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Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 05:45:19
May 28 2012 19:21 GMT
#1621
edit: deleted
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
May 28 2012 19:48 GMT
#1622
This is the BW strategy forum o_O
I suggest you blog it.
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Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 05:45:35
May 28 2012 20:04 GMT
#1623
edit: deleted
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 20:04:07
May 28 2012 21:38 GMT
#1624
that would go in the "ask tl mods anything" thread
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
May 29 2012 02:55 GMT
#1625
Does anyone know how In_Dove is doing in SC2? I don't really follow SC2 but remember him streaming BW then switching over.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
May 29 2012 02:56 GMT
#1626
On May 29 2012 11:55 tryummm wrote:
Does anyone know how In_Dove is doing in SC2? I don't really follow SC2 but remember him streaming BW then switching over.

He stopped playing because of school.
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
May 29 2012 14:30 GMT
#1627
Is 9pool really a build order disadvatange against 2gate?
How can I still try to win in this scenario?
I try to hide an expo and try to catch up to his macro but with not very conclusive results...
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
May 29 2012 15:12 GMT
#1628
depends how early you scout the 2gate; it's a disadvantage but not an unwinnable one
if u see it coming threaten a backstab with your first 6 lings, it delays the 2gate from moving out and forces the P to leave some zealots behind
get up ur nat ASAP and keep up ling production until your nat finishes, then put down a sunken or two if necessary
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
May 29 2012 15:19 GMT
#1629
Can anybody give me some links for micro maps for P/T that are fairly easy?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
May 29 2012 15:26 GMT
#1630
check here under control > individual or control > solo
13Julia
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada231 Posts
May 29 2012 16:36 GMT
#1631
"Is 9pool really a build order disadvatange against 2gate?"

Definitely not. Rather an advantage. Maybe a 9 before ovi is a bit harder on eco and 9pool speed can be hard if your opponent decides to defend instead of moving out. Else, it's probably the best thing to play. Think about other possibilities, they aren't any better.
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 08:47:01
May 30 2012 08:46 GMT
#1632
There are a few types of 2 gate. 9-9 or 9-10 gate is very aggressive and border line all in. Protoss must do damage and will likely pull a few probes if they feel they must. On the other hand, 10-12 gate is an opening I used to play on python that can transition into several things reasonably and even allow you to push an economic advantage.

Using the 10-12 gate, I found that zergs who went 12 hatch posed the most trouble. I would try to prevent this with my probe scout, but if I was too late, then the creep would be up and sunkens made in time. I never really palyed around much with probe pulls, so maybe 2-3 probes could have tipped the balance there with good micro.

Against really early pools I feel protoss has every advantage. Your 1 hatch really can't keep up with the 2 gate production, and you wont have creep to set up static defenses. Protoss can zealot block you ramp if you don't take your nat, and then toss can do whatever he wants while you are stuck on 1 base and forced to tech.

Ideally, you want to use the fact that zerglings, even unupgraded, are faster than zealots. Try to have a few out on the map threatening to counter, so protoss has to leave zealots back. Also, try to pick off straggling zealots as zerglings do well against zealots in small numbers but don't scale well. In larger numbers surrounds are harder, and zealot micro is easier.

An oldschool build people did when 2 gating was more common is 9 hatch in the main. This opening is inefficient in many ways, but it gives you the production off 1 base to overwhelm 2 gate while not extending your defenses at all.
molotow
Profile Joined May 2012
Austria4 Posts
May 31 2012 14:11 GMT
#1633
Is the shift-command-queue somehow applyable to tanks in terms of sieging up/down?
kade
Profile Joined March 2011
94 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 16:47:23
May 31 2012 16:40 GMT
#1634
On May 31 2012 23:11 molotow wrote:
Is the shift-command-queue somehow applyable to tanks in terms of sieging up/down?


no, in SC2 it is
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
June 01 2012 02:47 GMT
#1635
Is the only way to play TvP on Python timing-push based? The third base is diabolically hard to secure!
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 01 2012 02:49 GMT
#1636
On June 01 2012 11:47 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Is the only way to play TvP on Python timing-push based? The third base is diabolically hard to secure!

you could try expanding towards P, so that you can cover bases as you push and at least not get flanked from behind.
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
June 01 2012 03:04 GMT
#1637
its hard to find reps and vods of modernish tvp's on python, but you don't have to push.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10403 Posts
June 01 2012 06:10 GMT
#1638
On June 01 2012 11:47 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Is the only way to play TvP on Python timing-push based? The third base is diabolically hard to secure!

If close positions with you at 9 and him at 7 you can always try 2 base pushing through the island and setting up your third there. Drop play seems to be pretty good overall in my experience due to large mains + walking distance.
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Operations
Profile Joined February 2012
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 11:53:40
June 01 2012 11:26 GMT
#1639
Whats the equivalent of iccup B rank before SCtoo in fish server these days?
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 01 2012 18:49 GMT
#1640
Is there anywhere I can get a quick briefing on the various servers available? Using ICCUP right now, but it's feeling a little barren.
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