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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44013 Posts
5 hours ago
#801
On May 27 2026 07:30 TT1 wrote:
finals was hype cus it was 3-3 and it was funny cus Flash won every b.o battle, ultimately the gameplay wasnt the best tho

i dunno what Flash is clicking in that 8 rax vs 4p game, he miss rallies his rine out/doesnt change his rax rally point but his scv scout saw the lings coming, how do you not prioritize selecting ur rine the second it comes out to bring it behind ur wall and lift ur rax to make a full wall with 2nd depot?

like ya i get that his rine spawns outside in that location but my point is whats going through his mind and whats he prioritizing action-wise over selecting his rine and rax in that situation, theres nothing else to click (cus he completely forgets about his rine)

or in the last game why do u need to defend ur main when u know z is pure allin, theres no depots or anything in ur main anyways, ur depots are at ur nat and ur bunk/1 rax is there, just run scvs to nat and lift ur cc to ur nat.. why a move 4-5 slow rines out in the open vs speedlings trying to defend ur main? when u know speedlings are coming at u anyways from the front (not enough production to defend main + nat anyways, he only has enough production to defend 1 location)

just some really weird mistakes that u dont normally see Flash making, only explanation is that the mistakes were cus of nerves but those are very weird decision making and basic mechanics mistakes that u dont expect to see from him

and ofc i woulda like to see more valk/bio mix ups instead of purely going mech off his bo/eco leads, i wont complain too much about that tho cus that was part of his prep for w/e reason

Flash is the type of player who usually does a build and has every adjustment/response ready, even for the worst case scenarios like in those ling allin games in the 8 rax vs 4p game and the last game on matchpoint.. but it looked like he was completely caught off guard, like to the point where it looked like he never prepped to defend vs those builds in practice games.. u would think its impossible that he didnt prep for those scenarios but the way he reacted made it look like he didnt

on somas end his micro and mechanics were great as usual but his b.o prep was pretty bad, dunno why he didnt open pool first in the first games (or at least the 2nd game, we can give him a pass for Jane Doe cus its a non standard map) so he wouldnt fall behind in the mindgames vs cc first, he let Flash control the series b.o-wise cus of how the first few games played out, the funny thing is he still ended up winning the game he opened ovp vs 1 rax cc on Attitude (which is the scenario it looked like he was trying to avoid in the first few games)

The marine rally vs 4 pool had me shouting at the screen. Super weird mistake. It’s sloppy when you don’t update a factory rally point after pushing and a tank yolos across the map. It’s quite another when you literally only have one production building and one marine and you let it run across the map. His plan worked, two CC first into super fast defensive rax four pool, and yet he lost.
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Profile Joined December 2024
United States57 Posts
4 hours ago
#802
On May 27 2026 08:36 quaristice wrote:
something nobody has mentioned is that main minerals layout mines more efficiently than natural on that map, especially if soma mineral boosts at all (difficult at that stage in the game with everything else going on but obviously not impossible)


Cause man, that's just nonsense, that doesn't matter. Flash had more SCVs, that's all you need to know. And a bunker. Forget that it didn't cover the mineral line well and forget loading up the game and testing it! All Terran ever needs to do is turtle behind a bunker and no adversity is too great enough. Terran always can win, don't you know?
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1023 Posts
4 hours ago
#803
FlaSh had the build order advantage in all 7 games according to the jinjin videos and still soma made it, wow! I'm a new fan.

You can really tell FlaSh's wrist problems were in effect here though, the final SCV/marine micro was basically non-existent, and prior to that he had lost SCVs off-camera from no micro as well.

Caster Park saying ASL wins without FlaSh are only half-wins was funny but almost true, I'm glad soma showed that non-FlaSh players can still somewhat match his level.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26870 Posts
3 hours ago
#804
On May 27 2026 11:20 Freezard wrote:
FlaSh had the build order advantage in all 7 games according to the jinjin videos and still soma made it, wow! I'm a new fan.

You can really tell FlaSh's wrist problems were in effect here though, the final SCV/marine micro was basically non-existent, and prior to that he had lost SCVs off-camera from no micro as well.

Caster Park saying ASL wins without FlaSh are only half-wins was funny but almost true, I'm glad soma showed that non-FlaSh players can still somewhat match his level.

It felt to me Flash was doing a bit of a Mini in rolling the build dice and hoping to leverage big advantages that way.

I’ll trust the pro hivemind, as you say they thought Flash had the BO advantage most games.

Which I think makes Soma’s triumph that little bit more impressive! He didn’t just beat Flash, he beat him while having an opener deficit most games which is pretty darn solid
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6119 Posts
2 hours ago
#805
Soma had 4 drones mining. WTF was Flash doing, just evacuate the scv's to the natural and win

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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10425 Posts
2 hours ago
#806
On May 27 2026 13:12 Highways wrote:
Soma had 4 drones mining. WTF was Flash doing, just evacuate the scv's to the natural and win

[image loading]

Howd you get this photo and the replay file?
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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1529 Posts
2 hours ago
#807
On May 27 2026 13:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
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On May 27 2026 13:12 Highways wrote:
Soma had 4 drones mining. WTF was Flash doing, just evacuate the scv's to the natural and win

[image loading]

Howd you get this photo and the replay file?


its from 910's video. It has 1 drone in gas though
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10425 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-05-27 05:07:50
2 hours ago
#808
On May 27 2026 13:43 jinjin5000 wrote:
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On May 27 2026 13:36 FlaShFTW wrote:
On May 27 2026 13:12 Highways wrote:
Soma had 4 drones mining. WTF was Flash doing, just evacuate the scv's to the natural and win

[image loading]

Howd you get this photo and the replay file?


its from 910's video. It has 1 drone in gas though

Do you have the link?

Ah nvm I found it.
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Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden316 Posts
14 minutes ago
#809
On May 27 2026 05:51 FlaShFTW wrote:
Because you're literally just making things up.


We disagree on what "almost up" means in this specific context, that is not me just making things up.

There is no need to be as aggressive and unpleasant as you are. You could've told the correct details in a friendly way just as easily.

You also agree that the game was over for Flash when he GG'd don't you?

Yes. But I have never disputed that. Idk why people keep talking about this point when it's widely accepted that the game was over at the time of the GG call.
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As we agree on the conclusion, the specific timings isn't that important at that time. The game was over either way.

The point is that Soma had another hatch on the way which is a factor in why the game was over for Flash by then.
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