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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On April 18 2011 07:17 Sneakyz wrote: Some cheap garden gloves work pretty decent. Try to avoid the gloves.... it can actually make your grip a bit weaker because it adds another centimeter or so to the diameter of the bar | ||
Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
On April 18 2011 07:25 eshlow wrote: Try to avoid the gloves.... it can actually make your grip a bit weaker because it adds another centimeter or so to the diameter of the bar If you say so, that's only what i've heard, haven't tried it myself. Wouldn't add more than like 2mm at most to the diameter though, so i assume we mean different kind of gloves. I just use straps when i lift heavy . | ||
sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
On April 18 2011 07:57 sJarl wrote: Or you could use mixed grip for heavy deadlifts and work on your grip so it doesn't affect you in other lifts. I'm more of the opinion that you train back to develop your back, not grip strength. But i know the opinion on straps is kind of split. | ||
sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
I just took 2-3 weeks to get my grip from absolutely terrible up to workable by adding some gripping exercices at the end of every other workout. That said, I love straps on specific exercices like power shrugs and stiff-legged deadlifts. | ||
Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
Ok to eat two of those or so or should i skip it | ||
Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On April 18 2011 08:32 Kickstart wrote: K so parents are grilling out these sausages from sams club that i fucking love but i dunno if its paleo ok or if i should skip it and just cook my own dinner (ive been strictly making my own food each meal). They threw away the label with the ingredients and stuff but i found them online i think: yummmmmmmm Ok to eat two of those or so or should i skip it just eat it... | ||
eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Some more on the weight loss stuff: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2011/04/obesity-and-fluid-in-fluid-out-therapy.html | ||
maliceee
United States634 Posts
On April 17 2011 19:35 Zafrumi wrote: cardio is very much overrated (and basically a waste of time if you are on a good lifting program like starting strength). it should be obvious that strength training will help you build muscle and lose fat more so than any cardio program does, shouldnt it? I mean, if you do tons of cardio, you might lose the fat, but you will be a skinny kid with no strength whatsoever. you can add some cardio (like 10-15 minutes at the end) to your lifting program, just be aware that you might not progress as fast because you are "taking away" strength from your lifts, if you know what I mean. yes, stay away from flour for super strict paleo. personally, I still use it on occasion to make sauces are you working for blizzard by any chance? or why are you in france ^^ Shouldn't that depend on what type of cardio? sprints and sprinting intervals are great for losing fat fast while retaining strength. | ||
eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Sprints and HIIT are referred to as sprints and HIIT... At least that's what we've been saying when we talk in this thread | ||
GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On April 18 2011 11:08 maliceee wrote: Shouldn't that depend on what type of cardio? sprints and sprinting intervals are great for losing fat fast while retaining strength. Agree on cardio being overrated. HIIT is very effective on the other hand, but if you are able to do both HIIT and weights, u are either not lifting enough, getting overtrained pretty soon, or taking steroids :p. I mean HIIT slows ur recovery time even more than regular cardio and there is no way u can add it into any sensible strength training program. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
I agree that I wouldn't be able to do both HIIT and new PR's in SS on the same day. I was doing something like that 1 year ago but I was definitely not pushing myself nearly as hard as I am today. | ||
Catch
United States616 Posts
On April 18 2011 12:11 GoTuNk! wrote: Agree on cardio being overrated. HIIT is very effective on the other hand, but if you are able to do both HIIT and weights, u are either not lifting enough, getting overtrained pretty soon, or taking steroids :p. I mean HIIT slows ur recovery time even more than regular cardio and there is no way u can add it into any sensible strength training program. I kinda disagree with this. If your talking about a four day split, in which one is either a HIIT/Sprint day OR you add a fourth conditioning day to a three day split, I think a sensible program could possibly compensate for this by having an medium/light day the workout following the HIIT day. Just because you can't go heavy all the time doesn't mean you can't still train adequately . When you add multiple HIIT sessions is when this becomes a problem as well. Just my .02... I don't even have much experience in this realm personally, so feel free to let me know if I'm wrong. | ||
JT
Canada24 Posts
I'm 28, 6'1, 187lbs or so. I've been an on and off lifter since I was about 20, but for the most part wasn't all that consistent and wasn't following very good or organized programs. I've also always played a lot of sports. I did starting strength for 2 months about a year ago and made good progress, but in the last year I've been on and off with weight training. I'm in pretty good shape, probably 12-13% bodyfat and fairly fit and athletic. But I'd like to get into fantastic shape this summer. If I just wanted to get strong and go for aesthetics as well, I know starting strength would be the way to go. The problem is that I looove to play sports and I want to do a lot of activities this summer that will expend energy. I do BJJ once or twice a week, play tons of basketball, play in a hardball league, I'm gonna do some mountain biking, etc etc. I also work as a server in a restaurant so I'm walking all day. I have a feeling that doing starting strength in combination would easily lead to overtraining, so I was wondering if you guys had any recommendations on what kind of strength training program to follow? Pavel Tsatsouline's "PTTP"? Any ideas would be very much appreciated. | ||
Froadac
United States6733 Posts
Also, regarding a purely cosmetic standpoint, do you guys have any advice for softening scars. The one on my back isn’t particularly pretty, but at least it has lightened. Despite putting Cocoa butter on the one on my neck for over a year and a half, it still is fairly red. It actually fluctuates with stress levels >.> So, what specific core, arm, and leg exercises should I be doing. Also neck exercises, although that’s getting really specialized. Less than attractive pictures of myself follow. If you want to look to hopefully help me, or to gawk, go ahead. + Show Spoiler + But specifically in terms of fitness, I just want baseline health. no superhuman lifting, just improving my posture, increasing core strength, and getting my arms and legs reasonably fit. People have said "do situps, do pushups." Just to make it clear, doctor said to NOT do situps, but that V sit kind of stuff was better. Also, some specifics, even if conservative would be nice, because I really have no idea AT ALL how much I should be doing. Even when I was more fit (like 13 or 14 lol) I just did sports and got fit, but I've fallen below that threshhold I'm really small, at 5'4" (Chill sized, lol) and 110 pounds. | ||
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On April 18 2011 15:02 Froadac wrote: So for those aware of my medical history I’ve had a lot of surgeries. All of which really hurt my ability to exercise, and really cut me up >.> I used to be fairly strong, was very athletic, but recently because my back has been bothering me a lot I haven’t. I went to a friend’s house, and their mom is a physical therapist. She said that I should do generally more activities to strengthen my back muscles to support my back. Depending on some of you health and fitness guys to give me some exercises to try. Probably relatively low stress stuff would eb good to start. I’ll probably see a PT in a couple months, but in the interim… Also, regarding a purely cosmetic standpoint, do you guys have any advice for softening scars. The one on my back isn’t particularly pretty, but at least it has lightened. Despite putting Cocoa butter on the one on my neck for over a year and a half, it still is fairly red. It actually fluctuates with stress levels >.> So, what specific core, arm, and leg exercises should I be doing. Also neck exercises, although that’s getting really specialized. Less than attractive pictures of myself follow. If you want to look to hopefully help me, or to gawk, go ahead. + Show Spoiler + But specifically in terms of fitness, I just want baseline health. no superhuman lifting, just improving my posture, increasing core strength, and getting my arms and legs reasonably fit. People have said "do situps, do pushups." Just to make it clear, doctor said to NOT do situps, but that V sit kind of stuff was better. Also, some specifics, even if conservative would be nice, because I really have no idea AT ALL how much I should be doing. Even when I was more fit (like 13 or 14 lol) I just did sports and got fit, but I've fallen below that threshhold I'm really small, at 5'4" (Chill sized, lol) and 110 pounds. I'm not really comfortable advising somebody not allowed to do even situps... Obviously it's nothing personal, but more that I worry about you getting injured from doing a movement that you shouldn't do. I mean, can you squat? Can you deadlift? Can you overhead press and/or bench press? This is really something that you have to discuss with your doctor. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On April 18 2011 12:53 Catch wrote: I kinda disagree with this. If your talking about a four day split, in which one is either a HIIT/Sprint day OR you add a fourth conditioning day to a three day split, I think a sensible program could possibly compensate for this by having an medium/light day the workout following the HIIT day. Just because you can't go heavy all the time doesn't mean you can't still train adequately . When you add multiple HIIT sessions is when this becomes a problem as well. Just my .02... I don't even have much experience in this realm personally, so feel free to let me know if I'm wrong. Meh that's kinda true, I agree. Some professional sprinters peform something like deadlifts, 2-3 sets of 2-3 reps with 5 min breaks 3 times a week; basically training for strength gains w/o adding mass and w/o building lactic acid. They even lift up to the knee and drop the weight at knee height to produce less stress on the body. Later they proceed to their regular training (aka sprinting). However if u are doing any kind of decent volume (aka enough to add muscle mass, like, 5x5 squats on mondays/thursdays) adding HIIT somewhere will most likely result in a harmstring pull. If u wanna mix em its just better to cycle 12 weeks of weights and then 4 weeks of HIIT or smth. | ||
GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On April 18 2011 14:57 JT wrote: I have a question in regards to weight training in combination with sports. I'm 28, 6'1, 187lbs or so. I've been an on and off lifter since I was about 20, but for the most part wasn't all that consistent and wasn't following very good or organized programs. I've also always played a lot of sports. I did starting strength for 2 months about a year ago and made good progress, but in the last year I've been on and off with weight training. I'm in pretty good shape, probably 12-13% bodyfat and fairly fit and athletic. But I'd like to get into fantastic shape this summer. If I just wanted to get strong and go for aesthetics as well, I know starting strength would be the way to go. The problem is that I looove to play sports and I want to do a lot of activities this summer that will expend energy. I do BJJ once or twice a week, play tons of basketball, play in a hardball league, I'm gonna do some mountain biking, etc etc. I also work as a server in a restaurant so I'm walking all day. I have a feeling that doing starting strength in combination would easily lead to overtraining, so I was wondering if you guys had any recommendations on what kind of strength training program to follow? Pavel Tsatsouline's "PTTP"? Any ideas would be very much appreciated. I'd recommend PTTP, but cutting down the volume to start. Like, instead of 5x2 a day perform 3x2 a day. That won't put up any mass but will make you stronger, perform better, and help you avoid injures. Later if you feel you can add some volume, proceed, but err on the caution side. | ||
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