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On June 12 2013 04:11 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 03:33 NIIINO wrote:
How big is the world ? lets compare it to UK. It feels really small. Is it small planet or there is some kind of great sea ? I heard Westeros is suppose to be something like the size of south america. Essos is really big but we dont know how big, and theres another continent beyond that, which I dont recall the name. Ashai I think?
You can compare Essos pretty well to Asia. Shape also fits.
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On June 12 2013 06:02 sc4k wrote:
Man I just can't believe Stannis has so much devotion to his code of behaviour that he immediately ordered Davos' death, despite owing Davos the lives of his men and himself.
Davos basically committed treason.
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On June 12 2013 06:02 sc4k wrote:
Man I just can't believe Stannis has so much devotion to his code of behaviour that he immediately ordered Davos' death, despite owing Davos the lives of his men and himself.
Maybe you missed the part where Stannis has cut off his fingers for smuggling. :D
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On June 12 2013 06:17 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 06:02 sc4k wrote:
Man I just can't believe Stannis has so much devotion to his code of behaviour that he immediately ordered Davos' death, despite owing Davos the lives of his men and himself. Maybe you missed the part where Stannis has cut off his fingers for smuggling. :D
I mean I knew about that so obviously he is a stickler for the rules. But to have him KILLED is a lot different. That's cold. Poor Davos. Now he has to be thankful that the cooky lady saved him.
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On June 12 2013 02:32 OneRedBeard wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 02:21 matiK23 wrote:
I'm sorry if I'm dense but why all of a sudden does Stannis and the red hair witch? have a change of heart and instead of going for the iron throne, they want to kill the white walkers? To me it makes their whole story pointless. What am I missing here? I think you can also make out pretty well that he is not entirely comfortable with the choices he would have to make to have another shot at the throne in the near future. Stannis really wants to do what is right. He knows in his heart I think that Davos is right about taking power by ways of blood magic and fratricide, yet at this point, what can he do? His armies are all but destroyed, his enemies have just eliminated their second front, and all he has left is a rock in the narrow sea and a woman he cannot fully trust in right mind. Having a new, just and honorable cause to go after, even assured on by his two most trusted advisors, must be like christmas for the guy.
He knows davos is right, but he has SEEN the power of melisandre so he's hesitant to doubt her, maybe out of faith or maybe out of fear. Melisandre understands politics, she knows they can either use magic and trickery to slowly gain followers, or she can make stannis into a hero of the north. she also probably was told something by Ry'lorr when she was staring into the fire. Besides Stannis is a GOOD MAN, he is gullible, but he is a good man. He's not going to take things to the extreme unless its required.
On June 12 2013 06:31 sc4k wrote:
I mean I knew about that so obviously he is a stickler for the rules. But to have him KILLED is a lot different. That's cold. Poor Davos. Now he has to be thankful that the cooky lady saved him.
Davos is the only person i truly care for in the show. He's truly a man who regrets his mistakes, even though he understands that his mistakes were required of him at the time. He rarely acts out of selfishness.
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On June 12 2013 04:11 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 03:33 NIIINO wrote:
How big is the world ? lets compare it to UK. It feels really small. Is it small planet or there is some kind of great sea ? I heard Westeros is suppose to be something like the size of south america. Essos is really big but we dont know how big, and theres another continent beyond that, which I dont recall the name. Ashai I think? It seems closer to NA, both in latitude and climate (but Westeros is probably 1/4 to1/3 the width). The Wall would be somewhere in the middle of Canada. Winterfell would be around Edmonton, White Arbor could be Montreal, King's Landing is NY, Lannisport/Casterly Rock is Seattle, Highgarden is in California, and Dorne is Mexico.
Essos is basically the rest of the world if you cut out Europe and anything north of China, and what happens in the Southern Hemisphere and the Orient seems largely unknown. There's more land East of Asshai, but how much is currently unknown.
You can see a lot in the intro when Daenerys is in Qarth or Vaes Dothrak.
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On June 12 2013 07:43 Pwere wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 04:11 Dazed_Spy wrote:On June 12 2013 03:33 NIIINO wrote:
How big is the world ? lets compare it to UK. It feels really small. Is it small planet or there is some kind of great sea ? I heard Westeros is suppose to be something like the size of south america. Essos is really big but we dont know how big, and theres another continent beyond that, which I dont recall the name. Ashai I think? It seems closer to NA, both in latitude and climate (but Westeros is probably 1/4 to1/3 the width). The Wall would be somewhere in the middle of Canada. Winterfell would be around Edmonton, White Arbor could be Montreal, King's Landing is NY, Lannisport/Casterly Rock is Seattle, Highgarden is in California, and Dorne is Mexico. Essos is basically the rest of the world if you cut out Europe and anything north of China, and what happens in the Southern Hemisphere and the Orient seems largely unknown. There's more land East of Asshai, but how much is unknown.
And the west of Essos is Europe. The Andals (Europeans) came to Westeros (NA) and fought with the Children of the Forrest (Indians) until the Children were (almost) gone. Well then maybe First Men = Vikings and ofc Dothraki = Mongols
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King's Landing is obviously supposed to be London, The Wall is modelled on Hadrian's Wall, the iron islands are vikings, the andals are saxons, the valyrians are normans. I think it's more UK-like than NA. And all the northerners speak with northern England accents, and all the southerners speak with south east England accents.
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On June 12 2013 07:57 sc4k wrote:
King's Landing is obviously supposed to be London, The Wall is modelled on Hadrian's Wall, the iron islands are vikings, the andals are saxons, the valyrians are normans. I think it's more UK-like than NA. And all the northerners speak with northern England accents, and all the southerners speak with south east England accents.
I think GRRM even mentioned himself that he shaped the north like Scotland, so Westeros is essentially Great Britain, the rest is Eurasia. There is 1 image in Google Image search that shows a third, southern continent, I wonder what that is about.
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On June 12 2013 08:08 aseq wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 07:57 sc4k wrote:
King's Landing is obviously supposed to be London, The Wall is modelled on Hadrian's Wall, the iron islands are vikings, the andals are saxons, the valyrians are normans. I think it's more UK-like than NA. And all the northerners speak with northern England accents, and all the southerners speak with south east England accents. I think GRRM even mentioned himself that he shaped the north like Scotland, so Westeros is essentially Great Britain, the rest is Eurasia. There is 1 image in Google Image search that shows a third, southern continent, I wonder what that is about.
Oh yeah, and the children of the forest are clearly Gaels or some variety of celts who lived here before the Germanic tribes like the Jutes and Saxons arrived (actually way before that period) . They had a strict druid tradition and were closely connected with forests.
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Ok, so i checked carefully, and I saw NO spoilers in this map. This is a fan made map whos read the books, so it may have areas we haven't heard of yet, but nothing that will spoil anything. I myself haven't even read the books. I'll put it in spoilers just incase, I hope I am allowed to post this. This is supposedly the best speculative map of the game of thrones world.
+ Show Spoiler +
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I think this one is better if you want an accurate map. It has city names and what-not as well.
+ Show Spoiler +http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/1/10/WorldofIceandFire.png
There is an official map that came out a few months ago in a compendium book that GRRM had worked on. I'm not sure if the above is taken from it or not though. There's definitely an accurate world map in that book though.
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On June 11 2013 21:50 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 21:46 CanucksJC wrote:On June 11 2013 21:30 Reason wrote:On June 11 2013 19:27 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 11 2013 18:54 Reason wrote:
Can you explain why you feel it's important? Probably not since I don't want to get banned. Sigh. That was my point. To be quite honest I don't see why people who have read the books don't just stay the fuck out of this thread. I don't see anything wrong with what he said there, not sure why you're foaming. Because saying "XYZ is going to be important!" is a subtle spoiler?
I don't see how it is. Someone can just as easily come to the conclusion I did without reading the books just speculating on the show's use of minutes.
With everything going on, why devote so much time to the bastard's torturing of Theon? Clearly there's a reason for it. It doesn't take someone who knows what happens next to figure out that there's probably a significant reason for developing the bastard's character.
I haven't given any hint as to why it might be important and in a series like this one it's almost impossible to predict ahead of time why any particular character might be important later, just that they will be.
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On June 12 2013 08:08 aseq wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 07:57 sc4k wrote:
King's Landing is obviously supposed to be London, The Wall is modelled on Hadrian's Wall, the iron islands are vikings, the andals are saxons, the valyrians are normans. I think it's more UK-like than NA. And all the northerners speak with northern England accents, and all the southerners speak with south east England accents. I think GRRM even mentioned himself that he shaped the north like Scotland, so Westeros is essentially Great Britain, the rest is Eurasia. There is 1 image in Google Image search that shows a third, southern continent, I wonder what that is about.
Except Westeros is several times larger than Great Britain just based on how long it takes to travel from place to place.
Sure the general world is modeled after Europe and Britain, but the size of the individual landmasses is much different.
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On June 12 2013 07:57 sc4k wrote:
King's Landing is obviously supposed to be London, The Wall is modelled on Hadrian's Wall, the iron islands are vikings, the andals are saxons, the valyrians are normans. I think it's more UK-like than NA. And all the northerners speak with northern England accents, and all the southerners speak with south east England accents. Yeah, the inhabitants seem more European, but I was speaking geographically and climatically.
Except for Highgarden. That's definitely San Francisco.
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On June 12 2013 09:20 Pwere wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 07:57 sc4k wrote:
King's Landing is obviously supposed to be London, The Wall is modelled on Hadrian's Wall, the iron islands are vikings, the andals are saxons, the valyrians are normans. I think it's more UK-like than NA. And all the northerners speak with northern England accents, and all the southerners speak with south east England accents. Yeah, the inhabitants seem more European, but I was speaking geographically and climatically. Except for Highgarden. That's definitely San Francisco.
I'm fairly convinced Highgarden is modeled after Medieval France or even one of the Italian States. Just my opinion though.
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what was little finger up to during the finale?
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On June 12 2013 09:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I think this one is better if you want an accurate map. It has city names and what-not as well. + Show Spoiler +http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/1/10/WorldofIceandFire.png There is an official map that came out a few months ago in a compendium book that GRRM had worked on. I'm not sure if the above is taken from it or not though. There's definitely an accurate world map in that book though.
I unfortunately googled "Game of Thrones" map to see where everything was. The map I found had this really cool feature where you could move the time line along to see where each of the characters had been, but then I noticed the locations where they were had never been mentioned in the shows. That is when I noticed the map was for the books and that I now know where some of the major character end up at the end of Book 5.
Sigh . . . .
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On June 12 2013 09:39 albis wrote:
what was little finger up to during the finale?
Well it didn't show anything so i think we can assume... Plotting.
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On June 12 2013 09:41 McFeser wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 09:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I think this one is better if you want an accurate map. It has city names and what-not as well. + Show Spoiler +http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/1/10/WorldofIceandFire.png There is an official map that came out a few months ago in a compendium book that GRRM had worked on. I'm not sure if the above is taken from it or not though. There's definitely an accurate world map in that book though. I unfortunately googled "Game of Thrones" map to see where everything was. The map I found had this really cool feature where you could move the time line along to see where each of the characters had been, but then I noticed the locations where they were had never been mentioned in the shows. That is when I noticed the map was for the books and that I now know where some of the major character end up at the end of Book 5. Sigh . . . .
That map that you went to even has spoiler protection with 1 click (by episode), and in big words "Spoilers through:" directly above the timeline slider. Cool map overall and nice to see where different characters were in relation to each other at certain points.
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