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On April 20 2015 16:04 Spaylz wrote:That is my hope. I can't imagine they wouldn't want to keep going, given how well the show has been received. About this season: + Show Spoiler +The one thing I disliked about the story is that, in my opinion, Wesley's death was extremely silly. I was genuinely shocked when she fired the gun and it was actually loaded. That is honestly such a gross oversight and major mistake to make. Doesn't feel like something Wesley would do, so it felt very odd to me.
+ Show Spoiler +Wesley was planning to kill her, so that is why it was loaded. Also he underestimated her due to his own lack of experience in doing these kind of things directly. He is a glorified secretary for Fisk, not a hardcore criminal
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DD is already tied into MCU. In the show they mention the alien attack on NYC and they mention an ironsuit and a magical hammer.
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On April 20 2015 21:21 -Archangel- wrote:DD is already tied into MCU. In the show they mention the alien attack on NYC and they mention an ironsuit and a magical hammer.
More accurately put, crossing major heroes over into the Daredevil off chute then, I wasn't always sober, or paying 100% attention over the binge, must have missed that.
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On April 20 2015 21:26 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:21 -Archangel- wrote:DD is already tied into MCU. In the show they mention the alien attack on NYC and they mention an ironsuit and a magical hammer. More accurately put, crossing major heroes over into the Daredevil off chute then, I wasn't always sober, or paying 100% attention over the binge, must have missed that.
Daredevil is a major hero as far as popularity goes. But if you mean by their power compared to others in that world he is not and he does not need any of those in DD show because it will become just as silly as Arrow/Flash and the rest.
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On April 20 2015 21:28 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 21:26 ThomasjServo wrote:On April 20 2015 21:21 -Archangel- wrote:DD is already tied into MCU. In the show they mention the alien attack on NYC and they mention an ironsuit and a magical hammer. More accurately put, crossing major heroes over into the Daredevil off chute then, I wasn't always sober, or paying 100% attention over the binge, must have missed that. Daredevil is a major hero as far as popularity goes. But if you mean by their power compared to others in that world he is not and he does not need any of those in DD show because it will become just as silly as Arrow/Flash and the rest.
I would argue that Daredevil is a comparatively minor superhero, by all accounts. Power, stated scope of purpose. I mean Hells Kitchen now, is a pretty poor setting to try and improve. West Manhattan isn't exactly what it used to be in terms of New York Slums now, which is something that isn't exactly touched upon given the modern setting.
On a good day DD, is a Code A for popular super heroes, above Dazzler, on par with Dr. Strange depending on which MCU came out that Summer. If you read or even dabble in comics sure you know who he is, but I would say most people today know him because of the Affleck movie than Miller's Daredevil or more popular Trade Paperbacks.
I agree they are running the risk of Flashing/Arrowing the series by involving other heroes directly into DD's microverse of NYC, but at least they have the advantage of not being on the CW. Your location says Croatia, so if you didn't know that network has a reputation for being kind of mushy, recycling actors, and being rather lazy at times. Lets put it this way its great if you want to watch pretty people and high levels of sexual tension, I personally think DC made a mistake putting both shows on the CW.
It'll be interesting regardless next season, as I believe this is the first cross over between a hero with an existing movie franchise, and even more interesting that they aren't involving Peter Parker as Spiderman.
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Spiderman and Daredevil have run around together before and their cross over makes the most sense. A lot of Spiderman villains are just normal people with a suit/trick that they can do and that is about it. The Kingpin is also a Spiderman villain and they run into each other a lot.
Edit: in the new Marvel timeline releasing soon they are going to have Peter Parker as married with a daughter Spiderman and Miles as Teenage Spiderman. The best of both worlds.
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On April 20 2015 21:55 Plansix wrote:
Spiderman and Daredevil have run around together before and their cross over makes the most sense. A lot of Spiderman villains are just normal people with a suit/trick that they can do and that is about it. The Kingpin is also a Spiderman villain and they run into each other a lot.
Edit: in the new Marvel timeline releasing soon they are going to have Peter Parker as married with a daughter Spiderman and Miles as Teenage Spiderman. The best of both worlds.
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They had some options for sure. Spidey is probably the best considering. The Avengers feels like the flagship title at this point and time, you can't spoil Strange before Cumberbatch touches it, and The F4 are a bit goofy/not dark enough; they are still rocking those white punisher boots.
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I started watching it a second time and I wonder something, who is the lady his dad calls before the fight that gets him killed? I assume is his mother but since apparently he grew up in an orphanage and not with his mom, either she's a terrible parent or it was someone who took care of him without making themselves present. Not a big comic book reader so wonder if one of you guys know who that was and why we never really see them.
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On April 20 2015 17:55 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 16:04 Spaylz wrote:That is my hope. I can't imagine they wouldn't want to keep going, given how well the show has been received. About this season: + Show Spoiler +The one thing I disliked about the story is that, in my opinion, Wesley's death was extremely silly. I was genuinely shocked when she fired the gun and it was actually loaded. That is honestly such a gross oversight and major mistake to make. Doesn't feel like something Wesley would do, so it felt very odd to me. + Show Spoiler +Wesley was planning to kill her, so that is why it was loaded. Also he underestimated her due to his own lack of experience in doing these kind of things directly. He is a glorified secretary for Fisk, not a hardcore criminal
+ Show Spoiler +Something I think i might have missed while watching, she asked "you think i've never fired a gun before?," then shot pretty calmly and accurately, and even wiped prints off. I assumed it was just bravado, but then very shortly after they had a scene where she was with urich, and they kept mentioning something in her past that he found "almost immediately" which altered his perspective on her or something.
Does she have some shady past which we don't really know about yet, or am i just misremembering/misinterpreting?
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+ Show Spoiler + There are constant hints about her shady past during the enitre season.
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On April 21 2015 02:50 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2015 17:55 -Archangel- wrote:On April 20 2015 16:04 Spaylz wrote:That is my hope. I can't imagine they wouldn't want to keep going, given how well the show has been received. About this season: + Show Spoiler +The one thing I disliked about the story is that, in my opinion, Wesley's death was extremely silly. I was genuinely shocked when she fired the gun and it was actually loaded. That is honestly such a gross oversight and major mistake to make. Doesn't feel like something Wesley would do, so it felt very odd to me. + Show Spoiler +Wesley was planning to kill her, so that is why it was loaded. Also he underestimated her due to his own lack of experience in doing these kind of things directly. He is a glorified secretary for Fisk, not a hardcore criminal + Show Spoiler +Something I think i might have missed while watching, she asked "you think i've never fired a gun before?," then shot pretty calmly and accurately, and even wiped prints off. I assumed it was just bravado, but then very shortly after they had a scene where she was with urich, and they kept mentioning something in her past that he found "almost immediately" which altered his perspective on her or something.
Does she have some shady past which we don't really know about yet, or am i just misremembering/misinterpreting?
Re: Westly and Karin episode 11
+ Show Spoiler +I thought that was one of the better moments. No stereotypical Daredevil has to save her scenario. No Karin stealing the gun and then foolishly losing control of it some how. Westley was careless and he died. Considering that's something she didn't share with anyone else despite the fact that she was kidnapped and completely in her rights to do what she did, and the fact that there were no repercussions so far, means it no doubt will be a story line that continues next season.
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On April 21 2015 02:43 TanKLoveR wrote:
I started watching it a second time and I wonder something, who is the lady his dad calls before the fight that gets him killed? I assume is his mother but since apparently he grew up in an orphanage and not with his mom, either she's a terrible parent or it was someone who took care of him without making themselves present. Not a big comic book reader so wonder if one of you guys know who that was and why we never really see them.
Didn't he just call his bookie?
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On April 21 2015 05:42 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2015 02:43 TanKLoveR wrote:
I started watching it a second time and I wonder something, who is the lady his dad calls before the fight that gets him killed? I assume is his mother but since apparently he grew up in an orphanage and not with his mom, either she's a terrible parent or it was someone who took care of him without making themselves present. Not a big comic book reader so wonder if one of you guys know who that was and why we never really see them. Didn't he just call his bookie?
He called his bookie, but he also called presumably Matt's mother. He said that he would need her more than ever, ect. It sounded like he was leaving a message. No explanation on what her response was, but either she refused, or passed away/lost custody sometime in between his dad's death and his time in the orphanage.
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YES! He called her after he called his bookie, he left a message pretty much asking her to take care of him because he wasn't going to be able to do so any more. It kinda bothers me that they never really mentioned what happened with that at any point in the show, but hey maybe I missed something or you guys know something from the comic books. He also never mentions his mother, either she never was a part of his life or she was really terrible.
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I watched the show over a week or so, I enjoyed it a fair bit and found it very compelling. I guess these are kind of spoilery so I'm throwing them in tags.
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Like many of you, I don't really have any deal-breaking complaints, but a few things in the show kinda felt rushed or just left to one side in ways that I don't really respond to well. Some people don't mind things such as the mysterious guy Stick talked to, but for me, it almost feels like it was just shoved in there and left. It's obviously going to come back later, but now I know how those who didn't know Thanos felt. Another one was Gao saying she's from really far away. A subtle hint that I'm sure is great for those in the know, but for the rest of us, is just kind of left hanging without any real intrigue. A third is Black Sky. That kid was a black sky. It happened, it was completely forgotten.
Other things, the fact that Claire is barely around after a certain point was weird to me. They just got the chemistry really going and then she doesn't show up for a while. That seemed to happen with a lot of characters I liked a lot, they felt underused in many ways. This sort of removed some of the depth for me. Instead of a big complex web of characters, it was really just a few. Then other things got cleared up really quickly. The Russians, Japanese and the Heroin ring all just dissolve almost immediately when the time comes.
I wasn't a huge fan of the random language usage in the middle few eps either. Having Karen speaking all that Spanish from "high school" and then the scenes in Mandarin were just kind of awkward for me, especially after we knew Gao spoke English. From an acting perspective, it's better to have everything in English for the audience and the actors. Also having Fisk know Mandarin and Japanese without any real explanation, I would like to know more about him in that sense.
Finally in the niggles front, I still don't really know what Fisk's goal/endgame/plan even really was. Russians were distributing the Chinese Heroin and the Japanese had something with houses. Like I don't know what his business was or what his goals were. When he came out in public he was just called a philanthropist. I mean really, I don't know what Fisk was gaining from working with those people and what he was working towards. Was he just planning to "take over" Hell's Kitchen in a generic way or what? What was he doing?
Anyway, I loved Leland in the show. Great character acted wonderfully. A catty old accountant is something I apparently always wanted to see.
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Liked the series a lot.
I'd really like to see Punisher come into play in a possible next season, as he is somewhat of an antithesis to Daredevil (DD wants to bring villains before the law, Punisher punishes them himself).
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On April 21 2015 08:30 Flicky wrote:I watched the show over a week or so, I enjoyed it a fair bit and found it very compelling. I guess these are kind of spoilery so I'm throwing them in tags. + Show Spoiler +
Like many of you, I don't really have any deal-breaking complaints, but a few things in the show kinda felt rushed or just left to one side in ways that I don't really respond to well. Some people don't mind things such as the mysterious guy Stick talked to, but for me, it almost feels like it was just shoved in there and left. It's obviously going to come back later, but now I know how those who didn't know Thanos felt. Another one was Gao saying she's from really far away. A subtle hint that I'm sure is great for those in the know, but for the rest of us, is just kind of left hanging without any real intrigue. A third is Black Sky. That kid was a black sky. It happened, it was completely forgotten.
Other things, the fact that Claire is barely around after a certain point was weird to me. They just got the chemistry really going and then she doesn't show up for a while. That seemed to happen with a lot of characters I liked a lot, they felt underused in many ways. This sort of removed some of the depth for me. Instead of a big complex web of characters, it was really just a few. Then other things got cleared up really quickly. The Russians, Japanese and the Heroin ring all just dissolve almost immediately when the time comes.
I wasn't a huge fan of the random language usage in the middle few eps either. Having Karen speaking all that Spanish from "high school" and then the scenes in Mandarin were just kind of awkward for me, especially after we knew Gao spoke English. From an acting perspective, it's better to have everything in English for the audience and the actors. Also having Fisk know Mandarin and Japanese without any real explanation, I would like to know more about him in that sense.
Finally in the niggles front, I still don't really know what Fisk's goal/endgame/plan even really was. Russians were distributing the Chinese Heroin and the Japanese had something with houses. Like I don't know what his business was or what his goals were. When he came out in public he was just called a philanthropist. I mean really, I don't know what Fisk was gaining from working with those people and what he was working towards. Was he just planning to "take over" Hell's Kitchen in a generic way or what? What was he doing?
Anyway, I loved Leland in the show. Great character acted wonderfully. A catty old accountant is something I apparently always wanted to see.
That Chinese was painful.
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http://marvel.com/news/tv/24478/netflix_orders_a_second_season_of_marvels_daredevil
+ Show Spoiler [Article] +NETFLIX ORDERS A SECOND SEASON OF 'MARVEL'S DAREDEVIL'
The Man Without Fear's adventures will continue in another season of 'Marvel's Daredevil,' coming only to Netflix in 2016!
Marvel and Netflix are proud to announce that "Marvel's Daredevil" will receive a second season, available only on the streaming service in 2016!
With the first season of "Marvel's Daredevil" proving a smash success with both audiences and critics, Netflix and Marvel will continue to create further adventures of the Man Without Fear! Doug Petrie ("Buffy the Vampire Slayer," "American Horror Story") and Marco Ramirez ("Sons of Anarchy"), who worked closely with Executive Producers Steven S. DeKnight and Drew Goddard during the first season, will serve as showrunners for Season 2. Petrie, Ramirez, Goddard ("Cabin in the Woods"), and Jeph Loeb ("Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.") will serve as Executive Producers of Season 2.
“While previous commitments unfortunately prevent me from continuing on with Daredevil into its second season," DeKnight explains, "I could not be happier that Doug Petrie and Marco Ramirez are carrying the torch. They were invaluable collaborators during our first season, and I for one can't wait to see what they do with the show moving forward."
"Marvel's Daredevil" is produced by Marvel Television in association with ABC Studios for Netflix.
"Marvel's A.K.A. Jessica Jones" comes only to Netflix later this year and "Marvel's Luke Cage" premieres on the streaming service in 2016. Future series exclusively debuting on Netflix include “Marvel’s Iron Fist” and “Marvel’s Defenders,” a mini-series event that reimagines a team of self-sacrificing, heroic characters.
Blinded as a young boy but imbued with extraordinary senses, Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) fights against injustice by day as a lawyer, and by night as the Super Hero “Daredevil” in modern day Hell's Kitchen, New York City. "Marvel's Daredevil" stars Charlie Cox, Rosario Dawson, Vincent D’Onofrio, Deborah Ann Woll, Elden Henson, Scott Glenn, Bob Gunton, Toby Leonard Moore, Vondie Curtis Hall, Ayelet Zurer.
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