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DystopiaX
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MightyAtom
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On March 07 2011 13:11 R A V wrote: Excellent blog hyung ^_^ My question: How much Korean does a foreigner need to be able to speak in order to have a relationship with a woman in Korea? As far as I understand they take english classes in school, so will they be able to speak enough english to have a relationship, or would some sort of "I'll speak korean half the time and you speak english half the time" deal be best? Also, you make it sound like Korean women are amazing in the bed room and I was wondering if you could touch on that a bit more. What exactly makes them so good? :3 Depends, like 10 years ago, if you couldn't speak Korean, you'd be generally fucked, but nowadays, even I'm amazed by how many women speak English in the night clubs. That being said, only the ones that can speak a bit of English will approach you, but generally if her English sucks, you will have to learn Korean if her English is ok, generally she will improve her English. But, to know absolutely no Korean is really hit and miss cause then you really need to meet someone who is quite comfortable in English and its not that common. Korean women are naturally gifted in the bedroom, regardless of experience because they are physically passionate women who will do anything with the man the love or if they are the kind of woman who loves random sex, even they will embrace that aspect as well. Also since they have hot bodies, well, of course its great. But I'd say, you can't peg women in Korea as pure or not, because there is such a range of women, some really beautiful and virgins even in the late 20's who save it for marriage and those who have had sex from 16 and enjoy a daily night life every day of the week. But, they don't generally have any sexual hang ups as long as its normal sex, if you do kinky things, they will think you are a pervert. But having sex all day multiple times, ok! I can't get into any more because I'm married and this is a public forum, but needless to say, these are generalizations, but I've found them to be true ^ ^ | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 07 2011 15:26 targ wrote: Hyung, My question is this: A few years back when I was in college, I had plastic surgery done, a double eyelid operation. People said it would look nice, so I did it. (I'm a guy btw). At that time I felt it looked nice, but now I partially regret it because it seemed not very "manly" to have done so. So now I feel a little shy to tell new friends or girls I date about it. Any advice? Don't tell new friends or girls, you did it, and that was your decision; not many men do it, but they have their reasons to, but its not something that makes you less of man to have done, so don't make a big deal of it, it you now so just be you. | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 07 2011 15:38 qdenser wrote: no questions, alcohol is poison though it kills brain cells Man will be man and drink responsibility but will not be scared to live life. | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 08 2011 02:21 zeks wrote: Hyung, How does one get over the feeling of inferiority? I often feel inadequate when I compare myself to other people my age (I'm 21). I work as a co-op at CGI (an IT consulting firm) as a Business Analyst which isn't too bad as some people would tell me, but when I look at people who work at banks, i-banks and consulting firms, I feel like why I only got this far in life when others are already 5 steps ahead. I have average studying habits I would say...about a B- cumulative average... How much harder do I need to work to achieve "greatness"? I don't know if I can sacrifice any more to go up a couple grade points. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just not talented enough for the good life... This applies not just to work but also to my hobbies and girls. I always feel as though I won't be liked because I'm lacking things as a man that would make me attractive - working at a good firm and making money, having a car, dressing well enough. A year ago, I had been out on a couple dates with this girl who was an Actuarial Analyst co-op when I was just working for the school. We hit it off pretty well but the more I thought about my job compared to hers I felt I wasn't good enough -- I guess I had too much pride and eventually I distanced myself away from her. I guess I'm starting to achieve those things (career/money) slowly but as I reach these "milestones" I realize I'm still missing so much stuff (ie. When I got my job at CGI I was maybe happy for 5 seconds...then I realize someone my age or younger is already at Manulife or Deutsche bank making more than I am). I'm unconfident and I feel like I'm never satisfied. Sorry for the long write up. I think I just need someone to slap some sense into me. #1 you're still young and its good you have a feeling like something is amiss #2 make up your mind that you want to achieve more, its not like they are smarter than you for getting in Deutsche bank or whatever, but they did work harder maybe. #3 get focus on a clear goal you want to achieve, just saying I want to be more successful, then that is fucking useless. Say you want to be the best in your division, in your rank, to get promoted by so and so time, Who cares what company you're at, what if you're the head of your division in 2 years? #4 There are no short cuts to greatness, it is a very deliberate step by step process. Decide to take those steps, no matter how small and painful or frustrating, don't compare yourself by defining yourself by your current position, but define yourself by your AMBITION. You're not a man without Ambition, but you don't become a man without the ability to do work as hard it needs to be achieve or strive for that ambition. I went back to Macau this past weekend and I'm not as overtly powerful as I use to be because I'm doing my own thing, but even though I've taken a step back from my short term position, its because my ambition. Nobody fucks with me thinking because I don't have an expense account anymore or that some salary men have more money in their pocket now, that somehow I'm lesser. No, I'm defined by my work ethic and ambition and no one can take that away from me. These are two factors which are not influenced by your background, your network your education etc, so don' t make any excuses, find your ambition and man up and get to work. | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 08 2011 15:02 DystopiaX wrote: Just thought of a question. You've talked a lot about how Koreans put a lot of emphasis into what university you go to/how much education you've had. How do they view "self-made" people, that is, people who haven't necessarily had a lot of education but end up being rich/successful anyway? It's extremely extremely rare for that to happen in Korea. The founder of Hyundai, sold his father's cows and made his way down to South Korea (from the northern east area of Korea), and started a mechanic's shop etc, but this was entirely different time in Korea's history; maybe being a self made man was possible up to the mid-80's, but you need to know that just because a family wasn't university educated and wasn't that wealthy didn't mean that they didn't come from a good scholarly background. In Korea we have a term for start-ups 'Venture companies', we don't generally use the word entrepreneur, but if you work for a venture company in Korea, its generally a negative connotation that you couldn't get into a better company when you first graduated. We more use the understanding of 'Salary man' or 'Owners' But its extremely rare for a salary man, no matter how successful, even as a CEO cross over to the owners side. There are 2 very famous venture companies that went big in Korea, NHN (Naver.com) and NCSoft (linage), but again, they were really really something of a miracle and it was because it was new sector of internet, but for traditional industries, extremely difficult. Also, once you become wealthy, you're not going to flaunt your humble beginnings because we don't have this 'proud to be working class' identity here. Again, the system in Korea is that extreme. There is a saying here in South Korea, if you don't graduate from high school, you're not even human. And even if you do graduate from a university that isn't prestigious at all, well getting into Samsung after graduation is like getting into Harvard. So unless you are some tech geek and talented, people wouldn't even associate with you and likely you wouldn't know the proper cultural protocol to do business without offending everyone as well. All success stories in Korea revolve around being poor, but working hard and getting into Seoul National University etc, they involve some educational pathway, and I can't think of even one example which as someone non educated making it successful after the 90s. A harsh reality of South Korea. | ||
SushilS
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MightyAtom
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On March 08 2011 19:21 SushilS wrote: Why is Plexa being such a weirdo and leaving suddenly? Hyung, please talk some sense into him! WE NEED HIM. Mans gotta do what a mans got to do, unless its a woman, then the hell if I know what they are doing. | ||
MisterD
Germany1338 Posts
On March 09 2011 00:53 MightyAtom wrote: Mans gotta do what a mans got to do, unless its a woman, then the hell if I know what they are doing. so whats with a man that once was a woman? or vice versa for that matter? :D | ||
milikan
United States67 Posts
I'm gunning hard in uni for an engineering degree, 4.0, working part time, looking for an internship this summer, almost not sleeping. I'm getting very emotionally drained with the lack of results; no job, doing mediocre in grades; how do I get motivated? | ||
Kutsuki
United States29 Posts
I am 25 years old and I am very lucky to have a good high paying job. I have been doing my best to invest my disposable income into things that hopefully will not depreciate in value such as a house, retirement plan, 2 business ventures, and a small amount into stocks. I am able to do all of this and still manage to save money every month. The problem is that I want to buy a brand new BMW 335i, lets say it cost 60k. I know that I could spend the 60k on something else that will be wiser and give me better returns because I know I only need a car works. However, I feel that it's a beautiful car and you are only (age) 20 once. What do you recommend? Do you think having a fancy luxurious car has it's benefits instead of just being a money sink? btw I think I can afford the car, 1.5k for the next 3 years. The car is 18% of my monthly take home income. | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On March 09 2011 07:42 Kutsuki wrote: Dear Hyung, I am 25 years old and I am very lucky to have a good high paying job. I have been doing my best to invest my disposable income into things that hopefully will not depreciate in value such as a house, retirement plan, 2 business ventures, and a small amount into stocks. I am able to do all of this and still manage to save money every month. The problem is that I want to buy a brand new BMW 335i, lets say it cost 60k. I know that I could spend the 60k on something else that will be wiser and give me better returns because I know I only need a car works. However, I feel that it's a beautiful car and you are only (age) 20 once. What do you recommend? Do you think having a fancy luxurious car has it's benefits instead of just being a money sink? btw I think I can afford the car, 1.5k for the next 3 years. The car is 18% of my monthly take home income. lol, get the friggin car | ||
MisterD
Germany1338 Posts
agree :D why would you save up more and more money if not to use it? if you want something and you can have it, get friggin happy with it! or would you really rather want it and not get it for the next five years? That's not just going to go away. | ||
DystopiaX
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GTR
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I was just wondering of your thoughts on this. I think this is a random girl who commited suicide after appearing on the oh-so-popular drama 'Boys over Flowers'. Korea is reeling with shock over the news that netizens have uncovered some names from Jang Ja Yeon’s 31 offenders. The late star’s handwritten letters were revealed a few days back, and reportedly, they contained a list naming the men she was forced to ‘host’. The alleged list reads as follows: CEO of Chosun Journal – Bang Sang Hoon Vice-President of Sports Chosun – Bang Myung Hoon Chosun Central Journal’s Director of Advertising – Lee Jae Young Chairman of Kolon – Lee Woong Ryeol Chairman of Lotte – Shin Kyuk Ho Former KBS PD, CEO of Olive 9 – Go Dae Hwa Producer (PD) of KBS’s “Geumji Ok Yeob” - Jun Chang Geun Producer (PD) for KBS, MBC, SBS – Jung Seho Producer (PD) for KBS’s “Boys Over Flowers” – Jun Gi Sang Broadcasting/Music PD of “Playful Kiss”, “Boys Over Flowers”, “Perfect Couple”, “Goong” – Song Byung Joon (Married actress Lee Seung Min in January of 2010) I'm not surprised with this, just surprised that this sort of stuff finally has 'media coverage'. Could you possibly shed some more light into this 'industry'? D: EDIT: On second thought, I wouldn't be surprised if this was all over-exaggerated by the media. | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 09 2011 03:33 MisterD wrote: so whats with a man that once was a woman? or vice versa for that matter? :D I have no idea, as long as they can live without regret, then good for them, I applaud their courage to live that way. | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 09 2011 05:39 milikan wrote: When you were working your ass off to build a new company, did you ever doubt yourself before the results came in? I'm gunning hard in uni for an engineering degree, 4.0, working part time, looking for an internship this summer, almost not sleeping. I'm getting very emotionally drained with the lack of results; no job, doing mediocre in grades; how do I get motivated? the results haven't come close to coming in yet, its really just been a couple of months or so since launch and I'm still in the preparation process for others. I still have a lot of doubts, every day, I don't push them away, I look at them. Sometimes I have doubts because I'm not working hard enough, so then I work harder. Sometime I have doubts because really my strategy is a bit off or not developed enough. Now, I'm old enough to know when I need to make adjustment or if I'm just reacting blindly, so if something is making me lose sleep after working hardcore for 3 days straight, I know there is an issue, and try to fix it. Things like doubt and loss of confidence are daily struggles when doing things you're not use to or dont have a safe net for. You need to believe in your ambition, that's it. Its what you want and just don't stop till you get there, work harder, work smarter, always keep improving yourself, do the same things that haven't worked AND do new approaches as well. A lot of times, we think we have pressed ourselves to the max, but we are limited because we have set expectations for ourselves that weren't immediately met. What if I said to you, change you expectation to 1000 failed applications before you get the job you want before you started this process, so at this point, you'd think, well damn, I've just applied for 45 internships, I'm still no where near what Atom said. And if you got the internship job at 70 then you'd have though you accomplished something awesome. So its about your own expectations of thinking thinks will immediately work out. If my business don't take off right away, I accept that, I have fund for 2 years to get it right, if I don't get it right in 2 years, well at that point, I'm likely to be depressed for a bit, but if I had an expectation to be rocking off on the 1st month, I'll have killed myself already. So gauge your expectations first and focus solely on your ambition, it will motivate you. Just know, that you commit yourself to your ambition, no matter how long it takes; and remember, there are other fuckers worse off than you AND they are getting these internships because they know they are 'losers' and keep on trying until it happens. Cause at your level, the difference between the losers and winners is minimal; it's more defined on your work ethic and determination. Say it with me. I am a Machine. now go and get it done and don't stop until it happens, you can fail 100 times, but you are a machine you will not stop until you get what you need because you will get it. | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 09 2011 07:42 Kutsuki wrote: Dear Hyung, I am 25 years old and I am very lucky to have a good high paying job. I have been doing my best to invest my disposable income into things that hopefully will not depreciate in value such as a house, retirement plan, 2 business ventures, and a small amount into stocks. I am able to do all of this and still manage to save money every month. The problem is that I want to buy a brand new BMW 335i, lets say it cost 60k. I know that I could spend the 60k on something else that will be wiser and give me better returns because I know I only need a car works. However, I feel that it's a beautiful car and you are only (age) 20 once. What do you recommend? Do you think having a fancy luxurious car has it's benefits instead of just being a money sink? btw I think I can afford the car, 1.5k for the next 3 years. The car is 18% of my monthly take home income. Now as a BMW owner myself, I have to ask you, do you want the car because you love to drive, or because its flashy? If you want the care because you love to drive, then I say, get a 320i (I don't know if they have that model anymore) and get it as a coupe. Should be somewhat cheaper but its a great car and sexy enough and its wonderful to drive (get it tuned up at a BMW specialised shop). Now if you want to be flashy; don't do it. Unless you are a deal maker or a senior management, lawyer where you need to get clients, save your cash and buy a 5 series instead and join the rank of real men who have made it and then maintain the hell out of the car like its your baby. I know a lot of finance guys in Asia, who kept on upgrade their living standards as their salaries when up and then it was 2008 and they were let go without any skills outside of finance and they were crying. Crying, wondering wtf they were going to do, especailly with a shit load of monthly payments which were nothing when they were making 18k a month, but where a lot with no cash flow and only 300k in savings. Now that ain't going happen again for the next 3-5 years, I''m pretty sure of that. That being said, I don't think its particularly necessary for a 335i over a 320i for driving experience and if you really wanna be flashly (which I think is fine), get a 5 series later. But honestly, getting a BMW providing you don't into an accident and maintain it very well (and don't get some weird colour), I think its personally a good buy as you can drive it for 5 -8 years and then sell it at that point. But if you're just 2 years away from getting a 5 series and marriage, and with a 5 series you can easily have it for 8-10 years, then wait a bit, get the 5 series. But all in all, i think you're in a great position but just think about, do you want the drive or the flash? The drive, go 320i coupe, the flash, wait and get a 5 after all, I'd think a flashy 3series are for rich university kids. | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On March 09 2011 13:23 GTR wrote: Hello hyung! I was just wondering of your thoughts on this. I think this is a random girl who commited suicide after appearing on the oh-so-popular drama 'Boys over Flowers'. I'm not surprised with this, just surprised that this sort of stuff finally has 'media coverage'. Could you possibly shed some more light into this 'industry'? D: EDIT: On second thought, I wouldn't be surprised if this was all over-exaggerated by the media. No,In my opinion, its all *quite plausible* and she wasn't a random girl; if you're really talented, you can get a sponsor right away so you don't need to go through this entire process, or else, she kind of got slotted for this role in her company because it is a bit extreme; and that is likely why she committed suicide, because its likely that other actresses didn't have to endure this much, but for her to name these names then commit suicide, its as real as it gets. For most Koreans outside of the upper social classes, they couldn't say if its real or not, but its like common gossip among those in the upper social wealthy classes in gangnam. The reason why it hasn't gone further, is because she calls out EXTREMELY EXTREMELY FUCKING EXTREMELY powerful people, like the top .00001% of powerful people. But Korea, for all its crapiness, when a statement is backed by suicide, its hard thing to stop as the suicide is statement, that they accuser had no motive to gain except for justice after death. | ||
Kutsuki
United States29 Posts
On March 10 2011 10:02 MightyAtom wrote: Now as a BMW owner myself, I have to ask you, do you want the car because you love to drive, or because its flashy? If you want the care because you love to drive, then I say, get a 320i (I don't know if they have that model anymore) and get it as a coupe. Should be somewhat cheaper but its a great car and sexy enough and its wonderful to drive (get it tuned up at a BMW specialised shop). Now if you want to be flashy; don't do it. Unless you are a deal maker or a senior management, lawyer where you need to get clients, save your cash and buy a 5 series instead and join the rank of real men who have made it and then maintain the hell out of the car like its your baby. I know a lot of finance guys in Asia, who kept on upgrade their living standards as their salaries when up and then it was 2008 and they were let go without any skills outside of finance and they were crying. Crying, wondering wtf they were going to do, especailly with a shit load of monthly payments which were nothing when they were making 18k a month, but where a lot with no cash flow and only 300k in savings. Now that ain't going happen again for the next 3-5 years, I''m pretty sure of that. That being said, I don't think its particularly necessary for a 335i over a 320i for driving experience and if you really wanna be flashly (which I think is fine), get a 5 series later. But honestly, getting a BMW providing you don't into an accident and maintain it very well (and don't get some weird colour), I think its personally a good buy as you can drive it for 5 -8 years and then sell it at that point. But if you're just 2 years away from getting a 5 series and marriage, and with a 5 series you can easily have it for 8-10 years, then wait a bit, get the 5 series. But all in all, i think you're in a great position but just think about, do you want the drive or the flash? The drive, go 320i coupe, the flash, wait and get a 5 after all, I'd think a flashy 3series are for rich university kids. Hyung, Thank you for your input. The main reason I want to get the car is to be flashy. I have test driven the M3 before but I decided against buying it because I felt I am too casual of a driver. I could not feel the difference in 100 horsepower or use it to the fullest potential. I am planning to get a 2011 white 335is (sport model) coupe with a black interior and fully loaded. As an engineer, I think my profession is recession proof, I should be able to make these payments and it'll be over in 3 years. I also have money invested in the right places so I should be safe if the unforeseen happens. I wanted to ask you how come you feel the 5 series is very manly and is a better show off car? I wanted a 3 series because I felt it screams youth and I wanted a 2 door coupe. I feel the 5 series is too big and feels like a luxury family sedan. Maybe it's possible I'm still thinking like a kid but I want to hear your opinion on this. Also, can you recommend me a nice pair of driving sunglasses that would look good on a young asian person driving a white bmw Thank you | ||
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