EPT[TV] Marvel's Daredevil on Netflix - Page 5
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Velr
Switzerland10970 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 16 2015 17:47 Velr wrote: Yeah, i actually liked how they put in the sidekicks... Way better handled/done than in Arrow, they actually seem to have "actual" own personalities and aren't just "good guys for being good guys" or "Girl sidekick for boobs". Except there is that in ep1 :D | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10970 Posts
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
On April 16 2015 14:48 Daray wrote: + Show Spoiler + You mean Wesley? Or did i miss a major character in the show :D I derped on the name, yes that's the one. | ||
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malcram
2752 Posts
 + Show Spoiler + kinda bummed about Ben Urich though | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 16 2015 21:16 malcram wrote: can't wait to see elektra + Show Spoiler + kinda bummed about Ben Urich though They mentioned her in the show | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I missed that. When did it happen in the series? | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On April 16 2015 21:52 Plansix wrote: I missed that. When did it happen in the series? When Foggy and Matt talk about his hot Greek girlfriend from college The show is full of cool easter eggs like that. | ||
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Xrero
United States120 Posts
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
On April 14 2015 05:22 Acrofales wrote: Didn't read the comics, and got up to episode 6 so far. But is Daredevil really supposed to be this blatant of a ripoff of the dark knight portrayal of Batman? Hell I joked to my girlfriend that he is more batlike than Batman with supersenses instead of sight. Anyway, many of the themes from Batman seem to play a similarly dominant role: whether killing is ever justified, what distinguishes the bad guy from the good guy, and the whole dark city theme (Gotham or Hell's Kitchen: both are portrayals of the seedy underbelly of New York). Now in Ep. 6 Fisk sets him up as the bad guy, it feels a lot like a rehash of Batman, but by Marvel instead of DC. PS. This season of Arrow apparently also ran out of inspiration and are using Batman plots there too (but in a completely retarded way). So between that and this, Gotham is actually the least batmanny of the comic book series! Yep, I liked the start but plot-wise it's turning into another Arrow (save this city, can't have friends...). I hope they keep up the choreography in the second season, Arrow went down the drain fast in that aspect. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
“I can’t be the man this city needs,” and all its variations. “We are not so different, you and I,” and all its variations. They are done, can never be used again. Writers need to find new words. PS: just to be clear, Daredevil was Batman before Batman was Batman. He is the original dark gritty street level hero. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I just couldn't buy Fisk's character. Don't get me wrong, Vincent D'Onofrio kills the role, acting is perfect there. But, we get the impression that he's this ruthless, cold, calculating dude, but the only exposure we have to him in the show is when he starts with Vanessa. And after that point, he's an emotional manchild. "You interrupted my date, I'm going to kill you!" "You talked to my mommy, I'm going to kill you!" "My girlfriend is in the hospital, I'm going to ignore everyone and everything!" "My friend is dead, I'm going to kill everyone!" It's not bad, per se, but I have trouble believing this is the guy who managed to take control of an entire city and ran an extensive criminal organization when he can't handle a single dinner date going poorly. I kept expecting Wesley or Owlsley to reveal themselves as the true brains behind the operation, because every time I saw Fisk, I didn't see someone who was capable of it. Other than that, I loved it. Casting is perfect, cinematography is top notch, probably the best choreographed fight scenes I've seen in ages, and all the dialogue felt good, very little felt forced or just for blatant exposition. Can't wait for the rest of the Defenders, or just S2 of this :D | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On April 18 2015 02:06 Requizen wrote: I'm not a comic reader, so maybe I don't know as much about it, but I had one major complaint about the season: + Show Spoiler + I just couldn't buy Fisk's character. Don't get me wrong, Vincent D'Onofrio kills the role, acting is perfect there. But, we get the impression that he's this ruthless, cold, calculating dude, but the only exposure we have to him in the show is when he starts with Vanessa. And after that point, he's an emotional manchild. "You interrupted my date, I'm going to kill you!" "You talked to my mommy, I'm going to kill you!" "My girlfriend is in the hospital, I'm going to ignore everyone and everything!" "My friend is dead, I'm going to kill everyone!" It's not bad, per se, but I have trouble believing this is the guy who managed to take control of an entire city and ran an extensive criminal organization when he can't handle a single dinner date going poorly. I kept expecting Wesley or Owlsley to reveal themselves as the true brains behind the operation, because every time I saw Fisk, I didn't see someone who was capable of it. Other than that, I loved it. Casting is perfect, cinematography is top notch, probably the best choreographed fight scenes I've seen in ages, and all the dialogue felt good, very little felt forced or just for blatant exposition. Can't wait for the rest of the Defenders, or just S2 of this :D I think they wanted to show fisk having trouble facing his past (emotionally compromised/being used to having control of his operation) I think kingpin will comeback as someone far more ruthless because now he knows that he cant operate in the dark and in the light, which is what proved to be his downfall. | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
On April 18 2015 02:06 Requizen wrote: I'm not a comic reader, so maybe I don't know as much about it, but I had one major complaint about the season: + Show Spoiler + I just couldn't buy Fisk's character. Don't get me wrong, Vincent D'Onofrio kills the role, acting is perfect there. But, we get the impression that he's this ruthless, cold, calculating dude, but the only exposure we have to him in the show is when he starts with Vanessa. And after that point, he's an emotional manchild. "You interrupted my date, I'm going to kill you!" "You talked to my mommy, I'm going to kill you!" "My girlfriend is in the hospital, I'm going to ignore everyone and everything!" "My friend is dead, I'm going to kill everyone!" It's not bad, per se, but I have trouble believing this is the guy who managed to take control of an entire city and ran an extensive criminal organization when he can't handle a single dinner date going poorly. I kept expecting Wesley or Owlsley to reveal themselves as the true brains behind the operation, because every time I saw Fisk, I didn't see someone who was capable of it. Other than that, I loved it. Casting is perfect, cinematography is top notch, probably the best choreographed fight scenes I've seen in ages, and all the dialogue felt good, very little felt forced or just for blatant exposition. Can't wait for the rest of the Defenders, or just S2 of this :D I disagree with your perception. I think early on when Fisk + Show Spoiler + takes that dude's head off we are meant to see that Fisk is only cool on the surface. His rage/temper is an integral part of his character from the beginning. It is very possible to be a mastermind and also have a temper problem. Also not a comic book reader but that is my take. I did think they needed to spend more time on the relationship between Fisk and Vanessa. It was a bit unconvincing to me. She quickly sold into the idea of his operations without any explanation of why. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
hockey stick in lieu of the bat he briefly wields. Good reference, and the character himself, was punny one offs anyway and said, "We are lawyers," more times than I cared to count in just 13 episodes + Show Spoiler + I know the Daredevil is not likely high up on most comic readers's lists as tip top favorite super heroes, but I think the series on the whole did a good job pulling away from the 2003 Affleck interpretation, and really cleansing the palate of what was in my opinion an attempt too early done, and too bloated for a character not beloved enough to succeed in the Marvel universe. 2003 Daredevil was almost Spiderman 3 but done 4 years earlier and without the stuff that people loved about the books, namely that if you asked someone who Spidey was, they would actually know. The thing about this show that I am still on the fence about is the combat. Not the choreography or any of that, but what are we as the audience supposed to assume about Murdock's actual abilities? On the one hand, he can take on Stick and Nobu with a great amount of effort, on the other Fisk, who is only shown to be a Zangeif like fighter some way into the series, it seems like they had to do something like that to make the inevitable 1v1 viable when they've set a reasonably high bar for competition. That kind of bothered me though not to the point of not enjoying the series so far. I also liked that fatigue actually seemed to factor in some (there are obvious asterisks), and they stuck with the fact that Murdocks are really good at getting the shit beat out of them. It wasn't the Batman stumble forward, or Spidey taking a manhole cover to the face, then he's back at 100% that is so common these day. Final point, I think casting Vincent D'Onofrio as Fisk was a spot of brilliance and gives me a great deal of hope that they will be able to attract solid, reputable actors for next season. Please god, just let them stop having people speak Chinese, I studied it for 5+ years and lived there, it pained me every time he stuttered a sentence. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
But now, I am sort of sad. There seems to be no hint whatsoever regarding a second season. But on the other hand, I feel like they set up so much? I don't know the story of Daredevil (never read the comics, might now), but there were obvious scenes which pertained to other characters. The entire Stick arc, for one, and also the Chinese old lady. And they really nailed the cast. Cox is perfect as Daredevil, he just IS the part. I agree about D'Onofrio too. I really want more  Someone on the inside tell me there is more! There will be more, I know it! Right? ...Right?? | ||
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Wolfstan
Canada605 Posts
The identity scenes could easily be swapped for your stereotypical hero. Revealing himself to Vanessa, Matt meeting Vanessa, Vanessa getting hurt, hiding of his mother, Chinese lady finding where he lives because he's sloppy all parallel the powerful moments heroes have to endure. I just cant say enough how well the script portrayed Kingpin. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On April 20 2015 07:19 Spaylz wrote: Just binged on this, and I thought it was great. Amazing, even. Really solid show. But now, I am sort of sad. There seems to be no hint whatsoever regarding a second season. But on the other hand, I feel like they set up so much? I don't know the story of Daredevil (never read the comics, might now), but there were obvious scenes which pertained to other characters. The entire Stick arc, for one, and also the Chinese old lady. And they really nailed the cast. Cox is perfect as Daredevil, he just IS the part. I agree about D'Onofrio too. I really want more Someone on the inside tell me there is more! There will be more, I know it! Right? ...Right?? All Netflix series renewals depend on the viewership numbers, but based on the success so far I would be shocked if there isn't more seasons. You don't pay for the rights to Daredevil and only do one season unless it tanks. That being said there hasn't been any official renewal announcement yet. Perhaps they want all 4 shows out before they start thinking season 2, but I would think the need to lock up actors would require making a decision in a timely manner. | ||
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
On April 20 2015 13:22 karazax wrote: All Netflix series renewals depend on the viewership numbers, but based on the success so far I would be shocked if there isn't more seasons. You don't pay for the rights to Daredevil and only do one season unless it tanks. That being said there hasn't been any official renewal announcement yet. Perhaps they want all 4 shows out before they start thinking season 2, but I would think the need to lock up actors would require making a decision in a timely manner. Pretty sure there is already a movie in the works? I would be surprised if there wasn't a second season, the rave reviews are gonna help for sure. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
About this season: + Show Spoiler + The one thing I disliked about the story is that, in my opinion, Wesley's death was extremely silly. I was genuinely shocked when she fired the gun and it was actually loaded. That is honestly such a gross oversight and major mistake to make. Doesn't feel like something Wesley would do, so it felt very odd to me. | ||
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