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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On October 27 2013 10:46 Sub40APM wrote: if only youd trade for a strong goalie by giving up yakupov to even out. but now, keep stacking those 1st rounders. That would be quite the evening out. Easily losing 4-5 turn overs a game alone would help :p Too bad Connor McDavid isn't gonna make this draft  | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On October 27 2013 11:25 Blisse wrote: can someone explain to me where did Steen come from and why Toronto traded him ugh. He's been on St. Louis for like 5 years and has always been a 40-50 point player...? | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On October 27 2013 11:32 GolemMadness wrote: He's been on St. Louis for like 5 years and has always been a 40-50 point player...? We always knew he had high potential in Toronto, but it wasn't easy for Toronto Draft Picks in the Cliff Fletcher/Pat Quinn eras. It was very rare for them to see any ice-time in those days. Sure, Pat Quinn had a thing for guys like Nik Antropov and Alexei Ponikarovsky but there was always nagging questions about their development. >_< We rarely kept guys. At least our system is much better, but under the new policy it's really hard to keep players regardless. On October 27 2013 10:53 Sunaj wrote: Pretty much, I just hope that over the next couple of years, we jettison some of smurfs. I mean, I love Pleks, I like Gio, I don't mind Briere or Desharnais, I'd be happy to have 1-2 *preferably 1* in our top 6, but having all 4 is just......bad. I think you guys could do without Gionta. I like Pleks too but he always gets injured. He's as injury prone as Lupul, but he still produces when he's in the line-up. Briere was a stupid signing (I know how much people love Vincent Lecavalier in those parts too, but he isn't the answer either). Their glory days are over. | ||
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Sub40APM
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
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Sunaj
Canada2041 Posts
On October 27 2013 15:27 StarStruck wrote: We always knew he had high potential in Toronto, but it wasn't easy for Toronto Draft Picks in the Cliff Fletcher/Pat Quinn eras. It was very rare for them to see any ice-time in those days. Sure, Pat Quinn had a thing for guys like Nik Antropov and Alexei Ponikarovsky but there was always nagging questions about their development. >_< We rarely kept guys. At least our system is much better, but under the new policy it's really hard to keep players regardless. I think you guys could do without Gionta. I like Pleks too but he always gets injured. He's as injury prone as Lupul, but he still produces when he's in the line-up. Briere was a stupid signing (I know how much people love Vincent Lecavalier in those parts too, but he isn't the answer either). Their glory days are over. Yeah, Pleks problem is Koivu's problem, he's our most consistent forward by far, so he does 1A center, PP, PK, dude is a workhorse, and he's stuck with Gio/Bourque >.>. Briere was dumb as shit, if we had to go get a French guy, I'd of rathered Vinny *really preferred neither but*, at least Vinny isn't another smurf, and maybe coulda helped Desharnais/Patches a little more, at the very least, he can't be worse then Briere. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
for Lecavalier, he got old very quickly. He got to a thousand nhl games at age 31. I agree he had a ridiculous contract though lol. And I dont get how Plekanec is injury prone. The guy hasnt missed more than 5 games in a season since 2006-07. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 27 2013 06:27 Orcasgt24 wrote: Does Eakins have any idea what the hell he is doing? I have never seen a coach pull a goalie because of goals allowed and then send him right back in one shift later like a line change... Apparently, Dubnyk Sprained his ankle on the way to the net in Pheonix. -.- He injured. Apparently the hockey gods hate edmonton. Our Injured reserve list: Taylor Hall Sam Gagner Ryan Hamilton Jesse Joensuu Tyler Pitlick Ryan Smyth Corey Potter Denis Grebeshkov Devan Dubnyk In before the Oilers set a new record for man-games lost again like they did the first year they finished 30th. Like ffs, our main guys get injured, and then the guys that come in to replace them hit the IR right afterwards. -.- | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On October 28 2013 05:15 xDaunt wrote: The Sharks snagged the best player from that Tampa Bay cup team -- Boyle. That trade is almost highway robbery in retrospect. Carle + Wishart + and 1st. The best player from that team is indisputable St. Louis. The guy is a legend considering how he was treated on the way into the league and how tiny he is and how old he is. | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
On October 28 2013 01:27 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: Gionturd is getting old and all the sauce he had to do to get his body primed for the nhl is catching up to him. theyll dump him to the curb after the season. for Lecavalier, he got old very quickly. He got to a thousand nhl games at age 31. I agree he had a ridiculous contract though lol. And I dont get how Plekanec is injury prone. The guy hasnt missed more than 5 games in a season since 2006-07. and yes plek rarely gets injured :D, maybe he was thinking of pacioretty? and tbh pacioretty isnt injury prone or anything, the only time he was really injured was when chara nearly killed him, its a miracle that hes still playing. he got injured a few games ago(as far as i can recall its his first "flimsy-esque" injury) but it wasnt anything serious, hes out for like 2 weeks | ||
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sharkeyanti
United States1273 Posts
On October 28 2013 05:15 xDaunt wrote: The Sharks snagged the best player from that Tampa Bay cup team -- Boyle. That trade is almost highway robbery in retrospect. Carle + Wishart + and 1st. Well, Carle is pretty fucking good. Because TBL traded him so quick to PHL, it was more like Boyle for Downie, Eminger, a 4th, Wishart, and a 1st. That's not the worst return, especially as Downie had a few good seasons for TBL. That said, they should have just kept Matt Carle, because he's awesome. That goes for TBL and PHI. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 28 2013 05:26 Sub40APM wrote: The best player from that team is indisputable St. Louis. The guy is a legend considering how he was treated on the way into the league and how tiny he is and how old he is. I dunno, during that 2004 era, I'd say Boyle was the best for sure. He has been a damn good defenceman for awhile. Boyle, as far as I am concerned was 100% the reason Brent Burns looked like a player for awhile there, similar to how Weber was only so good (not that he isn't really fucking good still, but he is no longer "potentially best defenceman to ever play the game" good) because he had a Suter pivot beside him (kind of like Jonas Brodin now.) Boyle can skate, hit, shoot, is solid defensively, has such great poise with the puck. People give a guy like PK Subban a ton of Credit, but if you take away all the flashy spin-a-rama's Boyles been doing that same thing for years. Thing is the Eastern media has no idea what it is talking about when it comes to the west because they are all tucked into bed by the time the western teams play. A good example of this is Calder voting, eastern teams ahve won that trophy about 80% of the time, and the western teams players that win are usually eastern west teams like Detroit/Minny/Columbus/Colorado. (Funny enough, three of those teams now in the east, and the other one wanted in the east so bad its not even funny...) | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 28 2013 05:46 Sub40APM wrote: I watch hockey on the West coast. Had the Sharks been able to afford to get St Louis/he wanted to go there they would have had a cup by now. I dont think so. The sharks always lost because despite always having a really solid 2 line attack, they have never had really solid depth on Forward in the sense that if you got rid of one of their lines, they couldn't score. Every year they've just ahd that one injury in the playoffs that killed their two line attack. For example, in 2006 after Torres head hunted Michalek, the Oilers just put Pronger on Thornton/Marleau/Cheechoo and the sharks couldn't score. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32084 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On October 28 2013 06:00 iCanada wrote: I dont think so. The sharks always lost because despite always having a really solid 2 line attack, they have never had really solid depth on Forward in the sense that if you got rid of one of their lines, they couldn't score. Every year they've just ahd that one injury in the playoffs that killed their two line attack. For example, in 2006 after Torres head hunted Michalek, the Oilers just put Pronger on Thornton/Marleau/Cheechoo and the sharks couldn't score. but they are one of the deepest teams on offense this year. Especially at the center position. | ||
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