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frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
May 29 2012 22:35 GMT
#10781
Btw I'm so glad I didn't read the books (yet) because I really love theatre/cinema and this is like Harry Potter mixed with Braveheart. LOVE IT
I had a bad dream. Don't be afraid, bad dreams are only dreams. What a time you chose to be born in...
Quexana
Profile Joined May 2012
98 Posts
May 29 2012 22:38 GMT
#10782
Maybe I'm just weird, but when all those ships blew up in Blackwater Bay I thought about Banelings. Too much Starcraft lately
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
May 29 2012 22:45 GMT
#10783
On May 30 2012 07:33 frontliner2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 07:30 JethroTV wrote:
On May 30 2012 07:16 frontliner2 wrote:
Tyrian becoming injured was very clear to me. The Kingsguards slashed one side of his face and snapped trough a cheekbone or jawbone. Tyrian is fine. He's not bleeding heavily.

He could die of infection though.


I agree that he is probably fine, as a result of the battle ending shortly after his injury.

But what I don't understand is why the Kings guard slashed him in the first place? Is this supposed to be taken as accidental? That is, just swinging in the chaos of battle? Or is this supposed to be taken as a deliberate attempt to kill him?


I was confused but then lying in bed it came to me... Cersei! She is so bent on hurting Tyrian it must have been her.


Why would she do that? She'd rather watch him suffer.

She (thinks she) has Tyrion's girl locked up somewhere, she said she made it her life goal to watch him as she takes what he loves away from him. She would get absolutely zero satisfaction out of knowing that he died on a battlefield somewhere; in fact, she would probably be angry about it.

Joffrey is possible, but again, I think he does have some respect for Tyrion as his family member/a leader of the war, just not seeing the motive for killing him off. It seems like something the Kingsguard wanted to do on his own.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
May 29 2012 22:46 GMT
#10784
On May 30 2012 07:45 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 07:33 frontliner2 wrote:
On May 30 2012 07:30 JethroTV wrote:
On May 30 2012 07:16 frontliner2 wrote:
Tyrian becoming injured was very clear to me. The Kingsguards slashed one side of his face and snapped trough a cheekbone or jawbone. Tyrian is fine. He's not bleeding heavily.

He could die of infection though.


I agree that he is probably fine, as a result of the battle ending shortly after his injury.

But what I don't understand is why the Kings guard slashed him in the first place? Is this supposed to be taken as accidental? That is, just swinging in the chaos of battle? Or is this supposed to be taken as a deliberate attempt to kill him?


I was confused but then lying in bed it came to me... Cersei! She is so bent on hurting Tyrian it must have been her.


Why would she do that? She'd rather watch him suffer.

She (thinks she) has Tyrion's girl locked up somewhere, she said she made it her life goal to watch him as she takes what he loves away from him. She would get absolutely zero satisfaction out of knowing that he died on a battlefield somewhere; in fact, she would probably be angry about it.

Joffrey is possible, but again, I think he does have some respect for Tyrion as his family member/a leader of the war, just not seeing the motive for killing him off. It seems like something the Kingsguard wanted to do on his own.


You forgot to quote my other possibility, The guard personal hate for Tyrian
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Quexana
Profile Joined May 2012
98 Posts
May 29 2012 22:49 GMT
#10785
On May 30 2012 07:35 frontliner2 wrote:
Btw I'm so glad I didn't read the books (yet) because I really love theatre/cinema and this is like Harry Potter mixed with Braveheart. LOVE IT


Honestly, you're not missing a whole lot by not reading. The show, for the most part, has been remarkebly faithful to the books. There have been more changes in the second season (especially with the Arya and Dany storylines), but nothing earth-shattering. I'm very happy they're going to seperate book three into two seasons instead of just one as it will give the many different story threads a bit more room to breathe. Also, book 3 is imho the best in the series so far.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 29 2012 23:00 GMT
#10786
Always thought it was amusing that two of my favourite actors/ characters look so similar lol. In fact their characters even behave similarly!!

[image loading]
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 23:20:46
May 29 2012 23:11 GMT
#10787
On May 30 2012 06:34 Quexana wrote:
Jaime Lannister, faced with the choice of betraying his King or betraying his family, chose his family and killed the King. Say what you will about Jaime, he's never made any bones about putting his family first.

Didn't he strangle his nephew cousin(?) only a few episodes ago?

lol @ above pic
lalala
Papulatus
Profile Joined July 2010
United States669 Posts
May 29 2012 23:25 GMT
#10788
On May 30 2012 07:45 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 07:33 frontliner2 wrote:
On May 30 2012 07:30 JethroTV wrote:
On May 30 2012 07:16 frontliner2 wrote:
Tyrian becoming injured was very clear to me. The Kingsguards slashed one side of his face and snapped trough a cheekbone or jawbone. Tyrian is fine. He's not bleeding heavily.

He could die of infection though.


I agree that he is probably fine, as a result of the battle ending shortly after his injury.

But what I don't understand is why the Kings guard slashed him in the first place? Is this supposed to be taken as accidental? That is, just swinging in the chaos of battle? Or is this supposed to be taken as a deliberate attempt to kill him?


I was confused but then lying in bed it came to me... Cersei! She is so bent on hurting Tyrian it must have been her.


Why would she do that? She'd rather watch him suffer.

She (thinks she) has Tyrion's girl locked up somewhere, she said she made it her life goal to watch him as she takes what he loves away from him. She would get absolutely zero satisfaction out of knowing that he died on a battlefield somewhere; in fact, she would probably be angry about it.

Joffrey is possible, but again, I think he does have some respect for Tyrion as his family member/a leader of the war, just not seeing the motive for killing him off. It seems like something the Kingsguard wanted to do on his own.


Cersei saw a chance to kill Tyrion without anyone asking questions. I don't see how it doesn't make sense. I'm sure she would love to watch him suffer, but she knows that Tyrion is smart, so I would think she would take what ever chance she can get.
4 Corners in a day.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 23:32:08
May 29 2012 23:31 GMT
#10789
As much as the Lanisters bicker, I feel like their family unity is the real deal. Cercei would never order a kill on her brother and Joffery seems like the type that only does cruel things to show that he's a big man; doing something sneaky would be out of character and hell it would be too clever for him to think of anyways.

Jayme's a really complicated character - huge ego, but extremely loyal to his siblings and pretty much inherited his father's ruthlessness when it comes to doing what needs to be done to accomplish his goals. You get the feeling that at heart, he's very principled, but at the same time is very morally devoid, which leads to him doing some really brutal shit. At least that's what I get from watching his scenes.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 06:14:02
May 29 2012 23:45 GMT
#10790
On May 30 2012 08:11 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 06:34 Quexana wrote:
Jaime Lannister, faced with the choice of betraying his King or betraying his family, chose his family and killed the King. Say what you will about Jaime, he's never made any bones about putting his family first.

Didn't he strangle his nephew cousin(?) only a few episodes ago?


spoilers

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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6657 Posts
May 29 2012 23:47 GMT
#10791
On May 30 2012 08:00 sc4k wrote:
Always thought it was amusing that two of my favourite actors/ characters look so similar lol. In fact their characters even behave similarly!!

[image loading]

Oh fuck mind has been blown! No wonder I like him so much O.o
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
May 29 2012 23:47 GMT
#10792
On May 30 2012 08:11 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 06:34 Quexana wrote:
Jaime Lannister, faced with the choice of betraying his King or betraying his family, chose his family and killed the King. Say what you will about Jaime, he's never made any bones about putting his family first.

Didn't he strangle his nephew cousin(?) only a few episodes ago?

lol @ above pic


Alton was a more distant relation from what I gathered. I believe he was like a 2nd or 3rd cousin at closest.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 00:03:49
May 30 2012 00:02 GMT
#10793
On May 30 2012 08:25 Papulatus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 07:45 Cel.erity wrote:
On May 30 2012 07:33 frontliner2 wrote:
On May 30 2012 07:30 JethroTV wrote:
On May 30 2012 07:16 frontliner2 wrote:
Tyrian becoming injured was very clear to me. The Kingsguards slashed one side of his face and snapped trough a cheekbone or jawbone. Tyrian is fine. He's not bleeding heavily.

He could die of infection though.


I agree that he is probably fine, as a result of the battle ending shortly after his injury.

But what I don't understand is why the Kings guard slashed him in the first place? Is this supposed to be taken as accidental? That is, just swinging in the chaos of battle? Or is this supposed to be taken as a deliberate attempt to kill him?


I was confused but then lying in bed it came to me... Cersei! She is so bent on hurting Tyrian it must have been her.


Why would she do that? She'd rather watch him suffer.

She (thinks she) has Tyrion's girl locked up somewhere, she said she made it her life goal to watch him as she takes what he loves away from him. She would get absolutely zero satisfaction out of knowing that he died on a battlefield somewhere; in fact, she would probably be angry about it.

Joffrey is possible, but again, I think he does have some respect for Tyrion as his family member/a leader of the war, just not seeing the motive for killing him off. It seems like something the Kingsguard wanted to do on his own.


Cersei saw a chance to kill Tyrion without anyone asking questions. I don't see how it doesn't make sense. I'm sure she would love to watch him suffer, but she knows that Tyrion is smart, so I would think she would take what ever chance she can get.


But Cercei ultimately doesn't hate Tyrion enough to want to kill him. Cercei loves her children and only her children, but Tyrion is not a threat to them and deep down I'm sure she realizes that he's also looking out for her nieces and nephews despite doing things she doesn't always agree with. Granted I am no expert on the psychology of Cercei Lannister but judging from her personality so far, I don't think she'd want Tyrion dead.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 06:14:20
May 30 2012 00:06 GMT
#10794
On May 30 2012 08:45 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 08:11 youngminii wrote:
On May 30 2012 06:34 Quexana wrote:
Jaime Lannister, faced with the choice of betraying his King or betraying his family, chose his family and killed the King. Say what you will about Jaime, he's never made any bones about putting his family first.

Didn't he strangle his nephew cousin(?) only a few episodes ago?

.


you gonna get warned
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[Aot]_Aether
Profile Joined May 2012
United States89 Posts
May 30 2012 00:08 GMT
#10795
What is the vendetta against the books? They might clarify some points without giving away spoilers!
Tell me builds to help me win, please. :)
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
May 30 2012 00:24 GMT
#10796
On May 30 2012 07:18 chocopaw wrote:
Some of Ned's actions deserve to be called dumb, "Littlefinger tells you not to trust him - trust Littlefinger" aside.
His story was interesting: a man of honor being forced to enter a rats nest full of intrigues, lies and a special kind of survival of the fittest. But clinging to his values is one thing, being blind to reality a whole other. His biggest mistake was obviously warning the queen, thereby killing his friend Robert as Varys laid out.
That's why I like to call Stannis a "Ned with brains". He bases his actions on what is "rightful" as well, but sees the world for what it is and does not delude himself. Obviously, he is a Ned without heart as well.^^

And you can hardly deny that Jon was pretty annoying at times, especially regarding that woman.

Sansa on the other hand is not dumb at all. She was naive at first, believing in stories of noble knights and so on, but she has adapted to the dire situation very well, to quote Tyrion: "Lady Stark, you may survive us yet."

Show nested quote +
Greyjoys were their sworn enemies... You do realize, the Greyjoys swore fealty and peace after being defeated right? To be a sworn enemy, you can't really swear fealty... The two are mutually exclusive. Greyjoys wouldn't send their son to hostage at Winterfell if they were sworn enemies. Again, you don't seem to grasp the nuance of the world.


This is so cute it has to be sarcasm. :D It did not cross your mind that people might swear a lot of things with a sword in front of them?
"Send their son to hostage"? Balon was facing utter destruction, he had no saying at all about his sons fate.


You should look up the definition of sworn enemy. Hint: it involves swearing your enmity. There's a reason Ned didn't destroy the Greyjoys when he could have. There's a reason Rob thought Balon could be reasoned with. Hint: the Greyjoys weren't their sworn enemies.
Quexana
Profile Joined May 2012
98 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 06:15:09
May 30 2012 00:31 GMT
#10797
On May 30 2012 09:08 [Aot]_Aether wrote:
What is the vendetta against the books? They might clarify some points without giving away spoilers!


There's nothing wrong with having read the books, I love them. Yet in a show-specific thread like this, the book readers should be very sensitive to the non-book readers. While that is technically true, it's not helpful to the non-book readers who are coming to understand this magnificant, but difficult, story as a show. I think the book-readers, having a bit more understanding of the charactors and more knowlege of the exposition, can assist the non-book readers in understanding bits that they might have missed, or have forgotten because they're being told the story one hour at a time over the course of weeks and weeks. They can offer a bit more perspective to the non-book readers. But nitpicking over the differences between the books and the show or saying that something is out-of-character for a character because he doesn't do it in the books is wrong.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 00:36:51
May 30 2012 00:33 GMT
#10798
But Jaime really cares about his family. A bad scene for cut money in actors, is a bad scene.
Quexana
Profile Joined May 2012
98 Posts
May 30 2012 00:42 GMT
#10799
On May 30 2012 08:11 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 06:34 Quexana wrote:
Jaime Lannister, faced with the choice of betraying his King or betraying his family, chose his family and killed the King. Say what you will about Jaime, he's never made any bones about putting his family first.

Didn't he strangle his nephew cousin(?) only a few episodes ago?

lol @ above pic


He did, it was a distant cousin. I was speaking more along the lines of his immediate family (Tywin, Cersei, Tyrion, Joffrey, Tommen, Myrcella). Remember, he had to be reminded that he had ever even met this relative before.
Mattacate
Profile Joined September 2011
59 Posts
May 30 2012 00:42 GMT
#10800
On May 29 2012 22:03 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 21:32 Blackfish wrote:
Do I get it right that the lannisters as a whole are not hated here? I don´t know, i have a bit of sympathy for tyrion... but the others, pure hate. Starks ftw!
Seriously they are so fucked up. All about being mighty not thinking once about the people just sitting on their thrones and throwing around with their gold.


Why would you hate all of them?
Tyrion is just awesome
Joffrey yes everyone hates him and justly so
Tywin is ruthless but brilliant. Hes rebuild his house to glory, secured the throne through cercei and while he has no problem with killing civilians to further his ends you have to realise that in the world they live in thats pretty normal.
Jamie, while obv wrong for screwing his sister doesnt have any reason to be hated beyond that.
Cercei is bad but considering she got wed off to Robert who didnt want her so she could put a kid lannister on the throne. As she said in the last episode she basicly wanted to be what Arya is but her father (understandably) wouldnt let her.


Uh, Jaime murdered a relative who obviously idolized him so he could kill a solider so he could escape, when knocking them both out would have served.
In fairness Jaime's character isn't really like that, he's smart; not cruel, but still.
And yeah he threw Bran off a building, essentially caused Ned's death through capturing him when all he wanted to do was leave and generally is a dick.
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