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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 02 2017 19:24 GMT
#159681
On July 03 2017 01:57 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 01:33 nafta wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:07 micronesia wrote:
Every time he does something to push the envelop a bit more, I ask myself, what would he actually have to do to lose all mainstream support, especially from his 'own' party? Each unruly thing he does is slightly worse than the last, grooming society and our expectations so that he never seems to quite cross the red line of what is or is not completely unacceptable (kind of like how would-be racists groom potential victims). The way you stop discriminatory or harassing behavior in the workplace is to put your foot down the moment you see it rather than let it go 'this time' because it was only a very minor incident. If you as an average employee don't take an active role to stamp out that type of destructive behavior as it first develops, then you are nearly as guilty as the person doing whatever it is that is inappropriate. It seems to be taking republican leadership too long to realize that the president is creating a toxic environment that ultimately will be just as hurtful them and their objectives/agenda as to the government and the country as a whole.

It is quite interesting that a funny gif makes some people laugh and others post comments like this.This seems to be the biggest disconnect between both sides.


Even accepting the gif as a joke, it's a very fitting joke for Trump, even though he probably doesn't realize it. The big story of his campaign and presidency (so far) is the WWF match between him and the media. It's about as substantive as Trump himself gets.


People need to stop quoting Rick Wilson. The dude is a fraud.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4951 Posts
July 02 2017 19:32 GMT
#159682
On July 03 2017 04:24 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 01:57 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:33 nafta wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:07 micronesia wrote:
Every time he does something to push the envelop a bit more, I ask myself, what would he actually have to do to lose all mainstream support, especially from his 'own' party? Each unruly thing he does is slightly worse than the last, grooming society and our expectations so that he never seems to quite cross the red line of what is or is not completely unacceptable (kind of like how would-be racists groom potential victims). The way you stop discriminatory or harassing behavior in the workplace is to put your foot down the moment you see it rather than let it go 'this time' because it was only a very minor incident. If you as an average employee don't take an active role to stamp out that type of destructive behavior as it first develops, then you are nearly as guilty as the person doing whatever it is that is inappropriate. It seems to be taking republican leadership too long to realize that the president is creating a toxic environment that ultimately will be just as hurtful them and their objectives/agenda as to the government and the country as a whole.

It is quite interesting that a funny gif makes some people laugh and others post comments like this.This seems to be the biggest disconnect between both sides.


Even accepting the gif as a joke, it's a very fitting joke for Trump, even though he probably doesn't realize it. The big story of his campaign and presidency (so far) is the WWF match between him and the media. It's about as substantive as Trump himself gets.

https://twitter.com/therickwilson/status/881510905053315072

People need to stop quoting Rick Wilson. The dude is a fraud.


There are points to be made about discipline and what we'd be expecting if anyone else were president, but some people (like Wilson and John Schindler) seem to have been driven mad.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
July 02 2017 19:40 GMT
#159683
On July 03 2017 02:57 On_Slaught wrote:
I was certain Trump would push us towards either the Idiocracy timeline or the Mad Max one. Looks like the former has now become the dominant timeline probability.

But seriously, mental illness is no laughing matter!


Trump doesn't have mental illnesses.

What you get is a bunch of leftist getting upset that their leftist tactics didn't work on stopping Trump becoming president and their last ditch Russia shtick failed and now Trump is humiliating them.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8078 Posts
July 02 2017 19:46 GMT
#159684
On July 03 2017 04:40 RealityIsKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 02:57 On_Slaught wrote:
I was certain Trump would push us towards either the Idiocracy timeline or the Mad Max one. Looks like the former has now become the dominant timeline probability.

But seriously, mental illness is no laughing matter!


Trump doesn't have mental illnesses.

What you get is a bunch of leftist getting upset that their leftist tactics didn't work on stopping Trump becoming president and their last ditch Russia shtick failed and now Trump is humiliating them.

It's not a partisan issue to accept the fact the guy has some serious narcissistic issues and some very worrying personality disorders. Call it however you want but pretending it's business as usual or that giving the nuclear codes to this clown wasn't a terrible terrible terrible idea is just embarassing.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 02 2017 19:49 GMT
#159685
On July 03 2017 04:40 RealityIsKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 02:57 On_Slaught wrote:
I was certain Trump would push us towards either the Idiocracy timeline or the Mad Max one. Looks like the former has now become the dominant timeline probability.

But seriously, mental illness is no laughing matter!


Trump doesn't have mental illnesses.

What you get is a bunch of leftist getting upset that their leftist tactics didn't work on stopping Trump becoming president and their last ditch Russia shtick failed and now Trump is humiliating them.

there's no reason to give any credence to your ability to assess someone's mental health. especially given how bad your bias and blinders are.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
July 02 2017 19:59 GMT
#159686
I could moralize about how it's irresponsible for the president to encourage violence against his opponents. And I'd be right, but it wouldn't matter, because that reaction doesn't do anything anymore.

There are only two ways I can imagine someone seeing that tweet and thinking more positively about Trump for it. The first is if you legitimately favor violence against political opponents as a means of enacting change. The second is if you've divorced following politics from its actual real-world consequences, and you're now interested solely for entertainment. I suspect the latter is much more common than the former.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-02 20:02:46
July 02 2017 20:01 GMT
#159687
Like I've said before, I prefer Trump's active trolling of the media to W's constant pushover posture. Fuck CNN. They have thrown away their credibility to sink Trump, so Trump absolutely should rub their failure in their face.

Edit: And LOL at all of the people who think that Trump's tweet encourages violence.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 02 2017 20:04 GMT
#159688
On July 03 2017 04:32 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 04:24 xDaunt wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:57 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:33 nafta wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:07 micronesia wrote:
Every time he does something to push the envelop a bit more, I ask myself, what would he actually have to do to lose all mainstream support, especially from his 'own' party? Each unruly thing he does is slightly worse than the last, grooming society and our expectations so that he never seems to quite cross the red line of what is or is not completely unacceptable (kind of like how would-be racists groom potential victims). The way you stop discriminatory or harassing behavior in the workplace is to put your foot down the moment you see it rather than let it go 'this time' because it was only a very minor incident. If you as an average employee don't take an active role to stamp out that type of destructive behavior as it first develops, then you are nearly as guilty as the person doing whatever it is that is inappropriate. It seems to be taking republican leadership too long to realize that the president is creating a toxic environment that ultimately will be just as hurtful them and their objectives/agenda as to the government and the country as a whole.

It is quite interesting that a funny gif makes some people laugh and others post comments like this.This seems to be the biggest disconnect between both sides.


Even accepting the gif as a joke, it's a very fitting joke for Trump, even though he probably doesn't realize it. The big story of his campaign and presidency (so far) is the WWF match between him and the media. It's about as substantive as Trump himself gets.

https://twitter.com/therickwilson/status/881510905053315072

People need to stop quoting Rick Wilson. The dude is a fraud.


There are points to be made about discipline and what we'd be expecting if anyone else were president, but some people (like Wilson and John Schindler) seem to have been driven mad.


It may be fun to say that about anyone who points out the absurdity of voting for Donald Trump, but there's nothing outlandish about the points made.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
July 02 2017 20:06 GMT
#159689
On July 03 2017 04:49 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 04:40 RealityIsKing wrote:
On July 03 2017 02:57 On_Slaught wrote:
I was certain Trump would push us towards either the Idiocracy timeline or the Mad Max one. Looks like the former has now become the dominant timeline probability.

But seriously, mental illness is no laughing matter!


Trump doesn't have mental illnesses.

What you get is a bunch of leftist getting upset that their leftist tactics didn't work on stopping Trump becoming president and their last ditch Russia shtick failed and now Trump is humiliating them.

there's no reason to give any credence to your ability to assess someone's mental health. especially given how bad your bias and blinders are.


There are also no one who has conducted a diagnostic interview with Trump and declaring him mentally ill without one such is not only in bad taste, it is unethical and downright moronic. However, you of all people of course already knew that since it has already been substantiated multiple times throughout this thread.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-02 20:14:31
July 02 2017 20:13 GMT
#159690
On July 03 2017 05:06 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 04:49 zlefin wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:40 RealityIsKing wrote:
On July 03 2017 02:57 On_Slaught wrote:
I was certain Trump would push us towards either the Idiocracy timeline or the Mad Max one. Looks like the former has now become the dominant timeline probability.

But seriously, mental illness is no laughing matter!


Trump doesn't have mental illnesses.

What you get is a bunch of leftist getting upset that their leftist tactics didn't work on stopping Trump becoming president and their last ditch Russia shtick failed and now Trump is humiliating them.

there's no reason to give any credence to your ability to assess someone's mental health. especially given how bad your bias and blinders are.


There are also no one who has conducted a diagnostic interview with Trump and declaring him mentally ill without one such is not only in bad taste, it is unethical and downright moronic. However, you of all people of course already knew that since it has already been substantiated multiple times throughout this thread.

fortunately people only declare him probably mentally ill, not definitely (sometimes shorthanded ofc). also a big difference between a plausible suspicion, people talking on a forum, and a formal declaration which has actual weight.
and yes, I did already know that, so your interjection here seems unhelpful and pointless. It's not in bad taste to point out that the president likely has a mental illness and that some action taken on that would be appropriate. the problem lies with people hwo deny the possibility completely utterly ignoring the factual evidence. It'd be preferable of course if routine testing was always done on the president.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 02 2017 20:13 GMT
#159691
On July 03 2017 05:04 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 04:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:24 xDaunt wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:57 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:33 nafta wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:07 micronesia wrote:
Every time he does something to push the envelop a bit more, I ask myself, what would he actually have to do to lose all mainstream support, especially from his 'own' party? Each unruly thing he does is slightly worse than the last, grooming society and our expectations so that he never seems to quite cross the red line of what is or is not completely unacceptable (kind of like how would-be racists groom potential victims). The way you stop discriminatory or harassing behavior in the workplace is to put your foot down the moment you see it rather than let it go 'this time' because it was only a very minor incident. If you as an average employee don't take an active role to stamp out that type of destructive behavior as it first develops, then you are nearly as guilty as the person doing whatever it is that is inappropriate. It seems to be taking republican leadership too long to realize that the president is creating a toxic environment that ultimately will be just as hurtful them and their objectives/agenda as to the government and the country as a whole.

It is quite interesting that a funny gif makes some people laugh and others post comments like this.This seems to be the biggest disconnect between both sides.


Even accepting the gif as a joke, it's a very fitting joke for Trump, even though he probably doesn't realize it. The big story of his campaign and presidency (so far) is the WWF match between him and the media. It's about as substantive as Trump himself gets.

https://twitter.com/therickwilson/status/881510905053315072

People need to stop quoting Rick Wilson. The dude is a fraud.


There are points to be made about discipline and what we'd be expecting if anyone else were president, but some people (like Wilson and John Schindler) seem to have been driven mad.


It may be fun to say that about anyone who points out the absurdity of voting for Donald Trump, but there's nothing outlandish about the points made.

Actually, there is quite a bit that is outlandish with his points. He is completely whitewashing over the incompetence of both the current, sitting GOP congress and the utter failure of conservatives to legislate anything notable in a generation. I generally don't like the term "cuck," but it fits Rick Wilson to a tee.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-02 20:15:44
July 02 2017 20:15 GMT
#159692
On July 03 2017 05:13 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 05:04 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:24 xDaunt wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:57 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:33 nafta wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:07 micronesia wrote:
Every time he does something to push the envelop a bit more, I ask myself, what would he actually have to do to lose all mainstream support, especially from his 'own' party? Each unruly thing he does is slightly worse than the last, grooming society and our expectations so that he never seems to quite cross the red line of what is or is not completely unacceptable (kind of like how would-be racists groom potential victims). The way you stop discriminatory or harassing behavior in the workplace is to put your foot down the moment you see it rather than let it go 'this time' because it was only a very minor incident. If you as an average employee don't take an active role to stamp out that type of destructive behavior as it first develops, then you are nearly as guilty as the person doing whatever it is that is inappropriate. It seems to be taking republican leadership too long to realize that the president is creating a toxic environment that ultimately will be just as hurtful them and their objectives/agenda as to the government and the country as a whole.

It is quite interesting that a funny gif makes some people laugh and others post comments like this.This seems to be the biggest disconnect between both sides.


Even accepting the gif as a joke, it's a very fitting joke for Trump, even though he probably doesn't realize it. The big story of his campaign and presidency (so far) is the WWF match between him and the media. It's about as substantive as Trump himself gets.

https://twitter.com/therickwilson/status/881510905053315072

People need to stop quoting Rick Wilson. The dude is a fraud.


There are points to be made about discipline and what we'd be expecting if anyone else were president, but some people (like Wilson and John Schindler) seem to have been driven mad.


It may be fun to say that about anyone who points out the absurdity of voting for Donald Trump, but there's nothing outlandish about the points made.

Actually, there is quite a bit that is outlandish with his points. He is completely whitewashing over the incompetence of both the current, sitting GOP congress and the utter failure of conservatives to legislate anything notable in a generation. I generally don't like the term "cuck," but it fits Rick Wilson to a tee.

how would that be a reason to pick someone who's even LESS competent then the GOP congress and even less likely to legislate anything notable?
not that I'm defending rick wilson or his points at all.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 02 2017 20:18 GMT
#159693
On July 03 2017 05:15 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 05:13 xDaunt wrote:
On July 03 2017 05:04 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:24 xDaunt wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:57 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:33 nafta wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:07 micronesia wrote:
Every time he does something to push the envelop a bit more, I ask myself, what would he actually have to do to lose all mainstream support, especially from his 'own' party? Each unruly thing he does is slightly worse than the last, grooming society and our expectations so that he never seems to quite cross the red line of what is or is not completely unacceptable (kind of like how would-be racists groom potential victims). The way you stop discriminatory or harassing behavior in the workplace is to put your foot down the moment you see it rather than let it go 'this time' because it was only a very minor incident. If you as an average employee don't take an active role to stamp out that type of destructive behavior as it first develops, then you are nearly as guilty as the person doing whatever it is that is inappropriate. It seems to be taking republican leadership too long to realize that the president is creating a toxic environment that ultimately will be just as hurtful them and their objectives/agenda as to the government and the country as a whole.

It is quite interesting that a funny gif makes some people laugh and others post comments like this.This seems to be the biggest disconnect between both sides.


Even accepting the gif as a joke, it's a very fitting joke for Trump, even though he probably doesn't realize it. The big story of his campaign and presidency (so far) is the WWF match between him and the media. It's about as substantive as Trump himself gets.

https://twitter.com/therickwilson/status/881510905053315072

People need to stop quoting Rick Wilson. The dude is a fraud.


There are points to be made about discipline and what we'd be expecting if anyone else were president, but some people (like Wilson and John Schindler) seem to have been driven mad.


It may be fun to say that about anyone who points out the absurdity of voting for Donald Trump, but there's nothing outlandish about the points made.

Actually, there is quite a bit that is outlandish with his points. He is completely whitewashing over the incompetence of both the current, sitting GOP congress and the utter failure of conservatives to legislate anything notable in a generation. I generally don't like the term "cuck," but it fits Rick Wilson to a tee.

how would that be a reason to pick someone who's even LESS competent then the GOP congress and even less likely to legislate anything notable?
not that I'm defending rick wilson or his points at all.

Because the problem is not Trump. Trump isn't really that interested in drafting legislation. He will rubber stamp anything that the GOP congress gives him. That much should have been obvious when Trump went to bat for the GOP healthcare bill. The failure of the GOP to get anything done really has nothing to do with Trump.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-02 20:20:53
July 02 2017 20:18 GMT
#159694
On July 03 2017 05:13 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 05:04 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:24 xDaunt wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:57 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:33 nafta wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:07 micronesia wrote:
Every time he does something to push the envelop a bit more, I ask myself, what would he actually have to do to lose all mainstream support, especially from his 'own' party? Each unruly thing he does is slightly worse than the last, grooming society and our expectations so that he never seems to quite cross the red line of what is or is not completely unacceptable (kind of like how would-be racists groom potential victims). The way you stop discriminatory or harassing behavior in the workplace is to put your foot down the moment you see it rather than let it go 'this time' because it was only a very minor incident. If you as an average employee don't take an active role to stamp out that type of destructive behavior as it first develops, then you are nearly as guilty as the person doing whatever it is that is inappropriate. It seems to be taking republican leadership too long to realize that the president is creating a toxic environment that ultimately will be just as hurtful them and their objectives/agenda as to the government and the country as a whole.

It is quite interesting that a funny gif makes some people laugh and others post comments like this.This seems to be the biggest disconnect between both sides.


Even accepting the gif as a joke, it's a very fitting joke for Trump, even though he probably doesn't realize it. The big story of his campaign and presidency (so far) is the WWF match between him and the media. It's about as substantive as Trump himself gets.

https://twitter.com/therickwilson/status/881510905053315072

People need to stop quoting Rick Wilson. The dude is a fraud.


There are points to be made about discipline and what we'd be expecting if anyone else were president, but some people (like Wilson and John Schindler) seem to have been driven mad.


It may be fun to say that about anyone who points out the absurdity of voting for Donald Trump, but there's nothing outlandish about the points made.

Actually, there is quite a bit that is outlandish with his points. He is completely whitewashing over the incompetence of both the current, sitting GOP congress and the utter failure of conservatives to legislate anything notable in a generation. I generally don't like the term "cuck," but it fits Rick Wilson to a tee.


How about the last time the GOP had the presidency, House and Senate?

Also reports suggest that current Congress members are very frustrated with Trump's various distractions, his impulsivity and his lack of knowledge of healthcare.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-02 20:21:30
July 02 2017 20:20 GMT
#159695
The farthest I will go with Trump is that something seems off in the way he speaks when compared interviews from 10 years ago. People should avoid calling him mentally ill in general conversation or as an attack. Mental illness isn't something thrown around as an attack and Trump provides us all with more than enough ammo.

The CNN thing a gross. Unbecoming of the office and only stokes an already hostile public against the press as a whole. If people want companies like CNN to up their game and credibility, cheering for stuff like this isn't helpful.

Edit: trying to craft legislation without the input from the other party is a bad plan in general. The system is designed to prevent the exact thing the GOP is trying to do.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-02 20:20:44
July 02 2017 20:20 GMT
#159696
On July 02 2017 22:38 Luolis wrote:


Is this real life? :DDD

I gotta say, I'm laughing my ass off right now.

Checking Trump's twitter these last couple of days have just been a goldmine of hilarity.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
July 02 2017 20:25 GMT
#159697
On July 03 2017 05:18 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 05:15 zlefin wrote:
On July 03 2017 05:13 xDaunt wrote:
On July 03 2017 05:04 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:24 xDaunt wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:57 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:33 nafta wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:07 micronesia wrote:
Every time he does something to push the envelop a bit more, I ask myself, what would he actually have to do to lose all mainstream support, especially from his 'own' party? Each unruly thing he does is slightly worse than the last, grooming society and our expectations so that he never seems to quite cross the red line of what is or is not completely unacceptable (kind of like how would-be racists groom potential victims). The way you stop discriminatory or harassing behavior in the workplace is to put your foot down the moment you see it rather than let it go 'this time' because it was only a very minor incident. If you as an average employee don't take an active role to stamp out that type of destructive behavior as it first develops, then you are nearly as guilty as the person doing whatever it is that is inappropriate. It seems to be taking republican leadership too long to realize that the president is creating a toxic environment that ultimately will be just as hurtful them and their objectives/agenda as to the government and the country as a whole.

It is quite interesting that a funny gif makes some people laugh and others post comments like this.This seems to be the biggest disconnect between both sides.


Even accepting the gif as a joke, it's a very fitting joke for Trump, even though he probably doesn't realize it. The big story of his campaign and presidency (so far) is the WWF match between him and the media. It's about as substantive as Trump himself gets.

https://twitter.com/therickwilson/status/881510905053315072

People need to stop quoting Rick Wilson. The dude is a fraud.


There are points to be made about discipline and what we'd be expecting if anyone else were president, but some people (like Wilson and John Schindler) seem to have been driven mad.


It may be fun to say that about anyone who points out the absurdity of voting for Donald Trump, but there's nothing outlandish about the points made.

Actually, there is quite a bit that is outlandish with his points. He is completely whitewashing over the incompetence of both the current, sitting GOP congress and the utter failure of conservatives to legislate anything notable in a generation. I generally don't like the term "cuck," but it fits Rick Wilson to a tee.

how would that be a reason to pick someone who's even LESS competent then the GOP congress and even less likely to legislate anything notable?
not that I'm defending rick wilson or his points at all.

Because the problem is not Trump. Trump isn't really that interested in drafting legislation. He will rubber stamp anything that the GOP congress gives him. That much should have been obvious when Trump went to bat for the GOP healthcare bill. The failure of the GOP to get anything done really has nothing to do with Trump.

I still don't see how selecting someone more incompetent will make anything better.
I agree the GOP failure to get anything done has little to do with trump.
but it esems like selecting someone better, you might get someone who can do some decent wrangling to get stuff passed, which trump is clearly not capable of doing.
i.e. a better leader might be able to get something done.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 02 2017 20:25 GMT
#159698
On July 03 2017 05:18 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2017 05:13 xDaunt wrote:
On July 03 2017 05:04 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 03 2017 04:24 xDaunt wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:57 Doodsmack wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:33 nafta wrote:
On July 03 2017 01:07 micronesia wrote:
Every time he does something to push the envelop a bit more, I ask myself, what would he actually have to do to lose all mainstream support, especially from his 'own' party? Each unruly thing he does is slightly worse than the last, grooming society and our expectations so that he never seems to quite cross the red line of what is or is not completely unacceptable (kind of like how would-be racists groom potential victims). The way you stop discriminatory or harassing behavior in the workplace is to put your foot down the moment you see it rather than let it go 'this time' because it was only a very minor incident. If you as an average employee don't take an active role to stamp out that type of destructive behavior as it first develops, then you are nearly as guilty as the person doing whatever it is that is inappropriate. It seems to be taking republican leadership too long to realize that the president is creating a toxic environment that ultimately will be just as hurtful them and their objectives/agenda as to the government and the country as a whole.

It is quite interesting that a funny gif makes some people laugh and others post comments like this.This seems to be the biggest disconnect between both sides.


Even accepting the gif as a joke, it's a very fitting joke for Trump, even though he probably doesn't realize it. The big story of his campaign and presidency (so far) is the WWF match between him and the media. It's about as substantive as Trump himself gets.

https://twitter.com/therickwilson/status/881510905053315072

People need to stop quoting Rick Wilson. The dude is a fraud.


There are points to be made about discipline and what we'd be expecting if anyone else were president, but some people (like Wilson and John Schindler) seem to have been driven mad.


It may be fun to say that about anyone who points out the absurdity of voting for Donald Trump, but there's nothing outlandish about the points made.

Actually, there is quite a bit that is outlandish with his points. He is completely whitewashing over the incompetence of both the current, sitting GOP congress and the utter failure of conservatives to legislate anything notable in a generation. I generally don't like the term "cuck," but it fits Rick Wilson to a tee.


How about the last time the GOP had the presidency, House and Senate?

Also reports suggest that current Congress members are very frustrated with Trump's various distractions, his impulsivity and his lack of knowledge of healthcare.

W's presidency was an unequivocal disappointment for true conservatives.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28797 Posts
July 02 2017 20:37 GMT
#159699
that wrestling tweet is actually funny. does not encourage violence. showcases that you do indeed have a president who should be a WWF heel rather than president, which is disgraceful on its own, but this particular tweet is just funny, imo.

And it also reminds me of the funniest article I read all weekend.
Appalachian Wrestling's Greatest Villain: 'The Progressive Liberal'

Would donate a significant portion of my personal net worth to watch Trump get hit by The Liberal Agenda..
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ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
July 02 2017 20:41 GMT
#159700
On July 03 2017 05:01 xDaunt wrote:
Like I've said before, I prefer Trump's active trolling of the media to W's constant pushover posture. Fuck CNN. They have thrown away their credibility to sink Trump, so Trump absolutely should rub their failure in their face.

Edit: And LOL at all of the people who think that Trump's tweet encourages violence.

This is a bit rich from the guy who tried to pin the Congressional shooting on Democrats' extreme rhetoric. How much more blatant can you get than a video of you literally beating up your political opposition?
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
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