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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:49 Ayaz2810 wrote: I finally saw the episode last night, and I don't know if its been mentioned, but if Oberyn AND the mountain are both dead.... Who wins? Does Tyrion go back to court? Cause I think that's what happened. I think it would have been hard for the show to make it clearer. Tywin sentences Tyrion to death at the very end, meaning he lost his trial. The Mountain is alive, and Oberyn is short a head. There is no debate to be had. | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:53 Spaylz wrote: I think it would have been hard for the show to make it clearer. Tywin sentences Tyrion to death at the very end, meaning he lost his trial. The Mountain is alive, and Oberyn is short a head. There is no debate to be had. Well I'm thinking the announcement of Tyrions impending death was for the viewers benefit. My guess is at the beginning of the next episode, its revealed that the mountain perished from his injuries and the duel is considered a draw. Of course Tywin didn't know that at the time he made the announcement. I'm just trying to think of what developments could keep Tyrion alive. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24143 Posts
It would be a comical counter to the unruliness and savageness of Joffrey. Tyrion is his cousin/uncle and he has likely been filled with much of the same crap about 'family' Tywin fed his kids. I don't know if he would have the balls to stand up for something like that without being talked out of it, but he does strike me as the type that would at least consider a plea from his cousin/father Jamie. I could definitely see Jamie making the plea, and Cerssi looking like a c*nt trying so hard to kill her brother. Perhaps just enough to give Tyrion the opportunity he needs to get away, perhaps with the secret assistance of a never forgetful Varys who may be planting the seed in young Tommens mind right after the end of the trial? | ||
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farvacola
United States18866 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24143 Posts
On June 06 2014 03:27 farvacola wrote: I doubt medical technology is at the point in Westeros where they can safely cut off only the penis; even a cauterized wound would bleed too much from hormonal impulse. The victim would have only days. So Greyworm got a phantom hard-on... That sounds like a fate worse than death. A wicked impulse to stroke it but no 'it' to stroke. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On June 06 2014 02:53 Spaylz wrote: The Mountain is alive, and Oberyn is short a head. There is no debate to be had. I don't think the mountain is necessarily alive, I think it makes more sense that they both died, but Oberyn died first which makes the mountain the winner. We actually have no confirmation if the Mountain died from his injuries or not yet. One would assume he did given he collapsed (for the second time) and wasn't moving at all after the headsmash. He was also speared through the chest after all. All we know for certain is that Oberyn's head was popped and Tywin declared Tyrion the loser. To say the mountain is 100% alive is either you giving us book information, or you valuing own speculation incredibly high. Clearly there is a debate about the mountains well-being (even if you say there isn't) unless you're a book reader, in which case, pls ban. The fact that you're adamant about the less intuitive scenario (mountain survives) leads me to believe you might be spoilering. edit; you also seem to post a lot in the spoiler thread which would indicate you do have more non-tv show information. ~_~ | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On June 06 2014 05:25 crms wrote: I don't think the mountain is necessarily alive, I think it makes more sense that they both died, but Oberyn died first which makes the mountain the winner. We actually have no confirmation if the Mountain died from his injuries or not yet. One would assume he did given he collapsed (for the second time) and wasn't moving at all after the headsmash. He was also speared through the chest after all. All we know for certain is that Oberyn's head was popped and Tywin declared Tyrion the loser. To say the mountain is 100% alive is either you giving us book information, or you valuing own speculation incredibly high. Clearly there is a debate about the mountains well-being (even if you say there isn't) unless you're a book reader, in which case, pls ban. The fact that you're adamant about the less intuitive scenario (mountain survives) leads me to believe you might be spoilering. Well, he certainly doesn't die on screen... At least, it's not clear that he does. Until the next episode tells us otherwise, I consider him as alive. Oberyn on the other hand is so clearly dead, obviously xD | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On June 06 2014 05:33 Spaylz wrote: Well, he certainly doesn't die on screen... At least, it's not clear that he does. Until the next episode tells us otherwise, I consider him as alive. Oberyn on the other hand is so clearly dead, obviously xD the very fact that we don't have explicit confirmation of him being alive or dead from his injuries means that there is debate, something you said there isn't. that's the point hehe.  | ||
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Cynry
810 Posts
On June 06 2014 05:37 crms wrote: the very fact that we don't have explicit confirmation of him being alive or dead from his injuries means that there is debate, something you said there isn't. that's the point hehe. He's probably saying there is no debate to be had about a possible draw scenario, which is true. One dude killed the other (so he was alive when doing that, obviously) and Tywin sentenced Tyrion to death. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
The "no debate" part was about Tyrion's fate. That is done as soon as Tywin sentences him. There is no ambiguity in who won the trial was my point. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16125 Posts
On June 06 2014 06:14 karazax wrote: Is it possible that Tyrion could still beg to get sent to the wall even after being found guilty? They send convicted murderers and rapists and other criminals, why not someone who is convicted by trial by combat? Otherwise, does Jaime honor his vow to leave the King's Guard and take over Casterly Rock as Tywin's heir in exchange for Tywin letting Tyrion going to the wall, if Tyrion never actually goes to the wall? Tywin specifically sentences him to be executed at the ending of the episode doesn't he? Yup. Just rewatched it, he specifically sentences him to die just before the credits roll. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
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Dunmer
United Kingdom568 Posts
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oGoZenob
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Deleted User 135096
3624 Posts
On June 06 2014 05:59 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: ooooberyyyyynn! Well, he's most certainly the litmus test that proves that of things that kill, honor is among them. I kind of hope on the outside that Tyrion can weasel himself a draw if the mountain dies, but man.... | ||
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