Season 2 started well, Punisher made it really dark and great, you cheered for him. Then came the ninjas and the DD just to drag the entire season down to a mere 2/10. It seems DD can't do ANYTHING that makes you happy in the slightest. He seems to always be a fun killing character with his dilemma of just about everything. Also the last episode, I had to watch it in 3 sessions, and Dark Sky dying like that, who didn't see that coming? It made me want to delete netflix if possible (using mothers account). I would never ever have watched this shitshow if it weren't for netflix. Sorry for the rant, but such a disappointing ending.
The fighting scenes Not bad compared to other shows, but I watched Ip Man 3 recently so no, it sucked donkey balls.
Season 2 started well, Punisher made it really dark and great, you cheered for him. Then came the ninjas and the DD just to drag the entire season down to a mere 2/10. It seems DD can't do ANYTHING that makes you happy in the slightest. He seems to always be a fun killing character with his dilemma of just about everything. Also the last episode, I had to watch it in 3 sessions, and Dark Sky dying like that, who didn't see that coming? It made me want to delete netflix if possible (using mothers account). I would never ever have watched this shitshow if it weren't for netflix. Sorry for the rant, but such a disappointing ending.
The fighting scenes Not bad compared to other shows, but I watched Ip Man 3 recently so no, it sucked donkey balls.
It seems shows like Arrow and Flash are perfect for you if you don't like drama in DD.
As for fighting and other complaints, you killed your opinion by using IM3 as any merit of anything.
Matt gets mad and kicks Elektra out when she kills the guy who was literally an inch away from fucking killing his ass. It was self defense straight up and he says "it's not that simple." WHAT THE FUCK??
The middle episodes shook my faith a little bit but it turned around.
surprised a lot of ppl liked s2 more than s1. s2 felt way more cliche and the characterization felt flat, rushed or even just skipped at some points (except for almost all things punisher which were awesome)
while i didnt like s2 nearly as much as s1 it was still strong and cant wait for s3
On March 30 2016 11:31 Liquid`Zephyr wrote: surprised a lot of ppl liked s2 more than s1. s2 felt way more cliche and the characterization felt flat, rushed or even just skipped at some points (except for almost all things punisher which were awesome)
while i didnt like s2 nearly as much as s1 it was still strong and cant wait for s3
S2 had better fights on average (only vs Nobu fight in S1 was better than S2 counterparts) and it had Punisher. But it didn't have a strong villain like Kingpin (and as good actor).
Season 2 set up the Kingpin's return. I was kind of worried after season 1, when he sent Kingpin away that he might be done with the show perhaps permanently, but that is obviously not the case. I expect him to get out of jail sooner rather than later. Also expect Bullseye to show up soon, and Punisher to either get his own show or make more large cameos in the other Netflix marvel shows. Not having his own show seems like a huge opportunity to miss out on though.
While I think the Kingpin is very impressive I do wonder where he gets all this "power" apart from...money(which I thought he lost a significant part of in s1).
On March 30 2016 23:44 Kipsate wrote: While I think the Kingpin is very impressive I do wonder where he gets all this "power" apart from...money(which I thought he lost a significant part of in s1).
He is very smart and knows how to manipulate people desires. It was explained in season 1.
On March 30 2016 23:44 Kipsate wrote: While I think the Kingpin is very impressive I do wonder where he gets all this "power" apart from...money(which I thought he lost a significant part of in s1).
He is very smart and knows how to manipulate people desires. It was explained in season 1.
He built up connections and money over a long period of time. Even in prison people know who he is and respect him. They know he will get out eventually and they do not want to fuck with him after he kills the other boss in the prison.
Season 2 started well, Punisher made it really dark and great, you cheered for him. Then came the ninjas and the DD just to drag the entire season down to a mere 2/10. It seems DD can't do ANYTHING that makes you happy in the slightest. He seems to always be a fun killing character with his dilemma of just about everything. Also the last episode, I had to watch it in 3 sessions, and Dark Sky dying like that, who didn't see that coming? It made me want to delete netflix if possible (using mothers account). I would never ever have watched this shitshow if it weren't for netflix. Sorry for the rant, but such a disappointing ending.
The fighting scenes Not bad compared to other shows, but I watched Ip Man 3 recently so no, it sucked donkey balls.
It seems shows like Arrow and Flash are perfect for you if you don't like drama in DD.
As for fighting and other complaints, you killed your opinion by using IM3 as any merit of anything.
Yes Flash is alright, haven't seen S2 though. Are you slaughtering IM3 in terms of not being realistic, or something else?
Flash and Arrow are a bit...childish if u say so, I've stopped to watch both after Daredevil
even tho DD is annoying sometimes, that doesnt matter since Punisher saved this season alone probably
DD is more realistic, I can't name a legit nemesis or a symbol of "real evil". Kingpin wasn't a bad guy u were hoping to die in weird fasion (not even close to Joffrey or Governor), he had his own ideas, life and everything was interesting about his history, those comparisons between the punisher and dd (their styles of dealing with criminals).
overall this series more like grey, and I like it, there is no evil or good, just different points of view, some of them way more common, some of them not, just like IRL
I was rly biased about this show, at the beginning, but luckily I've started season1 just before s2 arrived, went through both pretty fast and felt that this is what I was looking in TV series for a long time (as well that helped me to survive till GoT :D)
Season 2 started well, Punisher made it really dark and great, you cheered for him. Then came the ninjas and the DD just to drag the entire season down to a mere 2/10. It seems DD can't do ANYTHING that makes you happy in the slightest. He seems to always be a fun killing character with his dilemma of just about everything. Also the last episode, I had to watch it in 3 sessions, and Dark Sky dying like that, who didn't see that coming? It made me want to delete netflix if possible (using mothers account). I would never ever have watched this shitshow if it weren't for netflix. Sorry for the rant, but such a disappointing ending.
The fighting scenes Not bad compared to other shows, but I watched Ip Man 3 recently so no, it sucked donkey balls.
It seems shows like Arrow and Flash are perfect for you if you don't like drama in DD.
As for fighting and other complaints, you killed your opinion by using IM3 as any merit of anything.
Yes Flash is alright, haven't seen S2 though. Are you slaughtering IM3 in terms of not being realistic, or something else?
IM3 is terrible all over and it certainly didn't have good fighting scenes unless you call too much CGI as good fighting.
Hrm. Not a fan of this season at all, although it started off really well. The major flaws are that: + Show Spoiler +
It tries to tell two stories in one season, and ends up failing at both. The introduction of Elektra and the Hand is uninteresting, and worse, detracts from the Punisher (and later Blacksmith) storyline. If these two stories had anything at all to do with each other, it would be better, but they don't. The two stories are kept completely separate, and Matt juggling between the two is neither believable, nor interesting.
The Hand, and Elektra being the Black Sky is both uninteresting and badly introduced. Why is there a giant hole in the ground? Nobody knows. Why are they draining those kids' blood? Nobody knows. What happens to them after they are taken from hospital and killed? Nobody knows (unless that girl in the wig at the end was supposed to be one of them). What is that ancient dagger stick gives his two henchmen before Elektra kills them? Nobody knows. And none of that is at all relevant to the plot, so why even bother? So much time was wasted on irrelevant details, when insofar as the Hand in S2 was concerned, they are a secret band of ninjas (as if that isn't lame enough without all the supernatural mumbo jumbo) who are looking for something called "Black Sky". As for the idea that Nobu knows Black Sky is a female warrior prodigy who he tracked to Hell's Kitchen, but takes until episode 12 to figure out it's Elektra? Why? And what makes this all worse is that both Elektra and her interactions with DD are just flat.
The Blacksmith. Wtf is up with that? Very rushed and completely unbelievable in the way it was introduced. Detracted from the otherwise awesome plotline that was The Punisher.
Matt's treatment of the Punisher case, and Foggy in general. We just have to accept that Elektra turns up in HK and Matt drops literally everything else to help her do *whatever*, when the series had just spent all the previous episodes on building up the DD-Punisher dynamic, and Matt had passionately argued to take the Punisher case himself. He then throws it all in Foggy's lap because "mystery client".
No reason to drop DD, just add Punisher series which is some what likely since he is definitely going to reappear in some form in the future in some show after finding the Micro disk and leaving him out of jail and on the loose. His story isn't done.
On April 02 2016 20:52 Acrofales wrote: Hrm. Not a fan of this season at all, although it started off really well. The major flaws are that: + Show Spoiler +
It tries to tell two stories in one season, and ends up failing at both. The introduction of Elektra and the Hand is uninteresting, and worse, detracts from the Punisher (and later Blacksmith) storyline. If these two stories had anything at all to do with each other, it would be better, but they don't. The two stories are kept completely separate, and Matt juggling between the two is neither believable, nor interesting.
The Hand, and Elektra being the Black Sky is both uninteresting and badly introduced. Why is there a giant hole in the ground? Nobody knows. Why are they draining those kids' blood? Nobody knows. What happens to them after they are taken from hospital and killed? Nobody knows (unless that girl in the wig at the end was supposed to be one of them). What is that ancient dagger stick gives his two henchmen before Elektra kills them? Nobody knows. And none of that is at all relevant to the plot, so why even bother? So much time was wasted on irrelevant details, when insofar as the Hand in S2 was concerned, they are a secret band of ninjas (as if that isn't lame enough without all the supernatural mumbo jumbo) who are looking for something called "Black Sky". As for the idea that Nobu knows Black Sky is a female warrior prodigy who he tracked to Hell's Kitchen, but takes until episode 12 to figure out it's Elektra? Why? And what makes this all worse is that both Elektra and her interactions with DD are just flat.
The Blacksmith. Wtf is up with that? Very rushed and completely unbelievable in the way it was introduced. Detracted from the otherwise awesome plotline that was The Punisher.
Matt's treatment of the Punisher case, and Foggy in general. We just have to accept that Elektra turns up in HK and Matt drops literally everything else to help her do *whatever*, when the series had just spent all the previous episodes on building up the DD-Punisher dynamic, and Matt had passionately argued to take the Punisher case himself. He then throws it all in Foggy's lap because "mystery client".
I expect many of those details about black sky and the hand to be explained in future seasons. If not then yes it will be a problem.
There are guys who will drop everything for girls they like all the time in real life so I don't think that was unrealistic. It made Matt a jerk to his friends, but he was clearly more obsessed with being Daredevil than having friends, and Electra was the only one who he didn't have to justify that lifestyle with or hide it.
On April 07 2016 14:43 malcram wrote: can't wait for the Jessica Jones crossover in future seasons
Considering she is a weak combatant I am not sure I do :D
She would have died long ago if she needed to face enemies that DD faces.
On the other hand DD would hit Kilgrave with his stick from a distance and send him to sleep without all the complications. Only problem would be to find someone to kill him :D
On April 07 2016 14:43 malcram wrote: can't wait for the Jessica Jones crossover in future seasons
Considering she is a weak combatant I am not sure I do :D
She would have died long ago if she needed to face enemies that DD faces.
On the other hand DD would hit Kilgrave with his stick from a distance and send him to sleep without all the complications. Only problem would be to find someone to kill him :D
She lacks DD's skill, sure, but she's super f-ing strong. That counts for something against a lot of enemies. For instance, some of those long hallway fights that he barely gets through she could just punch each guy once hard and keep moving. But he has skill and agility, which means that he's often gonna have the upper hand against anyone of extraordinary capabilities that could block/evade her attacks (while she's better for clearing trash). I can see it as a good team.
Of the Defenders heroes so far:
Luke: Tank Jessica: STR dps Daredevil: DEX dps/dodgetank Punisher: ranged dps Nurse Temple: healer Elektra: (basically like daredevil? honestly, kinda uninteresting fighting style) Stick: whatever the script calls for, as far as I can tell
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