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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17852 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 12:22:57
April 11 2015 12:22 GMT
#41
Discovered this show yesterday. I'm hooked. The acting is decent to say the least, characters actually have some depth to them, the are no "beautiful people" involved so far, making it look more real etc. The story keeps me interested, especially that it isn't as banal as in Arrow or Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. I believe that the quality of this show far surpassess most Marvel movie released to date (with the exception of Guardians of the Galaxy, X-Men rebooted series and Unbreakable - it's actually pretty similar to it).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
April 11 2015 12:59 GMT
#42
I like that he has difficulty taking on other competent fighters, and how his injuries are factored into Matt's way of doing his vigilante thing.
Zode
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada297 Posts
April 11 2015 22:10 GMT
#43
On April 11 2015 18:39 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 11:13 Zode wrote:
Made it upto ep10 so far, pretty legit show. Though it sucks that'll probably be a long time if ever for a season 2 lols.

You will have other 3 supehero shows (Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and Iron Fist) that Netflix is going to have to fill the time
And they will have one called Defenders where all 4 characters will band together.


Yea I heard a abit about those, but when do they come out?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
April 12 2015 01:16 GMT
#44
Watched the first episode and liked it a lot, very promising .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17852 Posts
April 12 2015 01:58 GMT
#45
Is the guy at the end of Ep. 7 Master Izo?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51637 Posts
April 12 2015 08:05 GMT
#46
On April 12 2015 10:58 Manit0u wrote:
Is the guy at the end of Ep. 7 Master Izo?


given the kind of interaction stick had with him, it has to be.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
April 12 2015 10:32 GMT
#47
According to this http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=118515 it seems to be Stone.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 12 2015 11:23 GMT
#48
that fight at start of ep 9
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
April 12 2015 14:58 GMT
#49
Amazingly surprised how the show turned out. Watched it all almost in one sitting.
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TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
April 12 2015 17:53 GMT
#50
I never saw Wilson Fisk being referred to as Kingpin, does that mean what comes after this will be sort of the birth of Kingpin?. I really liked the character and after the show ended I been wondering where he might go.

Really enjoyed the show, watched the whole thing in a couple of days. Really has me hyped for Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Season 2 of this show.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 13 2015 13:01 GMT
#51
He was alluded to as Kingpin by the + Show Spoiler +
research Ben was doing with him as the king card
. I thought the series was great over all. Not perfect, but very good. Any complaints I had were minor or nitpicks.
Quick thoughts on the entire series:
+ Show Spoiler +
First off it was 1000% better than the Ben Affleck movie. The fight scenes were well done, great cast, the characters were generally well developed and I cared about who they were. Nice foreshadowing with the Japanese and the Triad to likely tie in elements to the Iron Fist show when it airs.

Nitpicks: I wasn't 100% satisfied with the writing for Fisk and the Vanessa relationship felt a bit forced. The dynamic of being so powerful and careful that he controlled the entire town and yet constantly being questioned by his partners and being so emotionally rash seemed kind of conflicting. I know they tried to paint his behavior as this was caused by Vanessa, but it felt a bit off. Also would have been nice to give some background on how he went from poor boy who killed his dad to one of the richest and most powerful guys in the city. That and making him fall in season 1. No doubt he will be back at some point or in some form but I didn't expect him to be arrested in season 1. I was also a bit surprised that Ben died being one of the staple reporters for Marvel comics.


I was really happy with the series as a whole and looking forward to the rest of Netflix Marvel line up including AKA Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Luke Cage and the Defenders team up over the next year or so. If the viewership and ratings for Daredevil are what I expect, then we should get at least a few more seasons following this one and it's not unreasonable to think they could be a year apart like House of Cards has been.
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
April 13 2015 15:59 GMT
#52
On April 13 2015 22:01 karazax wrote:
He was alluded to as Kingpin by the + Show Spoiler +
research Ben was doing with him as the king card
. I thought the series was great over all. Not perfect, but very good. Any complaints I had were minor or nitpicks.
Quick thoughts on the entire series:
+ Show Spoiler +
First off it was 1000% better than the Ben Affleck movie. The fight scenes were well done, great cast, the characters were generally well developed and I cared about who they were. Nice foreshadowing with the Japanese and the Triad to likely tie in elements to the Iron Fist show when it airs.

Nitpicks: I wasn't 100% satisfied with the writing for Fisk and the Vanessa relationship felt a bit forced. The dynamic of being so powerful and careful that he controlled the entire town and yet constantly being questioned by his partners and being so emotionally rash seemed kind of conflicting. I know they tried to paint his behavior as this was caused by Vanessa, but it felt a bit off. Also would have been nice to give some background on how he went from poor boy who killed his dad to one of the richest and most powerful guys in the city. That and making him fall in season 1. No doubt he will be back at some point or in some form but I didn't expect him to be arrested in season 1. I was also a bit surprised that Ben died being one of the staple reporters for Marvel comics.



+ Show Spoiler +
The way I see it is that it was also an origin story for how he became the Kingpin we all know him as, and to cement him as Daredevil's arch-nemesis.
Like he was this romantic/kid who dreamed of a better partnership than that of his parents and the guy who wanted to improve the city he grew up in.
Meeting Vanessa, split him up in those two as Kingpin's partners mentioned.
By the end, he kinda got to have it all until Hoffman spilled the beans and he lost everything, and so he stops caring and becomes a 3rd person so to speak.
However, Daredevil shows up and I think he sort of becomes the embodiment of the things Fisk lost/were taken away from him. So to some extent I think while Daredevil's doing his thing in the city, it will be like having someone rub the total sum of Fisk's misery in his face.
I do find it interesting how Fisk looked at the prison wall as opposed to the paintings though,

I do see your point though. It would've been interesting to see Fisk escape after all that effort by Nelson & Murdock. I probably would've been clamoring for more.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 13 2015 16:40 GMT
#53
I like ep 1 of this show more than GoT s5ep1 :D
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 13 2015 17:01 GMT
#54
Yeah I definitely liked episode one of Daredevil more than GoT's premiere.

I like the release the whole season at once from a binge watching convenience, but it does make discussion about the show more difficult and some what less interesting. There is no speculation about what will happen next episode, or really breaking down individual episodes for a week like you do with a network show when you can watch them all back to back.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 13 2015 18:43 GMT
#55
On April 14 2015 02:01 karazax wrote:
Yeah I definitely liked episode one of Daredevil more than GoT's premiere.

I like the release the whole season at once from a binge watching convenience, but it does make discussion about the show more difficult and some what less interesting. There is no speculation about what will happen next episode, or really breaking down individual episodes for a week like you do with a network show when you can watch them all back to back.

True but I think individual DD episodes are not interesting enough to wait each week for them. They work well as a part of a whole season that you can watch in short time.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
April 13 2015 20:22 GMT
#56
Didn't read the comics, and got up to episode 6 so far. But is Daredevil really supposed to be this blatant of a ripoff of the dark knight portrayal of Batman?

Hell I joked to my girlfriend that he is more batlike than Batman with supersenses instead of sight. Anyway, many of the themes from Batman seem to play a similarly dominant role: whether killing is ever justified, what distinguishes the bad guy from the good guy, and the whole dark city theme (Gotham or Hell's Kitchen: both are portrayals of the seedy underbelly of New York). Now in Ep. 6 Fisk sets him up as the bad guy, it feels a lot like a rehash of Batman, but by Marvel instead of DC.

PS. This season of Arrow apparently also ran out of inspiration and are using Batman plots there too (but in a completely retarded way). So between that and this, Gotham is actually the least batmanny of the comic book series!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 20:30:05
April 13 2015 20:29 GMT
#57
DareDevil and Batman were both "reinvented" by Frank Miller in the 1980, so they have a lot in common. Both characters fill similar roles in the universe with different power sets(batman's being unlimited wealth). They mostly defend their city and try to deal with problems on a small scale, rather than fighting crime across the globe.

All of those heroes are referred to as "street level" super heroes and have a lot in common. They fight regular criminals, can get beat up by them and don't really go in heavy on "super powers" to solve their problems.
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 20:38:04
April 13 2015 20:36 GMT
#58
On April 14 2015 03:43 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 02:01 karazax wrote:
Yeah I definitely liked episode one of Daredevil more than GoT's premiere.

I like the release the whole season at once from a binge watching convenience, but it does make discussion about the show more difficult and some what less interesting. There is no speculation about what will happen next episode, or really breaking down individual episodes for a week like you do with a network show when you can watch them all back to back.

True but I think individual DD episodes are not interesting enough to wait each week for them. They work well as a part of a whole season that you can watch in short time.



I don't think that they aren't interesting enough. It would be more difficult for casual viewers to keep up with with a week delay though. Doesn't really matter since it isn't going to change. It's just harder for me to remember all the details of each individual episode for discussion after the fact when I watch all 13 in a day or two, and it's harder to say how long it's appropriate to spoiler tag details.

More thoughts from the entire series:
+ Show Spoiler +
I liked the introduction of Stick and build up there. Loved when Matt came face to face with Fisk in the art gallery. Loved the ninja fight vs Nobu in episode 9. Was pretty surprised when Fisk showed up right after Murdock barely survived and then gets discovered by Foggy. I like that Karen flirts some with Foggy, but they didn't go for the stereotypical love triangle. Karen has her own agenda and drive. Karen shooting Wesley was pretty surprising too, and not getting scooped up or even discovered, nor sharing what she did with anyone. Foggy does a great job in the series as a side kick with charisma and humor and likeable enough that even when he is anti-Daredevil, you can empathize with his side. Lots of Marvel universe tie ins in the show. From Karl Crusher Creel, the absorbing man, fighting Matt's dad, to the "Greek girl" Matt dated in college (Electra), to Roxxon Oil, Van Lundt Real estate. Father Lantom is a reoccurring priest in the Marvel universe, working with Cloak and Dagger among others. When the show mentions Kingpin taking over Rigoletto's books, they are giving a nod to the comic origins. Don Rigoletto was a mob boss who first hired Fisk as his bodyguard and enforcer, before Fisk took his life – and his criminal empire along with it. Leland Owlsley is the villain the Owl in the comics. We shall see if he really died from that fall. The markings on the heroine is the symbol on the chest of Iron Fist villain Steel Serpent. St Agnes orphanage is the same one that Skye from Agents of SHIELD was at.

A cameo on the wall for Stan Lee
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The only other nitpick that comes to mind is the finale and Fisk allowing himself to be arrested and then arranging the gunning down of his escort into custody with a plan to drive to the helicopter to be flown out. Why allow yourself to be arrested in the first place if you have men on the inside? Maybe he didn't have time to plan his escape before they arrived, but if so then how did he have time to plan the break out and get his men on the inside? Did he whisper to Vanessa to plan that escape? Seems like something that would take a lot more planning than a 5 second whisper would allow for. Why not have the helicopter come to him? It's based on a comic book so none of those nitpicks ruined it for me, but it did stretch the lines of logic in a show that generally approached things in a fairly logical fashion.

I suspect that Madame Gao and Stick will make a reappearance in Iron Fist. Loved the red costume. Overall the season was great and I'm looking forward to more.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
April 14 2015 01:30 GMT
#59
I'm super enjoying this show at the moment, made it to E5.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 14 2015 10:45 GMT
#60
Finished Ep 7. This is probably one of my favorite shows now. Soooo good. Main character is super badass, and Kingpin is amazing as well. I wish the other Marvel series lived up to this.
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