EPTTeam Liquid Discussion - Page 76
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Aurrius
Germany120 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
KuRiki will (blink)strike again! | ||
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Gear 3rd
1244 Posts
Then liquid can sneak beside them and get those dollarz | ||
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Aurrius
Germany120 Posts
The Main Problem that i see is that in terms of the Draft that Kuroky tries too often to pick the same Heroes over and over again (at Manila Slardar) and today it was Riki. And if this not work Liquid will just lose the Series with maybe a Score of 1-2 or 1-3 It feels like that the Hero Pool is too limited for Liquid to change their Draft but there are over 111 Heroes in the Game. | ||
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Nikto
Slovakia410 Posts
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 20 2016 04:37 Nikto wrote: man some of you guys only see the negative and this vibe of Liquid can't beat OG is I don't know how to put it, it amazes me to read this crap really, execution stopped them from winning 2:0 against OG, and even in game 3 they go mid ddrop a sentry see there is a sentry (try to deward, unsuccesfully) riki gets killed in the process MC retreats and then comes the clown I have no words for matu's performance in game 3 early game other than this and feeds (look at my shiny new shadow blade) even though Liquid knew the sentri is still there, into another kill on top for OG and this got them back into game 3, so come back once you are done with Liquid can't beat OG, they beat themselves today again This , OG are not that much better then liquid, they are on the same level or like 55/45 | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On June 20 2016 04:30 Aurrius wrote: Even if Fly is saying that they respect Liquid and Newbee, i dont think that Liquid can beat them now and maybe at TI6. The Main Problem that i see is that in terms of the Draft that Kuroky tries too often to pick the same Heroes over and over again (at Manila Slardar) and today it was Riki. And if this not work Liquid will just lose the Series with maybe a Score of 1-2 or 1-3 It feels like that the Hero Pool is too limited for Liquid to change their Draft but there are over 111 Heroes in the Game. Eh? I'm pretty sure they went with standard draft because they didn't want to reveal much. Or plain didn't practice it yet and the team did run out of steam in Manilla after the crammed final day schedule and forced focus on Newbee. This tournament is pretty much meaningless besides meta and practice considerations when it's between Major and TI. I'd be shocked if Kuro makes the same cockup like he let S4 do at Secret that S4 keeps doing over and over again over at Alliance and won't have some curve ball picks ready. The boys have already shown they have the balls to go there and completely 180 their draft against Newbee in game 3 when it mattered the most | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
The invites are the following: OG Team Liquid Newbee LGD Gaming MVP Phoenix Natus Vincere time for animestory-esque fighting back OG to win 3-2 in the grand finals at TI official link: http://www.dota2.com/international/announcement | ||
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4tre55
Germany330 Posts
On June 20 2016 04:30 Aurrius wrote: Even if Fly is saying that they respect Liquid and Newbee, i dont think that Liquid can beat them now and maybe at TI6. The Main Problem that i see is that in terms of the Draft that Kuroky tries too often to pick the same Heroes over and over again (at Manila Slardar) and today it was Riki. And if this not work Liquid will just lose the Series with maybe a Score of 1-2 or 1-3 It feels like that the Hero Pool is too limited for Liquid to change their Draft but there are over 111 Heroes in the Game. I really don't know where you are comming from, but if they hadn't done that stupid 2man rosh in game two Liquid was clearly way ahead after outplaying OG for a good 20 minutes. So hwo was that draft not working and how didn't they have a chance to (until that point very convincingly) win a series vs OG? | ||
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CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
OG right now has the edge but we saw how close Liquid came to beating them. It should be a great rivalry going into TI6. And Liquid should be motivated as hell to get even better. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On June 20 2016 07:32 4tre55 wrote: but if they hadn't done that stupid 2man rosh in game two Liquid was clearly way ahead after outplaying OG for a good 20 minutes. So hwo was that draft not working and how didn't they have a chance to (until that point very convincingly) win a series vs OG? Because of Liquid's draft, they had to outplay OG not for 20 minutes, they had to outplay OG in every fight pretty much all game long. And you can't count on outplaying OG every fight, even with a big material advantage. You're going to make mistakes, because everyone makes mistakes. Liquid knows perfectly well how the Lycan/BM draft plays out, they have done the same thing themselves so many times - fail to make impact early, be on the back foot, then win one fight and bye bye rax. That said, there's one thing that's not excusable by drafts, and that's Liquid's tendency to just go in and fight after OG gets a free pickoff. They have done that in Manila, and they did it again yesterday, just go in one at a time and die. In fact there was even a moment when Jerax and MC tried to 2v5 the enemy team, and even though that almost worked out you just don't do that kind of shit against a top team. | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
This one is the one that matters we WILL take it! | ||
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Gear 3rd
1244 Posts
On June 20 2016 18:46 NInoff wrote: That was a strategic move - now all eyes are on OG, everyone will prepare for them. We will have easier time in TI6. This one is the one that matters we WILL take it! Just as I said above. Intentionally or not the same happened with the eg secret rivalry | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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ratedBlade
Canada33 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 20 2016 19:03 Gear 3rd wrote: Just as I said above. Intentionally or not the same happened with the eg secret rivalry I think that there is a big difference between the two. Secret imploded. They had terrible team chemistry and some of the teammates just hated one another. That was a major factor in their utter failure at the last TI. OG, on the other token, is seemingly going to become one of the most stable rosters out there. There hasn't even been a hint that they will be changing any time soon. I wouldn't expect them to implode like Secret did... At least not in that fashion. They've already proven their resilience by winning a major, going through a short slump, and then winning another while maintaining their roster. In this day of constant swapping that's pretty impressive. That said Liquid is definitely as skilled as OG and I look forward to their matches. | ||
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
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