I thought it was ok. It didn't seem that different to season 1 to be honest, and the characters are becoming a little stale imo. The same pacing issues were there as usual, but for some reason i noticed them much more this time. I think i preferred that latest seasons of Luke Cage and Iron Fist to be honest. The fighting in Daredevil is still brilliant though.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

October 22 2018 13:46 GMT

#324

This season was fun once Matt got over himself and decided to work with people. I think the series is at its best when it’s Matt and the gang trying to fight corruption through the system, rather than the internal conflicts of catholic batman. The part were Matt tells off a corrupt FBI agent reminded me why I liked that character.

The fights were fun too. They had a good time with the new villain this seasons and it is nice that Fisk is still physically intimidating, even if he can't beat DD in a straight fight.

Manit0u

Poland17440 Posts

October 22 2018 18:35 GMT

#325

Well, this season was more disappointing than I hoped. It wasn't super bad but huge chunks of it were just plain boring. The worst character was actually Daredevil, who for the most part was just a brooding emo and a dick to everyone. Villains got some good exposition and I liked the deep dive into Karen's past.

Still, my list of top 3 Netflix Marvel series remains unchanged:

1. Punisher
2. Luke Cage, season 2
3. Jessica Jones, season 1 (still can't get through season 2)

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9727 Posts

October 23 2018 14:43 GMT

#326

On October 23 2018 03:35 Manit0u wrote:
Well, this season was more disappointing than I hoped. It wasn't super bad but huge chunks of it were just plain boring. The worst character was actually Daredevil, who for the most part was just a brooding emo and a dick to everyone. Villains got some good exposition and I liked the deep dive into Karen's past.

Still, my list of top 3 Netflix Marvel series remains unchanged:

1. Punisher
2. Luke Cage, season 2
3. Jessica Jones, season 1 (still can't get through season 2)

JJ season 2 was terrible. I think it goes to show how much season 1 benefited from David Tenant.
I think this top 3 is the same as mine, although JJ season 1 would probably be at the top.

Velr

Switzerland10811 Posts

October 24 2018 05:50 GMT

#327

Is Luke Cage 2 much better than 1? I really didn't like s1, especially towards the end.

Jockmcplop

United Kingdom9727 Posts

October 24 2018 07:07 GMT

#328

On October 24 2018 14:50 Velr wrote:
Is Luke Cage 2 much better than 1? I really didn't like s1, especially towards the end.

Yeah season 2 is way better. It has good antagonists and some decent fight scenes, and they use the world from season 1 to create a more complex situation.

Manit0u

Poland17440 Posts

October 24 2018 22:20 GMT

#329

On October 24 2018 16:07 Jockmcplop wrote:

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Yeah season 2 is way better. It has good antagonists and some decent fight scenes, and they use the world from season 1 to create a more complex situation.

To be honest, LC season 1 was fine as long as they kept the Diamondback character this menacing, mysterious threat that was never visualized. Cottonmouth was pretty epic as far as bad guys go (not really fitting the superhero movie villain theme but the character was great) but then they introduce the actual Diamondback who is just a disappointment. Season 2 is a whole different story altogether, where you have an antagonist who can fight protagonist 1-on-1 (really hard to do with Luke Cage since he's pretty damn high on the power scale for superheroes) and is also a fully realized and likeable character with great background, motivations etc.

Ansinjunger

United States2451 Posts

October 25 2018 06:11 GMT

#330

*Spoilers*

I don't get geek chills when Dex tosses scissors into Matt's shoulder, with Matt grappling him from behind, or when he throws pencils through cubicle walls. Nevermind his super-aim...he can have it, but that's not how objects work. I think it may please comic book fans to see Bulleye's feats, but it took me out of it.

I think Marvel and others are in a hard place between wanting Batman Begins' Tumbler and 1989 Batman's Batmobile, as far as realism vs comic book logic. I wonder if the rather upbeat ending to season 3 is sending the show in a lighter direction, and Bulleye's superpower won't seem as outlandish.

Matt made peace with his mother and the gang is back together, now with no awkward love triangle thanks to Marcy. I don't think they're gonna do an "every other season it's Fisk" thing, or at least they shouldn't. If the show goes several more seasons, obviously he has to return once, but maybe only once.

That's mainly because "Fisk always wins" and they can't retread the same arguments between characters, at least not concerning Fisk. It is already threatening to become repetitive.

Some notes:
*Karen meeting Fisk was awesome--very Fingolfin vs Morgoth.
*Later episodes did not muck up the pacing. The episode "Karen" certainly could have but it had a lot besides the backstory, which was pretty good anyway.
*Matt should have and generally did kick Dex's ass in close range. The suit was pretty convenient for keeping Dex in the fight.
*I love that we now know when the hallway fight scene is beginning. In any case, it was good.
*I was shocked but also laughed at Nadeem's boss being under Fisk's thumb. His sudden control of this FBI team didn't really wash. At some point enough people should be pissed at Fisk that they gang up on him, rather than dozens and dozens of people living under constant death threats to family members.
*Similarly, the people in the church could have surrounded Dex and helped Matt bring him down, but I'm sure Bulleye'd take them all out with splinters from busted pews /eyeroll.
* Don't get me wrong, season 3 was awesome.

Bigtony

United States1606 Posts

October 28 2018 04:24 GMT

#331

Interesting to see the love for Luke Cage season 2 over this...it was good but dragged 2-3 episodes too long. I did not get that feeling with DD3 at all, maybe could have cut a little bit to reduce by 1 episode but not by much. The "controlling the grand jury" in like a 30 minute window, fisk controls the whole fbi, and Dex killing people with pencils were my major complaints.

Mun_Su

France2063 Posts

October 28 2018 10:39 GMT

#332

I personnaly can't stand at JJ, LC or Iron Fist. Really bad writing imo. But daredevil is really good, Punisher too.

iamthedave

England2814 Posts

October 28 2018 12:09 GMT

#333

Seems proof positive to me that they made a good brace of shows that are very different from one another. I find it unfathomable that people can't see how good JJ s 1 and Daredevil s 1 are, but I know a few who think Luke Cage is the best. And none who think Iron Fist is good, though I like some elements of the first season (Harold Meachum was great, and Ward's one of the most interesting supporting characters across all the series' IMO, once the actor gets to show how completely he's been mentally destroyed by his father; honestly Iron Fist's supporting cast is almost always good. Just Finn's a bit rubbish and it darkens everything).

Looks like they're heading off to Disney's service next year, with everything getting cancelled but promising returns anyway. And why not? There's nothing else out there scratching the itch save the CW's shows, which are all just kind of blandly good (mostly Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow). The Marvel shows are the ones really trying to push the boat a bit.

Long may they reign.

-Archangel-

Croatia7457 Posts

October 29 2018 13:24 GMT

#334

I really enjoyed DD Season 3, this is now the best hero season on Netflix for me.

For me DD show blows other 3 shows completely out of the water, it is not even close.

And Iron Fist is the worst for me as well (and I like Iron Fist in comics, they just fracked up big time with the show in many possible ways).

Hopefully DD season 4 we get full time Bullseye and more good acting.

Wilson Fisk actor deserves to be moved to MCU or at least some TV show rewards.

iamthedave

England2814 Posts

October 29 2018 20:10 GMT

#335

On October 29 2018 22:24 -Archangel- wrote:
I really enjoyed DD Season 3, this is now the best hero season on Netflix for me.

For me DD show blows other 3 shows completely out of the water, it is not even close.

And Iron Fist is the worst for me as well (and I like Iron Fist in comics, they just fracked up big time with the show in many possible ways).

Hopefully DD season 4 we get full time Bullseye and more good acting.

Wilson Fisk actor deserves to be moved to MCU or at least some TV show rewards.

I think it's quite likely D'Onofrio will play the role as long as they want him. He seems to love it and it's raised his visibility enormously.