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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 14 2015 14:41 GMT
#61
With 3 other Marvel Netflix shows and the Defenders mini-series, there is a lot to look forward to if they can live up to a similar quality as Daredevil. I believe AKA Jessica Jones is next up probably around December.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 14 2015 20:24 GMT
#62
On April 14 2015 05:36 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 03:43 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 02:01 karazax wrote:
Yeah I definitely liked episode one of Daredevil more than GoT's premiere.

I like the release the whole season at once from a binge watching convenience, but it does make discussion about the show more difficult and some what less interesting. There is no speculation about what will happen next episode, or really breaking down individual episodes for a week like you do with a network show when you can watch them all back to back.

True but I think individual DD episodes are not interesting enough to wait each week for them. They work well as a part of a whole season that you can watch in short time.



I don't think that they aren't interesting enough. It would be more difficult for casual viewers to keep up with with a week delay though. Doesn't really matter since it isn't going to change. It's just harder for me to remember all the details of each individual episode for discussion after the fact when I watch all 13 in a day or two, and it's harder to say how long it's appropriate to spoiler tag details.

More thoughts from the entire series:
+ Show Spoiler +
I liked the introduction of Stick and build up there. Loved when Matt came face to face with Fisk in the art gallery. Loved the ninja fight vs Nobu in episode 9. Was pretty surprised when Fisk showed up right after Murdock barely survived and then gets discovered by Foggy. I like that Karen flirts some with Foggy, but they didn't go for the stereotypical love triangle. Karen has her own agenda and drive. Karen shooting Wesley was pretty surprising too, and not getting scooped up or even discovered, nor sharing what she did with anyone. Foggy does a great job in the series as a side kick with charisma and humor and likeable enough that even when he is anti-Daredevil, you can empathize with his side. Lots of Marvel universe tie ins in the show. From Karl Crusher Creel, the absorbing man, fighting Matt's dad, to the "Greek girl" Matt dated in college (Electra), to Roxxon Oil, Van Lundt Real estate. Father Lantom is a reoccurring priest in the Marvel universe, working with Cloak and Dagger among others. When the show mentions Kingpin taking over Rigoletto's books, they are giving a nod to the comic origins. Don Rigoletto was a mob boss who first hired Fisk as his bodyguard and enforcer, before Fisk took his life – and his criminal empire along with it. Leland Owlsley is the villain the Owl in the comics. We shall see if he really died from that fall. The markings on the heroine is the symbol on the chest of Iron Fist villain Steel Serpent. St Agnes orphanage is the same one that Skye from Agents of SHIELD was at.

A cameo on the wall for Stan Lee
[image loading]




The only other nitpick that comes to mind is the finale and Fisk allowing himself to be arrested and then arranging the gunning down of his escort into custody with a plan to drive to the helicopter to be flown out. Why allow yourself to be arrested in the first place if you have men on the inside? Maybe he didn't have time to plan his escape before they arrived, but if so then how did he have time to plan the break out and get his men on the inside? Did he whisper to Vanessa to plan that escape? Seems like something that would take a lot more planning than a 5 second whisper would allow for. Why not have the helicopter come to him? It's based on a comic book so none of those nitpicks ruined it for me, but it did stretch the lines of logic in a show that generally approached things in a fairly logical fashion.

I suspect that Madame Gao and Stick will make a reappearance in Iron Fist. Loved the red costume. Overall the season was great and I'm looking forward to more.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just before police arrest him he says plans have been made to his girl. She didn't plan anything, she was just told to wait by the helicopter. He didn't want the helicopter to come to him because he would risk her and he didn't want that. He would rather go to jail. As he said, it is just an inconvenience.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 15 2015 00:46 GMT
#63
On April 15 2015 05:24 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:36 karazax wrote:
On April 14 2015 03:43 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 02:01 karazax wrote:
Yeah I definitely liked episode one of Daredevil more than GoT's premiere.

I like the release the whole season at once from a binge watching convenience, but it does make discussion about the show more difficult and some what less interesting. There is no speculation about what will happen next episode, or really breaking down individual episodes for a week like you do with a network show when you can watch them all back to back.

True but I think individual DD episodes are not interesting enough to wait each week for them. They work well as a part of a whole season that you can watch in short time.



I don't think that they aren't interesting enough. It would be more difficult for casual viewers to keep up with with a week delay though. Doesn't really matter since it isn't going to change. It's just harder for me to remember all the details of each individual episode for discussion after the fact when I watch all 13 in a day or two, and it's harder to say how long it's appropriate to spoiler tag details.

More thoughts from the entire series:
+ Show Spoiler +
I liked the introduction of Stick and build up there. Loved when Matt came face to face with Fisk in the art gallery. Loved the ninja fight vs Nobu in episode 9. Was pretty surprised when Fisk showed up right after Murdock barely survived and then gets discovered by Foggy. I like that Karen flirts some with Foggy, but they didn't go for the stereotypical love triangle. Karen has her own agenda and drive. Karen shooting Wesley was pretty surprising too, and not getting scooped up or even discovered, nor sharing what she did with anyone. Foggy does a great job in the series as a side kick with charisma and humor and likeable enough that even when he is anti-Daredevil, you can empathize with his side. Lots of Marvel universe tie ins in the show. From Karl Crusher Creel, the absorbing man, fighting Matt's dad, to the "Greek girl" Matt dated in college (Electra), to Roxxon Oil, Van Lundt Real estate. Father Lantom is a reoccurring priest in the Marvel universe, working with Cloak and Dagger among others. When the show mentions Kingpin taking over Rigoletto's books, they are giving a nod to the comic origins. Don Rigoletto was a mob boss who first hired Fisk as his bodyguard and enforcer, before Fisk took his life – and his criminal empire along with it. Leland Owlsley is the villain the Owl in the comics. We shall see if he really died from that fall. The markings on the heroine is the symbol on the chest of Iron Fist villain Steel Serpent. St Agnes orphanage is the same one that Skye from Agents of SHIELD was at.

A cameo on the wall for Stan Lee
[image loading]




The only other nitpick that comes to mind is the finale and Fisk allowing himself to be arrested and then arranging the gunning down of his escort into custody with a plan to drive to the helicopter to be flown out. Why allow yourself to be arrested in the first place if you have men on the inside? Maybe he didn't have time to plan his escape before they arrived, but if so then how did he have time to plan the break out and get his men on the inside? Did he whisper to Vanessa to plan that escape? Seems like something that would take a lot more planning than a 5 second whisper would allow for. Why not have the helicopter come to him? It's based on a comic book so none of those nitpicks ruined it for me, but it did stretch the lines of logic in a show that generally approached things in a fairly logical fashion.

I suspect that Madame Gao and Stick will make a reappearance in Iron Fist. Loved the red costume. Overall the season was great and I'm looking forward to more.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just before police arrest him he says plans have been made to his girl. She didn't plan anything, she was just told to wait by the helicopter. He didn't want the helicopter to come to him because he would risk her and he didn't want that. He would rather go to jail. As he said, it is just an inconvenience.

Discussion of the finale:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just saying, if he had time to plan an elaborate and dangerous escape that required men on the inside escorting him, it seems like he could have just avoided getting taken into custody in the first place. It's a nitpick, but it took me out of the story some.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 15 2015 07:50 GMT
#64
On April 15 2015 09:46 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 05:24 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:36 karazax wrote:
I don't think that they aren't interesting enough. It would be more difficult for casual viewers to keep up with with a week delay though. Doesn't really matter since it isn't going to change. It's just harder for me to remember all the details of each individual episode for discussion after the fact when I watch all 13 in a day or two, and it's harder to say how long it's appropriate to spoiler tag details.

More thoughts from the entire series:
+ Show Spoiler +
I liked the introduction of Stick and build up there. Loved when Matt came face to face with Fisk in the art gallery. Loved the ninja fight vs Nobu in episode 9. Was pretty surprised when Fisk showed up right after Murdock barely survived and then gets discovered by Foggy. I like that Karen flirts some with Foggy, but they didn't go for the stereotypical love triangle. Karen has her own agenda and drive. Karen shooting Wesley was pretty surprising too, and not getting scooped up or even discovered, nor sharing what she did with anyone. Foggy does a great job in the series as a side kick with charisma and humor and likeable enough that even when he is anti-Daredevil, you can empathize with his side. Lots of Marvel universe tie ins in the show. From Karl Crusher Creel, the absorbing man, fighting Matt's dad, to the "Greek girl" Matt dated in college (Electra), to Roxxon Oil, Van Lundt Real estate. Father Lantom is a reoccurring priest in the Marvel universe, working with Cloak and Dagger among others. When the show mentions Kingpin taking over Rigoletto's books, they are giving a nod to the comic origins. Don Rigoletto was a mob boss who first hired Fisk as his bodyguard and enforcer, before Fisk took his life – and his criminal empire along with it. Leland Owlsley is the villain the Owl in the comics. We shall see if he really died from that fall. The markings on the heroine is the symbol on the chest of Iron Fist villain Steel Serpent. St Agnes orphanage is the same one that Skye from Agents of SHIELD was at.

A cameo on the wall for Stan Lee
[image loading]




The only other nitpick that comes to mind is the finale and Fisk allowing himself to be arrested and then arranging the gunning down of his escort into custody with a plan to drive to the helicopter to be flown out. Why allow yourself to be arrested in the first place if you have men on the inside? Maybe he didn't have time to plan his escape before they arrived, but if so then how did he have time to plan the break out and get his men on the inside? Did he whisper to Vanessa to plan that escape? Seems like something that would take a lot more planning than a 5 second whisper would allow for. Why not have the helicopter come to him? It's based on a comic book so none of those nitpicks ruined it for me, but it did stretch the lines of logic in a show that generally approached things in a fairly logical fashion.

I suspect that Madame Gao and Stick will make a reappearance in Iron Fist. Loved the red costume. Overall the season was great and I'm looking forward to more.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just before police arrest him he says plans have been made to his girl. She didn't plan anything, she was just told to wait by the helicopter. He didn't want the helicopter to come to him because he would risk her and he didn't want that. He would rather go to jail. As he said, it is just an inconvenience.

Discussion of the finale:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just saying, if he had time to plan an elaborate and dangerous escape that required men on the inside escorting him, it seems like he could have just avoided getting taken into custody in the first place. It's a nitpick, but it took me out of the story some.

+ Show Spoiler +
Since we cannot know the extent of his contacts inside the police and feds and others what happened is just as likely as what you wanted. Maybe he had no contacts inside FBI task force that was on his case but he had amongst some of the special troops. And we only saw one that was on the inside, the guys in black I think were some mercenaries
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 15 2015 13:30 GMT
#65
On April 15 2015 09:46 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 05:24 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:36 karazax wrote:
On April 14 2015 03:43 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 02:01 karazax wrote:
Yeah I definitely liked episode one of Daredevil more than GoT's premiere.

I like the release the whole season at once from a binge watching convenience, but it does make discussion about the show more difficult and some what less interesting. There is no speculation about what will happen next episode, or really breaking down individual episodes for a week like you do with a network show when you can watch them all back to back.

True but I think individual DD episodes are not interesting enough to wait each week for them. They work well as a part of a whole season that you can watch in short time.



I don't think that they aren't interesting enough. It would be more difficult for casual viewers to keep up with with a week delay though. Doesn't really matter since it isn't going to change. It's just harder for me to remember all the details of each individual episode for discussion after the fact when I watch all 13 in a day or two, and it's harder to say how long it's appropriate to spoiler tag details.

More thoughts from the entire series:
+ Show Spoiler +
I liked the introduction of Stick and build up there. Loved when Matt came face to face with Fisk in the art gallery. Loved the ninja fight vs Nobu in episode 9. Was pretty surprised when Fisk showed up right after Murdock barely survived and then gets discovered by Foggy. I like that Karen flirts some with Foggy, but they didn't go for the stereotypical love triangle. Karen has her own agenda and drive. Karen shooting Wesley was pretty surprising too, and not getting scooped up or even discovered, nor sharing what she did with anyone. Foggy does a great job in the series as a side kick with charisma and humor and likeable enough that even when he is anti-Daredevil, you can empathize with his side. Lots of Marvel universe tie ins in the show. From Karl Crusher Creel, the absorbing man, fighting Matt's dad, to the "Greek girl" Matt dated in college (Electra), to Roxxon Oil, Van Lundt Real estate. Father Lantom is a reoccurring priest in the Marvel universe, working with Cloak and Dagger among others. When the show mentions Kingpin taking over Rigoletto's books, they are giving a nod to the comic origins. Don Rigoletto was a mob boss who first hired Fisk as his bodyguard and enforcer, before Fisk took his life – and his criminal empire along with it. Leland Owlsley is the villain the Owl in the comics. We shall see if he really died from that fall. The markings on the heroine is the symbol on the chest of Iron Fist villain Steel Serpent. St Agnes orphanage is the same one that Skye from Agents of SHIELD was at.

A cameo on the wall for Stan Lee
[image loading]




The only other nitpick that comes to mind is the finale and Fisk allowing himself to be arrested and then arranging the gunning down of his escort into custody with a plan to drive to the helicopter to be flown out. Why allow yourself to be arrested in the first place if you have men on the inside? Maybe he didn't have time to plan his escape before they arrived, but if so then how did he have time to plan the break out and get his men on the inside? Did he whisper to Vanessa to plan that escape? Seems like something that would take a lot more planning than a 5 second whisper would allow for. Why not have the helicopter come to him? It's based on a comic book so none of those nitpicks ruined it for me, but it did stretch the lines of logic in a show that generally approached things in a fairly logical fashion.

I suspect that Madame Gao and Stick will make a reappearance in Iron Fist. Loved the red costume. Overall the season was great and I'm looking forward to more.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just before police arrest him he says plans have been made to his girl. She didn't plan anything, she was just told to wait by the helicopter. He didn't want the helicopter to come to him because he would risk her and he didn't want that. He would rather go to jail. As he said, it is just an inconvenience.

Discussion of the finale:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just saying, if he had time to plan an elaborate and dangerous escape that required men on the inside escorting him, it seems like he could have just avoided getting taken into custody in the first place. It's a nitpick, but it took me out of the story some.

+ Show Spoiler +
I got the impression that the people who took him were FBI and he didn't have an "inside" man. The whole plan may have been cooked up very quickly. Though that is generally not how law works, but whatever its TV.

My main issue with the last episode is unnecessary flipping by DareDevil. Its one of my pet peeves, so I understand if people don't mind it. Also standing really weird in super hero suits. Just stand like a normal person, it works for Batman. But its the first time we see the suit, so I let it pass because the fight was good.

Would have liked to see the suit used earlier in the episode however. Like when he rescues the dirty cop.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10939 Posts
April 15 2015 13:38 GMT
#66
On April 15 2015 22:30 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 09:46 karazax wrote:
On April 15 2015 05:24 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:36 karazax wrote:
On April 14 2015 03:43 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 02:01 karazax wrote:
Yeah I definitely liked episode one of Daredevil more than GoT's premiere.

I like the release the whole season at once from a binge watching convenience, but it does make discussion about the show more difficult and some what less interesting. There is no speculation about what will happen next episode, or really breaking down individual episodes for a week like you do with a network show when you can watch them all back to back.

True but I think individual DD episodes are not interesting enough to wait each week for them. They work well as a part of a whole season that you can watch in short time.



I don't think that they aren't interesting enough. It would be more difficult for casual viewers to keep up with with a week delay though. Doesn't really matter since it isn't going to change. It's just harder for me to remember all the details of each individual episode for discussion after the fact when I watch all 13 in a day or two, and it's harder to say how long it's appropriate to spoiler tag details.

More thoughts from the entire series:
+ Show Spoiler +
I liked the introduction of Stick and build up there. Loved when Matt came face to face with Fisk in the art gallery. Loved the ninja fight vs Nobu in episode 9. Was pretty surprised when Fisk showed up right after Murdock barely survived and then gets discovered by Foggy. I like that Karen flirts some with Foggy, but they didn't go for the stereotypical love triangle. Karen has her own agenda and drive. Karen shooting Wesley was pretty surprising too, and not getting scooped up or even discovered, nor sharing what she did with anyone. Foggy does a great job in the series as a side kick with charisma and humor and likeable enough that even when he is anti-Daredevil, you can empathize with his side. Lots of Marvel universe tie ins in the show. From Karl Crusher Creel, the absorbing man, fighting Matt's dad, to the "Greek girl" Matt dated in college (Electra), to Roxxon Oil, Van Lundt Real estate. Father Lantom is a reoccurring priest in the Marvel universe, working with Cloak and Dagger among others. When the show mentions Kingpin taking over Rigoletto's books, they are giving a nod to the comic origins. Don Rigoletto was a mob boss who first hired Fisk as his bodyguard and enforcer, before Fisk took his life – and his criminal empire along with it. Leland Owlsley is the villain the Owl in the comics. We shall see if he really died from that fall. The markings on the heroine is the symbol on the chest of Iron Fist villain Steel Serpent. St Agnes orphanage is the same one that Skye from Agents of SHIELD was at.

A cameo on the wall for Stan Lee
[image loading]




The only other nitpick that comes to mind is the finale and Fisk allowing himself to be arrested and then arranging the gunning down of his escort into custody with a plan to drive to the helicopter to be flown out. Why allow yourself to be arrested in the first place if you have men on the inside? Maybe he didn't have time to plan his escape before they arrived, but if so then how did he have time to plan the break out and get his men on the inside? Did he whisper to Vanessa to plan that escape? Seems like something that would take a lot more planning than a 5 second whisper would allow for. Why not have the helicopter come to him? It's based on a comic book so none of those nitpicks ruined it for me, but it did stretch the lines of logic in a show that generally approached things in a fairly logical fashion.

I suspect that Madame Gao and Stick will make a reappearance in Iron Fist. Loved the red costume. Overall the season was great and I'm looking forward to more.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just before police arrest him he says plans have been made to his girl. She didn't plan anything, she was just told to wait by the helicopter. He didn't want the helicopter to come to him because he would risk her and he didn't want that. He would rather go to jail. As he said, it is just an inconvenience.

Discussion of the finale:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just saying, if he had time to plan an elaborate and dangerous escape that required men on the inside escorting him, it seems like he could have just avoided getting taken into custody in the first place. It's a nitpick, but it took me out of the story some.

+ Show Spoiler +
I got the impression that the people who took him were FBI and he didn't have an "inside" man. The whole plan may have been cooked up very quickly. Though that is generally not how law works, but whatever its TV.

My main issue with the last episode is unnecessary flipping by DareDevil. Its one of my pet peeves, so I understand if people don't mind it. Also standing really weird in super hero suits. Just stand like a normal person, it works for Batman. But its the first time we see the suit, so I let it pass because the fight was good.

Would have liked to see the suit used earlier in the episode however. Like when he rescues the dirty cop.



Yeah, there is in general too much "flipping" but once you accept it the choreo is just really well done. I actually don't remember having seen any fight as "cool" as the one vs the Japanese guy in any western movie (not just series)...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 15 2015 13:44 GMT
#67
On April 15 2015 22:38 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 22:30 Plansix wrote:
On April 15 2015 09:46 karazax wrote:
On April 15 2015 05:24 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:36 karazax wrote:
On April 14 2015 03:43 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 02:01 karazax wrote:
Yeah I definitely liked episode one of Daredevil more than GoT's premiere.

I like the release the whole season at once from a binge watching convenience, but it does make discussion about the show more difficult and some what less interesting. There is no speculation about what will happen next episode, or really breaking down individual episodes for a week like you do with a network show when you can watch them all back to back.

True but I think individual DD episodes are not interesting enough to wait each week for them. They work well as a part of a whole season that you can watch in short time.



I don't think that they aren't interesting enough. It would be more difficult for casual viewers to keep up with with a week delay though. Doesn't really matter since it isn't going to change. It's just harder for me to remember all the details of each individual episode for discussion after the fact when I watch all 13 in a day or two, and it's harder to say how long it's appropriate to spoiler tag details.

More thoughts from the entire series:
+ Show Spoiler +
I liked the introduction of Stick and build up there. Loved when Matt came face to face with Fisk in the art gallery. Loved the ninja fight vs Nobu in episode 9. Was pretty surprised when Fisk showed up right after Murdock barely survived and then gets discovered by Foggy. I like that Karen flirts some with Foggy, but they didn't go for the stereotypical love triangle. Karen has her own agenda and drive. Karen shooting Wesley was pretty surprising too, and not getting scooped up or even discovered, nor sharing what she did with anyone. Foggy does a great job in the series as a side kick with charisma and humor and likeable enough that even when he is anti-Daredevil, you can empathize with his side. Lots of Marvel universe tie ins in the show. From Karl Crusher Creel, the absorbing man, fighting Matt's dad, to the "Greek girl" Matt dated in college (Electra), to Roxxon Oil, Van Lundt Real estate. Father Lantom is a reoccurring priest in the Marvel universe, working with Cloak and Dagger among others. When the show mentions Kingpin taking over Rigoletto's books, they are giving a nod to the comic origins. Don Rigoletto was a mob boss who first hired Fisk as his bodyguard and enforcer, before Fisk took his life – and his criminal empire along with it. Leland Owlsley is the villain the Owl in the comics. We shall see if he really died from that fall. The markings on the heroine is the symbol on the chest of Iron Fist villain Steel Serpent. St Agnes orphanage is the same one that Skye from Agents of SHIELD was at.

A cameo on the wall for Stan Lee
[image loading]




The only other nitpick that comes to mind is the finale and Fisk allowing himself to be arrested and then arranging the gunning down of his escort into custody with a plan to drive to the helicopter to be flown out. Why allow yourself to be arrested in the first place if you have men on the inside? Maybe he didn't have time to plan his escape before they arrived, but if so then how did he have time to plan the break out and get his men on the inside? Did he whisper to Vanessa to plan that escape? Seems like something that would take a lot more planning than a 5 second whisper would allow for. Why not have the helicopter come to him? It's based on a comic book so none of those nitpicks ruined it for me, but it did stretch the lines of logic in a show that generally approached things in a fairly logical fashion.

I suspect that Madame Gao and Stick will make a reappearance in Iron Fist. Loved the red costume. Overall the season was great and I'm looking forward to more.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just before police arrest him he says plans have been made to his girl. She didn't plan anything, she was just told to wait by the helicopter. He didn't want the helicopter to come to him because he would risk her and he didn't want that. He would rather go to jail. As he said, it is just an inconvenience.

Discussion of the finale:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just saying, if he had time to plan an elaborate and dangerous escape that required men on the inside escorting him, it seems like he could have just avoided getting taken into custody in the first place. It's a nitpick, but it took me out of the story some.

+ Show Spoiler +
I got the impression that the people who took him were FBI and he didn't have an "inside" man. The whole plan may have been cooked up very quickly. Though that is generally not how law works, but whatever its TV.

My main issue with the last episode is unnecessary flipping by DareDevil. Its one of my pet peeves, so I understand if people don't mind it. Also standing really weird in super hero suits. Just stand like a normal person, it works for Batman. But its the first time we see the suit, so I let it pass because the fight was good.

Would have liked to see the suit used earlier in the episode however. Like when he rescues the dirty cop.



Yeah, there is in general too much "flipping" but once you accept it the choreo is just really well done. I actually don't remember having seen any fight as "cool" as the one vs the Japanese guy in any western movie (not just series)...


I love a good flip kick or the way he dodges gun fire. It doesn't bother me during a fight. It’s the flipping to enter a scene or get off a 6 foot tall object that he could just jump down from that drives me nuts.

It is 100% my pet peeve and I know it doesn't bother other people. I really enjoyed the series and that is my big only complaint. I really want them to do more and with more budget and more cross overs from other Marvel stuff. If Spiderman showed up for a couple of episodes, I would die.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 15 2015 13:47 GMT
#68
when daredevil flips he moves the air which allows him to see better than dropping would

#shittyscience
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 15 2015 14:04 GMT
#69
On April 15 2015 22:44 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 22:38 Velr wrote:
On April 15 2015 22:30 Plansix wrote:
On April 15 2015 09:46 karazax wrote:
On April 15 2015 05:24 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:36 karazax wrote:
On April 14 2015 03:43 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 02:01 karazax wrote:
Yeah I definitely liked episode one of Daredevil more than GoT's premiere.

I like the release the whole season at once from a binge watching convenience, but it does make discussion about the show more difficult and some what less interesting. There is no speculation about what will happen next episode, or really breaking down individual episodes for a week like you do with a network show when you can watch them all back to back.

True but I think individual DD episodes are not interesting enough to wait each week for them. They work well as a part of a whole season that you can watch in short time.



I don't think that they aren't interesting enough. It would be more difficult for casual viewers to keep up with with a week delay though. Doesn't really matter since it isn't going to change. It's just harder for me to remember all the details of each individual episode for discussion after the fact when I watch all 13 in a day or two, and it's harder to say how long it's appropriate to spoiler tag details.

More thoughts from the entire series:
+ Show Spoiler +
I liked the introduction of Stick and build up there. Loved when Matt came face to face with Fisk in the art gallery. Loved the ninja fight vs Nobu in episode 9. Was pretty surprised when Fisk showed up right after Murdock barely survived and then gets discovered by Foggy. I like that Karen flirts some with Foggy, but they didn't go for the stereotypical love triangle. Karen has her own agenda and drive. Karen shooting Wesley was pretty surprising too, and not getting scooped up or even discovered, nor sharing what she did with anyone. Foggy does a great job in the series as a side kick with charisma and humor and likeable enough that even when he is anti-Daredevil, you can empathize with his side. Lots of Marvel universe tie ins in the show. From Karl Crusher Creel, the absorbing man, fighting Matt's dad, to the "Greek girl" Matt dated in college (Electra), to Roxxon Oil, Van Lundt Real estate. Father Lantom is a reoccurring priest in the Marvel universe, working with Cloak and Dagger among others. When the show mentions Kingpin taking over Rigoletto's books, they are giving a nod to the comic origins. Don Rigoletto was a mob boss who first hired Fisk as his bodyguard and enforcer, before Fisk took his life – and his criminal empire along with it. Leland Owlsley is the villain the Owl in the comics. We shall see if he really died from that fall. The markings on the heroine is the symbol on the chest of Iron Fist villain Steel Serpent. St Agnes orphanage is the same one that Skye from Agents of SHIELD was at.

A cameo on the wall for Stan Lee
[image loading]




The only other nitpick that comes to mind is the finale and Fisk allowing himself to be arrested and then arranging the gunning down of his escort into custody with a plan to drive to the helicopter to be flown out. Why allow yourself to be arrested in the first place if you have men on the inside? Maybe he didn't have time to plan his escape before they arrived, but if so then how did he have time to plan the break out and get his men on the inside? Did he whisper to Vanessa to plan that escape? Seems like something that would take a lot more planning than a 5 second whisper would allow for. Why not have the helicopter come to him? It's based on a comic book so none of those nitpicks ruined it for me, but it did stretch the lines of logic in a show that generally approached things in a fairly logical fashion.

I suspect that Madame Gao and Stick will make a reappearance in Iron Fist. Loved the red costume. Overall the season was great and I'm looking forward to more.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just before police arrest him he says plans have been made to his girl. She didn't plan anything, she was just told to wait by the helicopter. He didn't want the helicopter to come to him because he would risk her and he didn't want that. He would rather go to jail. As he said, it is just an inconvenience.

Discussion of the finale:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just saying, if he had time to plan an elaborate and dangerous escape that required men on the inside escorting him, it seems like he could have just avoided getting taken into custody in the first place. It's a nitpick, but it took me out of the story some.

+ Show Spoiler +
I got the impression that the people who took him were FBI and he didn't have an "inside" man. The whole plan may have been cooked up very quickly. Though that is generally not how law works, but whatever its TV.

My main issue with the last episode is unnecessary flipping by DareDevil. Its one of my pet peeves, so I understand if people don't mind it. Also standing really weird in super hero suits. Just stand like a normal person, it works for Batman. But its the first time we see the suit, so I let it pass because the fight was good.

Would have liked to see the suit used earlier in the episode however. Like when he rescues the dirty cop.



Yeah, there is in general too much "flipping" but once you accept it the choreo is just really well done. I actually don't remember having seen any fight as "cool" as the one vs the Japanese guy in any western movie (not just series)...


I love a good flip kick or the way he dodges gun fire. It doesn't bother me during a fight. It’s the flipping to enter a scene or get off a 6 foot tall object that he could just jump down from that drives me nuts.

It is 100% my pet peeve and I know it doesn't bother other people. I really enjoyed the series and that is my big only complaint. I really want them to do more and with more budget and more cross overs from other Marvel stuff. If Spiderman showed up for a couple of episodes, I would die.

Only time I didn't like his flipping was during his following the chinese by running on rooftops. All the flipping during combat or by coming to the scene has a reason, more intimidating and I would guess easier to balance after the fall. And during combat flipping confuses his enemies as they are not used to fighting anyone that does that.
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
April 15 2015 14:40 GMT
#70
Ooooh, Spiderman crossover T_T Kingpin is quite featured in TASM cartoon series.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 15 2015 14:56 GMT
#71
DareDevil and Spiderman have always had good cross over stories, since they are both New York based and are close in “power level”. They always make good buddy cop drama because Spiderman does not take things seriously and DareDevil is so brooding.
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 15 2015 19:09 GMT
#72
On April 15 2015 22:30 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 09:46 karazax wrote:
On April 15 2015 05:24 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 05:36 karazax wrote:
On April 14 2015 03:43 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 14 2015 02:01 karazax wrote:
Yeah I definitely liked episode one of Daredevil more than GoT's premiere.

I like the release the whole season at once from a binge watching convenience, but it does make discussion about the show more difficult and some what less interesting. There is no speculation about what will happen next episode, or really breaking down individual episodes for a week like you do with a network show when you can watch them all back to back.

True but I think individual DD episodes are not interesting enough to wait each week for them. They work well as a part of a whole season that you can watch in short time.



I don't think that they aren't interesting enough. It would be more difficult for casual viewers to keep up with with a week delay though. Doesn't really matter since it isn't going to change. It's just harder for me to remember all the details of each individual episode for discussion after the fact when I watch all 13 in a day or two, and it's harder to say how long it's appropriate to spoiler tag details.

More thoughts from the entire series:
+ Show Spoiler +
I liked the introduction of Stick and build up there. Loved when Matt came face to face with Fisk in the art gallery. Loved the ninja fight vs Nobu in episode 9. Was pretty surprised when Fisk showed up right after Murdock barely survived and then gets discovered by Foggy. I like that Karen flirts some with Foggy, but they didn't go for the stereotypical love triangle. Karen has her own agenda and drive. Karen shooting Wesley was pretty surprising too, and not getting scooped up or even discovered, nor sharing what she did with anyone. Foggy does a great job in the series as a side kick with charisma and humor and likeable enough that even when he is anti-Daredevil, you can empathize with his side. Lots of Marvel universe tie ins in the show. From Karl Crusher Creel, the absorbing man, fighting Matt's dad, to the "Greek girl" Matt dated in college (Electra), to Roxxon Oil, Van Lundt Real estate. Father Lantom is a reoccurring priest in the Marvel universe, working with Cloak and Dagger among others. When the show mentions Kingpin taking over Rigoletto's books, they are giving a nod to the comic origins. Don Rigoletto was a mob boss who first hired Fisk as his bodyguard and enforcer, before Fisk took his life – and his criminal empire along with it. Leland Owlsley is the villain the Owl in the comics. We shall see if he really died from that fall. The markings on the heroine is the symbol on the chest of Iron Fist villain Steel Serpent. St Agnes orphanage is the same one that Skye from Agents of SHIELD was at.

A cameo on the wall for Stan Lee
[image loading]




The only other nitpick that comes to mind is the finale and Fisk allowing himself to be arrested and then arranging the gunning down of his escort into custody with a plan to drive to the helicopter to be flown out. Why allow yourself to be arrested in the first place if you have men on the inside? Maybe he didn't have time to plan his escape before they arrived, but if so then how did he have time to plan the break out and get his men on the inside? Did he whisper to Vanessa to plan that escape? Seems like something that would take a lot more planning than a 5 second whisper would allow for. Why not have the helicopter come to him? It's based on a comic book so none of those nitpicks ruined it for me, but it did stretch the lines of logic in a show that generally approached things in a fairly logical fashion.

I suspect that Madame Gao and Stick will make a reappearance in Iron Fist. Loved the red costume. Overall the season was great and I'm looking forward to more.

+ Show Spoiler +
Just before police arrest him he says plans have been made to his girl. She didn't plan anything, she was just told to wait by the helicopter. He didn't want the helicopter to come to him because he would risk her and he didn't want that. He would rather go to jail. As he said, it is just an inconvenience.

Discussion of the finale:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just saying, if he had time to plan an elaborate and dangerous escape that required men on the inside escorting him, it seems like he could have just avoided getting taken into custody in the first place. It's a nitpick, but it took me out of the story some.

+ Show Spoiler +
I got the impression that the people who took him were FBI and he didn't have an "inside" man. The whole plan may have been cooked up very quickly. Though that is generally not how law works, but whatever its TV.

My main issue with the last episode is unnecessary flipping by DareDevil. Its one of my pet peeves, so I understand if people don't mind it. Also standing really weird in super hero suits. Just stand like a normal person, it works for Batman. But its the first time we see the suit, so I let it pass because the fight was good.

Would have liked to see the suit used earlier in the episode however. Like when he rescues the dirty cop.

Re: finale
+ Show Spoiler +
He defintely had at least one inside guy, the guard who shot the other FBI agent inside the van and uncuffed Fisk. I only watched it once, so I wasn't 100% clear where the other swat team dressed guys came from.


I agree that the flipping on the rooftop chase scene was a bit silly. I don't mind it at all in the fights.

Still overall I liked the series a lot and looking forward to more.
slained
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada966 Posts
April 15 2015 22:34 GMT
#73
Actually I think Daredevil's signature in comic books is flipping and running through stunts and crap on rooftops.

Loved the series
+ Show Spoiler +
Don't like the real costume too much, better than not having an iconic suit I guess
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
April 15 2015 22:46 GMT
#74
I really enjoyed the serie, way way better than the movie :D
I really like the rebirth of the Marvel univers :p
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 11:53:59
April 16 2015 04:07 GMT
#75
I'm going to miss the character of + Show Spoiler +
Wesley, he was so awesome.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
April 16 2015 05:48 GMT
#76
On April 16 2015 13:07 KillerSOS wrote:
I'm going to miss the character of + Show Spoiler +
Michael, he was so awesome.


+ Show Spoiler +
You mean Wesley? Or did i miss a major character in the show :D
Pibacc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada545 Posts
April 16 2015 06:31 GMT
#77
+ Show Spoiler +
Am I the only one who disliked the suit? I thought he looked way better with his black mask, but that just may be because there were so many badass fight scenes with him wearing it. The acting felt kind of off when he was in red though. A thought did occur to me that I prefer the black mask over his red suit because it reminds me of Illidan.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 16 2015 07:41 GMT
#78
On April 16 2015 15:31 Pibacc wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Am I the only one who disliked the suit? I thought he looked way better with his black mask, but that just may be because there were so many badass fight scenes with him wearing it. The acting felt kind of off when he was in red though. A thought did occur to me that I prefer the black mask over his red suit because it reminds me of Illidan.

+ Show Spoiler +
Of course you prefer black when you spend 12.5 hours watching him wear that and then suddenly for 10 minutes wearing a red suit. Next season you will get used to it.
zbedlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia549 Posts
April 16 2015 08:14 GMT
#79
Overall I really like the show. However I am currently skipping every scene involving the "side kick" or the token damsel. I'm sure their arc will get interesting eventually but right now.. ugh.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 16 2015 08:33 GMT
#80
On April 16 2015 17:14 zbedlam wrote:
Overall I really like the show. However I am currently skipping every scene involving the "side kick" or the token damsel. I'm sure their arc will get interesting eventually but right now.. ugh.

Personally I liked them a lot but not everyone likes same things for sure. I don't know which episode you are on, but Karen is not a token damsel in this show (except in Ep1).
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