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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 12:40:32
June 05 2014 12:21 GMT
#24561
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Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Flyingdutchman
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands858 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 12:45:44
June 05 2014 12:45 GMT
#24562
On June 05 2014 21:19 Shock710 wrote:
whos llliryo?



the dude that brokered the deal between Vyseris and Drogo. Trading his sister for an army, right?
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
June 05 2014 12:59 GMT
#24563
just wondering, does tommen have the authority to pardon tyrion ? Since the fate of trial by combat are decided by the gods, it should be over his head, no ?
I like starcraft
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
June 05 2014 13:04 GMT
#24564
Wait I thought Illyrio was the guy who taught arya how to fight with a stick.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
June 05 2014 13:07 GMT
#24565
That's syrio
way2mash4u
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany183 Posts
June 05 2014 13:07 GMT
#24566
That was Syrio Farell(?).
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
June 05 2014 13:09 GMT
#24567
Illyrio is the guy that made the deal with Drogo and was at their wedding and gave her the Dragon eggs too.
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
June 05 2014 13:17 GMT
#24568
Ohhh right, bloody names sounding the same. Also Martell and Tyrell give me no end of confusion T_T
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 05 2014 13:25 GMT
#24569
On June 05 2014 19:59 imJealous wrote:
Alright guys, I think I figured out what's going to happen to Tyrion...

So clearly Jaime is going to stage a daring prison break for his brother and the two of them are going to sneak out of the city inconspicuously. They shouldn't have any trouble blending in as commoners, neither of them are super well known individuals in Kings Landing or have any strikingly noticeable features like a golden hand or being half as tall as a normal human! Once they escape Kings Landing without incident they will make for the wall where they can both be safe from the rule of law. After all, the nights watch has stood for thousands of years, its not going anywhere any time soon!

Along the way they won't have much trouble, Bolton's control the north now and Jaime has a great relationship with those people. But if they do get into a fight, Jaime's master swordsmanship should be more than enough to protect them and if it isn't, Tyrion always knows how to leverage his Lannister heritage to get them out of a pickle!

Once they arrive at the wall they meet up with all the remaining Stark family members who all happen to be meeting up for a reunion at the same time! You see, Lady Brienne and Podrick met up with Arya and the Hound and they started a happy little nuclear family unit and headed to the wall to meet up with John, Rickon and Osha, Brann and Hodor (Sansa stayed with little finger cause she always sucked anyway). Brann Just came back from beyond the wall where he talked to some magical tree that blew up all the white walkers! In the chain reaction, about 99% of the wildlings were caught in the blast as well, leaving only Mance Raider, Tormund Giantsbain, and Egritte who proceeded to storm Castle Black by themselves, killing Alistar Thorn and Janos Slint before John was able to convince them to just join the night's watch instead.

So anyway, Jaime, Tyrion, and Bronn arrive at the wall (oh I did mention that Bronn decided to come with them? I mean Tyrion is still insanely rich right?! Why WOULDN'T Bronn continue serving him!) and Jaime tells Brann he's sorry about that one time he pushed him out of that window and Brann forgives him because hey, it was all part of him discovering his powers. Anyways they all have a good laugh and become best friends.

MEANWHILE... Outraged at the wrongful death of fair prince Oberyn, Dorne rises up in revolt against the crown! They join forces with Stannis, the Iron Bank of Bravos, Daenerys with her dragons and her army, Littlefinger with Sansa and the Knights of The Vale, whatever is left of the north, the Ironborn (who just finished wiping out house Bolton), whatever country Lady Talisa (Robb's wife) was from, and pretty much everyone else that Tywin, Cersi, or Joffery shat on over the years and march on Kings Landing, where the Tyrells let them in!

Oberyn's identical twin brother Oberyn2 murders Cersi then proceeds to make love to... pretty much everyone. Loris Tyrell murders the shit out of Stannis and the Red Woman for what they did to Renly. Before the battle gets any more out of hand Davos Seaworth convinces King Tommin of Tywin's evil ways. His eyes now open, King Tommin declares Sir Davos his new hand of the king and orders Sir Pounce to destroy his evil grandfather! The bold Sir Pounce leaps off Tommin's lap and rips Tywin Lannister's head right off! Everyone cheers and the fighting stops!

In order to ensure a long lasting peace, Tommin marries both Margery Tyrell and Daenerys Stormborn and is declared the pimpest king in the history of the seven kingdoms! The massive wedding ceremony is held not just for Tommin and his two brides, but also to celebrate the marriages of Jaime and Brienne, John and Egritte, Same and Gilly, Arya and Gendry, and Messandei and Grey Worm. Sir Jorah Mormont shows up to the ceremony to see Dany off, they talk out their problems and forgive each other, but Jorah is still stuck in the friend zone. Hotpie prepares the feast and The Brootherhood without Banners provides entertaiment, the highlight of which is a magic show where Thoros of Myr asks The Hound to come up from the audience and saw Berric Dondarrion in half with a flaming sword. No one dies (except Berric Dondarrion), but that doesn't stop Edmure Tully from making jokes about how "you guys think this wedding is crazy now... just wait till they play Rains of Castemere!".

As the party winds down, Tyrion walks out to the edge of the party, drink in hand, and smiles at the spirits of Ned Stark, Robert Baratheon, Tywin, and Joffery who all smile back and laugh as if they were old friends...


5/5 would read again.
TheSneak
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 13:27:52
June 05 2014 13:27 GMT
#24570
Maybe I'm taking the whole thing too seriously, but this show has officially lost me now... The HORRENDOUS juvenile love/sighing/wistful staring thing between worm dude and Targaryen's handmaiden, the iron born guys walking out of a castle on foot into a waiting army, The Dornish prince guy doing the whole 'Dr Evil' supervillain let-the-victim-escape-and-win thing, the mountain being stabbed twice (once clean through his abdomen all the way through his back with a spear) and having his achilles sliced, magically not suffering any bleeding and *still* getting up to crush a man's skull. With his bare hands.

No.

I got into GoT because of the gritty coolness of it... now it's just becoming 'Spartacus does Medieval'. Even Sansa has magically gone from the most naive female character whose inexperience is joked about, to a sexy princess playing games with Peter Baelish... in like half an episode.

Or maybe I'm just over reacting to what was a particularly dumb episode...


Edit: spelling
"We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about." -A. Einstein
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 05 2014 13:31 GMT
#24571
On June 05 2014 22:27 TheSneak wrote:
Maybe I'm taking the whole thing too seriously, but this show has officially lost me now... The HORRENDOUS juvenile love/sighing/wistful staring thing between worm dude and Targaryen's handmaiden, the iron born guys walking out of a castle on foot into a waiting army, The Dornish prince guy doing the whole 'Dr Evil' supervillain let-the-victim-escape-and-win thing, the mountain being stabbed twice (once clean through his abdomen all the way through his back with a spear) and having his achilles sliced, magically not suffering any bleeding and *still* getting up to crush a man's skull. With his bare hands.

No.

I got into GoT because of the gritty coolness of it... now it's just becoming 'Spartacus does Medieval'. Even Sansa has magically gone from the most naive female character whose inexperience is joked about, to a sexy princess playing games with Peter Baelish... in like half an episode.

Or maybe I'm just over reacting to what was a particularly dumb episode...


Edit: spelling

Doesn't seem unreasonable that the iron borns were betrayed. The duel maybe could have been done slightly better but I thought it was superb. As for Sansa, she's been learning for a while during her time at King's Landing. She just couldn't do much about her situation there.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 13:41:12
June 05 2014 13:40 GMT
#24572
On June 05 2014 22:27 TheSneak wrote:
Maybe I'm taking the whole thing too seriously, but this show has officially lost me now... The HORRENDOUS juvenile love/sighing/wistful staring thing between worm dude and Targaryen's handmaiden, the iron born guys walking out of a castle on foot into a waiting army, The Dornish prince guy doing the whole 'Dr Evil' supervillain let-the-victim-escape-and-win thing, the mountain being stabbed twice (once clean through his abdomen all the way through his back with a spear) and having his achilles sliced, magically not suffering any bleeding and *still* getting up to crush a man's skull. With his bare hands.

No.

I got into GoT because of the gritty coolness of it... now it's just becoming 'Spartacus does Medieval'. Even Sansa has magically gone from the most naive female character whose inexperience is joked about, to a sexy princess playing games with Peter Baelish... in like half an episode.

Or maybe I'm just over reacting to what was a particularly dumb episode...


These are all reasonably legit complaints but they change GoT from 9/10 to 8.95/10 imo so meh still worth watching .

That stupid shit between greyworm and the handmaiden did suck ass. The iron born guys...meh these things happen when people are starving (and they thought their prince would at least garner them some sort of political protection I suppose). Oberyn walking around the Mountain's body was a bit retarded I will certainly admit in hindsight; he should have stayed back. However sometimes humans do extremely stupid things, which they will certainly regret in the future, when they have a swell of emotions clouding their judgement. In terms of bleeding, I would imagine that quite a lot of blood will be caught by the leather/whatever other fabric the Mountain is wearing underneath his armour so you should chill out on that criticism.

As for Sansa, yeah well I never got her character, think she is one of the most awkward, weird and unbelievable characters. But meh, GRRM gets it right for almost everyone so there are bound to be a few who slip through the net.
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
June 05 2014 13:40 GMT
#24573
Even if you arent sexually aroused by something, there could still be interest to actually see what is underneath a womans clothes. The show even hinted they might not be fully castrated too.

The iron born have been there since long before robb stark died. They are tired, starving and incredibly sick judging by the guys that theon was talking too. You have been isolated from all the rest of your kinsman and have to fight off 2 armies from both sides. You will die eventually, better to take a risk on your prince showing you terms to be given safe passage. Even if it seemed fishy it is better than a certain death. Plus they didnt know theon was captured and mutilated since they are isolated and sourrounded.

Oberyn didnt just want revenge on the mountain, he wanted the mountain to prove that tywin gave him the order. Whether or not tywin did it, it is all Oberyn wants from his visit to kings landing to get the truth out and kill tywin lannister. The mountain is fucking huge too so a few cuts dont hurt much. Then again he did fall to the ground and he did collapse after getting a spear through him. He didnt get up on the ground and kill oberyn, he knocked him to the ground and then killed him. Sure he mightnt be able to get up, but its not like he did so I dont see your complaint.

Plus it is already known the mountain can crush skulls so we are told he did it to oberyns sister so its not a far off idea that he can do it again. He is also one of the biggest men around.

You seem to be complaining without actually thinking it through in some kind of logic. The only valid complaint would be oberyn talking and not just killing the mountain but it can be explained that his passion and drive for revenge got the better off him so he lost focus and then the fight.

Sansa's transformation has been a subtle process for over a season now. Pretty much since after black water bay. In the show she is always called beautiful so the sudden sexy princess thing doesnt make sense.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
June 05 2014 13:43 GMT
#24574
I don't see the problem with the garrison giving up. They were starved and dying from disease. A siege would mean certain death. So they gave up.
"Walking out of a castle" is usually what follows surrender. I really don't see what's wrong with this.
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 05 2014 13:45 GMT
#24575
On June 05 2014 19:59 imJealous wrote:
Alright guys, I think I figured out what's going to happen to Tyrion...

So clearly Jaime is going to stage a daring prison break for his brother and the two of them are going to sneak out of the city inconspicuously. They shouldn't have any trouble blending in as commoners, neither of them are super well known individuals in Kings Landing or have any strikingly noticeable features like a golden hand or being half as tall as a normal human! Once they escape Kings Landing without incident they will make for the wall where they can both be safe from the rule of law. After all, the nights watch has stood for thousands of years, its not going anywhere any time soon!

Along the way they won't have much trouble, Bolton's control the north now and Jaime has a great relationship with those people. But if they do get into a fight, Jaime's master swordsmanship should be more than enough to protect them and if it isn't, Tyrion always knows how to leverage his Lannister heritage to get them out of a pickle!

Once they arrive at the wall they meet up with all the remaining Stark family members who all happen to be meeting up for a reunion at the same time! You see, Lady Brienne and Podrick met up with Arya and the Hound and they started a happy little nuclear family unit and headed to the wall to meet up with John, Rickon and Osha, Brann and Hodor (Sansa stayed with little finger cause she always sucked anyway). Brann Just came back from beyond the wall where he talked to some magical tree that blew up all the white walkers! In the chain reaction, about 99% of the wildlings were caught in the blast as well, leaving only Mance Raider, Tormund Giantsbain, and Egritte who proceeded to storm Castle Black by themselves, killing Alistar Thorn and Janos Slint before John was able to convince them to just join the night's watch instead.

So anyway, Jaime, Tyrion, and Bronn arrive at the wall (oh I did mention that Bronn decided to come with them? I mean Tyrion is still insanely rich right?! Why WOULDN'T Bronn continue serving him!) and Jaime tells Brann he's sorry about that one time he pushed him out of that window and Brann forgives him because hey, it was all part of him discovering his powers. Anyways they all have a good laugh and become best friends.

MEANWHILE... Outraged at the wrongful death of fair prince Oberyn, Dorne rises up in revolt against the crown! They join forces with Stannis, the Iron Bank of Bravos, Daenerys with her dragons and her army, Littlefinger with Sansa and the Knights of The Vale, whatever is left of the north, the Ironborn (who just finished wiping out house Bolton), whatever country Lady Talisa (Robb's wife) was from, and pretty much everyone else that Tywin, Cersi, or Joffery shat on over the years and march on Kings Landing, where the Tyrells let them in!

Oberyn's identical twin brother Oberyn2 murders Cersi then proceeds to make love to... pretty much everyone. Loris Tyrell murders the shit out of Stannis and the Red Woman for what they did to Renly. Before the battle gets any more out of hand Davos Seaworth convinces King Tommin of Tywin's evil ways. His eyes now open, King Tommin declares Sir Davos his new hand of the king and orders Sir Pounce to destroy his evil grandfather! The bold Sir Pounce leaps off Tommin's lap and rips Tywin Lannister's head right off! Everyone cheers and the fighting stops!

In order to ensure a long lasting peace, Tommin marries both Margery Tyrell and Daenerys Stormborn and is declared the pimpest king in the history of the seven kingdoms! The massive wedding ceremony is held not just for Tommin and his two brides, but also to celebrate the marriages of Jaime and Brienne, John and Egritte, Same and Gilly, Arya and Gendry, and Messandei and Grey Worm. Sir Jorah Mormont shows up to the ceremony to see Dany off, they talk out their problems and forgive each other, but Jorah is still stuck in the friend zone. Hotpie prepares the feast and The Brootherhood without Banners provides entertaiment, the highlight of which is a magic show where Thoros of Myr asks The Hound to come up from the audience and saw Berric Dondarrion in half with a flaming sword. No one dies (except Berric Dondarrion), but that doesn't stop Edmure Tully from making jokes about how "you guys think this wedding is crazy now... just wait till they play Rains of Castemere!".

As the party winds down, Tyrion walks out to the edge of the party, drink in hand, and smiles at the spirits of Ned Stark, Robert Baratheon, Tywin, and Joffery who all smile back and laugh as if they were old friends...



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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
June 05 2014 13:48 GMT
#24576
By the way he didn't crush Oberyn's skull with his bare hands. He put his entire weight on it while wearing gauntlets. Although the explosive balloon-esque sound/visual is a bit over the top, the general outcome would surely be achievable IRL.
TheSneak
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia118 Posts
June 05 2014 13:53 GMT
#24577
Fair enough, but I really didnt buy the iron born betrayal thing... Those guys came into the show as the most hardass fighters around who aren't afraid of dying. Then in this scene, one of them not only wants to surrender (totally against their culture), but murders his leader (none of the others bat an eyelid or have any differences of opinion at all to this action) and voluntarily leaves a besieged castle and walks straight up to the opposing army... What did they think would happen? And we're also supposed to believe all the other iron born followed him and surrendered the castle.

'But a captive of the enemy - some bloke I've never met who said he was my prince and keeps muttering a bit insanely to himself - said we would live lol'

The 'tension' with the unsullied and the handmaiden is 100% cringeworthy.

I agree the duel was superb but the Dr.Evil thing at the end was absolutely terrible. And how did the mountain even sustain that much physical strength for so long after the wounds he had suffered? Why wasn't he bleeding profusely? A spear blade the length of my forearm literally went all the way through him and out the other side.

And Sansa... well... At least now she can get her tits out too I guess. Every other female does
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
June 05 2014 13:55 GMT
#24578
Wouldn't be the first time the ironborn betrayed their commander in this show.
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 05 2014 13:59 GMT
#24579
I agree that the eunuch love story is silly, just about as silly as Messendei "not knowing" that the unsullied were eunuchs when she was the translater for the slave master who sold them, and Unsullied being eunuchs seemed like it would be pretty common knowledge; Dario knew and made the comment to Greyworm about it when they were having their who can hold the sword and sit still the longest contest. Sometimes the show writers add scenes that don't make much sense. I also agree that Sansa going from naive girl to let me dress super seductive felt off. I think she has been learning to be less naive, but the actual transformation felt way too sudden and out of place. Read the books if you want a more "realistic" portrayal that addresses most of your complaints.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
June 05 2014 14:05 GMT
#24580
On June 05 2014 21:19 Shock710 wrote:
whos llliryo?


I think that guy in Pentos who housed Daenerys and her brother.
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