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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 12:48:32
November 15 2011 12:48 GMT
#21
^ Please leave the thread open so people can at least have a way to talk about the games.

t.t
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 15 2011 12:49 GMT
#22
On November 15 2011 16:03 T.O.P. wrote:
This isn't as simple as, "We don't like sAviOr, please watch him on another site". There is no other site. TL is the site that broodwar players use to communicate with each other.

At least keep the "Savior plays BW games on Afreeca " thread open so people can post streaming links and the latest vods of sAviOr.


Agreed. There isn't any harm opening the thread and let us link/post streams/vods and talk about the games.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
November 15 2011 13:41 GMT
#23
I really cannot imagine how this discussion went in the admin forum. This isn't in the community of TL's interest, so why are only the few specific admins speaking for the whole community?
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
November 15 2011 13:43 GMT
#24
Maybe they think it's bad for esports?
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
November 15 2011 13:47 GMT
#25
maby someone could answer this for me: If SaviOr would start playing sc2 (not saying i would beleve it in eny way or even wish for it cuz i enjoy his sc1 streams, vid a LOT) would he be automaticly banned for SC2 esports aswell or is it just SC1.
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 15 2011 13:53 GMT
#26
On November 15 2011 22:47 gCgCrypto wrote:
maby someone could answer this for me: If SaviOr would start playing sc2 (not saying i would beleve it in eny way or even wish for it cuz i enjoy his sc1 streams, vid a LOT) would he be automaticly banned for SC2 esports aswell or is it just SC1.


He is banned from GOM (GSL) and future Kespa tournaments. I also think he would be banned from MLG also. (They are working with GOM)
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Fiel
Profile Joined March 2010
United States587 Posts
November 15 2011 14:01 GMT
#27
On November 15 2011 22:41 Garrl wrote:
I really cannot imagine how this discussion went in the admin forum. This isn't in the community of TL's interest, so why are only the few specific admins speaking for the whole community?


Because they're the admins? They can elect to include or not include the community at their discretion.

There are plenty of ways you can watch Savior's games.
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 14:13:25
November 15 2011 14:12 GMT
#28
Thanks grettin = ) Altho i dont agree with what he did it pains me deep in my heart that they decided to more or less ruin his passion, job and life for this one misstake. =S
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 15 2011 14:20 GMT
#29
On November 15 2011 23:12 gCgCrypto wrote:
Thanks grettin = ) Altho i dont agree with what he did it pains me deep in my heart that they decided to more or less ruin his passion, job and life for this one misstake. =S


No one but Savior himself decided to ruin his life, job and passion. You have to remember that gambling is also illegal in Korea, and you would be stupid to get involved in that.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
November 15 2011 14:22 GMT
#30
Not disagreeing with you, still its a pain for me and i still think it was too harsh to ban him for life time. i mean for matchfixing in other sport you get banned for a certain amount of years for the first time not for a lifetime. At least it made this not happen again, so other players got saved by savior in a way =)
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
November 15 2011 14:37 GMT
#31
http://www.infoplease.com/biography/var/peterose.html

Pete Rose was banned for life for gambling on his own games. They are thinking of possibly reinstating him after 22 years of being banned. I think this fits SaviOr's dilema pretty decently. He almost killed BW in Korea with this scandal, it is hard to forgive someone for that.
Brood War forever!
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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 15 2011 14:51 GMT
#32
Wow, I actually thought that for whatever reason watching Savior's stream was simply impossible. I would certainly have appreciated a thread warning saying: "Because of Savior's actions, we will not allow him to be streamed on this site." That said, I don't disagree with the decision.
CPUjockey
Profile Joined September 2011
United States12 Posts
November 15 2011 14:55 GMT
#33
soooo, why cant we give him a second chance, i think the 4 years he has been banned from kespa and stuff is definitely making this d00d sad. in addition, everyone deserves a second chance no? i think it is somewhat short sighted to just ban him completely from TL streamers as its just a proverbial slap in the face. does this mean TL has their hands in kespa? controlled by corporate intrests? where is the 99% of bronzers and silvers that would go to TL office and occupy untill our fallen savior has come backeth? jk. But seriously, i do not see why he should be banned, if the man @#$%! up 4 years ago he should be given the chance to redeem himself. If sports has anything over e-sports right now it would be drama! that's what e-sports is lacking is the tale of heros and villians. Kinda like wrestling but with nerd ballers.

Alas, im done my rant. Warn me for my post and i will be done with my rant.

ty, gl hf

The Jello Man

User was temp banned for this post.
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
November 15 2011 15:09 GMT
#34
On November 15 2011 21:49 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 16:03 T.O.P. wrote:
This isn't as simple as, "We don't like sAviOr, please watch him on another site". There is no other site. TL is the site that broodwar players use to communicate with each other.

At least keep the "Savior plays BW games on Afreeca " thread open so people can post streaming links and the latest vods of sAviOr.


Agreed. There isn't any harm opening the thread and let us link/post streams/vods and talk about the games.

This is my opinion as well, but I recognize that we're probably not going to change their minds.
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
November 15 2011 15:10 GMT
#35
On November 15 2011 23:55 ieatjello wrote:
soooo, why cant we give him a second chance, i think the 4 years he has been banned from kespa and stuff is definitely making this d00d sad. in addition, everyone deserves a second chance no? i think it is somewhat short sighted to just ban him completely from TL streamers as its just a proverbial slap in the face. does this mean TL has their hands in kespa? controlled by corporate intrests? where is the 99% of bronzers and silvers that would go to TL office and occupy untill our fallen savior has come backeth? jk. But seriously, i do not see why he should be banned, if the man @#$%! up 4 years ago he should be given the chance to redeem himself. If sports has anything over e-sports right now it would be drama! that's what e-sports is lacking is the tale of heros and villians. Kinda like wrestling but with nerd ballers.

Alas, im done my rant. Warn me for my post and i will be done with my rant.

ty, gl hf

The Jello Man

He was banned by Kespa like one year ago, I don't know where you have that wrong information from. Oh, and if you didn't notice it yet: Wrestling is artificial. Those "villains" aren't really bad.
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Modesty00
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 15:18:10
November 15 2011 15:13 GMT
#36
LOl this is total crap. Im sure 1 admin hate savior and all others follow him cuz they probably have no soul or balls. I understand to be unfeatured streaming him, but not visible at all WTF u crazy?? This is best zerg player around streaming omg. " u can stream him just not in TL, ur stream need to be offline" WTF u morons that's mean u cant stream him here... How we suppouse to know when and who stream savior,... fucking ** * ** **

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terence158
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia64 Posts
November 15 2011 15:13 GMT
#37
On November 15 2011 23:55 ieatjello wrote:
If sports has anything over e-sports right now it would be drama! that's what e-sports is lacking is the tale of heros and villians. Kinda like wrestling but with nerd ballers.

The Jello Man


in every sport, if you are caught match fixing, your name is mud and you will never be play professionally again.

match fixing does not fall under the heading of 'villain' in that sense. it falls under the category of 'illegal and bannable offense'

i don't see why it should be any different for esports. streaming is one way for pros to make money, someone who match fixes should never be able to make money from that sport again, and severe punishment discourages others from following in their footsteps.
CPUjockey
Profile Joined September 2011
United States12 Posts
November 15 2011 15:20 GMT
#38
On November 16 2011 00:13 terence158 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 23:55 ieatjello wrote:
If sports has anything over e-sports right now it would be drama! that's what e-sports is lacking is the tale of heros and villians. Kinda like wrestling but with nerd ballers.

The Jello Man


in every sport, if you are caught match fixing, your name is mud and you will never be play professionally again.

match fixing does not fall under the heading of 'villain' in that sense. it falls under the category of 'illegal and bannable offense'

i don't see why it should be any different for esports. streaming is one way for pros to make money, someone who match fixes should never be able to make money from that sport again, and severe punishment discourages others from following in their footsteps.


You diddnt really understand what i said, him streaming is not playing professionally. TL just let this man stream.
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CPUjockey
Profile Joined September 2011
United States12 Posts
November 15 2011 15:22 GMT
#39
How about this gents, I will hold a charity event, im going to invite savior and some other bw bosses. Can i stream it on TL?


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ToTcH
Profile Joined June 2010
Switzerland27 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 15:29:45
November 15 2011 15:29 GMT
#40
On November 16 2011 00:22 ieatjello wrote:
How about this gents, I will hold a charity event, im going to invite savior and some other bw bosses. Can i stream it on TL?




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