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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On August 16 2017 01:29 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: We might not live that long to see that happen, but if it does, I'm holding you personally responsible and I will haunt you. Or your ghost. Can ghosts haunt other ghosts? What part of my prediction is displeasing to you? | ||
RvB
Netherlands6273 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On August 16 2017 01:33 RvB wrote: Your point would make more sense if the other universes weren't hyped up as stronger than U7. U7 was supposedly the weakest except for the universe with the foxes. Instead all of U7 except for Krillin is still alive while we see few character who are a threat to U7s warriors. I get that Goku, Vegeta and Gohan would stay until the end but the other fighters should at least have a lot mroe trouble than they do now. The confidence of the other universes is also nonsensical. They've already seen Goku vs Toppo and they still think they can compete while they're weak as fuck. *average* power. This is well explained by Buu destroying our Kais and Freeza making a conscious effort to limit power levels across the universe. So not only did Buu destroy a lot of worlds, but Freeza did too. Then factor in the role that kais clearly play in developing power across their universe. For Zenoh, there's no reason to add nuance to the total power of a universe. But I really think the average is important to recognize. U7 had two entities that destroyed U7's average power through suppression. Then Earth destroyed both of those things that brought the universe to its knees. Power in U7 is grossly condensed into a single planet. The fact that Goku is even able to spar with Beerus gives him extreme uniqueness, as we see in the Zamasu arc. We've always known Goku and Vegeta are distinct, even on a multi-verse level. They SHOULD be rolling through plebs. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9055 Posts
On August 16 2017 01:33 RvB wrote: Your point would make more sense if the other universes weren't hyped up as stronger than U7. U7 was supposedly the weakest except for the universe with the foxes. Instead all of U7 except for Krillin is still alive while we see few character who are a threat to U7s warriors. I get that Goku, Vegeta and Gohan would stay until the end but the other fighters should at least have a lot mroe trouble than they do now. The confidence of the other universes is also nonsensical. They've already seen Goku vs Toppo and they still think they can compete while they're weak as fuck. Pretty much this. A GT joy ride through the remaining universes? They'll just put more emphasis on Goku and bring back Omega Super Dragon Shenlong Dragon. It's like a twilight zone. The only thing I have hope for, is that the dub fixes all of this mess, somehow. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6273 Posts
On August 16 2017 01:50 Mohdoo wrote: *average* power. This is well explained by Buu destroying our Kais and Freeza making a conscious effort to limit power levels across the universe. So not only did Buu destroy a lot of worlds, but Freeza did too. Then factor in the role that kais clearly play in developing power across their universe. For Zenoh, there's no reason to add nuance to the total power of a universe. But I really think the average is important to recognize. U7 had two entities that destroyed U7's average power through suppression. Then Earth destroyed both of those things that brought the universe to its knees. Power in U7 is grossly condensed into a single planet. The fact that Goku is even able to spar with Beerus gives him extreme uniqueness, as we see in the Zamasu arc. We've always known Goku and Vegeta are distinct, even on a multi-verse level. They SHOULD be rolling through plebs. Why even mention the average power level of a universe if not to hype their strength? It was an obvious plot point to hype up the tournament. He didn't do a lot with it and that's why people are now disappointed. First you hype it as a tournament with fighters on par with eachother but when the tournament starts they turn out to be fodder. Like I said I get that Goku vegeta and Gohan are some of the strongest in all the universes but the andriods, Piccolo, master Roshi and Tien aren't even in danger at all. Even the weaker fighters in U7 don't have trouble in staying in the tournament. That's what removes a lot of the excitement and tension. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On August 16 2017 02:38 RvB wrote: Why even mention the average power level of a universe if not to hype their strength? It was an obvious plot point to hype up the tournament. He didn't do a lot with it and that's why people are now disappointed. First you hype it as a tournament with fighters on par with eachother but when the tournament starts they turn out to be fodder. Like I said I get that Goku vegeta and Gohan are some of the strongest in all the universes but the andriods, Piccolo, master Roshi and Tien aren't even in danger at all. Even the weaker fighters in U7 don't have trouble in staying in the tournament. That's what removes a lot of the excitement and tension. gotta agree with the last bit. Roshi, Tien and at least Piccolo should be having lots of trouble. At least knock out Roshi and Tien as well. Androids is debatable but they should be able to hold their own against I dunno, 70% of the fighters? Then Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and Freiza remaining till the end is not out of the question. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On August 15 2017 18:52 Shock710 wrote: I do wish they would show what the rest of the group are doing, especially considering they were trying to work out strats and whole point of picking them over goten, trunks was that they have experience in strats...which we've seen nothing of outside of the stick together...duh and even that doesnt work. Power straight up seems to be the determining factor, there have been zero successful strats by any of the unvierses. Also didnt picolo and gohan have something worked out....still havnt seen it. Ya it's kind of dumb that right now except for Krillin the solution for every U7 problem was pretty much "lets punch them really hard". | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On August 16 2017 04:09 Nakajin wrote: Ya it's kind of dumb that right now except for Krillin the solution for every U7 problem was pretty much "lets punch them really hard". I mean, how many fights were determined by who had the biggest ki blast? | ||
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I've been comparing the early tournament matches to booking pro-wrestling, when it's done right the mid card or lower card can still have awesome exciting matches telling a good story and that has been lacking in the early fights for the most part. | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
I am still hoping that Vegeta leading a U7 & U6 squad of saiyans against some other universe , reclaiming his position as prince of all saiyans in all dimensions ! that would be so epic and can you imagine a hit squad of Vegeta , Goku , Gohan , Kale , Califula and Cabba running rampant in this tournament ? now that is what I call the dream team , and it would mean so much for Vegeta's character , the prince who once lost his people leading them in the greatest fighting tournament of all time (for now). As for the dream tag team....fuck goku and hit , we better see Frieza and Frost get some action soon ! Also.....another point , if super went out of their way to create a character homage to broly, they have a huge chance to do one for cooler through frost, cooler is popular as a movie villain too , since Frieza unlocked the golden form , i'd like to see frost unlocking cooler's 5th form in this tournament , I would seriously flood this planet with jizz if it happens. Just the rambling thoughts of a fan , nothing much , DBS is awesome ! | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aCiYQVL.jpg) | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
If this is a spoiler, you are a piece of garbage. | ||
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yrba1
United States325 Posts
On August 18 2017 21:56 Tchado wrote: Alright boyz , thoughts ? Mystic Goku? | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6273 Posts
On August 19 2017 00:46 Mohdoo wrote: If this is a spoiler, you are a piece of garbage. Indeed. We've had this discussion multiple times now. If it's a spoiler just spoiler it. It's not much extra effort. | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On August 18 2017 23:40 Shock710 wrote: Looks badass, where it that from? fanart? looks like dbz goku vs frieza style. (my favorite style) My response (Legit or Fan art) + Show Spoiler + NO man !!! this is legit ! this is from an official japanese magazine , THIS IS GOKU'S NEW FORM ! not fan art. this is what we will get in the tournament of power. | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
On August 19 2017 03:46 RvB wrote: Indeed. We've had this discussion multiple times now. If it's a spoiler just spoiler it. It's not much extra effort. my bad , sorry , new to this thread  | ||
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