013 04:42 Steel wrote:
got a higher quality version? can't read anything..with out without char names is fine


+ Show Spoiler +
http://media2.giga.de/2012/11/speculative_map.jpg
[image loading]


This is the map I added the character names to, it is higher quality. I couldn't figure out how to upload the altered version in the same quality. I took it off of page 715 of this thread.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
April 23 2013 19:59 GMT
#14343
I think she still has no idea what to do when she gets to Westeros. She hasn't been there for such a long time. She doesn't know anything about it, about the big powers operating there. The most she knows is what her mad brother told her and this guy thought that all of Westeros is just waiting for him to return onto the throne.
Her best bet would be to wait till her dragons are prowerful enough to just take Westeros but she made it clear multiple times that she doesn't want to wait.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#14344
On April 24 2013 04:59 Don_Julio wrote:
I think she still has no idea what to do when she gets to Westeros. She hasn't been there for such a long time. She doesn't know anything about it, about the big powers operating there. The most she knows is what her mad brother told her and this guy thought that all of Westeros is just waiting for him to return onto the throne.
Her best bet would be to wait till her dragons are prowerful enough to just take Westeros but she made it clear multiple times that she doesn't want to wait.


Keep in mind that her two closest advisors spent most of their adult lives in Westeros, and Barristan Selmy was very close to those currently in power, among other great houses. I can't think of any single person I'd rather have advising her about what to expect when she returns.
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 20:05:16
April 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#14345
Edit: Deleted -
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 20:08:34
April 23 2013 20:08 GMT
#14346
my guess would be daenerys is going to sack/free the other slave cities along slaver's bay
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 23 2013 20:08 GMT
#14347
On April 24 2013 05:04 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 04:59 Don_Julio wrote:
I think she still has no idea what to do when she gets to Westeros. She hasn't been there for such a long time. She doesn't know anything about it, about the big powers operating there. The most she knows is what her mad brother told her and this guy thought that all of Westeros is just waiting for him to return onto the throne.
Her best bet would be to wait till her dragons are prowerful enough to just take Westeros but she made it clear multiple times that she doesn't want to wait.


Keep in mind that her two closest advisors spent most of their adult lives in Westeros, and Barristan Selmy was very close to those currently in power, among other great houses. I can't think of any single person I'd rather have advising her about what to expect when she returns.

are they? Selmy was a bodyguard basically, and failed 2 of the last 2 kings. well, 3 if you count the crown prince. The other guy wasnt even a big shot in the North, much less the rest of the empire. Just a guy who was good at being a knight apparently.
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
April 23 2013 20:14 GMT
#14348
On April 24 2013 05:08 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 05:04 ZasZ. wrote:
On April 24 2013 04:59 Don_Julio wrote:
I think she still has no idea what to do when she gets to Westeros. She hasn't been there for such a long time. She doesn't know anything about it, about the big powers operating there. The most she knows is what her mad brother told her and this guy thought that all of Westeros is just waiting for him to return onto the throne.
Her best bet would be to wait till her dragons are prowerful enough to just take Westeros but she made it clear multiple times that she doesn't want to wait.


Keep in mind that her two closest advisors spent most of their adult lives in Westeros, and Barristan Selmy was very close to those currently in power, among other great houses. I can't think of any single person I'd rather have advising her about what to expect when she returns.

are they? Selmy was a bodyguard basically, and failed 2 of the last 2 kings. well, 3 if you count the crown prince. The other guy wasnt even a big shot in the North, much less the rest of the empire. Just a guy who was good at being a knight apparently.


Regardless of if Barristan "failed" them, he still served as the highest ranked knight in the Seven Kingdoms. He knows what houses hold the power and he knows whose side most people are on. Obviously some changes have been made since he left. But i'm sure he has a pretty good idea.
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
Quexana
Profile Joined May 2012
98 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 20:16:46
April 23 2013 20:14 GMT
#14349
On April 24 2013 04:59 Don_Julio wrote:
I think she still has no idea what to do when she gets to Westeros. She hasn't been there for such a long time. She doesn't know anything about it, about the big powers operating there. The most she knows is what her mad brother told her and this guy thought that all of Westeros is just waiting for him to return onto the throne.
Her best bet would be to wait till her dragons are prowerful enough to just take Westeros but she made it clear multiple times that she doesn't want to wait.


I think Barristan Selmy will help her learn "the lay of the land" of Westeros. Also, it's not exactly a well kept secret that Varys wants her to return. The spider is a powerful ally to have if she's seeking information. I do agree that Dany should wait until her dragons are grown, yet she doesn't seem patient enough for that.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 23 2013 20:23 GMT
#14350
http://www.happyplace.com/23374/game-of-thrones-facebook-recap-season-3-episode-4

The facebook recaps are getting better and better. This is my favorite one so far. It's like the Starcrafts shorts, the owner is putting little things in that sometimes you need to reread part of it to get maximal entertainment out of it.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
April 23 2013 20:23 GMT
#14351
On April 24 2013 05:08 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 05:04 ZasZ. wrote:
On April 24 2013 04:59 Don_Julio wrote:
I think she still has no idea what to do when she gets to Westeros. She hasn't been there for such a long time. She doesn't know anything about it, about the big powers operating there. The most she knows is what her mad brother told her and this guy thought that all of Westeros is just waiting for him to return onto the throne.
Her best bet would be to wait till her dragons are prowerful enough to just take Westeros but she made it clear multiple times that she doesn't want to wait.


Keep in mind that her two closest advisors spent most of their adult lives in Westeros, and Barristan Selmy was very close to those currently in power, among other great houses. I can't think of any single person I'd rather have advising her about what to expect when she returns.

are they? Selmy was a bodyguard basically, and failed 2 of the last 2 kings. well, 3 if you count the crown prince. The other guy wasnt even a big shot in the North, much less the rest of the empire. Just a guy who was good at being a knight apparently.

I don't know if you can say that about Selmy. I mean Kings are mortal and he is neither god nor superman and it is kinda harsh blaming him for Jaime being backstab happy and Robert being drugged if not poisoned while hunting Bears. Not to mention Barristan was kicked out so he hardly failed Joffrey.
Gorg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany261 Posts
April 23 2013 20:28 GMT
#14352
On April 24 2013 04:42 Steel wrote:
got a higher quality version? can't read anything..with out without char names is fine


posted it a few pages ago:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://media2.giga.de/2012/11/speculative_map.jpg
[image loading]
Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
April 23 2013 20:29 GMT
#14353
Looking at the map i wonder why Robb doesnt march on Casterly Rock and forces the Lannister army to engage him. I mean he wanted to force a fight on open ground the whole time and laying siege unto Casterly Rock (with the Lannister/Tyrell army near Kings Landing) seems like it would force the Lannisters to either attack Robb or lose their home city and all the gold they have there.
"Did you know that in the original batman movie they casted nestea as joker but when batman threw him into the acid he was fine so they had to recast it with Jack Nicholson......it's a true fact" -Artosis
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22372 Posts
April 23 2013 20:36 GMT
#14354
On April 24 2013 05:29 Scio wrote:
Looking at the map i wonder why Robb doesnt march on Casterly Rock and forces the Lannister army to engage him. I mean he wanted to force a fight on open ground the whole time and laying siege unto Casterly Rock (with the Lannister/Tyrell army near Kings Landing) seems like it would force the Lannisters to either attack Robb or lose their home city and all the gold they have there.


Think your overestimating how easy is it to take a fortified castle, He could siege Casterly Rock and he would find himselves sandwiched against its walls when the rest of the Lannister army hits him in the back.
Tywinn is no fool. he will have left enough behind to ensure its safety long enough for reinforcements.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
April 23 2013 20:41 GMT
#14355
On April 24 2013 05:36 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 05:29 Scio wrote:
Looking at the map i wonder why Robb doesnt march on Casterly Rock and forces the Lannister army to engage him. I mean he wanted to force a fight on open ground the whole time and laying siege unto Casterly Rock (with the Lannister/Tyrell army near Kings Landing) seems like it would force the Lannisters to either attack Robb or lose their home city and all the gold they have there.


Think your overestimating how easy is it to take a fortified castle, He could siege Casterly Rock and he would find himselves sandwiched against its walls when the rest of the Lannister army hits him in the back.
Tywinn is no fool. he will have left enough behind to ensure its safety long enough for reinforcements.


I guess you are right that he wont be able to take the castle before the Lannister army arrives but it would still force them to move and Robb could avoid getting sandwiched if he has scouts reporting if the Lannister army moves out.
I just thought that instead of chasing the Lannister army through half of Westeros just to fight them he could force the fight (isnt that what he wanted all along?).
"Did you know that in the original batman movie they casted nestea as joker but when batman threw him into the acid he was fine so they had to recast it with Jack Nicholson......it's a true fact" -Artosis
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 23 2013 20:43 GMT
#14356
On April 24 2013 04:47 Emnjay808 wrote:
*sigh... I suppose its time I start rewatching season 1 and 2 again.

Ill be able to pick up on more subtle details and try to catch hints/clues on plot progression etc.

i highly recommend to do so. Even with having read the books, i re-watched the first 2 seasons before the third began.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8081 Posts
April 23 2013 20:57 GMT
#14357
On April 24 2013 04:47 Emnjay808 wrote:
*sigh... I suppose its time I start rewatching season 1 and 2 again.

Ill be able to pick up on more subtle details and try to catch hints/clues on plot progression etc.


Don't want to be mean, but there is nothing very "subtle" at all in the whole show.

That's might even be why it's so enjoyable.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
April 23 2013 21:01 GMT
#14358
On April 24 2013 05:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 04:47 Emnjay808 wrote:
*sigh... I suppose its time I start rewatching season 1 and 2 again.

Ill be able to pick up on more subtle details and try to catch hints/clues on plot progression etc.


Don't want to be mean, but there is nothing very "subtle" at all in the whole show.

That's might even be why it's so enjoyable.


I think he meant the stuff that happened so fast you kind of miss it, or characters that reappear and you have no idea who they are.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8081 Posts
April 23 2013 21:09 GMT
#14359
On April 24 2013 06:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 05:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On April 24 2013 04:47 Emnjay808 wrote:
*sigh... I suppose its time I start rewatching season 1 and 2 again.

Ill be able to pick up on more subtle details and try to catch hints/clues on plot progression etc.


Don't want to be mean, but there is nothing very "subtle" at all in the whole show.

That's might even be why it's so enjoyable.


I think he meant the stuff that happened so fast you kind of miss it, or characters that reappear and you have no idea who they are.

I know, but I couldn't resist to try to be clever
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
April 23 2013 21:12 GMT
#14360
On April 24 2013 06:09 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 06:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 24 2013 05:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On April 24 2013 04:47 Emnjay808 wrote:
*sigh... I suppose its time I start rewatching season 1 and 2 again.

Ill be able to pick up on more subtle details and try to catch hints/clues on plot progression etc.


Don't want to be mean, but there is nothing very "subtle" at all in the whole show.

That's might even be why it's so enjoyable.


I think he meant the stuff that happened so fast you kind of miss it, or characters that reappear and you have no idea who they are.

I know, but I couldn't resist to try to be clever


Well of course, that's what the internet is for
RIP Meatloaf <3
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