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When I look at this blog section,
I see a lot of young men who need guidance that only an older Korean brother can provide.
I reckon that every man, has a real man inside them, they just a good Hyung (older brother) to give em a good slap in the head.
Over the many years, I have been blessed with many great hyungs who gave me guidance and love as only a good hyung can, sometimes with looks of 'wtf where you thinking' coupled with a good kick in the ass or taking me out drinking to get wasted and just sympathize with me.
Don't expect me to be nice or get into some semantic argument with you or try to convince you.
I will tell you straight with true love between brothers and if you don't listen, then continue to be the pussy that you are.
If you ask, I will answer, and I will be your Hyung. ^^
*ReOpening of Thread*
MightyAtom in Zurich Jan 29, 2014
Hey,
I'm in Zurich right now, meetings etc. But since I am still jet lagged, I have 2 hours every morning to write before I start my actual work. So, while this thread is something like 3 years old or something, I said one day I'd re-open it. So it's open!
Please try to read through the thread first before asking me something, my thoughts haven't changed. I've been outside of Korean now for nearly 4 years, so maybe there are things different now; I mean even I have 2 kids now instead of 1 lol.
Last off, I will be sincere in my responses, give me some time to respond though because my schedule is far more busier than it's ever been and I'm not as robust as I use to be, it has been an extremely rough rough 3 years. I'm staying in Zurich until Monday, so you have until Monday evening to ask until I fly out and this thread gets locked again for another 3 years. ^^
But I do want to say...for those who think they don't need an older brother or that kind of figure, I'm not trying to be that for everyone and say, hey I know all, listen to me,-I'm not here because I need anyone's respect or need to feed my ego- reality is I have very very few close friends as a choice- but for those who need a hyung's advice, I will be your hyung here on TL for as much as I can be.
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my penis is huge... advice?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49653 Posts
if you go through a sogating(regular one not the marriage kind) and the girl still doen't have a clear opinion of you,how good is your chance for a real date?
well you did say its the korean kind...some thing has to be different.
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On February 22 2011 23:11 XenOsky- wrote:
my penis is huge... advice?
User was warned for this post
do you really need advice how you deal with your penis?
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On February 22 2011 23:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
if you go through a sogating(regular one not the marriage kind) and the girl still doen't have a clear opinion of you,how good is your chance for a real date?
well you did say its the korean kind...some thing has to be different.
None, it's over, move on, wait for the next sogating and make a better impression, remember, in Korea, there are many many fish in the sea.
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Master,
Why does so many Koreans who come back after serving in the military for almost 2 years not look like they are physically fit at all?
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1)Do you have any irl friends? Im talking about buddies who've become like blood brothers. Have they ever told you that sometimes you might come on too strong? Or do you feel that a real man should be as"out-there" as all your blogs suggest you are?
2)What do you think about the role God should play in your life and the decisions you make. esp at a younger age(mid 20's)?
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On February 22 2011 23:28 don_kyuhote wrote:
Master,
Why does so many Koreans who come back after serving in the military for almost 2 years not look like they are physically fit at all?
They eat very little protein and eat lots of shin ramen (the army is the biggest buyer of shin ramen) and in their last year, depending on their division, they usually aren't doing that much exercise. But, they do come back thinner and stronger, but they just don't look it. After 5 months out of the army, any possible physical gains are destroyed by playing scbw with friends at pc bangs.
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so by not listening to your advice...i am a pussy? And prior to heeding your advice i am also a pussy? So if the above 2 questions are both yes, then your calling the whole TL site a bunch of pussys?
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On February 22 2011 23:34 T.I.P. wrote:
so by not listening to your advice...i am a pussy? And prior to heeding your advice i am also a pussy? So if the above 2 questions are both yes, then your calling the whole TL site a bunch of pussys?
this blog should be renamed "how to be a man in Korean turf".
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On February 22 2011 23:29 SushilS wrote:
1)Do you have any irl friends? Im talking about buddies who've become like blood brothers. Have they ever told you that sometimes you might come on too strong? Or do you feel that a real man should be as"out-there" as all your blogs suggest you are?
2)What do you think about the role God should play in your life and the decisions you make. esp at a younger age(mid 20's)?
1. Its different if you are the hyung or friends. As a hyung, you always must tell them straight up and out of respect they will listen, if not agree, but it won't ever affect the relationship as hyungs are expected to say such things. As close friends, you know your friends well, and as Korean, its simply very buddy buddy friendly all the time, as they totally understand you. But in Korea, if a close friend tells you advice because they really think you need to, they will tell you the right thing, even if it fucks up the relationship because, caring for your friend is more important than the friendship itself. If you need to sacrifice the friendship to clearly tell your friend (who for that moment has lost their normal senses), then as a Korean close friend you will. Knowing in time, your friendship will come back.
2. God is very important, but don't speculate too much about God. You pray to God, but don't go looking for God's hand in everything you do. You are still a young man and God gave you a life to live. Otherwise, simply love others as God has loved you and the rest will work itself out. But don't forget to pray sincerely and regularly, even it is uber short and read the bible, at least the New Testament from start to finish, if you haven't then everything is just bs speculation. In Korea, if you talk about God, I'd assume you're Christian.
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On February 22 2011 23:34 T.I.P. wrote:
so by not listening to your advice...i am a pussy? And prior to heeding your advice i am also a pussy? So if the above 2 questions are both yes, then your calling the whole TL site a bunch of pussys?
Don't take offense, you missed the ^^ part and stop with this bs line of logic,
my intent is be your hyung, not to call you a pussy.
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On February 22 2011 23:45 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 23:34 T.I.P. wrote:
so by not listening to your advice...i am a pussy? And prior to heeding your advice i am also a pussy? So if the above 2 questions are both yes, then your calling the whole TL site a bunch of pussys? Don't take offense, you missed the ^^ part and stop with this bs line of logic, my intent is be your hyung, not to call you a pussy.
ha sorry I can't help it i am just like that and like to play with peoples heads  I have a couple people like you in real life, it really does help
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On February 22 2011 23:47 T.I.P. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 23:45 MightyAtom wrote:On February 22 2011 23:34 T.I.P. wrote:
so by not listening to your advice...i am a pussy? And prior to heeding your advice i am also a pussy? So if the above 2 questions are both yes, then your calling the whole TL site a bunch of pussys? Don't take offense, you missed the ^^ part and stop with this bs line of logic, my intent is be your hyung, not to call you a pussy. ha sorry I can't help it i am just like that and like to play with peoples heads I have a couple people like you in real lifer, it really does help
^^ Glad to be your Hyung
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i always wished for a big korean brother. so cool to have you! ... ok, my question.. why am i too shy to talk to random women on the street? what should i do? i wanna talk to women while i'm in the supermarket, in the city, whatever... but i'm way too shy. what do i do?
thanks big bro 
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On February 22 2011 23:49 beg wrote:i always wished for a big korean brother. so cool to have you! ... ok, my question.. why am i too shy to talk to random women on the street? what should i do? i wanna talk to women while i'm in the supermarket, in the city, whatever... but i'm way too shy. what do i do? thanks big bro
^^
Because you think that women are not human as well, you think of them as something inherently special that their bodies, smiles and looks make them somehow special.
Ok, women are great, but they have the same or more doubts, insecurities and need for love, romance and complements. No random woman I ever talked with turned down a sincere comment about how good they look.
But I'll leave you one clear message that will solve things for you.
Women generally don't know what they want, even when its right there.
Remember that.
Don't assume women know what kind of guy they really want or are ready to judge. They are just humans.
But on a side, note, never ever talk to women randomly in Korea, they would think you are nuts, in a night club ok, but not on the street or supermarket, that is why we have sogatings, meetings and MTs. ^^
I'm not a dating specialist or some idiot who spends time thinking that picking up girls is a good hobby and way to spend their free time, but if you feel like you need to speak to women, just do it, after all, they will never see you again and why live with this regret if you feel you need to speak to random women. Just say the first thing you want to them and don't care about the reaction.
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On February 22 2011 23:55 gen.Sun wrote:
Daaawwww oneechan
this is firstly a korean thread ,not japanese and secondly its Oni-Chan(big brother)not Onee-Chan(Big sister).
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On February 23 2011 00:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:this is firstly a korean thread ,not japanese and secondly its Oni-Chan(big brother)not Onee-Chan(Big sister).
Thanks for that, I was a bit confused why gen.Sun posted that
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whats the most manly beer to drink?
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what do koreans deem to be the manliest sexual position?
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On February 23 2011 00:22 m4gdelen4 wrote:
what do koreans deem to be the manliest sexual position?
If I could guess....
+ Show Spoiler +
but to be honest I wish XenOsky- asked this question.
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What is your personal opinions/thoughts on girls and guys going for plastic surgery? how % of ppl you know has had some minor/major plastic surgery done over there?
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On February 23 2011 00:17 T.I.P. wrote:
whats the most manly beer to drink?
In Korea, beer is just beer, if you want to talk about a drink that defines a man, drink whiskey or mix the poktanju (the bomb): half a cup of beer with half of shot of whiskey downed in 1 shot, or drink your whiskey straight in sips if it over 21 years in age.
Never drink less than 18 years if you over 30, if you're under 25, continue to drink beer and soju.
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On February 23 2011 00:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 00:22 m4gdelen4 wrote:
what do koreans deem to be the manliest sexual position? If I could guess.... + Show Spoiler +but to be honest I wish XenOsky- asked this question.
arf, you are correct.
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Should I get a job that I have a passion for, or a job that gives me alot of money?
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thedeadhaji
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Your take on the middle east situation and its effect on the American, European, and Emerging Stock markets, respectively?
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So what would be the impact socially if you were a guy that does not drink whatsoever and lived in Korea? Would other guys consider you less manly? Think you are queer? Think you have some devious plan that you need to be sober for? I ask this because I don't drink at all, yet I find that the vast majority of people in America seem to need it like a baby needs their mother's teat.
Is it really that bad to enjoy my sober state and have fun without the need to numb my mind? I have no inhibitions or trouble letting loose without alcohol, so I find it kind of pointless to drink. Plus the health detriments of alcohol.
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On February 23 2011 00:36 chongu wrote:
What is your personal opinions/thoughts on girls and guys going for plastic surgery? how % of ppl you know has had some minor/major plastic surgery done over there?
If women need plastic surgery, they should get it. And need is relative in Korea, where nearly every single upper middle class girl in Korea has some form of plastic surgery, minor or otherwise.
Korea is mistaken to be very superficial, in fact, its beyond that, Korea is a place of completely unreasonable expectations for all things of beauty, success and manliness, thus the resulting highest rate of suicide in developed countries.
While my wife does not have plastic surgery, because she comes from a very conservative family background, she would if she was allowed to. Among my wealthy lady friends, about 95%, among the madams I know who entertain my clients, 110%, among Christians, about 15%, so its a lot. But mostly just in Seoul, outside Seoul the numbers drop a lot.
Men should not have plastic surgery, their character as being a man should be enough, unless its some thing like an overbite that should be looked at for long term dental reasons.
Many people, especially overseas Koreans are very disgusted by this all, thinking that plastic surgery is a completely bad thing, but I'd rather the woman have plastic surgery, look a bit more beautiful, have more self confidence than to succumb to the competitive social pressures. And nowadays plastic surgery in Korea is so advanced that it looks very natural, the adjustments. And truth be told as a Korean man, I like having beautiful women surround me and in my eye sight. You should know that many many beautiful celebrities that are naturally beautiful are still forced by their management agencies to have more work done! Its that much pressure.
But the only people who do major plastic surgery, like jaw scrapping, cheek bone implants are the really unfortunate ugly ones, in Korea with 80% of the population having high cheek bones, being ugly is really a curse here. For them, its too blatantly obvious that they had plastic surgery that it completely defeats the purpose, for them they have my sympathy for living in such a brutal place like South Korea.
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On February 23 2011 00:48 goiflin wrote:
Should I get a job that I have a passion for, or a job that gives me alot of money?
Job that gives you a lot of money, then save that money and make your own company of what you are passionate for and then really enjoy your life. Life is in steps, not just way or another.
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I have this little dilemma right now and from your previous blogs you seem like an experienced businessman so here goes (please bare with me cause this might be long):
So basically I have been working for Ernst&Young for about a year as an audit associate. It's been really tiring lately due to OT and whatnot, even though I kinda like what I'm doing right now. On an average day I work for about 10~12 hours, and it gets worse during peak period (in Vietnam, it's from Jan to Mar as the stock exchange requires listed companies to submit their audited FS by the 31st of March for the 31-Dec year end). The pay is decent, not too high but definitely not shitty. I mean not like I have time to spend money anyway lol seeing how work has been treating me.
Since college I've always had in mind that being an accountant would be my career path. I'm currently half way to get an ACCA certificate (only 5 more papers to go).
My current goal is to become an audit manager (which is another 3-4 years to go at least). However, I suddenly realize that even if that happens, I will still have to work 12~14 hours a day. So I question the worthiness of moving on.
At the moment I'm open to another offer to work for an consulting firm (McKinsey if you've ever heard of it). It's not technically an offer yet since I still have to go through the entrance test and interview. The pay there is much better, around 4 times what I'm getting right now. But I'm not sure if I'll like it there.
So my question is: should I jump ship and take the risk? or should I just stick with it till the end?
P/S: Please pardon my English since it's not my first language
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On February 23 2011 00:54 thedeadhaji wrote:
Your take on the middle east situation and its effect on the American, European, and Emerging Stock markets, respectively?
Biblically, I'd say, the anti-christ is due for an arrival any time now to bring peace to the middle east, stop all this crazy weather and bring the accent of man to past the heights of baal so that we can all see the folly of man when it all comes crashing down.
Personally as Korean man, too early to tell, right now it would be unnecessary speculation; unless it really affects our energy supplies, in which case the American gov't will solve the issue with brute force, even if Obama is still president. But for Korea, no effect at all after all, we still have NK to deal with ^^
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MightyAtom-hyung!
I hear that there is a set of traits which Korean girls find attractive in a guy. May I know what those traits are, or would the universe implode if you tell me? =0
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Atom-hyung
Annyong~
I'm trying to learn Korean, so I'm probably going to try conversing with my aunty(s), but how do I know if they're speaking a dialect or something that might be different than what I should use if I'm going to study abroad?
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On February 23 2011 00:55 StorkHwaiting wrote:
So what would be the impact socially if you were a guy that does not drink whatsoever and lived in Korea? Would other guys consider you less manly? Think you are queer? Think you have some devious plan that you need to be sober for? I ask this because I don't drink at all, yet I find that the vast majority of people in America seem to need it like a baby needs their mother's teat.
Is it really that bad to enjoy my sober state and have fun without the need to numb my mind? I have no inhibitions or trouble letting loose without alcohol, so I find it kind of pointless to drink. Plus the health detriments of alcohol.
This situation need to be clarified:
if you can't drink but try, you are pitied and accepted for your effort.
if you don't want to drink or can't drink in a corporate situation, you will never be anything than a team manager and never a VP unless your organization is a Christian organization.
You are approaching drinking from a Western point of view, as the purpose is to enjoy and get drunk with friends.
In Korea the approach is very different, it is a way to show your true face to your friends without any ability to hide yourself in both the good and the bad. In Korea, saying that because you were drunk you did something bad would not be an excuse, in fact, we would think that that is actually the true thoughts/mind that you have when you are sober but didn't express it.
In Taiwan, drinking a lot is considered a macho act, in Korea, drinking a lot has nothing to do with being manly or not, because women are expected to drink as well to the their own relative limits, rather, drinking is to share friendship in Korea in social situations.
In business situations: drinking is to measure the control and character of a man, in not how much he can drink, but how much can he drink while remaining to be sober, rational and in control. Also, it allows both parties to glance at each others character. Once this phase of the drinking is concluded, then the parties are allowed to now just get drunk and enjoy themselves if they choose, but most of the time at this point, the older CEO will excuse himself with this much drink and let the lower levels get drunk. Why? Because drinking was for business.
So you need to first understanding that drinking is a very deep cultural aspect of Koreans, not just for having fun. Now if you refuse to drink, its like refusing the first step in really getting to know one another. Of course, over time you will get to know each other without drinking, but this is the normal and faster way to do it, and the other way, is actually not the normal way, unless you are in high school.
TO BE SOBER and maintain it Guide in Korea (for those who do not enjoy drinking):
1. eat lots before you go.
2. drink either a Dawn 88 or Condition F BEFORE drinking.
3. if you don't have those, then a slug of commercial heart burn stomach coating is a good substitute.
4. you dictate the pace of drinking, if you can't drink much, drink a couple of shots first and make everyone cheers with you, there will be others who can't drink well either, so then they will try to slow things down and be your buffer
5. always be sipping your drink, look active and so people think you really enjoy drinking so they won't force you to one shot as often (the one shot is forced on people who don't look serious to drink)
6. When you drink, look happy, don't complain and you won't be noticed much.
7. After every shot or one shot, chase it with water and with food (anju) Koreans always eat when drinking
8. Koreans drink from 7pm dinner to 3am in the morning continually, so its marthathon, in between drinking places try to sober up as much as possible, I have been drunk sober drunk sober many times during long nights and when you are sober again, go on the attack and force people to drink at your own pace thus putting other over the edge.
9. Duck out when you have a chance, bu don't say goodbye, just go quietly, and don't wait until its the time for the next destination, or else others will make scene.
10. REMEMBER TO NEVER STOP CHASING AND EATING THROUGOUT.
Personally I drink and love to drink, but sometimes after 2 weeks of corporate drinking i will duck out of some social drinking for the sake of liver and with people I know well.
I agree, you don't need to drink to have fun, but I guarantee if you did drink with Koreans, you'd expose a different side of your character. And with the health reasons, I completely agree, but just remember, drinking in Korea is cultural interaction, not just fun.
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Like all real men I'm sporting a lush and fine beard. Now I'm going to an interview in a not very distant future and I will not get rid of this beard. How do you stay presentable while keeping your manhood?
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On February 23 2011 00:55 StorkHwaiting wrote:
So what would be the impact socially if you were a guy that does not drink whatsoever and lived in Korea? Would other guys consider you less manly? Think you are queer? Think you have some devious plan that you need to be sober for? I ask this because I don't drink at all, yet I find that the vast majority of people in America seem to need it like a baby needs their mother's teat.
Is it really that bad to enjoy my sober state and have fun without the need to numb my mind? I have no inhibitions or trouble letting loose without alcohol, so I find it kind of pointless to drink. Plus the health detriments of alcohol.
The point is, people don't understand why you're trying to be different so hard. sure, drinking is not good for your health, but it's not that detrimental either. If someone always hops instead of walking normally, you'd give him a strange look, right?
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On February 23 2011 01:32 .MistiK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 00:55 StorkHwaiting wrote:
So what would be the impact socially if you were a guy that does not drink whatsoever and lived in Korea? Would other guys consider you less manly? Think you are queer? Think you have some devious plan that you need to be sober for? I ask this because I don't drink at all, yet I find that the vast majority of people in America seem to need it like a baby needs their mother's teat.
Is it really that bad to enjoy my sober state and have fun without the need to numb my mind? I have no inhibitions or trouble letting loose without alcohol, so I find it kind of pointless to drink. Plus the health detriments of alcohol.
The point is, people don't understand why you're trying to be different so hard. sure, drinking is not good for your health, but it's not that detrimental either. If someone always hops instead of walking normally, you'd give him a strange look, right?
I don't drink. Why? Because it has horrible inpact on my training and I'm a guy that needs to be fit, alcohol pretty much ruin any kind of activity you do untill it's out of your system meaning that I would have to spend alot more time in the gym if I did drink. Is that a good enough reason not to?
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On February 23 2011 01:00 nayumi wrote:I have this little dilemma right now and from your previous blogs you seem like an experienced businessman so here goes (please bare with me cause this might be long): So basically I have been working for Ernst&Young for about a year as an audit associate. It's been really tiring lately due to OT and whatnot, even though I kinda like what I'm doing right now. On an average day I work for about 10~12 hours, and it gets worse during peak period (in Vietnam, it's from Jan to Mar as the stock exchange requires listed companies to submit their audited FS by the 31st of March for the 31-Dec year end). The pay is decent, not too high but definitely not shitty. I mean not like I have time to spend money anyway lol seeing how work has been treating me. Since college I've always had in mind that being an accountant would be my career path. I'm currently half way to get an ACCA certificate (only 5 more papers to go). My current goal is to become an audit manager (which is another 3-4 years to go at least). However, I suddenly realize that even if that happens, I will still have to work 12~14 hours a day. So I question the worthiness of moving on. At the moment I'm open to another offer to work for an consulting firm (McKinsey if you've ever heard of it). It's not technically an offer yet since I still have to go through the entrance test and interview. The pay there is much better, around 4 times what I'm getting right now. But I'm not sure if I'll like it there. So my question is: should I jump ship and take the risk? or should I just stick with it till the end? P/S: Please pardon my English since it's not my first language
Well since I was a senior consultant at PricewaterhouseCoopers, I can answer your questions ^^
Your work load is only really tough during Jan-Mar, otherwise you are doing inventory checks and onsite audits and maybe due diligence check ups or quarterly audits of divisions of public companies. Being an accountant at E&Y is a very good job and stable and once you get all your accreditation, you can look to be a senior manager and even a director and not have to work those hours at all as the mangers and associates do all the grunt work. Also, after 2 years, the work load is still heavy, but your know how is very good, so the task will become MUCH easier, 100%.
You can look to go into controls and assurance or some other divisions where is not as heavy like taxes as well. But for your pay and work, this is what being an accountant is all about for one of the big 4 and E&Y is a great firm. 100%.
Ah McKinsey, do you know they pay is 4 times higher? Take what you do in your busy months, then think 75% of that work load, 3 weeks out of every month for the entire year and that is the work load. BUT, if you can get in, wow, this is the cream of the crop of consultant companies in the world, after working here, they will support your MBA to a US school (if you agree to go back) and even if leave to do your MBA, being a McKinsey consultant will allow you to be a senior executive a most major firms and everyone will know you are the best of the best in human resource. So if you decide to be really ambitious, then go for it (but dont' quit until you have the job), but I would say, you're view on your current job will be 100% different in one more year, E&Y is a great firm and your pay will increase dramatically past manager level. But if youre looking to work less, no way is McKinsey for you, even the money wont' be enough.
So look at your ambition, being at E&Y is a really great thing though, no one can sell that short, but its a different path all together, consultant or accountant. Do you see yourself as being a VP or CEO of a company later on? Then go for it! If you want to be a CFO, you can still be a great one with a background from E&Y. ^^
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On February 23 2011 01:26 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 00:55 StorkHwaiting wrote:
So what would be the impact socially if you were a guy that does not drink whatsoever and lived in Korea? Would other guys consider you less manly? Think you are queer? Think you have some devious plan that you need to be sober for? I ask this because I don't drink at all, yet I find that the vast majority of people in America seem to need it like a baby needs their mother's teat.
Is it really that bad to enjoy my sober state and have fun without the need to numb my mind? I have no inhibitions or trouble letting loose without alcohol, so I find it kind of pointless to drink. Plus the health detriments of alcohol.
This situation need to be clarified: if you can't drink but try, you are pitied and accepted for your effort. if you don't want to drink or can't drink in a corporate situation, you will never be anything than a team manager and never a VP unless your organization is a Christian organization. You are approaching drinking from a Western point of view, as the purpose is to enjoy and get drunk with friends. In Korea the approach is very different, it is a way to show your true face to your friends without any ability to hide yourself in both the good and the bad. In Korea, saying that because you were drunk you did something bad would not be an excuse, in fact, we would think that that is actually the true thoughts/mind that you have when you are sober but didn't express it. In Taiwan, drinking a lot is considered a macho act, in Korea, drinking a lot has nothing to do with being manly or not, because women are expected to drink as well to the their own relative limits, rather, drinking is to share friendship in Korea in social situations. In business situations: drinking is to measure the control and character of a man, in not how much he can drink, but how much can he drink while remaining to be sober, rational and in control. Also, it allows both parties to glance at each others character. Once this phase of the drinking is concluded, then the parties are allowed to now just get drunk and enjoy themselves if they choose, but most of the time at this point, the older CEO will excuse himself with this much drink and let the lower levels get drunk. Why? Because drinking was for business. So you need to first understanding that drinking is a very deep cultural aspect of Koreans, not just for having fun. Now if you refuse to drink, its like refusing the first step in really getting to know one another. Of course, over time you will get to know each other without drinking, but this is the normal and faster way to do it, and the other way, is actually not the normal way, unless you are in high school. TO BE SOBER and maintain it Guide in Korea (for those who do not enjoy drinking): 1. eat lots before you go. 2. drink either a Dawn 88 or Condition F BEFORE drinking. 3. if you don't have those, then a slug of commercial heart burn stomach coating is a good substitute. 4. you dictate the pace of drinking, if you can't drink much, drink a couple of shots first and make everyone cheers with you, there will be others who can't drink well either, so then they will try to slow things down and be your buffer 5. always be sipping your drink, look active and so people think you really enjoy drinking so they won't force you to one shot as often (the one shot is forced on people who don't look serious to drink) 6. When you drink, look happy, don't complain and you won't be noticed much. 7. After every shot or one shot, chase it with water and with food (anju) Koreans always eat when drinking 8. Koreans drink from 7pm dinner to 3am in the morning continually, so its marthathon, in between drinking places try to sober up as much as possible, I have been drunk sober drunk sober many times during long nights and when you are sober again, go on the attack and force people to drink at your own pace thus putting other over the edge. 9. Duck out when you have a chance, bu don't say goodbye, just go quietly, and don't wait until its the time for the next destination, or else others will make scene. 10. REMEMBER TO NEVER STOP CHASING AND EATING THROUGOUT. Personally I drink and love to drink, but sometimes after 2 weeks of corporate drinking i will duck out of some social drinking for the sake of liver and with people I know well. I agree, you don't need to drink to have fun, but I guarantee if you did drink with Koreans, you'd expose a different side of your character. And with the health reasons, I completely agree, but just remember, drinking in Korea is cultural interaction, not just fun.
Thanks a lot, MightyAtom. That makes a lot more sense to me now. I didn't quite understand the cultural and social significance of drinking in Korea. At the same time, I have a very weak liver (born that way), so I feel pretty awful for a while after drinking. My tolerance is good and when I do get drunk I mostly smile a lot and then fall asleep, but the health effects for me are just really hard to live with.
Guess I'm just not built for Korean society lol. To be honest though, doesn't that make for really fat people? o_0. I would think binge eating/drinking every weekend would really take a toll on the body.
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On February 23 2011 01:16 blahman3344 wrote:
MightyAtom-hyung!
I hear that there is a set of traits which Korean girls find attractive in a guy. May I know what those traits are, or would the universe implode if you tell me? =0
^^ Depends on where the woman is from and age:
University level:
Seoul: thin, slight muscular, tall, wears great clothes and has great hair
Busan, Daegu: Manly man, athletic build, can be a bit chubby if still looking manly
Jonju: Very open to any man as long as good man
Mid-Twenties
Seoul: good university, good job prospects, slightly more manly looking
Late-Twenties
Seoul: established, just needs not to be embarrassing looking
Other places, doesn't change much.
But regardless, you must always look impeccable good hygiene (not prissy, but clean) and if you want them, just tell em that you want them because they are so damn beautiful and it does the trick for most women in Korea.
Good singing and being charming to their friends is very good traits too, but the older the girl, the more she is interested in your future economic situation.
NOW, if you want a retard air head Korean girl, flash money around, dress really nicely, call her and text her with nice things and buy her lots of gifts and arrange 'events' for her and celebrate all those aniversity things like 100 days, 300 days etc.
But bottom line, when your young, if your balling charmer you can get the chicks, but only cash in the end is what is the foundation (not the be all end all), its a huge weighting. Example: I'm a very fat unattractive man now, but if I was single, right now, I'd be crack cocaine to women in the their mid-late 20s (36 now) and I wouldn't even consider a woman past 30. ^^ Maybe my answer was too cynical because I'm old!
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Sadly as a non drinker and a Vegitarian,I just don't think I would fit in Korea.....
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On February 23 2011 01:25 mizU wrote:
Atom-hyung
Annyong~
I'm trying to learn Korean, so I'm probably going to try conversing with my aunty(s), but how do I know if they're speaking a dialect or something that might be different than what I should use if I'm going to study abroad?
Annyong ^^,
There is only one dialect you should learn and its Seoul dialect, speaking or learning anything else, is wrong. I can't speak for the other dialects, but my family is from kyongsangdong, so I grew up speaking satori, so if your aunties are not raised in Seoul, Incheon or Daejon, then they won' t naturally be speaking the Seoul dialect and better to watch some Korean dramas!
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On February 23 2011 01:26 Hynda wrote:
Like all real men I'm sporting a lush and fine beard. Now I'm going to an interview in a not very distant future and I will not get rid of this beard. How do you stay presentable while keeping your manhood?
Make sure that it is extremely well groomed and that your hair on your head has been cut very well; so it the image of being extremely well groomed is very obvious in spite of the beard. But it should be a proper beard and not some shadow splotty 5 day beard that looks as though you decided to just groom it a bit than rather take the time to shave properly.
Be confident that all is according to plan and they will never question you.
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On February 23 2011 01:32 .MistiK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 00:55 StorkHwaiting wrote:
So what would be the impact socially if you were a guy that does not drink whatsoever and lived in Korea? Would other guys consider you less manly? Think you are queer? Think you have some devious plan that you need to be sober for? I ask this because I don't drink at all, yet I find that the vast majority of people in America seem to need it like a baby needs their mother's teat.
Is it really that bad to enjoy my sober state and have fun without the need to numb my mind? I have no inhibitions or trouble letting loose without alcohol, so I find it kind of pointless to drink. Plus the health detriments of alcohol.
The point is, people don't understand why you're trying to be different so hard. sure, drinking is not good for your health, but it's not that detrimental either. If someone always hops instead of walking normally, you'd give him a strange look, right?
Exactly that. Well said. You'll do good in Korea naturally.
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On February 23 2011 01:35 Hynda wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 01:32 .MistiK wrote:On February 23 2011 00:55 StorkHwaiting wrote:
So what would be the impact socially if you were a guy that does not drink whatsoever and lived in Korea? Would other guys consider you less manly? Think you are queer? Think you have some devious plan that you need to be sober for? I ask this because I don't drink at all, yet I find that the vast majority of people in America seem to need it like a baby needs their mother's teat.
Is it really that bad to enjoy my sober state and have fun without the need to numb my mind? I have no inhibitions or trouble letting loose without alcohol, so I find it kind of pointless to drink. Plus the health detriments of alcohol.
The point is, people don't understand why you're trying to be different so hard. sure, drinking is not good for your health, but it's not that detrimental either. If someone always hops instead of walking normally, you'd give him a strange look, right? I don't drink. Why? Because it has horrible inpact on my training and I'm a guy that needs to be fit, alcohol pretty much ruin any kind of activity you do untill it's out of your system meaning that I would have to spend alot more time in the gym if I did drink. Is that a good enough reason not to?
If you are a health fanatic or in training of course it is, Koreans are not unreasonable people.
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On February 23 2011 01:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 01:26 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 00:55 StorkHwaiting wrote:
So what would be the impact socially if you were a guy that does not drink whatsoever and lived in Korea? Would other guys consider you less manly? Think you are queer? Think you have some devious plan that you need to be sober for? I ask this because I don't drink at all, yet I find that the vast majority of people in America seem to need it like a baby needs their mother's teat.
Is it really that bad to enjoy my sober state and have fun without the need to numb my mind? I have no inhibitions or trouble letting loose without alcohol, so I find it kind of pointless to drink. Plus the health detriments of alcohol.
This situation need to be clarified: if you can't drink but try, you are pitied and accepted for your effort. if you don't want to drink or can't drink in a corporate situation, you will never be anything than a team manager and never a VP unless your organization is a Christian organization. You are approaching drinking from a Western point of view, as the purpose is to enjoy and get drunk with friends. In Korea the approach is very different, it is a way to show your true face to your friends without any ability to hide yourself in both the good and the bad. In Korea, saying that because you were drunk you did something bad would not be an excuse, in fact, we would think that that is actually the true thoughts/mind that you have when you are sober but didn't express it. In Taiwan, drinking a lot is considered a macho act, in Korea, drinking a lot has nothing to do with being manly or not, because women are expected to drink as well to the their own relative limits, rather, drinking is to share friendship in Korea in social situations. In business situations: drinking is to measure the control and character of a man, in not how much he can drink, but how much can he drink while remaining to be sober, rational and in control. Also, it allows both parties to glance at each others character. Once this phase of the drinking is concluded, then the parties are allowed to now just get drunk and enjoy themselves if they choose, but most of the time at this point, the older CEO will excuse himself with this much drink and let the lower levels get drunk. Why? Because drinking was for business. So you need to first understanding that drinking is a very deep cultural aspect of Koreans, not just for having fun. Now if you refuse to drink, its like refusing the first step in really getting to know one another. Of course, over time you will get to know each other without drinking, but this is the normal and faster way to do it, and the other way, is actually not the normal way, unless you are in high school. TO BE SOBER and maintain it Guide in Korea (for those who do not enjoy drinking): 1. eat lots before you go. 2. drink either a Dawn 88 or Condition F BEFORE drinking. 3. if you don't have those, then a slug of commercial heart burn stomach coating is a good substitute. 4. you dictate the pace of drinking, if you can't drink much, drink a couple of shots first and make everyone cheers with you, there will be others who can't drink well either, so then they will try to slow things down and be your buffer 5. always be sipping your drink, look active and so people think you really enjoy drinking so they won't force you to one shot as often (the one shot is forced on people who don't look serious to drink) 6. When you drink, look happy, don't complain and you won't be noticed much. 7. After every shot or one shot, chase it with water and with food (anju) Koreans always eat when drinking 8. Koreans drink from 7pm dinner to 3am in the morning continually, so its marthathon, in between drinking places try to sober up as much as possible, I have been drunk sober drunk sober many times during long nights and when you are sober again, go on the attack and force people to drink at your own pace thus putting other over the edge. 9. Duck out when you have a chance, bu don't say goodbye, just go quietly, and don't wait until its the time for the next destination, or else others will make scene. 10. REMEMBER TO NEVER STOP CHASING AND EATING THROUGOUT. Personally I drink and love to drink, but sometimes after 2 weeks of corporate drinking i will duck out of some social drinking for the sake of liver and with people I know well. I agree, you don't need to drink to have fun, but I guarantee if you did drink with Koreans, you'd expose a different side of your character. And with the health reasons, I completely agree, but just remember, drinking in Korea is cultural interaction, not just fun. Thanks a lot, MightyAtom. That makes a lot more sense to me now. I didn't quite understand the cultural and social significance of drinking in Korea. At the same time, I have a very weak liver (born that way), so I feel pretty awful for a while after drinking. My tolerance is good and when I do get drunk I mostly smile a lot and then fall asleep, but the health effects for me are just really hard to live with. Guess I'm just not built for Korean society lol. To be honest though, doesn't that make for really fat people? o_0. I would think binge eating/drinking every weekend would really take a toll on the body.
It does, but if you try once and explain, you'll likely not have to drink further as your group would protect you from drinking and hurting yourself ^^
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Mighty Hyung,
Thanks for the God-level advice.
On a lighter note:
I think I may be in love with a KPop Idol! What shud I do? Shall I stop watching her MVs, hearing her songs,etc. altogether?
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On February 23 2011 02:10 SushilS wrote:
Mighty Hyung,
Thanks for the God-level advice.
On a lighter note:
I think I may be in love with a KPop Idol! What shud I do? Shall I stop watching her MVs, hearing her songs,etc. altogether?
Tell her you love her.She will reject you,that should be enough to get you out of it.:p
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On February 23 2011 01:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Sadly as a non drinker and a Vegitarian,I just don't think I would fit in Korea.....
We do have lots of Buddhists, but they physically fight a lot, if you can fight at least you can hang out with them ^^ or you can convert when you get here. But I think as a foreigner you are granted a lot more leeway, as long as you try to speak Korean, people will embrace you! ^^
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On February 23 2011 02:10 SushilS wrote:
Mighty Hyung,
Thanks for the God-level advice.
On a lighter note:
I think I may be in love with a KPop Idol! What shud I do? Shall I stop watching her MVs, hearing her songs,etc. altogether?
No let it play its course, all men are affected once in their lives and it become a pleasant memory afterwards. I too had such an obsession with Hyori. ^^
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On February 23 2011 02:10 SushilS wrote:
Mighty Hyung,
Thanks for the God-level advice.
On a lighter note:
I think I may be in love with a KPop Idol! What shud I do? Shall I stop watching her MVs, hearing her songs,etc. altogether?
:o
Which one? :D
If it's one of the SNSD girls...
I may have to fight you for them.
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On February 23 2011 01:59 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 01:25 mizU wrote:
Atom-hyung
Annyong~
I'm trying to learn Korean, so I'm probably going to try conversing with my aunty(s), but how do I know if they're speaking a dialect or something that might be different than what I should use if I'm going to study abroad? Annyong ^^, There is only one dialect you should learn and its Seoul dialect, speaking or learning anything else, is wrong. I can't speak for the other dialects, but my family is from kyongsangdong, so I grew up speaking satori, so if your aunties are not raised in Seoul, Incheon or Daejon, then they won' t naturally be speaking the Seoul dialect and better to watch some Korean dramas!
Kamsamnida.
Would watching eng subbed variety shows/radio shows etc. be a decent way to "learn" Korean?
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On February 23 2011 02:15 mizU wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 02:10 SushilS wrote:
Mighty Hyung,
Thanks for the God-level advice.
On a lighter note:
I think I may be in love with a KPop Idol! What shud I do? Shall I stop watching her MVs, hearing her songs,etc. altogether?
:o Which one? :D If it's one of the SNSD girls... I may have to fight you for them.
My brother-in-law is the senior manager of that company and developed them, they are quite short in person to let you know, if that helps to break your obsession ^^ gee gee gee gee baby baby... keke
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I'm short and I look like I'm 16 years old when I'm actually 20. How do I get more manly? -.^
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On February 23 2011 02:17 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 02:15 mizU wrote:On February 23 2011 02:10 SushilS wrote:
Mighty Hyung,
Thanks for the God-level advice.
On a lighter note:
I think I may be in love with a KPop Idol! What shud I do? Shall I stop watching her MVs, hearing her songs,etc. altogether?
:o Which one? :D If it's one of the SNSD girls... I may have to fight you for them. My brother-in-law is the senior manager of that company and developed them, they are quite short in person to let you know, if that helps to break your obsession ^^ gee gee gee gee baby baby... keke
Lee Sooman?
Haha, I love shorter girls <3
Sunny especially. But Sooyoung is actually pretty tall. geee geee geee geee baby baby
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On February 23 2011 02:15 mizU wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 02:10 SushilS wrote:
Mighty Hyung,
Thanks for the God-level advice.
On a lighter note:
I think I may be in love with a KPop Idol! What shud I do? Shall I stop watching her MVs, hearing her songs,etc. altogether?
:o Which one? :D If it's one of the SNSD girls... I may have to fight you for them.
You'll find me dusting off my shotgun. @MizU below: You know I'm captain of the Fany ship, rite!?
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On February 23 2011 02:18 Necosarius wrote:
I'm short and I look like I'm 16 years old when I'm actually 20. How do I get more manly? -.^
Grow a beard and wrestle the polarbears that are wandering the streets.
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On February 23 2011 02:19 SushilS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 02:15 mizU wrote:On February 23 2011 02:10 SushilS wrote:
Mighty Hyung,
Thanks for the God-level advice.
On a lighter note:
I think I may be in love with a KPop Idol! What shud I do? Shall I stop watching her MVs, hearing her songs,etc. altogether?
:o Which one? :D If it's one of the SNSD girls... I may have to fight you for them. You'll find me dusting off my shotgun.
Which one do you like? ;]
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What decision points did you face stepping off the corporate ladder into entrepreneurship? What was the "event horizon" in terms of when beyond that point, a return to the corporate ladder could not get you to the same position/level as you would had you stayed in your previous job?
What are your biggest tips for balancing a family life with making the jump into entrepreneurship?
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On February 23 2011 02:18 Necosarius wrote:
I'm short and I look like I'm 16 years old when I'm actually 20. How do I get more manly? -.^
Manly is not a look, it is being a good friend, strong in character and confident. If you have those things, then feel good that you still look young as time passes very quickly and I'm sure you're you 36 like me, you'll feel glad that you still look in your late 20s.
In terms of being short, just don't concern about it, if you do, it will be a chip on your shoulder, just accept it that God gave you other gifts and seek to develop those to be exceptional. Again, in Korea, there are many short men, but there is a range (although I could see in Sweden it wouldn't be the norm), but our main concern with each each other is not who's dick longer or who is taller, but rather if we are good friends or not and can have a good time.
Well at 16 you can still grow in many ways, and being more manly isn't probably your main priority, be a great athlete or scholar or whatever as long as you can be confident.
Confidence and character is what ultimately defines a man, nothing else.
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hyung,
I'm a sophomore in University right now and I feel so unmotivated. I regularly sleep through/skip classes and I always feel bad afterwards, but I keep doing it. I have to maintain a 3.5GPA to retain my scholarship and I'm slowly getting closer to it every semester. I know my parents would flip shit if I lost my scholarships and I would have to get a job but I still find myself making excuses everyday (Oh I'll study tomorrow.. I can start the paper later.. etc.) I didn't used to be like this, what's wrong with me/how do I get back on track?
Thanks, All my irl hyungs moved back to korea -_-
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Status wise, how important is the university you go to? Especially if you're a foreigner and went to a university outside of Korea.
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On February 23 2011 02:29 The_LiNk wrote:
Tell us about your scar.
Happened when I was 30;
17 stitches above my right eye, starting from the left part of my right eye brow (hair doesn't grow there anymore) to the middle of my forehead. Took about 18 months before all the nerves healed back.
Got sucker punched by an American Black GI at the UN PLACE in Itaewon which is a foreign/US army dive in Itaewon and was the only Korea guy there, and another black GI jumped into fight me as well.
Was there with my foreign international rugby team, as they suggested.
After I got punched, my contacts stuck to the top of my eye lids (got punched that hard) and was kind fight a bit disoriented at first. Had I just fell over, the impact of the punch would have just grazed my forehead, but after he sucker punched me I was still standing and ready to go at it. So I guess it freaked him out a bit (had a sore neck for 2 weeks though as well, fucker sucker punched me hard);
I had an umbrella, I jabbed him in the face with it a couple of times and front kicked him and tried to kick him down the stairs (entrance has 2 separate set of stairs going up and and down), then he was off balance, but then on my right, this other guy comes out swinging, I dodge three of his punches, then grab him and pull him outside.
Its raining and I look at the concrete where I want to flip him and crush his shoulder into, but then I think...ah what the hell, I'm not hurt and these are just kids, so I let him go and he starts swing again and misses like 3 times. And then I get pissed and say to him,'Are you fucking kidding, do you want me to knock you out?' but then the MPs are coming so he runs away.
I notice some blood drops from my forehead and the MPs ask me if I want to press charges, I say, no forget about it, but they my rugby mates say, that my forehead is gashed wide open;
I go to the police station across from Hamilton hotel; I see the damage, the skin is ripped clean open as if I got head butted and its huge and I can see my skull bone and I'm like FUCK MY LIFE and then the police take me to the hospital where I pay 120 to get myself stitched up and now wishing that I had flipped the GI into the concrete; but I take a deep breath and the next day get my ass handed to me by the senior partner of my company.
I think for about 3 weeks of seriously going back to the UN with a sashimi knife and finding them and stabbing them in the leg two or three times, but I remind myself that they are just kids.
My rugby team of big powerful men are embarrassed more than anything else because I was the enforcer on my team, they are use to letting beat the shit out of the other player, so they assumed i'd beat the shit out of these guys as well, but I yell at them reminding them that we aren't on the fucking pitch, I'm slightly drunk and there were 2 who jumped me and fucking 6 of them and I'm still the fucking shortest guy.
Thanks from bring up some great memories ^^
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On February 23 2011 02:49 MightyAtom wrote:Happened when I was 30; 17 stitches above my right eye, starting from the left part of my right eye brow (hair doesn't grow there anymore) to the middle of my forehead. Took about 18 months before all the nerves healed back. Got sucker punched by an American Black GI at the UN PLACE in Itaewon which is a foreign/US army dive in Itaewon and was the only Korea guy there, and another black GI jumped into fight me as well. Was there with my foreign international rugby team, as they suggested. After I got punched, my contacts stuck to the top of my eye lids (got punched that hard) and was kind fight a bit disoriented at first. Had I just fell over, the impact of the punch would have just grazed my forehead, but after he sucker punched me I was still standing and ready to go at it. So I guess it freaked him out a bit (had a sore neck for 2 weeks though as well, fucker sucker punched me hard); I had an umbrella, I jabbed him in the face with it a couple of times and front kicked him and tried to kick him down the stairs (entrance has 2 separate set of stairs going up and and down), then he was off balance, but then on my right, this other guy comes out swinging, I dodge three of his punches, then grab him and pull him outside. Its raining and I look at the concrete where I want to flip him and crush his shoulder into, but then I think...ah what the hell, I'm not hurt and these are just kids, so I let him go and he starts swing again and misses like 3 times. And then I get pissed and say to him,'Are you fucking kidding, do you want me to knock you out?' but then the MPs are coming so he runs away. I notice some blood drops from my forehead and the MPs ask me if I want to press charges, I say, no forget about it, but they my rugby mates say, that my forehead is gashed wide open; I go to the police station across from Hamilton hotel; I see the damage, the skin is ripped clean open as if I got head butted and its huge and I can see my skull bone and I'm like FUCK MY LIFE and then the police take me to the hospital where I pay 120 to get myself stitched up and now wishing that I had flipped the GI into the concrete; but I take a deep breath and the next day get my ass handed to me by the senior partner of my company. I think for about 3 weeks of seriously going back to the UN with a sashimi knife and finding them and stabbing them in the leg two or three times, but I remind myself that they are just kids. My rugby team of big powerful men are embarrassed more than anything else because I was the enforcer on my team, they are use to letting beat the shit out of the other player, so they assumed i'd beat the shit out of these guys as well, but I yell at them reminding them that we aren't on the fucking pitch, I'm slightly drunk and there were 2 who jumped me and fucking 6 of them and I'm still the fucking shortest guy. Thanks from bring up some great memories ^^
Holy BAD-ASS
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thedeadhaji
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What would you say to the naysayers against MBA programs?
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How do I pick up korean girls, hyung?
Edit: that is to say, how is it different from your regular western process?
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First of all, thank you for this thread. It has been a great read.
If you had 3 weeks to travel, would you rather spend all 3 weeks in Korea, or split the time between Korea and Japan? I have never been to either country, and I would be traveling solo. Part of me wants to see more new places, and the other thinks it would be better to spend more time in one place to get a more complete experience. Any other travel advice regarding Korea would also be helpful. Thanks.
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On February 23 2011 02:29 l0st_romantic wrote:
What decision points did you face stepping off the corporate ladder into entrepreneurship? What was the "event horizon" in terms of when beyond that point, a return to the corporate ladder could not get you to the same position/level as you would had you stayed in your previous job?
What are your biggest tips for balancing a family life with making the jump into entrepreneurship?
Basically, every man has a shelf life of peak performance, at 35 I knew that if I didn't make a move now, I'd never make a move ever, not in the same way and I thought in a 5 year window before 40, I still had the physical stamina to take on the full operations myself (although this is much tougher than it was when I was 32 having already put myself through hell to climb the ladder). So I didn't want to regret this moment and I knew that I would never be the same combination of stamina, experience and mental ability all this level. But the biggest thing was stamina. People think that they work hard, boy, they don't know shit. It one things to work hard at the same routine job, its another to work on a different job every single day and problem solve major issues every single day for 3 years straight while doing non stop travel and literally 5 days off in 2 years. But, that also gave me confidence that I could do it if I needed to.
But I dont' like to use the word entrepreneur, I'd like to just think I transitioned over to the equity circle.
The event horizon is about 2 years; because if I fail at that point, I will need to re-enter at a much lower level such as a manager level and work my way back up which will take another 2 years. So I'd just be hitting 42 or so at the twilight of my professional work horse stamina. But the opportunity cost of the next 5 years would have been significant at least 3 M had I just stayed put. But on the flip side, not doing it would have been a life time of regret.
Biggest tips, you know all those stories you read when the entrepreneur says that they maxed out all their credit cards and their family was all stressed and it was hell. All fucking true. Didn't think it would happen to me, but sold my house, and basically living off of savings while everything that can go wrong goes wrong and every short cut is a dead end, but keeping things in perspective, I tell my wife, baby, no matter what, in 5 years I we will be fine no matter what and our kids will only be like 7 years old their whole lives ahead of them anyways. But of course my wife says 'what about now!', but i'd say, no balance exists, but keep your eyes on the goal line, its the only way to keep everything together.
On the point of why its like-the entire capital strapped thing; had I stayed for an additional year, I wasn't confident that I would ever leave and that is what happens to a lot of senior executives.
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On February 23 2011 02:38 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
hyung,
I'm a sophomore in University right now and I feel so unmotivated. I regularly sleep through/skip classes and I always feel bad afterwards, but I keep doing it. I have to maintain a 3.5GPA to retain my scholarship and I'm slowly getting closer to it every semester. I know my parents would flip shit if I lost my scholarships and I would have to get a job but I still find myself making excuses everyday (Oh I'll study tomorrow.. I can start the paper later.. etc.) I didn't used to be like this, what's wrong with me/how do I get back on track?
Thanks, All my irl hyungs moved back to korea -_-
This happened to me as well, just didn't find it motivating at all; in fact I would take freshmen classes in my junior year and they were so easy and freak out the juniors by just screwing around in class.
You need to set internal deadlines to just shit done, then free up the rest of your day to just lounge around and let your mental self breath a bit.
What has happened is that now you know that studying isn't the be all end all of things and if you sleep through a class you won't suddenly die (although if you skip an entire semester and just do the final term paper and exam you may get reoccurring nightmares for the rest of your life that you have just missed your final exam or your paper and you failed-yes, at age 36 I still get those dreams from slacking of that much).
BUT Practical thing first:
1. Starting tomorrow: wake up at 5:30 am, take a long hot shower, get a cup of coffee and go somewhere quiet and get out all the work you need to do.
Its now 6 AM
2. Make a list of all assignments and readings and projects
3. assign a time value to each of them: how long it will take the most minimum but reasonable value.
4. Make sure that they are all separated by subject.
Its now 6:30AM
5. Do exactly 45mins of work on each subject, after each session, check off whatever you get done on your list if you can.
Assuming you have 5 subjects:
It's now about 10ishAM,
take the rest of the day off, if you go to class go,
if you want to sleep and fuck off, do that,
But every morning force yourself to take up at 5:30 am and do this every day.
Since you have no distractions and you are organizing your time into value and checking it off;
this will at least keep you afloat and you wont' feel like shit all day long cause you didnt' study at all.
Do this for 2 weeks,
eventually you wont' feel depressed anymore or overwhelmed and you'll have a clear decision to take the next step.
BUT FORCE YOURSELF TO DO THIS AND JUST SAY ITS ONLY FOR 2 WEEKS
You'll find when you do need to get back into the groove, you won't have any anxiety about where you are at in your studies, you'll know exactly how behind you are, which makes things manageable, not knowing is what totally fucks you up.
^^ You can do it, its what I did and I got through it.
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On February 23 2011 02:40 The_LiNk wrote:
Status wise, how important is the university you go to? Especially if you're a foreigner and went to a university outside of Korea.
In Korea EXTREMELY important, the only thing that trumps it is your actual job. But something like 50% of professional jobs are taken by Seoul national grads, and 30% by Korea and Yonsei and 20% all others and there are like 10 other respectable schools.
If you are foreigner and went to university, then its great, you are considered an educated foreigner, and if you went to an ivy league, you are considered god-like.
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On February 23 2011 03:04 thedeadhaji wrote:
What would you say to the naysayers against MBA programs?
Get your freaking MBA punks.
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On February 23 2011 03:04 Catch]22 wrote:
How do I pick up korean girls, hyung?
Edit: that is to say, how is it different from your regular western process?
Since there are so MANY Korean girls, just come to Korea, date a few and settle on one nice one to learn Korean from. But don't just settle on the first Korean girl you meet, you need to spend time to see their real beauty because you may just be dazzled how pretty they all look and miss out on the real gems.
How is it different? Be clear and forthright in your intentions, but do it in a non-aggressive way, but in protective way. Korean girls like to cuddle in close with their man, feeling protected, but not dominated, they want to look up to you and be proud that you are they're man.
Contrary to the typical Asian stereotype, Korean women are not submissive, they are at times crazy and violent and most of the time irrational, but seriously, with the volume here, its impossible not to pick up. So just do it and you shall receive. Ah, but make sure you pick up in the proper place, like either through introductions or in a club etc, random introduction to women will get you looks of 'is he nuts', but if you're on the university campus, its allowed. ^^ but not on the Ewas woman's campus, the security will kick you out!
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On February 23 2011 03:11 thebteam wrote:
First of all, thank you for this thread. It has been a great read.
If you had 3 weeks to travel, would you rather spend all 3 weeks in Korea, or split the time between Korea and Japan? I have never been to either country, and I would be traveling solo. Part of me wants to see more new places, and the other thinks it would be better to spend more time in one place to get a more complete experience. Any other travel advice regarding Korea would also be helpful. Thanks.
Spend 2 weeks and 3 days in Japan because many more sights, and spend 4 days in Korea. In Korea you can tour most of the attractions in Seoul in one full day; then catch a Starcraft match if your timing is good, but you should meet people in Korea, it not fun otherwise, The best thing about Korea is the food, its awesome, but you need someone from TL to guide you a bit.
In Japan, wow, everything is a sight and you will amazed. Thing is Korea and Japan developed very differently for urban and traditional things because Korea got forced into modernization under colonization by Japan, then everything got razed down by the North Korean invasion so its like by 1955 things start to rebuild, but by the 1960's Philippines economy was probably three times the size of South Korea.
While in Japan, other than the bombings, they have had over 130 year of urban development and their aesthetic taste is second to none.
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On February 23 2011 03:37 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 03:04 thedeadhaji wrote:
What would you say to the naysayers against MBA programs? Get your freaking MBA punks.
How would you respond to Guy Kawasaki?
What is the value of an MBA these days for young college graduates who want to start their own company?
Probably about a negative $250,000. (I have an MBA, and I was once a young college graduate.) I don’t think an MBA matters very much for starting a company. A much better educational background is an engineering degree. You can always hire MBAs, but if you don’t have the ability to conceptualize and deliver a product, you’ve got nothing.
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On February 23 2011 03:56 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 03:37 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 03:04 thedeadhaji wrote:
What would you say to the naysayers against MBA programs? Get your freaking MBA punks. How would you respond to Guy Kawasaki? Show nested quote +What is the value of an MBA these days for young college graduates who want to start their own company?
Probably about a negative $250,000. (I have an MBA, and I was once a young college graduate.) I don’t think an MBA matters very much for starting a company. A much better educational background is an engineering degree. You can always hire MBAs, but if you don’t have the ability to conceptualize and deliver a product, you’ve got nothing.
I love Guy, but he a product guy and I'm a process guy. His context is the start-up, my context is running a business properly and its very different.
If you're interested in doing a start-up then take his route, but while an MBA may only be considered a basic necessity now rather than plus, its just shows how competitive everything has been.
But I agree, an MBA for a start up company that is creating a product, not useful.
An MBA in my case where I am basically building up 2 global gaming brands and my entry as as senior consultant and senior executive, because I had and MBA, well extremely useful, and what the hell is 250k? Go to Singapore or Hong Kong and do your MBA and work overseas, cause what trumps an MBA is the first firm you work for after your MBA and that will define you more than your MBA.
You take an engineer and put him in my job without an MBA, he'd get eaten alive. Plus, honestly Guy, aside from being in Apple, what is his major win that came more from products more than his business sense? Cause I think he has impeccable business and managerial.marketing sense.
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how do you overcome insecurities that you know aren't rational but bother you anyway
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On February 23 2011 04:30 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
how do you overcome insecurities that you know aren't rational but bother you anyway
What is rational or not, they bother you, it comes from some reason, be honest with yourself and say why it bothers you first, don't just try to will it away, there is something you need to be honest first with.
But also remember, you are the most critical person; you may see a group photo and see your flaws, but so is everyone else looking at their own pictures looking at their own flaws.
The main thing is, when you get caught up in an insecurity, remember, you are a loved human being with your own mind and rights and thoughts and value, fuck if anyone is gonna put you down. You have the right to live and do your thing. so don't give someone a chance to put you down by doing it first. One life to live my brother.
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Annyeong MightyAtom-hyung! I have a few questions I've been wondering about from all of the Korean Blogs on TL.
1) You mentioned earlier that Ivy-League people are considered God-Like. What about people from other top unis like Oxbridge, Imperial or LSE?
2) What is Dawn88 and ConditionF? I can't seem to find anything on Google.
3) The median national income in Korea is ~23kUSD according to Google, but it seems from your stories that lots of people in Seoul earn far more than that due to all the posh partying and the like. Is it because people in Seoul earn more in general, or do they spend more to keep up appearances?
4) What is considered the most important personal quality for Korean people (in general)?
5) How did you manage to prioritise between work and social life when you were at university and when you got a job? I always feel that I need to work more in order to get ahead of my peers but it constantly comes at a cost of reducing my social life and sleeping time.
Kamsamnida~
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On February 23 2011 03:35 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 02:40 The_LiNk wrote:
Status wise, how important is the university you go to? Especially if you're a foreigner and went to a university outside of Korea. In Korea EXTREMELY important, the only thing that trumps it is your actual job. But something like 50% of professional jobs are taken by Seoul national grads, and 30% by Korea and Yonsei and 20% all others and there are like 10 other respectable schools. If you are foreigner and went to university, then its great, you are considered an educated foreigner, and if you went to an ivy league, you are considered god-like.
Can I achieve at least Demi-god with University of Toronto? Best I can do unfortunately.
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MightyAtom-hyung,
I feel a bit down about a girl, despite having been convinced that I was over her. I'm convinced that I can get over this small bump in the road but I still sense a need to focus on and improve myself. How can I become a bad-ass like you?
감사합니다
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MightyAtom-hyung,
I'm feeling pretty depressed about the Nazis. I don't understand how man could do such a terrible thing. How can I restore my faith in mankind?
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On February 23 2011 03:48 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 03:11 thebteam wrote:
First of all, thank you for this thread. It has been a great read.
If you had 3 weeks to travel, would you rather spend all 3 weeks in Korea, or split the time between Korea and Japan? I have never been to either country, and I would be traveling solo. Part of me wants to see more new places, and the other thinks it would be better to spend more time in one place to get a more complete experience. Any other travel advice regarding Korea would also be helpful. Thanks. Spend 2 weeks and 3 days in Japan because many more sights, and spend 4 days in Korea. In Korea you can tour most of the attractions in Seoul in one full day; then catch a Starcraft match if your timing is good, but you should meet people in Korea, it not fun otherwise, The best thing about Korea is the food, its awesome, but you need someone from TL to guide you a bit. In Japan, wow, everything is a sight and you will amazed. Thing is Korea and Japan developed very differently for urban and traditional things because Korea got forced into modernization under colonization by Japan, then everything got razed down by the North Korean invasion so its like by 1955 things start to rebuild, but by the 1960's Philippines economy was probably three times the size of South Korea. While in Japan, other than the bombings, they have had over 130 year of urban development and their aesthetic taste is second to none.
Are there many cool historical sites or did those get razed to the ground as well? Any cool castles, temples, etc, or would you say China/Japan rank much better for historical tourism? What about scenery? Not sure if you're familiar with China tourism, but anything that can compare to Tiger Leaping Gorge or Emei Shan, Huang Shan, etc?
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(For comparison, don't mean to hijack your thread)
China is pretty amazing, certain parts that is.
I went to the huge clay army in Xian, it was kinda boring, too commercialized.
The great wall is an amazing experience, though, I'd recommend everyone go, if you visit China.
Also the Summer Palace, and Forbidden City are all pretty amazing.
Basically anywhere in Japan is really nice. I went to this one Shinto temple (I think), and it was amazing. Everything was so nice, and there was this foresty/lake place with little waterfalls, gorgeous scenery and foliage. I wish I got to see more of Japan, but I was only there for 4 days, most of which was spent shopping and eating.
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On February 23 2011 00:43 MightyAtom wrote:In Korea, beer is just beer, if you want to talk about a drink that defines a man, drink whiskey or mix the poktanju (the bomb): half a cup of beer with half of shot of whiskey downed in 1 shot, or drink your whiskey straight in sips if it over 21 years in age. Never drink less than 18 years if you over 30, if you're under 25, continue to drink beer and soju.
so your saying underage drinkin is bad? 
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On February 23 2011 07:15 mizU wrote:
(For comparison, don't mean to hijack your thread)
China is pretty amazing, certain parts that is.
I went to the huge clay army in Xian, it was kinda boring, too commercialized.
The great wall is an amazing experience, though, I'd recommend everyone go, if you visit China.
Also the Summer Palace, and Forbidden City are all pretty amazing.
Basically anywhere in Japan is really nice. I went to this one Shinto temple (I think), and it was amazing. Everything was so nice, and there was this foresty/lake place with little waterfalls, gorgeous scenery and foliage. I wish I got to see more of Japan, but I was only there for 4 days, most of which was spent shopping and eating.
Summer Palace and Forbidden City are nice, but Xi'an has way more than the Terracotta warriors. Did you get a chance to try the dumpling banquets or see the Muslim Quarter? Those were my favorite experiences when I went to Xi'an. It's one of my fav cities in China.
China also has some amazing nature scenery, especially the famous mountains, and the jungles of Sichuan province. Qinghai also has some gorgeous scenery (area right outside Tibet).
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One questions that bothers me (I have a korean girl friend as well): Why are there almost no couples with a korean man and a "western" woman even though there are plenty of the reversed combination?
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MightyAtom-hyung,
Where do you go to find pretty Korean Ladies? Are Karaoke Bars popular?
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On February 23 2011 01:41 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 01:00 nayumi wrote:I have this little dilemma right now and from your previous blogs you seem like an experienced businessman so here goes (please bare with me cause this might be long): So basically I have been working for Ernst&Young for about a year as an audit associate. It's been really tiring lately due to OT and whatnot, even though I kinda like what I'm doing right now. On an average day I work for about 10~12 hours, and it gets worse during peak period (in Vietnam, it's from Jan to Mar as the stock exchange requires listed companies to submit their audited FS by the 31st of March for the 31-Dec year end). The pay is decent, not too high but definitely not shitty. I mean not like I have time to spend money anyway lol seeing how work has been treating me. Since college I've always had in mind that being an accountant would be my career path. I'm currently half way to get an ACCA certificate (only 5 more papers to go). My current goal is to become an audit manager (which is another 3-4 years to go at least). However, I suddenly realize that even if that happens, I will still have to work 12~14 hours a day. So I question the worthiness of moving on. At the moment I'm open to another offer to work for an consulting firm (McKinsey if you've ever heard of it). It's not technically an offer yet since I still have to go through the entrance test and interview. The pay there is much better, around 4 times what I'm getting right now. But I'm not sure if I'll like it there. So my question is: should I jump ship and take the risk? or should I just stick with it till the end? P/S: Please pardon my English since it's not my first language Well since I was a senior consultant at PricewaterhouseCoopers, I can answer your questions ^^ Your work load is only really tough during Jan-Mar, otherwise you are doing inventory checks and onsite audits and maybe due diligence check ups or quarterly audits of divisions of public companies. Being an accountant at E&Y is a very good job and stable and once you get all your accreditation, you can look to be a senior manager and even a director and not have to work those hours at all as the mangers and associates do all the grunt work. Also, after 2 years, the work load is still heavy, but your know how is very good, so the task will become MUCH easier, 100%. You can look to go into controls and assurance or some other divisions where is not as heavy like taxes as well. But for your pay and work, this is what being an accountant is all about for one of the big 4 and E&Y is a great firm. 100%. Ah McKinsey, do you know they pay is 4 times higher? Take what you do in your busy months, then think 75% of that work load, 3 weeks out of every month for the entire year and that is the work load. BUT, if you can get in, wow, this is the cream of the crop of consultant companies in the world, after working here, they will support your MBA to a US school (if you agree to go back) and even if leave to do your MBA, being a McKinsey consultant will allow you to be a senior executive a most major firms and everyone will know you are the best of the best in human resource. So if you decide to be really ambitious, then go for it (but dont' quit until you have the job), but I would say, you're view on your current job will be 100% different in one more year, E&Y is a great firm and your pay will increase dramatically past manager level. But if youre looking to work less, no way is McKinsey for you, even the money wont' be enough. So look at your ambition, being at E&Y is a really great thing though, no one can sell that short, but its a different path all together, consultant or accountant. Do you see yourself as being a VP or CEO of a company later on? Then go for it! If you want to be a CFO, you can still be a great one with a background from E&Y. ^^
Thank you so much for the advice. I'll make sure to think this thoroughly
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On February 23 2011 06:13 MoonBear wrote:
Annyeong MightyAtom-hyung! I have a few questions I've been wondering about from all of the Korean Blogs on TL.
1) You mentioned earlier that Ivy-League people are considered God-Like. What about people from other top unis like Oxbridge, Imperial or LSE?
2) What is Dawn88 and ConditionF? I can't seem to find anything on Google.
3) The median national income in Korea is ~23kUSD according to Google, but it seems from your stories that lots of people in Seoul earn far more than that due to all the posh partying and the like. Is it because people in Seoul earn more in general, or do they spend more to keep up appearances?
4) What is considered the most important personal quality for Korean people (in general)?
5) How did you manage to prioritise between work and social life when you were at university and when you got a job? I always feel that I need to work more in order to get ahead of my peers but it constantly comes at a cost of reducing my social life and sleeping time.
Kamsamnida~
^^
1. LSE, kinda, but UK schools are not well known here because of the US influence in our modern development and most of our elite was educated in US schools.
2. There are anti hang over drinks,
http://www.seouleats.com/2010/07/koreas-ultimate-hangover-cure-dawn-808.html
sorry it was Dawn 808, been a long time since I needed to drink one (but boy have I drunk a lot of them)
http://seoulbuffoon.blogspot.com/2007/12/getting-rid-of-hangovers-in-korea.html
3. In a very small area of Seoul, called Gangnam, most of the entire country's wealth is heavily concentrated, but in terms of income via salary they dont have much, but in terms of investment income, they earn much more than the salary. Near the blue house (our equivalent of the white house) in songbukdong, is where the really old money lives, but its not densely populated.
But the stories from myself or Rekrul represent the top 1% of Korea,many Koreans will never experience the stories that myself or Rekrul share. There are probably hundreds of clubs and drinking establishments, but the 20 or so we go to are literally the most expense ones in the the country.
4. Korean's are over achievers, but there are two social qualities, good manners and a good ability to read the social situation without words. Someone like Idra would be very misunderstood in Korea, although I have found him to be quite nice and pleasant in person. Otherwise, Korean children are raised to be smart, athletic, mannered and artistic, leading to the highest youth suicide rate in the developed world (well on all age levels that is true) and leads to no one being really exceptional as well (but still well above the global average on all metrics).
5. You can't, social life and sleep will be sacrificed, but you will build character, work ethic and you will appreciate your studies more. Life is difficult always, but I'll say, when you graduate, you'll be leg up and if you remember this time and work that much harder when you graduate, success will be that much sweeter and greater.
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On February 23 2011 06:22 The_LiNk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 03:35 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 02:40 The_LiNk wrote:
Status wise, how important is the university you go to? Especially if you're a foreigner and went to a university outside of Korea. In Korea EXTREMELY important, the only thing that trumps it is your actual job. But something like 50% of professional jobs are taken by Seoul national grads, and 30% by Korea and Yonsei and 20% all others and there are like 10 other respectable schools. If you are foreigner and went to university, then its great, you are considered an educated foreigner, and if you went to an ivy league, you are considered god-like. Can I achieve at least Demi-god with University of Toronto? Best I can do unfortunately.
No, but a nod of respect is all you get, that's all I get too. ^^
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On February 23 2011 06:31 TheJoyBringer wrote:
MightyAtom-hyung,
I feel a bit down about a girl, despite having been convinced that I was over her. I'm convinced that I can get over this small bump in the road but I still sense a need to focus on and improve myself. How can I become a bad-ass like you?
감사합니다
^^
When you love passionately, only time can really make you forget or getting a new gf or end up hating your gf, but it starts by clearly saying you're moving on and while the memories were good, even you could get back together, you wouldn't.
But to do that, go out with you friends and get totally sloshed (in a safe way, don't get sick and make it a crappy night), but get happily drunk and joyful, maybe you'll tear a bit, maybe you say in your drunken state: that fucking bitch, damn I loved her,etc, but let the alcohol and good friends help you get it out of your system (don't call her afterwards drunk, bad idea).
Then, man up and throw yourself to your work and studies, repeat the MightyAtom mantra of the mind:
I AM A MACHINE.
And stop thinking and just work.
Eventually, you'll wake up and you'll feel free and that's it.
Depending on how long you've been together, sometimes, it does take a long time; I had one ex-gf, and it took about 2 years to fully get over her and I was honest with myself about it, we'd gone out for about 6 months but knew each other for about 2 years before then.
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On February 23 2011 06:47 Deadeight wrote:
MightyAtom-hyung,
I'm feeling pretty depressed about the Nazis. I don't understand how man could do such a terrible thing. How can I restore my faith in mankind?
Don't get caught up in impractical things of the past, that's for people with too much time on their hands. Go and do something productive like have sex with the woman you love or further your career. People are fuckers and they always will be, and
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
Forget about restoring your faith in mankind, that is a issue for pussies, go out there and make sure shit like this doesn't happen again, many great men, in the end sacrificed their lives. I'm not saying go out there and join the army, but be a protector, defender and advocate of humanity, not a pussy.
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On February 23 2011 07:55 T.I.P. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 00:43 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 00:17 T.I.P. wrote:
whats the most manly beer to drink? In Korea, beer is just beer, if you want to talk about a drink that defines a man, drink whiskey or mix the poktanju (the bomb): half a cup of beer with half of shot of whiskey downed in 1 shot, or drink your whiskey straight in sips if it over 21 years in age. Never drink less than 18 years if you over 30, if you're under 25, continue to drink beer and soju. so your saying underage drinkin is bad?
yes, bad your growth and brain development, why stunt your mental and physical health, wait till you're the proper age.
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On February 23 2011 07:08 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 03:48 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 03:11 thebteam wrote:
First of all, thank you for this thread. It has been a great read.
If you had 3 weeks to travel, would you rather spend all 3 weeks in Korea, or split the time between Korea and Japan? I have never been to either country, and I would be traveling solo. Part of me wants to see more new places, and the other thinks it would be better to spend more time in one place to get a more complete experience. Any other travel advice regarding Korea would also be helpful. Thanks. Spend 2 weeks and 3 days in Japan because many more sights, and spend 4 days in Korea. In Korea you can tour most of the attractions in Seoul in one full day; then catch a Starcraft match if your timing is good, but you should meet people in Korea, it not fun otherwise, The best thing about Korea is the food, its awesome, but you need someone from TL to guide you a bit. In Japan, wow, everything is a sight and you will amazed. Thing is Korea and Japan developed very differently for urban and traditional things because Korea got forced into modernization under colonization by Japan, then everything got razed down by the North Korean invasion so its like by 1955 things start to rebuild, but by the 1960's Philippines economy was probably three times the size of South Korea. While in Japan, other than the bombings, they have had over 130 year of urban development and their aesthetic taste is second to none. Are there many cool historical sites or did those get razed to the ground as well? Any cool castles, temples, etc, or would you say China/Japan rank much better for historical tourism? What about scenery? Not sure if you're familiar with China tourism, but anything that can compare to Tiger Leaping Gorge or Emei Shan, Huang Shan, etc?
Most got razed down but rebuilt, in Gwanghwa-moon, is where the imperial palace is as well as the princess's palace, lots of small temples, but not kept up like Japan, many truly great older temples, were dismantled and transfered to Japan during that period of occupation lol. Korea is fundamentally a folk culture, so our design level is not very high (but our engineer is very practical), so for historical tourism Japan and China are much better places.
BUT, as a man, there is no better place in the world to visit with friends, and the food is beyond tasty and well if you're looking for SC, where in the world is it better than in Korea? So if you have friends in Korea, this is the best place to be for a tour, but if not, then China/Japan much much better.
Also, I'm not that familiar with China tourism, but enough to say the above.
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On February 23 2011 07:15 mizU wrote:
(For comparison, don't mean to hijack your thread)
China is pretty amazing, certain parts that is.
I went to the huge clay army in Xian, it was kinda boring, too commercialized.
The great wall is an amazing experience, though, I'd recommend everyone go, if you visit China.
Also the Summer Palace, and Forbidden City are all pretty amazing.
Basically anywhere in Japan is really nice. I went to this one Shinto temple (I think), and it was amazing. Everything was so nice, and there was this foresty/lake place with little waterfalls, gorgeous scenery and foliage. I wish I got to see more of Japan, but I was only there for 4 days, most of which was spent shopping and eating.
Yes, nothing like that is comparable in Korea, except the shopping and eating.
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On February 23 2011 09:19 Irrational_Animal wrote:
One questions that bothers me (I have a korean girl friend as well): Why are there almost no couples with a korean man and a "western" woman even though there are plenty of the reversed combination?
Because Korean men generally only like Korea women. They love being called 'oppa' (what a girl calls an older brother), and Western women tend not to aggressive approach Asia men in general, unlike Western men who will seek out Korean women.
Also Korean women, being the wonderful creatures that they are, are open and giving and if they find love, they will be with any man who exhibits the same protective characters that Korean men have, AND may find it better because many Korean men are also protective as well as dominating.
The only place where I see this trend is bucked, is white women who have their Masters or PHD, they tend to be very attracted to Korean men.
For native Korean men, we generally don't care if Korean women date foreigners, but many overseas Koreans care if Korean women date foreigners.
My feeling is that, Korea women are wondeful and if you should lucky to have a Koren girlfriend and you can stand their irrational psychotic behavior once a week, then you're likely to have a great relationship as Korean women are very caring, beautiful and passionate. But in Korea, there are lot of women, so even if every foreigner who came here had a Korean wife, they'd still be lots of women left anyways. Also some Korean girls don't like Korean society, so they wouldn't be acceptable girlfriends or wives anyways because they would complain too much and be depressed and no Korean man likes a complaining woman.
But in foreign countries, the Korean men who are there also may not represent the best we have to offer, while the Korean women tend to get very handsome or well off foreigners. Personally, I have dated all types of women and honestly, I think that foreign women are very attracted to a Korean man's manliness, but we don't generally display that to these women.
1. Because these women are not really women to us (I hate to say it, but sometimes their proportions are too extreme)
2. Also, we are more concentrated on being polite than being social when overseas.
But usually after drinks all the women are charmed, but make no doubt about it; even with me, foreign women will look at me like someone 'cute' or 'intellegent' but not sexual, until after a bit of fun.
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 09:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
MightyAtom-hyung,
Where do you go to find pretty Korean Ladies? Are Karaoke Bars popular?
Everywhere in Korea, not kidding.
For picking up, any drinking establishment which is in the HongDae, Gangnam and university areas.
Nora-bangs (singing rooms) are very popular but open mic Karaoke bars are not at all, but if you hook up with a lady and her friends, you will usually end up in a Norabang afterwards.
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MightyAtom-hyung,
What are some books that you believe that are essential to read?
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My goodness, hyung, you ARE a guru.
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Can you explain korean manliness?
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Ah, Hyung, if I had met you earlier how much time I would have saved ^^
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On February 23 2011 14:31 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 06:22 The_LiNk wrote:On February 23 2011 03:35 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 02:40 The_LiNk wrote:
Status wise, how important is the university you go to? Especially if you're a foreigner and went to a university outside of Korea. In Korea EXTREMELY important, the only thing that trumps it is your actual job. But something like 50% of professional jobs are taken by Seoul national grads, and 30% by Korea and Yonsei and 20% all others and there are like 10 other respectable schools. If you are foreigner and went to university, then its great, you are considered an educated foreigner, and if you went to an ivy league, you are considered god-like. Can I achieve at least Demi-god with University of Toronto? Best I can do unfortunately. No, but a nod of respect is all you get, that's all I get too. ^^
Sigh, guess the "public ivies" don't count eh
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What do Koreans think of Filipinos? (And I agree with Koreans being hot when they want to be.  )
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a good ability to read the social situation without words.
If you needed to teach someone a crash course on what nunchi is, how to get better nunchi..etc.
what would you say? I believe having a strong nunchi is quite useful in Korea (esp if ur not korean), agree?
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On February 23 2011 19:54 mel_ee wrote:If you needed to teach someone a crash course on what nunchi is, how to get better nunchi..etc. what would you say? I believe having a strong nunchi is quite useful in Korea (esp if ur not korean), would you agree?
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a good ability to read the social situation without words.
If you needed to teach someone a crash course on what nunchi is, how to get better nunchi..etc.
what would you say? I believe having a strong nunchi is quite useful in Korea (esp if ur not korean), would you agree?
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lol mel_ee, how do you manage to make a post, then make an empty post just quoting that post, and then reposting that first post a second time? xD
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 15:51 doihy wrote:
MightyAtom-hyung,
What are some books that you believe that are essential to read?
Essential books;
1. You should be reading 1 book a week, if it is a good book, carry it around with you for three months.
2. Eventually after doing this for 3-5 years, most books you pick up to read, you'll notice that they are crap.
3. Then find a good quality book to read every 1 month.
Now these are my essential books that are pertinent to me but were helpful for my development;
but I'll list 3 books you should read in anycase.
1. NewTestment Bible, NIV version.
2. The Republic, Plato
3. Good to Great, Jim Collins
4. Essential Drucker
5. From the Gut, Jack Welch
Optional
6. 33 laws of war
7. 48 laws of power
8. Generation to Generation: Friedman
9. digital mcluhan: Paul Levinson
10. Liars Poker: Michael Lewis
11. The big short: Micheal Lewis
12. Confessions of a Street Addict; Jim Crammer
13.The Warren Buffet Way: Hagstrom
14. Reality Check: Guy Kawasaki
15. The Crucified God: Jugen Moltmann (not for the faint of heart)
16. Crossing the Chasm: Moore
17. Positioning: Al Ries
Its not an exhaustive list, but from looking at my book shelf, it is what stands out. I'd say that if I had a burning house and I'd try to save these copies.
Thing is reading books has different effects on you at different points in your life;
I thought Platos republic was mind-blowing the first time I read it, and now, just ok, but it had this special place in my own development, same like most of the books here, really ground breaking books in how I looked or began to articulate things.
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:24 mizU wrote:
My goodness, hyung, you ARE a guru.
Every hyung is a hyung because they care, my own hyung (real brother) always had the right answer for me. ^^
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 16:41 hammeronetime wrote:
Can you explain korean manliness?
1. Be a true friend and love your friends
2. Protect the weak
3. Speak you mind when its necessary
4. Never suffer fools, let them destroy themselves
5. Be quick to get angry for injustice and be ready to fight
6. Always have good manners
7. Always tell your friends the truth
8. Always be ready to sympathize for your friends
9. Never refuse a drink offer with good intent
10. Always protect the women and children
11. Never lose your patience with children
12. Exert your power over women as a responsibility to protect them and keep them well, never to dominate them
13. Don't speak to create politics or drama
14. Only your wife matters when it comes to women
15. Lead women, never follow, but listen, but only if they are not acting crazy (Korean women tend to act crazy once a week)
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On February 23 2011 16:55 Rainmaker5 wrote:
Ah, Hyung, if I had met you earlier how much time I would have saved ^^
Ah but now you appreciate it and understand it, whereas probably in the past you wouldn't have ^^
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On February 23 2011 17:17 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 14:31 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 06:22 The_LiNk wrote:On February 23 2011 03:35 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 02:40 The_LiNk wrote:
Status wise, how important is the university you go to? Especially if you're a foreigner and went to a university outside of Korea. In Korea EXTREMELY important, the only thing that trumps it is your actual job. But something like 50% of professional jobs are taken by Seoul national grads, and 30% by Korea and Yonsei and 20% all others and there are like 10 other respectable schools. If you are foreigner and went to university, then its great, you are considered an educated foreigner, and if you went to an ivy league, you are considered god-like. Can I achieve at least Demi-god with University of Toronto? Best I can do unfortunately. No, but a nod of respect is all you get, that's all I get too. ^^ Sigh, guess the "public ivies" don't count eh
Sorry, but at least you're educated.
Once when I was at campus, some foreigner exchange was explaining everything about the world to his Korean friends (so much bs) and they asked him in their so/so English where did they study (and I was just pretending to be non English speaker in the background) and he says, I studied at the top university in Canada, Trent. And I blurted out in my native English tongue, by mistake, ' You gotta be fucking kidding me!', he turned white then murmured something then walked away. ^^
Similar thing happened at the movies too keke, so if you are a foreigner you can get away with lots of lies, unless there is someone like me sitting nearby you with fluent English and a professional background keke.
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Why are Korean women crazy once a week? Don't get me wrong, women are crazy, but why specifically once a week (rather than once a month?)
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 19:46 Ciryandor wrote:What do Koreans think of Filipinos? (And I agree with Koreans being hot when they want to be. )
Koreans think negatively of Filipinos because most interaction they have with Filipinos is as entertainers here in Korea, also because of the economic disparity between the economies now, when Koreans visit the Philippines, they think that its dangerous, cheap and dirty. BUT, that is the general public who can't afford to fly anywhere but the Philippines. For the upper class who know other upper class Filipinos we think that they are very kind and well mannered, but not very good for long term business planning.
Generally Koreans are a xenophobic race, we don't think that anyone outside of Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and White people are considered humans upon first glance. But I use the word, xenophobic because its not racist, but pure ignorance; once you become friends with a Korean, they can be a life long friend regardless of race.
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 19:54 mel_ee wrote:If you needed to teach someone a crash course on what nunchi is, how to get better nunchi..etc. what would you say? I believe having a strong nunchi is quite useful in Korea (esp if ur not korean), agree?
100% agree,
easiest way for foreigners,
STOP TALKING SO DAMN MUCH,
observe and try to end an argument in 2 short sentences.
if you can do that, that means your nunchi guided you to say and identify what was the real issue, not the one that you assume everyone is talking about.
But nunchi is a very advanced cultural skill, if you are from a low class background, your nunchi wont' be as highly developed from a higher class background.
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 21:27 MisterD wrote:
lol mel_ee, how do you manage to make a post, then make an empty post just quoting that post, and then reposting that first post a second time? xD
I thought the very same thing ^^
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Two questions:
1. How would you explain the Korean Starcraft phenomenon to a foreigner (non-Korean)? Have you ever been in a situation where it becomes a topic of conversation with non-Koreans?
2. Given the competitiveness of Korean society (as you have explained it), how does progaming fits into it? I live in the United States, and my personal experience is that gaming is still looked down upon by people over 35. After what you said in your blogs, it sounds a bit illogical that of all countries, progaming would develop in Korea.
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On February 23 2011 22:26 VManOfMana wrote:
Two questions:
1. How would you explain the Korean Starcraft phenomenon to a foreigner (non-Korean)? Have you ever been in a situation where it becomes a topic of conversation with non-Koreans?
2. Given the competitiveness of Korean society (as you have explained it), how does progaming fits into it? I live in the United States, and my personal experience is that gaming is still looked down upon by people over 35. After what you said in your blogs, it sounds a bit illogical that of all countries, progaming would develop in Korea.
Yeah, do you think it's because competitive society is generating so much stress that Korean people are (or maybe have to be) tolerant to a wider variety of stress relievers than Westerners?
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Here is my issue ;
I've met a korean girl at a place I go to pretty often, and at some point I ended up asking for a picture with her (she's really beautiful), as they take picture of the people coming in at the end of the event, and asked her name before leaving. After that she started to come to me when I happened to be at the same place (at an event, in the subway, etc..) to talk and whatnot. Before all that a friend confirmed me that she would glance at me pretty often when I was around (I noticed it because I have a hard time getting my eyes off her myself). So after all that I figure she would be interested in me in some way, but being the retard that I'm I took a very long time to actually try to make something happen, and she backed off a bit and wasn't really coming to me anymore.
So when valentine day came I finally decided to make a move and sent her a chocolate box along with a rose with written "happy valentine day" in korean, signed from me, via a co-worker of hers that I know pretty well (I couldn't go there myself obviously). So when I saw her a few days later I asked if she received it etc and if she liked and smiled giggle a bit saying that yeah she liked it, so later on this day I tried to invite her for dinner the night of her last work day of the week, but she basically said she's working late and has to get home afterwards, so that she couldn't. I told her I would drive her home back anyway but I don't think she clearly understood that (her english is decent but she's not fluent), and when I proposed the next day which is her day off she said that she's resting on that day (it's her only day off).
So basically I don't really know if I could take that as a no and her being too nice to tell me directly or if she really is too busy and too tired with work etc. I'm even more confused as she clearly seemed interested at first, unless I'm completely misunderstanding the situation.
I also know that it's korean girls who actually are supposed to send chocolate on valentine's day in korea, and that men do it the next month, but I still did it cause I'm not korean and I thought I could get away with it as I'm not supposed to know that kind of things as a foreigner.
It also doesn't make sense to me as I think they would expect men to take the initiative, so I just did.
Also I almost forgot, we are both 23.
Sorry for the long post but I felt you would need some details to help me figure it out, and I really need to settle this as it's ruining my focus a lot and I can't practice nor perform decently anymore
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On February 23 2011 21:53 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 19:46 Ciryandor wrote:What do Koreans think of Filipinos? (And I agree with Koreans being hot when they want to be. ) Generally Koreans are a xenophobic race, we don't think that anyone outside of Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and White people are considered humans upon first glance. But I use the word, xenophobic because its not racist, but pure ignorance; once you become friends with a Korean, they can be a life long friend regardless of race.
Don't forget Indians,we have good population of Koreans in India,and the city I currently reside in(Chennai) has probably the biggest amount!Hell my neighbours are koreans,although they don't like talking to me becuase they are afraid of my mom(lol,a story better left unsaid until the right time).
anyways,how is a relationship between Kodeh and a Yodeh(spelling?),during the unversity years as opposed to after university?
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On February 23 2011 04:09 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 03:56 thedeadhaji wrote:On February 23 2011 03:37 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 03:04 thedeadhaji wrote:
What would you say to the naysayers against MBA programs? Get your freaking MBA punks. How would you respond to Guy Kawasaki? What is the value of an MBA these days for young college graduates who want to start their own company?
Probably about a negative $250,000. (I have an MBA, and I was once a young college graduate.) I don’t think an MBA matters very much for starting a company. A much better educational background is an engineering degree. You can always hire MBAs, but if you don’t have the ability to conceptualize and deliver a product, you’ve got nothing. I love Guy, but he a product guy and I'm a process guy. His context is the start-up, my context is running a business properly and its very different. If you're interested in doing a start-up then take his route, but while an MBA may only be considered a basic necessity now rather than plus, its just shows how competitive everything has been. But I agree, an MBA for a start up company that is creating a product, not useful. An MBA in my case where I am basically building up 2 global gaming brands and my entry as as senior consultant and senior executive, because I had and MBA, well extremely useful, and what the hell is 250k? Go to Singapore or Hong Kong and do your MBA and work overseas, cause what trumps an MBA is the first firm you work for after your MBA and that will define you more than your MBA. You take an engineer and put him in my job without an MBA, he'd get eaten alive. Plus, honestly Guy, aside from being in Apple, what is his major win that came more from products more than his business sense? Cause I think he has impeccable business and managerial.marketing sense.
Thnx, hard to disagree here
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how does a man make decisions? is there a general formal process? is it ever a good idea to delay a decision?
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On February 23 2011 03:17 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 02:29 l0st_romantic wrote:
What decision points did you face stepping off the corporate ladder into entrepreneurship? What was the "event horizon" in terms of when beyond that point, a return to the corporate ladder could not get you to the same position/level as you would had you stayed in your previous job?
What are your biggest tips for balancing a family life with making the jump into entrepreneurship? Basically, every man has a shelf life of peak performance, at 35 I knew that if I didn't make a move now, I'd never make a move ever, not in the same way and I thought in a 5 year window before 40, I still had the physical stamina to take on the full operations myself (although this is much tougher than it was when I was 32 having already put myself through hell to climb the ladder). So I didn't want to regret this moment and I knew that I would never be the same combination of stamina, experience and mental ability all this level. But the biggest thing was stamina. People think that they work hard, boy, they don't know shit. It one things to work hard at the same routine job, its another to work on a different job every single day and problem solve major issues every single day for 3 years straight while doing non stop travel and literally 5 days off in 2 years. But, that also gave me confidence that I could do it if I needed to. But I dont' like to use the word entrepreneur, I'd like to just think I transitioned over to the equity circle. The event horizon is about 2 years; because if I fail at that point, I will need to re-enter at a much lower level such as a manager level and work my way back up which will take another 2 years. So I'd just be hitting 42 or so at the twilight of my professional work horse stamina. But the opportunity cost of the next 5 years would have been significant at least 3 M had I just stayed put. But on the flip side, not doing it would have been a life time of regret. Biggest tips, you know all those stories you read when the entrepreneur says that they maxed out all their credit cards and their family was all stressed and it was hell. All fucking true. Didn't think it would happen to me, but sold my house, and basically living off of savings while everything that can go wrong goes wrong and every short cut is a dead end, but keeping things in perspective, I tell my wife, baby, no matter what, in 5 years I we will be fine no matter what and our kids will only be like 7 years old their whole lives ahead of them anyways. But of course my wife says 'what about now!', but i'd say, no balance exists, but keep your eyes on the goal line, its the only way to keep everything together. On the point of why its like-the entire capital strapped thing; had I stayed for an additional year, I wasn't confident that I would ever leave and that is what happens to a lot of senior executives.
Thanks hyung.
I really like the phrase "transitioned over to the equity circle", haha. The shit that you've been through puts Modigliani-Miller in perspective... perfect information in an economy is such an unrealisitc assumption; equity will never be the same price as debt.
I actually had kind of a question about Asian business culture, and Korean business culture specifically. I assume that you've had dealings with Chinese, Korean, and Japanese businessmen--what are the differences in the male business culture between the three? Do these differences become bigger or smaller when you are dealing with entrepreneurs/equity-holders as opposed to corporate bureaucrats?
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 21:50 Cedstick wrote:
Why are Korean women crazy once a week? Don't get me wrong, women are crazy, but why specifically once a week (rather than once a month?)
All Koreans are fundamentally irrational emotional people, but men are better at controlling it except when they are angry. Whereas Korean women need to suddenly freak out for no reason randomly because they don't express their emotion through anger, so become irrationally unreasonable once a week is their outlet. It's not a PMS thing, its a Korean thing and perfectly normal. During this time you allow them to vent and say crazy things, but then when they get out of control (cause they will work themselves up to a frenzy) give them a stare and say, ok, enough! And they should return to normal after muttering something under their breath.
But, if you as a man have not been blameless, then just let it run its course, or she will really go psychotic and get crazy on you and point out all the shit you did wrong or are not doing right. You can only shush your woman if you are totally blameless and after she has vented enough. If you are a foreigner, I'd suggest just letting them rant themselves out because you won't have the 'nunchi' (eye sense) to know when to say, enough.
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On February 23 2011 22:26 VManOfMana wrote:
Two questions:
1. How would you explain the Korean Starcraft phenomenon to a foreigner (non-Korean)? Have you ever been in a situation where it becomes a topic of conversation with non-Koreans?
2. Given the competitiveness of Korean society (as you have explained it), how does progaming fits into it? I live in the United States, and my personal experience is that gaming is still looked down upon by people over 35. After what you said in your blogs, it sounds a bit illogical that of all countries, progaming would develop in Korea.
1, Yes, but with non-gamers, they think it is very alien behavior- like out of this world- in this cases, I just say that in Korea, there is no such things as nerds, and that pc games are considered part of regular entertainment here and even celebrities play sc; so then they get it that way.
2. It was very looked down upon at first, but there are 2 aspects here: 1. SCBW required a lot of fucking skill and is uber uber competitive in Korea, so on that basis alone it qualifies and 2. the tournament and sponsorship amounts qualified it for 'sports team' status in Korea (so like if you were to be a foot baller or something) & the gov't supported it as a growth industry and designated on the tax form that you can be a professional pro-gamer, so it was legitimized by its skill/competition, salary levels and by the gov't. Additionally, many talented gamers come from many backgrounds, but this is a classic Korea success story formula, the same as getting into a good university: work your ass off and either get into a great university or be a progamer and for kids who dropped out of highschool, this was a legitimate ray of home to be a pro gamer in the views of Korean society (even though its so fucking fucking fucking fucking tough)
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I was wondering if it is possible for me to get an under the table job in Korea or any job for that matter as a foreigner without diploma. Also are tattoos taboo in Korea?
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 23 2011 23:24 beetlelisk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 22:26 VManOfMana wrote:
Two questions:
1. How would you explain the Korean Starcraft phenomenon to a foreigner (non-Korean)? Have you ever been in a situation where it becomes a topic of conversation with non-Koreans?
2. Given the competitiveness of Korean society (as you have explained it), how does progaming fits into it? I live in the United States, and my personal experience is that gaming is still looked down upon by people over 35. After what you said in your blogs, it sounds a bit illogical that of all countries, progaming would develop in Korea. Yeah, do you think it's because competitive society is generating so much stress that Korean people are (or maybe have to be) tolerant to a wider variety of stress relievers than Westerners?
Playing scbw is not stress relieving for Korean pro gamers, its because of too much academic competitive pressures that actually contribute to kids wanting to be a progamer rather than continue in school.
For the general population: we treat it like a sports league, so the fans view and play and for older guys, its fun in the PC bang. But for stress release, Koreans drink a lot; about once a week we get sloshed, we probably have one of the high rates of alcohol consumption in the developed countries.
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this man is very wise please listen to him fellow TLers. Great blog !5/5 stars.
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On February 24 2011 00:22 cArn- wrote:
Here is my issue ;
I've met a korean girl at a place I go to pretty often, and at some point I ended up asking for a picture with her (she's really beautiful), as they take picture of the people coming in at the end of the event, and asked her name before leaving. After that she started to come to me when I happened to be at the same place (at an event, in the subway, etc..) to talk and whatnot. Before all that a friend confirmed me that she would glance at me pretty often when I was around (I noticed it because I have a hard time getting my eyes off her myself). So after all that I figure she would be interested in me in some way, but being the retard that I'm I took a very long time to actually try to make something happen, and she backed off a bit and wasn't really coming to me anymore.
So when valentine day came I finally decided to make a move and sent her a chocolate box along with a rose with written "happy valentine day" in korean, signed from me, via a co-worker of hers that I know pretty well (I couldn't go there myself obviously). So when I saw her a few days later I asked if she received it etc and if she liked and smiled giggle a bit saying that yeah she liked it, so later on this day I tried to invite her for dinner the night of her last work day of the week, but she basically said she's working late and has to get home afterwards, so that she couldn't. I told her I would drive her home back anyway but I don't think she clearly understood that (her english is decent but she's not fluent), and when I proposed the next day which is her day off she said that she's resting on that day (it's her only day off).
So basically I don't really know if I could take that as a no and her being too nice to tell me directly or if she really is too busy and too tired with work etc. I'm even more confused as she clearly seemed interested at first, unless I'm completely misunderstanding the situation.
I also know that it's korean girls who actually are supposed to send chocolate on valentine's day in korea, and that men do it the next month, but I still did it cause I'm not korean and I thought I could get away with it as I'm not supposed to know that kind of things as a foreigner.
It also doesn't make sense to me as I think they would expect men to take the initiative, so I just did.
Also I almost forgot, we are both 23.
Sorry for the long post but I felt you would need some details to help me figure it out, and I really need to settle this as it's ruining my focus a lot and I can't practice nor perform decently anymore
She likes you, but she is shy or comes from a conservative house hold.
Keep mentioning that she is pretty;
go out for coffee with her during lunch
spend time together,
ask her if she has a boyfriend,
ask her about her family background
and she may really be actually tired etc.
there is a thing in korea called 'skin ship'
a play on friendship, but means when you hang out, you sit close to one another, you shoulders touch when sitting beside each other, you playfully hold hands etc.
if you get to the skinship level, she likes you 100%.
What you can do is this, one day later when you say, lets go for coffee and grab her hand so that you pull her towards the door,
if she pulls away immediately, gg -.-
if she squeezes your hand back, gg!
if she is limp but smiles, she is shy but good.
if she squeezes it back then hold on to it and be joyful,
if limp then let it go as soon as you pass the door way.
But, keep asking her out like this: what are you doing on your free day, the time she says, 'nothing' then you ask her to join you doing something (not asking her out, but say you are going somewhere and if she'd like to join you).
Now I give this advice this way, because I think she is shy or she is tired, but she likes you,
but if you like her, continue to tell her she looks great today (but not when she actually does look like shit or else she may think you are teasing her).
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On February 24 2011 00:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 21:53 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 19:46 Ciryandor wrote:What do Koreans think of Filipinos? (And I agree with Koreans being hot when they want to be. ) Generally Koreans are a xenophobic race, we don't think that anyone outside of Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and White people are considered humans upon first glance. But I use the word, xenophobic because its not racist, but pure ignorance; once you become friends with a Korean, they can be a life long friend regardless of race. Don't forget Indians,we have good population of Koreans in India,and the city I currently reside in(Chennai) has probably the biggest amount!Hell my neighbours are koreans,although they don't like talking to me becuase they are afraid of my mom(lol,a story better left unsaid until the right time). anyways,how is a relationship between Kodeh and a Yodeh(spelling?),during the unversity years as opposed to after university?
Almost the same as if we went to the same university, but we still make fun of each other ^^
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On February 24 2011 01:46 r3dox wrote:
how does a man make decisions? is there a general formal process? is it ever a good idea to delay a decision?
Now that is up to the individual and their personality. No formal process and depends on the situation to delay decision.
There are times to be aggressive, times to even appear to be a pussy when greater things are at stake, but I'd say the best way to define how a man makes a decision is
he is always being responsible in his decision; whether it is war and requires decisive action, or parenting a child and requires patience, he is always responsible for his actions and for others.
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On February 24 2011 01:58 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 21:50 Cedstick wrote:
Why are Korean women crazy once a week? Don't get me wrong, women are crazy, but why specifically once a week (rather than once a month?) All Koreans are fundamentally irrational emotional people, but men are better at controlling it except when they are angry. Whereas Korean women need to suddenly freak out for no reason randomly because they don't express their emotion through anger, so become irrationally unreasonable once a week is their outlet. It's not a PMS thing, its a Korean thing and perfectly normal. During this time you allow them to vent and say crazy things, but then when they get out of control (cause they will work themselves up to a frenzy) give them a stare and say, ok, enough! And they should return to normal after muttering something under their breath. But, if you as a man have not been blameless, then just let it run its course, or she will really go psychotic and get crazy on you and point out all the shit you did wrong or are not doing right. You can only shush your woman if you are totally blameless and after she has vented enough. If you are a foreigner, I'd suggest just letting them rant themselves out because you won't have the 'nunchi' (eye sense) to know when to say, enough.
Oh my god, I laughed so hard at this, 'cuz it's so god damn true XD My mother, my friends, my girlfriend... all so true, I never even realized it but when you mentioned it and I thought about it, everything you say is spot on. (Especially the return to normal after muttering something under their breath part, which is always just barely loud enough that you hear what they're saying just so they can get the last word and piss you off LOL. God, it's like a skill they all acquire when they grow up or something, lol)
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On February 24 2011 01:49 l0st_romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 03:17 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 02:29 l0st_romantic wrote:
What decision points did you face stepping off the corporate ladder into entrepreneurship? What was the "event horizon" in terms of when beyond that point, a return to the corporate ladder could not get you to the same position/level as you would had you stayed in your previous job?
What are your biggest tips for balancing a family life with making the jump into entrepreneurship? Basically, every man has a shelf life of peak performance, at 35 I knew that if I didn't make a move now, I'd never make a move ever, not in the same way and I thought in a 5 year window before 40, I still had the physical stamina to take on the full operations myself (although this is much tougher than it was when I was 32 having already put myself through hell to climb the ladder). So I didn't want to regret this moment and I knew that I would never be the same combination of stamina, experience and mental ability all this level. But the biggest thing was stamina. People think that they work hard, boy, they don't know shit. It one things to work hard at the same routine job, its another to work on a different job every single day and problem solve major issues every single day for 3 years straight while doing non stop travel and literally 5 days off in 2 years. But, that also gave me confidence that I could do it if I needed to. But I dont' like to use the word entrepreneur, I'd like to just think I transitioned over to the equity circle. The event horizon is about 2 years; because if I fail at that point, I will need to re-enter at a much lower level such as a manager level and work my way back up which will take another 2 years. So I'd just be hitting 42 or so at the twilight of my professional work horse stamina. But the opportunity cost of the next 5 years would have been significant at least 3 M had I just stayed put. But on the flip side, not doing it would have been a life time of regret. Biggest tips, you know all those stories you read when the entrepreneur says that they maxed out all their credit cards and their family was all stressed and it was hell. All fucking true. Didn't think it would happen to me, but sold my house, and basically living off of savings while everything that can go wrong goes wrong and every short cut is a dead end, but keeping things in perspective, I tell my wife, baby, no matter what, in 5 years I we will be fine no matter what and our kids will only be like 7 years old their whole lives ahead of them anyways. But of course my wife says 'what about now!', but i'd say, no balance exists, but keep your eyes on the goal line, its the only way to keep everything together. On the point of why its like-the entire capital strapped thing; had I stayed for an additional year, I wasn't confident that I would ever leave and that is what happens to a lot of senior executives. Thanks hyung. I really like the phrase "transitioned over to the equity circle", haha. The shit that you've been through puts Modigliani-Miller in perspective... perfect information in an economy is such an unrealisitc assumption; equity will never be the same price as debt. I actually had kind of a question about Asian business culture, and Korean business culture specifically. I assume that you've had dealings with Chinese, Korean, and Japanese businessmen--what are the differences in the male business culture between the three? Do these differences become bigger or smaller when you are dealing with entrepreneurs/equity-holders as opposed to corporate bureaucrats?
very insightful question,
very different because our cultures are so complex and huge differences between entrepreneurs/owners and corporate bureaucrats.
Chinese owners:
they need to trust you 100% and show you can 100% make a return without any micro management and will deliver exactly as you mentioned, but they are willing to take big risks for big return as long as you are very honest with them
Japanese owners:
will take a long time to make any decision for a new project, but if you are supporting theirs, it will be instant as long as you abide by their terms of what they think is fair compensation, if not, then the deal won't get done. Also you will have to do a fuck load of reporting.
Korean Owners:
if they like you and trust you, then they'll give you cash and no manage you at all, but you have to constantly maintain good relations, if you don't maintain good social regular relations, they will question you about the money, but they will give you chance to make up any losses as long as they still think you are of good character. You must over deliver if you take their cash and give them bonuses aside from the basic agreement as they sponsored you the same way. They are open to any new project doing anything even with a high degree of risk. They will also try to mentor you and take you on if you are young.
Chinese Bureaucrats
You must cooperate with them to make an under the table deal where they get a % of the deal, otherwise they may fuck you at any given time and say bad shit about you.
Japanese Bureaucrats
Same as owners but scared to do a deal without an insane amount of background due diligence and assurance that it will work with zero risk. Reporting and training and consulting will be huge factors in making the deal work.
Korean Bureaucrats
Have very little power, but if they like your character, they will help you get the deal done so that you guys can work together; if they think its good for the company, then it good for them to help them get the favour of the CEO and get a promotion or to keep their job.
Male business culture (working with them in general- its male cause business is done with just men)
Chinese, no friends, will betray you for money, but will work with you for money. If you bribe them will, they will protect your interests. Drinking culture is for entertainment purposes to show who has the biggest dick and who is most powerful.
Japanese, scared as hell, don't want to make a wrong move, even if they think you are good for the company they won't support your proposal until everyone simultaneously agrees, they will give you 'private support with insights on how to approach things' but wont' support you in public. Drinking culture is for stress release and for casual entertainment, use to be for power deals, but corporate japan is more health conscious now.
Korean, is willing to mix business with pleasure and friendship. But beware of a lot of office politics where you get caught in the middle and are used as a pawn. Koreans use drinking extensively in business to build relationships between staff and with clients, most stalemates are solved by getting drunk and making a compromise when drunk.
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On February 24 2011 02:10 Terrakin wrote:
I was wondering if it is possible for me to get an under the table job in Korea or any job for that matter as a foreigner without diploma. Also are tattoos taboo in Korea?
Yes, but its call the 3Ds, dirty dangerous and difficult, but those are for migrant workers and pay 2 dollars an hour.
For a white or overseas korean foreigner, you can work as private tutor, but only if someone can vouch for you and set this up through their own network. This is illegal.
Or,
You can attend university here and then tutor, which is legal.
Tattoos are taboo in Korea if they look like gangster yakuza tattoos, otherwise you may look like an artist or a rock and roller, but most saunas will have signs, no tattos at all, but they generally won't kick you out. In Japan, they will kick you out or not let you in.
In terms of using your English, you can get a job at a 'venture' start-up company for english translation work or international sales, but your pay will be 1k a month and they will treat you like shit.
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On February 24 2011 02:30 HeadhunteR wrote:
this man is very wise please listen to him fellow TLers. Great blog !5/5 stars.
Gamsah! ㄳ
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On February 24 2011 02:50 happyft wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 01:58 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 21:50 Cedstick wrote:
Why are Korean women crazy once a week? Don't get me wrong, women are crazy, but why specifically once a week (rather than once a month?) All Koreans are fundamentally irrational emotional people, but men are better at controlling it except when they are angry. Whereas Korean women need to suddenly freak out for no reason randomly because they don't express their emotion through anger, so become irrationally unreasonable once a week is their outlet. It's not a PMS thing, its a Korean thing and perfectly normal. During this time you allow them to vent and say crazy things, but then when they get out of control (cause they will work themselves up to a frenzy) give them a stare and say, ok, enough! And they should return to normal after muttering something under their breath. But, if you as a man have not been blameless, then just let it run its course, or she will really go psychotic and get crazy on you and point out all the shit you did wrong or are not doing right. You can only shush your woman if you are totally blameless and after she has vented enough. If you are a foreigner, I'd suggest just letting them rant themselves out because you won't have the 'nunchi' (eye sense) to know when to say, enough. Oh my god, I laughed so hard at this, 'cuz it's so god damn true XD My mother, my friends, my girlfriend... all so true, I never even realized it but when you mentioned it and I thought about it, everything you say is spot on. (Especially the return to normal after muttering something under their breath part, which is always just barely loud enough that you hear what they're saying just so they can get the last word and piss you off LOL. God, it's like a skill they all acquire when they grow up or something, lol)
Its genetic, but don't let them get away with it more than once a week or it becomes habit for them ^^ but a small price to pay for having a Korean woman who are about 100times better than us useless men.
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On February 24 2011 01:58 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 21:50 Cedstick wrote:
Why are Korean women crazy once a week? Don't get me wrong, women are crazy, but why specifically once a week (rather than once a month?) All Koreans are fundamentally irrational emotional people, but men are better at controlling it except when they are angry. Whereas Korean women need to suddenly freak out for no reason randomly because they don't express their emotion through anger, so become irrationally unreasonable once a week is their outlet. It's not a PMS thing, its a Korean thing and perfectly normal. During this time you allow them to vent and say crazy things, but then when they get out of control (cause they will work themselves up to a frenzy) give them a stare and say, ok, enough! And they should return to normal after muttering something under their breath. But, if you as a man have not been blameless, then just let it run its course, or she will really go psychotic and get crazy on you and point out all the shit you did wrong or are not doing right. You can only shush your woman if you are totally blameless and after she has vented enough. If you are a foreigner, I'd suggest just letting them rant themselves out because you won't have the 'nunchi' (eye sense) to know when to say, enough.
Haha, I think this nunchi phenomenon is quite similar to the Chinese skill "kan lian si" (translation: reading expressions).
I used to get beaten by my mom all the time because she said I didn't know how to read expressions, as in I couldn't judge the proper time to say or do something in a situation.
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On February 24 2011 03:39 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 01:58 MightyAtom wrote:On February 23 2011 21:50 Cedstick wrote:
Why are Korean women crazy once a week? Don't get me wrong, women are crazy, but why specifically once a week (rather than once a month?) All Koreans are fundamentally irrational emotional people, but men are better at controlling it except when they are angry. Whereas Korean women need to suddenly freak out for no reason randomly because they don't express their emotion through anger, so become irrationally unreasonable once a week is their outlet. It's not a PMS thing, its a Korean thing and perfectly normal. During this time you allow them to vent and say crazy things, but then when they get out of control (cause they will work themselves up to a frenzy) give them a stare and say, ok, enough! And they should return to normal after muttering something under their breath. But, if you as a man have not been blameless, then just let it run its course, or she will really go psychotic and get crazy on you and point out all the shit you did wrong or are not doing right. You can only shush your woman if you are totally blameless and after she has vented enough. If you are a foreigner, I'd suggest just letting them rant themselves out because you won't have the 'nunchi' (eye sense) to know when to say, enough. Haha, I think this nunchi phenomenon is quite similar to the Chinese skill "kan lian si" (translation: reading expressions). I used to get beaten by my mom all the time because she said I didn't know how to read expressions, as in I couldn't judge the proper time to say or do something in a situation.
Sounds very similar, but we take it as a natural skill set, either you really have it or not really ^^
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Yeah with Chinese we believe it's something learned and innate, of course some better than others, but generally it comes with proper breeding, upbringing, and learning. Confucian etc :D.
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How do you overcome sadness? I'm 24 now, I messed up with 2 schools believe it or not, but now I'm at a college that as far as delivering quality education is far below my standards. However, thankfully they offer a co-op which is currently very satisfying in educating and giving me experience I was after. To put things further in perspective, my brother is becoming a lawyer over at UofA and my younger brother is finishing his major in Neurobiology at Harvard of all places with his eye on a Phd I'm proud of them but I don't want to be left in the dust with a college diploma :S which is not entirely bad but I'm fuzzy on job prospects. I consider myself very intelligent and many other good things but not getting the foot in the door is my greatest fear. Not only that but my engineering 'buds' are boasting their Toronto lifestyles etc and I'm stuck at home like a nobody, only partying with them once every couple of months because of my poverty. So now. I'm getting killer grades and have good favor of many of the professors. My aim is to cut off 2 years from a comp sci program and finally get a degree at 27ish years of age and that's only if I manage to cut the program in half. Then I have to get a job and get a life. It's painful to even think about. Your thoughts?
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On February 24 2011 02:14 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 23:24 beetlelisk wrote:On February 23 2011 22:26 VManOfMana wrote:
Two questions:
1. How would you explain the Korean Starcraft phenomenon to a foreigner (non-Korean)? Have you ever been in a situation where it becomes a topic of conversation with non-Koreans?
2. Given the competitiveness of Korean society (as you have explained it), how does progaming fits into it? I live in the United States, and my personal experience is that gaming is still looked down upon by people over 35. After what you said in your blogs, it sounds a bit illogical that of all countries, progaming would develop in Korea. Yeah, do you think it's because competitive society is generating so much stress that Korean people are (or maybe have to be) tolerant to a wider variety of stress relievers than Westerners? Playing scbw is not stress relieving for Korean pro gamers, its because of too much academic competitive pressures that actually contribute to kids wanting to be a progamer rather than continue in school. For the general population: we treat it like a sports league, so the fans view and play and for older guys, its fun in the PC bang. But for stress release, Koreans drink a lot; about once a week we get sloshed, we probably have one of the high rates of alcohol consumption in the developed countries.
So it's just natural, nice ^__^
Generation or 2 and gaming will take over West too...
I'm not sure if I understand correctly what is nunchi: in short it's an ability to read other people's emotions and knowing how to react properly?
I wanted to say "sort of empathy" but way more calculated?
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nunchi is basically being able to read subtleties in social situations and acting accordingly.
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Dave-hyung for president...
He changed my life. True story.
Insta-5/5 ofc.
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On February 24 2011 04:32 alexpnd wrote:How do you overcome sadness? I'm 24 now, I messed up with 2 schools believe it or not, but now I'm at a college that as far as delivering quality education is far below my standards. However, thankfully they offer a co-op which is currently very satisfying in educating and giving me experience I was after. To put things further in perspective, my brother is becoming a lawyer over at UofA and my younger brother is finishing his major in Neurobiology at Harvard of all places with his eye on a Phd I'm proud of them but I don't want to be left in the dust with a college diploma :S which is not entirely bad but I'm fuzzy on job prospects. I consider myself very intelligent and many other good things but not getting the foot in the door is my greatest fear. Not only that but my engineering 'buds' are boasting their Toronto lifestyles etc and I'm stuck at home like a nobody, only partying with them once every couple of months because of my poverty. So now. I'm getting killer grades and have good favor of many of the professors. My aim is to cut off 2 years from a comp sci program and finally get a degree at 27ish years of age and that's only if I manage to cut the program in half. Then I have to get a job and get a life. It's painful to even think about. Your thoughts?
First off, you're still young, its hard to put that into perspective, but you are.
If you are successful at age 28, or 35, when you're 40, did it really matter when you were successful or when you got on your path?
Intelligence is via genetics, that's my thought on it, if you say you're intelligent, I believe it,
but maybe you're too intelligent that is why you messed up with your first 2 schools.
When you're young and smart, things come easy, so it is hard to feel any desperation or even appreciation for getting good results, because you inherently think that because you are intelligent, that in itself is enough. But when the results are starkly contrary to your own self image, is when you get the reality check.
Being too intelligent is a crutch as well, because unless your IQ is plus 170, the material will eventually be harder than you can instantly process, thus when this occurs: this is a new situation where you actually have struggle and your ego would rather just pass it off instead of putting the hard work into it.
Let me ask you a serious question; if you were to go back in time, as you are now, and then meet yourself at the first school and say, LISTEN ALEXPND, YOU KNOW THIS IS YOUR FUTURE SELF, if you dont' fucking start to study now, you're fucked and you're gonna end up in a low end college, fucking study now!'
do you really think you would have listened to your future self and averted the disaster?
Then you visit yourself again in the second school and same thing. No, a guy like you doesn't listen until they get to a point where they at the bottom and there are no more chances yet to simply not apply yourself.
For you, this is the best thing that could have happened to you, because if you really are as smart as you think you are, then where you were educated is virtually irrelevant if you can prove your worth in the work force. And make no doubt about it, you're still gonna have to work for those diplomas and maybe do more schooling and work harder when you are in your first real shitty job.
But here is the thing, a guy like you, if you get past this, the fact that you can't rest on your laurels with a nice shiny prime A degree or ivy school pedigree, this will be a chip on your shoulder and you will work hard to put this deep in your past. So you will work harder, longer, better and you will continue to improve yourself and do better and never stop achieving. When you are in that company the CEO will notice you are different, you are better and you're hungry.
When others think they are established at 30, you'll just be getting out of the gutter into the sunlight, but you will continue to be better and when you compare the fact that you never stopped learning, going forward, by the time you compare your achievements at 35, you''ll be light years ahead of those who thought they made it when they graduated from a good school or as a professional.
Embrace your situation as a wake up call, forget about living it up now, focus, concentrate and fight to get back into the game and become a warrior and be the best in the field and never ever stop.
Heroes are made this way, so stop being a pussy and thinking about what was or what is now or what will be. Just fight the good fight and know that your damn intelligence got you in this mess, and now that you've finally learned how to use it properly for other than your ego, nothing can stop you from moving up, even if you are at the bottom now. Just never stop and be the fucking hero.
^^
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On February 24 2011 05:01 LosingID8 wrote:
nunchi is basically being able to read subtleties in social situations and acting accordingly.
yes that is it.
if it is really developed then you can anticipate someone's questioning with the answer before they actually speak, thus rendering people speechless.
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On February 24 2011 05:28 SushilS wrote:
Dave-hyung for president...
He changed my life. True story.
Insta-5/5 ofc.
Being Hyung is enough ^^ oh and don't be a politician,
make money without fame is the best way to live.
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Hahaha, loved your answer. Women: robots with de-compression timers XD
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I live with someone right now and I am scared of the consequences. I dont think I'm ready to give in yet. I constantly think about all the beautiful women that I will never get to know if I stay with this one. I also think she is not the best I can score, even though I'm not 100% sure on that one. Another thing that troubles me is that she isn't the brightest girl I've met, the point about intelligence being hereditary is valid in my eyes. But it is very likely that no one else will love me as much as she does and no one else will be closer and more honest with me than she is. It's like she's never really grown up. She is only a year younger than I am which is not good either seeing how I'm starting to feel old.
Do you think that marrying someone should be based upon social status and qualities rather than 'love'? When do you know it's time to get married?
Also what bothers me a great deal is that she will suffer a lot from breaking up with me. She was about to give up on trying to find her man right before we met. I'm afraid of all the consequences of that possible breakup and of her not being able to handle it. How do you break up with someone you care so much for?
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my former politics and history teacher always said he married his wife not out of love, but because of tax privileges (which is indeed somewhat significant here in Germany afaik).
(Yes he was always ironic about everything ;P )
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On February 24 2011 02:34 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 00:22 cArn- wrote:
Here is my issue ;
I've met a korean girl at a place I go to pretty often, and at some point I ended up asking for a picture with her (she's really beautiful), as they take picture of the people coming in at the end of the event, and asked her name before leaving. After that she started to come to me when I happened to be at the same place (at an event, in the subway, etc..) to talk and whatnot. Before all that a friend confirmed me that she would glance at me pretty often when I was around (I noticed it because I have a hard time getting my eyes off her myself). So after all that I figure she would be interested in me in some way, but being the retard that I'm I took a very long time to actually try to make something happen, and she backed off a bit and wasn't really coming to me anymore.
So when valentine day came I finally decided to make a move and sent her a chocolate box along with a rose with written "happy valentine day" in korean, signed from me, via a co-worker of hers that I know pretty well (I couldn't go there myself obviously). So when I saw her a few days later I asked if she received it etc and if she liked and smiled giggle a bit saying that yeah she liked it, so later on this day I tried to invite her for dinner the night of her last work day of the week, but she basically said she's working late and has to get home afterwards, so that she couldn't. I told her I would drive her home back anyway but I don't think she clearly understood that (her english is decent but she's not fluent), and when I proposed the next day which is her day off she said that she's resting on that day (it's her only day off).
So basically I don't really know if I could take that as a no and her being too nice to tell me directly or if she really is too busy and too tired with work etc. I'm even more confused as she clearly seemed interested at first, unless I'm completely misunderstanding the situation.
I also know that it's korean girls who actually are supposed to send chocolate on valentine's day in korea, and that men do it the next month, but I still did it cause I'm not korean and I thought I could get away with it as I'm not supposed to know that kind of things as a foreigner.
It also doesn't make sense to me as I think they would expect men to take the initiative, so I just did.
Also I almost forgot, we are both 23.
Sorry for the long post but I felt you would need some details to help me figure it out, and I really need to settle this as it's ruining my focus a lot and I can't practice nor perform decently anymore She likes you, but she is shy or comes from a conservative house hold. Keep mentioning that she is pretty; go out for coffee with her during lunch spend time together, ask her if she has a boyfriend, ask her about her family background and she may really be actually tired etc. there is a thing in korea called 'skin ship' a play on friendship, but means when you hang out, you sit close to one another, you shoulders touch when sitting beside each other, you playfully hold hands etc. if you get to the skinship level, she likes you 100%. What you can do is this, one day later when you say, lets go for coffee and grab her hand so that you pull her towards the door, if she pulls away immediately, gg -.- if she squeezes your hand back, gg! if she is limp but smiles, she is shy but good. if she squeezes it back then hold on to it and be joyful, if limp then let it go as soon as you pass the door way. But, keep asking her out like this: what are you doing on your free day, the time she says, 'nothing' then you ask her to join you doing something (not asking her out, but say you are going somewhere and if she'd like to join you). Now I give this advice this way, because I think she is shy or she is tired, but she likes you, but if you like her, continue to tell her she looks great today (but not when she actually does look like shit or else she may think you are teasing her).
Thanks a lot ! I had some ideas about how to go about it and wasn't too sure if that was the right things to do but now I have a much better idea of how to handle this.
Always love your blogs hyung :
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how do you make sure you wake up on time? i can set 5 alarms on my phone and put it in another room, but if im sleepy enough ill just get up, turn the alarm off, get back into bed, and fall right back asleep.
this usually happens after im up all night studying. ;_;
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On February 24 2011 08:02 Cedstick wrote:
Hahaha, loved your answer. Women: robots with de-compression timers XD
keke, good summary ^^
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On February 24 2011 09:47 thehorsebecomesking wrote:
I live with someone right now and I am scared of the consequences. I dont think I'm ready to give in yet. I constantly think about all the beautiful women that I will never get to know if I stay with this one. I also think she is not the best I can score, even though I'm not 100% sure on that one. Another thing that troubles me is that she isn't the brightest girl I've met, the point about intelligence being hereditary is valid in my eyes. But it is very likely that no one else will love me as much as she does and no one else will be closer and more honest with me than she is. It's like she's never really grown up. She is only a year younger than I am which is not good either seeing how I'm starting to feel old.
Do you think that marrying someone should be based upon social status and qualities rather than 'love'? When do you know it's time to get married?
Also what bothers me a great deal is that she will suffer a lot from breaking up with me. She was about to give up on trying to find her man right before we met. I'm afraid of all the consequences of that possible breakup and of her not being able to handle it. How do you break up with someone you care so much for?
I assume you're in your mid-twenties.
1. Do you love her is not the issue here, it appears that you do, let me ask you another question, do you want her to be the mother of your children?
She will treat you well, but so will a lot of people, you love her, but you both can love others. For upper society Koreans, generally, social status and qualities are a pre-check mark, meaning that if the social status and qualities are not present in the first place, you would not consider to even have a relationship with the girl in the first place. I realize that it seems heartless, but when this pre-checklist is confirmed, then you are free to say either you love or can love or not.
So I'll be very clear in that; you're not douche for thinking this way, marriage is very difficult, its best to start the marriage off with the best possible circumstances because there will be MANY things in the long run you guys don't like or are not happy with each other, but because of love you accept them truly for who they are and every negative is simply them. BUT BEFORE MARRIAGE, you have a choice and that choice can be seen as very selfish, but its your one life and this is the one time you get to be selfish because its a freaking life long commitment. If you follow this way, then the chances for divorce are less (although with me there is no possibility of divorce, my wife will be my wife whether she likes it or not).
2. The fact that you are still thinking about the many women you have yet to find and date, but resign yourself to the fact that you know she probably will love and care for you the most and you do have care for her deeply means... you need separation time to get a reality check: either to appreciate her as the angel that she is or for you to find someone who you feel does match with you better and that you don't feel any passive aggressive pressure (basically using your own guilt against you by being blameless). If you are serious about marriage tot his girl; then separate for at least a month and then come back to it and decide then. She may not understand or agree or try to bother you during that month, but even if you have to move out for a month, do it and go and see what is out there.
Now a month doesn't seem like much, but you need to respect her too, you know her, you know the situation, now you don't have the luxury of time to keep her along and find yourself; if you want all the time in the world, then break up now and then hope that she is still waiting to take you back if you find out that you truly loved her and need her. But if you want simply 'confirm' and get a reality check, 1 month with little contact except for sms to see if she is fine, is enough.
3. DON'T FUCKING LIVE FOR SOMEONE, You need to live for yourself first, to be the best that you can be and then you can be the best for someone else. If she is this loving and good, she will find someone else and if it takes a long time then it will, but to continue to be with her because you care about her situation is that ACTUALLY, she really doesn't care about you. Now you may have not expressed this to her, so maybe she does really care about you. When I was engaged, I asked my wife for some time off, like 2 weeks. She said yes. And she said to me, 'i love you, and if you will be happy with someone else but not me, I can accept that because I love you and want the best for you'. Now she could have been uber good at manipulating me, but I know she wasn't and truly loved me to be the best man I could be. No matter how hard it is, if she simply can't give you that space, then she is being selfish too, and it is very very tough; but if you come back to her, then you come back 100%, than being 80% the rest of your life.
We live to be the best that we can be and that is what we share with others. Maybe she does make you the best you can be and you just don't know it yet. But everything you have written, it shows, you care, you're a good man,
but you need take action so you can make a clear decision.
That is what men do, make a clear decision, not always the right one, but one they can sleep at night with. It's the times where you don't make a clear decision that you regret.
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What are the best methods of seducing room salon girls (10pro)?
How do you feel Korean women interpret a man's wealth? aka what's more 'impressive' to them, a man who dresses nice and talks rich, or a man who does neither but spends out the wahoozle. a man with a seemingly 'high profile' samsung job or a man with a baller car?
When you're like "okay we don't need another bottle of soju" and the korean girl says "FUCK THAT ONE MORE," what kind of lady is she?
In your opinion, what are the personality differences between korean women who prefer to live alone and those that live with a roommate(s) or their parents?
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On February 24 2011 12:46 milikan wrote:
how do you make sure you wake up on time? i can set 5 alarms on my phone and put it in another room, but if im sleepy enough ill just get up, turn the alarm off, get back into bed, and fall right back asleep.
this usually happens after im up all night studying. ;_;
Right before you go to bed, drink a large cup of water.
Even if you want to sleep in, you can't cause you need to go for a piss so bad.
As soon as you go to the washroom, take your piss, don't go back to bed,
WASH YOUR FACE immediately, and turn on the shower to a hot temperature,
go into the shower and sleep standing up in the shower until you wake up,
don't leave it until you feel like you wont' go back to bed,
then turn the shower as cold as you can, step out and get a cup of coffee right away and off you go.
If you still can't wake, up, drink 2 cups of water;
at your age, you won't piss in your bed, you'll get a nightmare about pissing in your bed and then wake up before that happens.
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On February 24 2011 13:17 Rekrul wrote:
What are the best methods of seducing room salon girls (10pro)?
How do you feel Korean women interpret a man's wealth? aka what's more 'impressive' to them, a man who dresses nice and talks rich, or a man who does neither but spends out the wahoozle. a man with a seemingly 'high profile' samsung job or a man with a baller car?
When you're like "okay we don't need another bottle of soju" and the korean girl says "FUCK THAT ONE MORE," what kind of lady is she?
In your opinion, what are the personality differences between korean women who prefer to live alone and those that live with a roommate(s) or their parents?
Seducing is not my main ability, making them into your mistress would be my area of expertise, if I did such things.
For 10pro girls at Room salons (10% of the most beautiful of beautiful girls), they are very realistic about men, not cynical,but accept that a man is by nature not monogamous and needs entertainment. They are most attracted to a man with lots of money, but who is actually kind. Because they themselves make about 15k a month anyways.
The question about how women interpret a man's wealth depends on their own status: low end girls are dazed by the nicely dressed guy who talks rich, but won't be dumb to realize that the real baller is the one that spends like a mofo, but side by side, they low end girls will pick the nicely dressed guy.
The low end girls will pick the samsung guy as they will assume the guy will the baller car is a 'habitual cheater'-baram doongee- anyways but if they are young, the will go with the baller car guy.
But a high class woman wont' bother with a samsung guy at all and will consider the baller guy if he has no existing reputation and if he really is from a wealthy family rather than just fronting.
If a girls says, 'fuck that one more bottle'; low class bitch who drinks too much.
Personality between girls who prefer to live alone rather than with friends or family? The former likes to have one night stands frequently or can't stand the pressure of Korean society or maybe very serious about her studies. The other one is normal.
Ah but rekrul, you already know this better than me, you are just being kind to give the kids some good questions they wouldn't have thought to ask ^^*
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What does the average Korean man think when they see a white guy walking around the street with a hot girl?
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On February 24 2011 14:24 Rekrul wrote:
What does the average Korean man think when they see a white guy walking around the street with a hot girl?
In Gangnam Seoul: won't even notice
In Itaewon Seoul: another Korean whore with US army guy
In general Seoul: interesting, but whatever
In the country side: fucking whore bitch
Oveseas Koreans: envy and wondering why all the white guys get the hot Korean bitches
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What is the difference between a typical Korean women compared to a typical North American women in terms of how they relate with men?
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On February 24 2011 14:31 Smuft wrote:
What is the difference between a typical Korean women compared to a typical North American women in terms of how they relate with men?
Ah Smufty, ok,
1. Korean woman will generally concern about the man first and not expect equal treatment in bed
2. Both are very passionate in bed
3. Korean women will try to look pretty for their man, Westerns not as much
4. Korean women expect to be pampered and not to pay for anything, western women are willing to dutch and even take care of the man, but of course even if a western woman says they want equality through equal paying of costs, they usually can be convinced to accept to be financially taken care of.
5. Korean women know that a man's strength comes from controlled silence, but western women don't see it as such and thus would mistake that for being passive, when in fact they are very nearly close to death but don't realize it as such.
6. Both will nag you to death
7. Western women wont' have as high of material expectations and don't need to be as pampered, but if you do pamper them they will quickly take it for granted. For a Korean girl, they will know that they are lucky and will protect you from all other women and even friends until you are married.
8. There are both the crazy and dramatic type (high maintenance on both ends), but the Korean woman will stop if the man gets angry enough, but the western will not or push it further.
9. Korean women are more likely to stalk you after breaking up, I'd say about 100% more chance as they tend to think of you as their possession as well.
10. Korean women will very intensely passionate immediately as soon as they decide you are their man, there is no first, second, third base if they feel you are there man; so many less sexual and relationship hang ups, but Westerns in general tend to have more hang ups and are more conservative in love making (but perhaps more animalistic and savage though)
But for the most part, if you were to compare Korean women to western women, out of all the Asian women, i would say that Korean women are the most similar in temperament in their passion and aggressiveness. To be honestly, I think Korean women make the perfect lovers and wives, and general companions, but they will treat you like a possession as well. Cross them and they will have their revenge.
What I like about western women though is they can truly be honest loving women who's independence allows them to be lovers as well as friends. I can't say that many Korean men are friends with their Korean lovers/wives.
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What is your opinion on sleeping around with different girls? At what point does it become too much, or is there never enough?
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how do you stop yourself from procrastinating? i am trying to achieve manliness through academics, sports and social relationships but can only do so for less than a month until laziness kicks in again.
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oh wtheck didnt know why it posted like that.. strange~ agree with the nunchi comes from background (how one gets exposed to things in life)
anywho...from ur previous blog..
Now I had a lot of stress about this, so much so, that me and Rekrul and 'one who will not be named'(basically this other guy who is a little turd) go for a night walk, now I don't expect to walk that far, but I'm nervous about the next day when I meet Megan's dad. Basically i had been practicing my speech all week long what I would say etc and we end up walking about 15 miles or so
what happens in a 15 mile walk with Rekrul??? Thats like walking manhattan top to bottom..
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Not related to specifically being a Korean Man, but I have to ask -- how did you find out what your passion is in life, career-wise?
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On February 24 2011 20:01 mel_ee wrote:oh wtheck didnt know why it posted like that.. strange~ agree with the nunchi comes from background (how one gets exposed to things in life) anywho...from ur previous blog.. Show nested quote +Now I had a lot of stress about this, so much so, that me and Rekrul and 'one who will not be named'(basically this other guy who is a little turd) go for a night walk, now I don't expect to walk that far, but I'm nervous about the next day when I meet Megan's dad. Basically i had been practicing my speech all week long what I would say etc and we end up walking about 15 miles or so what happens in a 15 mile walk with Rekrul??? Thats like walking manhattan top to bottom..
if a korean man gets told he is incapable of doing something in his own land by a white man he will go to any lengths to prove the white man wrong, whether or not his shins are broken
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How you met your wife and why you decided to get married?(part 2)
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On February 24 2011 17:29 Renoir_scII wrote:
What is your opinion on sleeping around with different girls? At what point does it become too much, or is there never enough?
In Korea, the same girls sleep around with everyone, and then there are lots of virgins out there who wait for Mr. right.
If you sleep with lots of women who like to be sexually active, just use protection and be save and enjoy yourself because some people are just wired that way and need to have and enjoy new sexual partners.
If you're going around seducing nice girls and then leaving them, don't do that, you're not going to go to hell, but you're going to regret it one day and then spend you entire life trying to make it up and eventually have 3 daughters who are going to remind you what kind of douche bag you were.
But for me personally, I was never into the one night stand thing; although I for most of my youth I was envious of those guys who did sleep with many women, but even when I had the opportunity, it just wasn't me.
Once I dated a girl who I thought was a nymphomaniac, but in actually she really enjoyed having one night stands but since she was going out with me and I was very clear that her adventures were over, we ended up having sex twice a day every day for about a couple years (sounds impossible but true), so after developing back problems I realized that she simply is wired a bit different and she see sex differently than me. We broke up and she promptly slept with three or four guys by the next time I spoke to her the week after.
So, my point is, if you are wired that way and enjoy it and sex is not some dominating perverse thing for you, then enjoy it! gogo!
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He is not yet a man yet, and spent too much time caring what white people thought of him.
A Korean man wouldn't bother to spend that much time and effort to compare based on white American criteria.
We are Korean, we are men, this statement in of itself is enough.
What does it matter if someone says otherwise or disagrees?
Just insecurities and a Korean who has become a man, has no insecurities.
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On February 24 2011 18:11 Stratos.FEAR wrote:
how do you stop yourself from procrastinating? i am trying to achieve manliness through academics, sports and social relationships but can only do so for less than a month until laziness kicks in again.
Because you do it from force of will, rather than structuring your environment to force you to stay committed. To do things via your will power alone is a feat no man can do for long.
For example: studying on a scholarship or not; doing athletics on a championship team or just a random club team; visiting new countries and meeting new people there or at the university pub.
Structure you environment that it also provides challenge and commitments that cannot be broken and you will never procrastinate again in the context you provided.
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On February 24 2011 19:11 Klogon wrote:Lol that thread from way back. Rekrul trolling. Gotta love it And loving this blog Mighty Atom. Seriously awesome because you have so many theories on life and how things should work based on your own experience. And I love hearing other people's life theories.
All Korean men think the same way, its genetic, but the pussiness got to get beat out us first. ^^
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On February 24 2011 22:29 happyft wrote:
Not related to specifically being a Korean Man, but I have to ask -- how did you find out what your passion is in life, career-wise?
If you ask, I am you hyung and I will answer.
Probably the first thing is:
what are you actually really good at, talented at;
When you're young, you simply have no clue as the education system tries to give everyone the basic skills, but when you get to university, for most of us, with the freedom and protection we get to try new things and have a lot of time for reflection and the ability to not be committed; well you really get to know what you like doing.
But what you like doing is not the same as what you really good at; but it points that way.
I studied political philosophy and English lit in university, but I started off as chem major. Its not that I hated chem, I liked it, but I was such a rebel, I was famous because I was the only undergrad in the chem program to miss handing in a lab report (I had gotten A, Aplus up that point and I did the caculatino on it that even if I got zero on this lab report I'd still get a B in the labs section), I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHY I THOUGHT LIKE THAT, but I think it was because everyone was so crazy about making these 15 page lab reports and I had already bucked the trend with 2 page lab reports that I felt I should go all the way. Needless to say, getting a B in your major as a specialist is not good; so I switched to political philosophy and English lit.
Now I applied for law school, but didn't' study for my LSAT, when to do my masters in theology, but didn't graduate and all the while I continued to play rugby.
While I was very much into academia and enjoyed a theoretical approach to many things, on the pitch I was mindless barbarian and I was a very good rugby player; but when asked to explain how to tackle, I could be very technical and provide a theory about it.
So, in the end, chemistry, theology, political theory were all too abstract for me, I needed to do something that applied theory in a dramatic and clear way... and business strategy became my calling and I was naturally quite good at it.
For me, it was a long and frustrating journey, by the time I realized this I was already 25. And when I did start my business studies, I was such a fish out of water, I didn't know what IPO, M&A or even what stock really was, but after the initial learning curve, I just took off and became the best student in the program after a so/so first semester.
Nut shell, look at what you like and it may point to what you are good at, realize that, and you may find the right career choice, but clearly in my case, it was not a conscious or calculated move, I endure much frustration even after I knew I wanted to do business strategy.
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On February 24 2011 22:45 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 20:01 mel_ee wrote:oh wtheck didnt know why it posted like that.. strange~ agree with the nunchi comes from background (how one gets exposed to things in life) anywho...from ur previous blog.. Now I had a lot of stress about this, so much so, that me and Rekrul and 'one who will not be named'(basically this other guy who is a little turd) go for a night walk, now I don't expect to walk that far, but I'm nervous about the next day when I meet Megan's dad. Basically i had been practicing my speech all week long what I would say etc and we end up walking about 15 miles or so what happens in a 15 mile walk with Rekrul??? Thats like walking manhattan top to bottom.. if a korean man gets told he is incapable of doing something in his own land by a white man he will go to any lengths to prove the white man wrong, whether or not his shins are broken
NOTE: THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL STORY INVOLVING REKRUL, THERE ARE NO GIRLS, ALCOHOL OR MONSTERING OF ANY KIND, IT IS A BORING ASS STORY, BY REQUEST.
About 2 week before I cracked my ankle in a rugby game, it was to be my last rugby game ever as the crack was quite severe and eventually turned into traumatic degenerative arthritis a few months after, primary because of this 15 mile walk.
Basically Rekrul, me, Elky, Giyom, Smuft and 'Pussyboy' all lived together at a new big apartment at Nambu terminal. At the time, I had an ok relationship with 'pussyboy' but later on I basically wanted to beat the shit out of his no manner low class ass every day, but couldn't because the boys were 'pussyboy's friend and they wouldn't allow me to. But in anycase, Rek and pussyboy do this thing called the 'nightwalk' where they leave the apartment at like 10 or 11pm or so and just walk around Seoul at night during a weekday.
So I'm stressed as fuck about my meeting with my potential father-in-law so I say I'm gonna join them, but I'm dressed not for walking, I'm dressed nicely with dress shoes and slacks, cause I thought I'll 'night walk' with these guys for a bit, then maybe we'll get some drinks after 20 mins or so, but I was wrong.
These two numbnuts have this path that they follow and it takes them across Hannam Bridge, so basically we're at the most bottom part of Seoul, and they walk a minimum to the center of Seoul, straight north. So we're walking and walking and I'm totally not fit for walking as I just recently stopped having to use a crutch and I'm wearing dress shoes. And Rek says to me, are you ok, you can go back or take a taxi you know? And because he says this, I tell him, I'm a man, I'm fine, lets keep going. And so we finally make it to Hannam bridge and I'm like, ok, lets take a taxi back now. And the numbnuts are like, no we're gonna keep going, but you can take a taxi back.
And I'm like, fuck that, ok, lets go.
So we walk north these guys have no idea where we are because they haven't ever been North of Gangnam across the bridge, but we end up walking East for some reason and now I recognize where we are, if we continue to go North from here, we will make it to Korea university, my old university and I know the way from here.
At this point my feet are crushed and I have blisters and I start limping badly now and Rek says, you can go back you know, here I'll wave you down a taxi, and I say, fuck that, lets go, I'm a man or I'm Korean, I can't remember which one I said, but it means the same thing. So we walk all the fucking way to Korean university.
I can't fucking believe it that I was idiotic enough to do this and we end up going to the middle of the campus and sit around some big statues and talk about life, love and everything else under the sun.
Now its like 4:30, and I'm like, man we need to get back now. And they are like, ok, lets start walking back and I'm like, FUCK THAT, we are taking the taxi home! There is a limit of being a man and going the distance and being a fucking retard, we had crossed that line and thus ends the story of the night walk which made me walk up late to meet my future father in-law and made me a cripple. In this case, I was actually not yet become a full man in that I let my pride force my decision when there where 2 young punks around me. -.-
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It's threads like these that make me wish we'd have the hyung system here in the Germanic culture. You're a lifesaver, MightyAtom.
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How and why should I get a job in Korea?
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man i love reading this stuff.. but i can't think of any suitable questions for his mightyness.. But most stuff thats screwed up with me i already figured out the answers to by myself, but am just to lazy to get off my butt x)
Still, good to know there's a place to ask with a guy i trust to give a proper answer. It's so awesome reading all the replies and not finding anything where i feel like "come on, thats bs". The stuff i think i have some clue of is just right, and the stuff i don't have a clue of still seems sound and good. It's a real joy to read this.
Once i find a suitable question, i shall post it!
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MightyAtom-hyung is a fucking LegenD! I wish I had a true hyung like him.
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Is it wierd for a Korean girl to offer to do your taxes for you?
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On February 24 2011 15:07 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 14:31 Smuft wrote:
What is the difference between a typical Korean women compared to a typical North American women in terms of how they relate with men? Ah Smufty, ok, 1. Korean woman will generally concern about the man first and not expect equal treatment in bed 2. Both are very passionate in bed 3. Korean women will try to look pretty for their man, Westerns not as much 4. Korean women expect to be pampered and not to pay for anything, western women are willing to dutch and even take care of the man, but of course even if a western woman says they want equality through equal paying of costs, they usually can be convinced to accept to be financially taken care of. 5. Korean women know that a man's strength comes from controlled silence, but western women don't see it as such and thus would mistake that for being passive, when in fact they are very nearly close to death but don't realize it as such. 6. Both will nag you to death 7. Western women wont' have as high of material expectations and don't need to be as pampered, but if you do pamper them they will quickly take it for granted. For a Korean girl, they will know that they are lucky and will protect you from all other women and even friends until you are married. 8. There are both the crazy and dramatic type (high maintenance on both ends), but the Korean woman will stop if the man gets angry enough, but the western will not or push it further. 9. Korean women are more likely to stalk you after breaking up, I'd say about 100% more chance as they tend to think of you as their possession as well. 10. Korean women will very intensely passionate immediately as soon as they decide you are their man, there is no first, second, third base if they feel you are there man; so many less sexual and relationship hang ups, but Westerns in general tend to have more hang ups and are more conservative in love making (but perhaps more animalistic and savage though) But for the most part, if you were to compare Korean women to western women, out of all the Asian women, i would say that Korean women are the most similar in temperament in their passion and aggressiveness. To be honestly, I think Korean women make the perfect lovers and wives, and general companions, but they will treat you like a possession as well. Cross them and they will have their revenge. What I like about western women though is they can truly be honest loving women who's independence allows them to be lovers as well as friends. I can't say that many Korean men are friends with their Korean lovers/wives.
Lol wow such a good analysis. My long-term gf is Vietnamese, but born in the USA and she's Exactly like how you described a Western woman. Including the friend part at the end. You are good MA-hyung
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On February 25 2011 08:10 MisteR wrote:
It's threads like these that make me wish we'd have the hyung system here in the Germanic culture. You're a lifesaver, MightyAtom.
As my life as been saved too by my Hyungs, I just continue the chain ^^
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On February 25 2011 08:21 Dieoxhide wrote:
How and why should I get a job in Korea?
How: get transfered from your foreign company to work as an expat in a subsidiarity in Korea.
Why: as an expat you'll be paid 3 times as much and live life like a high class king in the land that is the paradise for men.
You could go to a third world country and do the same, but its much better going to a developed country and being king, also Korea is not yet developed that we have so many social regulations (ie. no drinking end time, drinking in public, etc).
DON'T COME HERE TO WORK IN A KOREAN COMPANY AS A DOMESTIC EMPLOYEE, You will be coming to hell on earth. And if you come to teach English here, limit it to 3 years max and save money, and even attend classes here, otherwise you will have lost x years of your life for no real purpose.
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On February 25 2011 10:50 MisterD wrote:man i love reading this stuff.. but i can't think of any suitable questions for his mightyness.. But most stuff thats screwed up with me i already figured out the answers to by myself, but am just to lazy to get off my butt x) Still, good to know there's a place to ask with a guy i trust to give a proper answer. It's so awesome reading all the replies and not finding anything where i feel like "come on, thats bs". The stuff i think i have some clue of is just right, and the stuff i don't have a clue of still seems sound and good. It's a real joy to read this. Once i find a suitable question, i shall post it!
I look forward to it ^^ but it sounds like you are doing good with your strong grasp of reality (which is probably the most important skill in life).
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How hard is it for a foreginer to learn Korean?
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On February 25 2011 12:25 SkyLegenD wrote:
MightyAtom-hyung is a fucking LegenD! I wish I had a true hyung like him.
If you need I am your hyung, thus is being a Hyung. But only for TL people. ^^ But in actual physical meeting, one day, we will have another TL meet up, when I'm more stable (or if someone organizes it in Seoul) and if I'm in the country we will have fun!
And Mr.Hoon, I had a great time that night as well, you so mannerful dong-seng!
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On February 25 2011 12:37 l0st_romantic wrote:
Is it wierd for a Korean girl to offer to do your taxes for you?
No, if she likes you, she will come over and do your laundry, cook you a meal, clean your dishes, organize your room and make sweet love to you and do your taxes if she has her CPA. They will be helpful in whatever capacity they can (my wife does all my company expenses for me-but that is because she wants to get the cash in hand!) keke.
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On February 25 2011 12:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 15:07 MightyAtom wrote:On February 24 2011 14:31 Smuft wrote:
What is the difference between a typical Korean women compared to a typical North American women in terms of how they relate with men? Ah Smufty, ok, 1. Korean woman will generally concern about the man first and not expect equal treatment in bed 2. Both are very passionate in bed 3. Korean women will try to look pretty for their man, Westerns not as much 4. Korean women expect to be pampered and not to pay for anything, western women are willing to dutch and even take care of the man, but of course even if a western woman says they want equality through equal paying of costs, they usually can be convinced to accept to be financially taken care of. 5. Korean women know that a man's strength comes from controlled silence, but western women don't see it as such and thus would mistake that for being passive, when in fact they are very nearly close to death but don't realize it as such. 6. Both will nag you to death 7. Western women wont' have as high of material expectations and don't need to be as pampered, but if you do pamper them they will quickly take it for granted. For a Korean girl, they will know that they are lucky and will protect you from all other women and even friends until you are married. 8. There are both the crazy and dramatic type (high maintenance on both ends), but the Korean woman will stop if the man gets angry enough, but the western will not or push it further. 9. Korean women are more likely to stalk you after breaking up, I'd say about 100% more chance as they tend to think of you as their possession as well. 10. Korean women will very intensely passionate immediately as soon as they decide you are their man, there is no first, second, third base if they feel you are there man; so many less sexual and relationship hang ups, but Westerns in general tend to have more hang ups and are more conservative in love making (but perhaps more animalistic and savage though) But for the most part, if you were to compare Korean women to western women, out of all the Asian women, i would say that Korean women are the most similar in temperament in their passion and aggressiveness. To be honestly, I think Korean women make the perfect lovers and wives, and general companions, but they will treat you like a possession as well. Cross them and they will have their revenge. What I like about western women though is they can truly be honest loving women who's independence allows them to be lovers as well as friends. I can't say that many Korean men are friends with their Korean lovers/wives. Lol wow such a good analysis. My long-term gf is Vietnamese, but born in the USA and she's Exactly like how you described a Western woman. Including the friend part at the end. You are good MA-hyung
^^ Vietnamese are very very beautiful and lovely women and I hear they treat their man well, but if you cross them they will main you.
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When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?
Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries?
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On February 25 2011 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
How hard is it for a foreginer to learn Korean?
This is a bad question to ask me because after 10 years or so in Korea, my Korean is still terrible, of course I can communicate, but I can only talk business Korean, otherwise I have no idea what is going on outside of the house, office and restaurant.
Korean script is easy as hell, 2 hours max to learn.
To learn Korean enough to watch sitcoms and dramas,
pretty easy after enough exposure and going through the basics.
Overseas Koreans have a very difficult time learning Korean because they never learn the basics, they know various levels of Korean which can be some pretty deep and complex words/hanja (chinese based words), but then fail in basic instructional Korean. The reason for this is that the exposure to Korean makes them believe that they should know Korean, but its an illusion and so they continue to learn Korean as if they were still 2 years old running around learning bits and pieces here and there, but since they are able to communicate inEnglish, they never really get the desperation to learn properly.
If you were to learn Korean, learn the basics first and the grammar completely and the articles etc; don't move on if you have any questions, learning vocabulary is easy enough, just memorization, but the grammar is very different and if you don't get the grammar right you will never look educated when you speak Korean (as I look like a retard when I speak Korean for more than 2 continual minutes, unless in a drinking or business situation). ^^
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Hyung, can you give us a brief background of yourself? I see from another blog post of yours that you attended Korea University and currently work in Seoul, but you have superb English and know quite a lot about Western culture.
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On February 25 2011 13:33 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 12:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:On February 24 2011 15:07 MightyAtom wrote:On February 24 2011 14:31 Smuft wrote:
What is the difference between a typical Korean women compared to a typical North American women in terms of how they relate with men? Ah Smufty, ok, 1. Korean woman will generally concern about the man first and not expect equal treatment in bed 2. Both are very passionate in bed 3. Korean women will try to look pretty for their man, Westerns not as much 4. Korean women expect to be pampered and not to pay for anything, western women are willing to dutch and even take care of the man, but of course even if a western woman says they want equality through equal paying of costs, they usually can be convinced to accept to be financially taken care of. 5. Korean women know that a man's strength comes from controlled silence, but western women don't see it as such and thus would mistake that for being passive, when in fact they are very nearly close to death but don't realize it as such. 6. Both will nag you to death 7. Western women wont' have as high of material expectations and don't need to be as pampered, but if you do pamper them they will quickly take it for granted. For a Korean girl, they will know that they are lucky and will protect you from all other women and even friends until you are married. 8. There are both the crazy and dramatic type (high maintenance on both ends), but the Korean woman will stop if the man gets angry enough, but the western will not or push it further. 9. Korean women are more likely to stalk you after breaking up, I'd say about 100% more chance as they tend to think of you as their possession as well. 10. Korean women will very intensely passionate immediately as soon as they decide you are their man, there is no first, second, third base if they feel you are there man; so many less sexual and relationship hang ups, but Westerns in general tend to have more hang ups and are more conservative in love making (but perhaps more animalistic and savage though) But for the most part, if you were to compare Korean women to western women, out of all the Asian women, i would say that Korean women are the most similar in temperament in their passion and aggressiveness. To be honestly, I think Korean women make the perfect lovers and wives, and general companions, but they will treat you like a possession as well. Cross them and they will have their revenge. What I like about western women though is they can truly be honest loving women who's independence allows them to be lovers as well as friends. I can't say that many Korean men are friends with their Korean lovers/wives. Lol wow such a good analysis. My long-term gf is Vietnamese, but born in the USA and she's Exactly like how you described a Western woman. Including the friend part at the end. You are good MA-hyung ^^ Vietnamese are very very beautiful and lovely women and I hear they treat their man well, but if you cross them they will main you.
Haha yeah, my girlfriend is actually the first girl I have met who just does not get that angry. I mean, she does sometimes, in a cold kind of way where she glares at me all week and says nothing, but she doesn't have big explosions like what you describe Korean girls as doing. My Taiwanese mother on the other hand... she sounds quite similar to that, except instead of once a week, it's any given moment. Do one thing that she doesn't like and volcano erupts...
My gf treats me quite well though, and offers to pay much of the time, very generous and gentle. My only problem now is she's putting a lot of faith in me, waiting around while I get my writing career established >.>, as I am not ready to propose until I have some real money coming in.
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On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?
Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries?
Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians.
If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as;
being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner.
so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks,
In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves.
So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American.
Ah Korean girls from Western countries:
big question but here goes:
North America:
East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature.
Or,
Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot.
West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic.
You could travel the world,
But nothin' comes close,
To the golden coast!
Once you party with u-us,
you'll be fallin' in love!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!
California girls, we're unforgettable,
Daisy dukes, bikinis on top!
Sunkissed skin,
So hot we'll melt your popsicle!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!
California girls, we're undeniable,
Fine, fresh, fierce,
We got it on lock!
West coast represent, now put your hands up!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!
Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America.
Europe:
The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed.
Japan:
Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese.
but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior.
China:
there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!)
Russia:
They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell!
Australia/NZ
Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally.
^^
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?
Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries? Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians. If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as; being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner. so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks, In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves. So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American. Ah Korean girls from Western countries: big question but here goes: North America: East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature. Or, Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot. West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic. You could travel the world, But nothin' comes close, To the golden coast! Once you party with u-us, you'll be fallin' in love! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're unforgettable, Daisy dukes, bikinis on top! Sunkissed skin, So hot we'll melt your popsicle! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're undeniable, Fine, fresh, fierce, We got it on lock! West coast represent, now put your hands up! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America. Europe: The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed. Japan: Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese. but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior. China: there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!) Russia: They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell! Australia/NZ Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally. ^^
Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs!
Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans?
I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong.
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On February 25 2011 13:56 SkyLegenD wrote:
Hyung, can you give us a brief background of yourself? I see from another blog post of yours that you attended Korea University and currently work in Seoul, but you have superb English and know quite a lot about Western culture.
Born in Montreal Quebec, in school learned French then English then move to Toronto at middle school, forgot my french by grade 10, come from an uber conservative family. Did my undergrad and grad studies in Canada and then did my Masters in business at Korea university, played on their pro rugby team (only overseas Korean to do so), worked for a technology transfer Korean gov't agency for 3-4 years and for PwC in Korea. Lived in France for a few months and have traveled to MANY places for work only. My major in undergrad was political philosophy and ENGLISH LIT LOL, I was the only Asian in the program lol. So, anyways, I've been in Korea now for about 10 years straight.
I never fit in English speaking Canada and I think if my family never left Montreal I would have never come to Korea ever. When I was growing up I could see three different cultures, the french, the English and the Korean; but what was consistent was the Korean, but what I love is both the french and Korean background that I have.
When I am in Quebec or in France, ah, I am so much at peace with the world.
When I am in English speaking Canada or American, I am so frustrated and uncomfortable;
so of course my English is native, but my mentality never grew out of being Korean or French (didn't expect that part), so right now I am thinking to send my first born son to a French private school as both Elky and Giyom are his 'Godfathers' ( including Smuft and Rekrul), but what is close to my heart, is my love for France and Quebec and Korea. But I am Korean, not native Korean, not overseas Korean, just Korean who loves all things Korean and French! keke.
I think though, in terms of how accurately I articulate Korean things, its because I did experience schooling, being on a professional sports team and working for the Korean gov't and a top Korean firm, and the fact that I married into a rich traditional family and my own background ain't that shabby either. I would say, I've experience more higher level Korean culture than most average Koreans and can articulate it because I can honestly compare it to western culture at equal footing
but when I first came to Korea, that wasn't the case, I had many traditional views that were outdated or overly critical about Korea without understand the real competitive pressures here.
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MightyAtom Hyung is Canadian! Ho ying ar! (So Cool!)
What schools in Canada? Your opinion on Canadian post secondary institutions compared to Asia?
Most importantly, the views of Asian Asians on North American Asians with North American university education (non Ivey, especially Canadian)
2nd edit: Funny I wrote Ivey, I mean Ivy League.
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On February 25 2011 14:06 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 13:33 MightyAtom wrote:On February 25 2011 12:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:On February 24 2011 15:07 MightyAtom wrote:On February 24 2011 14:31 Smuft wrote:
What is the difference between a typical Korean women compared to a typical North American women in terms of how they relate with men? Ah Smufty, ok, 1. Korean woman will generally concern about the man first and not expect equal treatment in bed 2. Both are very passionate in bed 3. Korean women will try to look pretty for their man, Westerns not as much 4. Korean women expect to be pampered and not to pay for anything, western women are willing to dutch and even take care of the man, but of course even if a western woman says they want equality through equal paying of costs, they usually can be convinced to accept to be financially taken care of. 5. Korean women know that a man's strength comes from controlled silence, but western women don't see it as such and thus would mistake that for being passive, when in fact they are very nearly close to death but don't realize it as such. 6. Both will nag you to death 7. Western women wont' have as high of material expectations and don't need to be as pampered, but if you do pamper them they will quickly take it for granted. For a Korean girl, they will know that they are lucky and will protect you from all other women and even friends until you are married. 8. There are both the crazy and dramatic type (high maintenance on both ends), but the Korean woman will stop if the man gets angry enough, but the western will not or push it further. 9. Korean women are more likely to stalk you after breaking up, I'd say about 100% more chance as they tend to think of you as their possession as well. 10. Korean women will very intensely passionate immediately as soon as they decide you are their man, there is no first, second, third base if they feel you are there man; so many less sexual and relationship hang ups, but Westerns in general tend to have more hang ups and are more conservative in love making (but perhaps more animalistic and savage though) But for the most part, if you were to compare Korean women to western women, out of all the Asian women, i would say that Korean women are the most similar in temperament in their passion and aggressiveness. To be honestly, I think Korean women make the perfect lovers and wives, and general companions, but they will treat you like a possession as well. Cross them and they will have their revenge. What I like about western women though is they can truly be honest loving women who's independence allows them to be lovers as well as friends. I can't say that many Korean men are friends with their Korean lovers/wives. Lol wow such a good analysis. My long-term gf is Vietnamese, but born in the USA and she's Exactly like how you described a Western woman. Including the friend part at the end. You are good MA-hyung ^^ Vietnamese are very very beautiful and lovely women and I hear they treat their man well, but if you cross them they will main you. Haha yeah, my girlfriend is actually the first girl I have met who just does not get that angry. I mean, she does sometimes, in a cold kind of way where she glares at me all week and says nothing, but she doesn't have big explosions like what you describe Korean girls as doing. My Taiwanese mother on the other hand... she sounds quite similar to that, except instead of once a week, it's any given moment. Do one thing that she doesn't like and volcano erupts... My gf treats me quite well though, and offers to pay much of the time, very generous and gentle. My only problem now is she's putting a lot of faith in me, waiting around while I get my writing career established >.>, as I am not ready to propose until I have some real money coming in.
Don't wait too long, getting married gives you a focus to succeed more than anything else on the planet can add children to that, and you'll be working like dog to become successful keke.
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On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?
Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries? Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians. If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as; being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner. so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks, In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves. So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American. Ah Korean girls from Western countries: big question but here goes: North America: East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature. Or, Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot. West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic. You could travel the world, But nothin' comes close, To the golden coast! Once you party with u-us, you'll be fallin' in love! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're unforgettable, Daisy dukes, bikinis on top! Sunkissed skin, So hot we'll melt your popsicle! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're undeniable, Fine, fresh, fierce, We got it on lock! West coast represent, now put your hands up! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America. Europe: The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed. Japan: Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese. but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior. China: there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!) Russia: They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell! Australia/NZ Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally. ^^ Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs! Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans? I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong.
hehe, same difference ^^ gogo Hong Kong, in Macau right now via HK yesterday.
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On February 25 2011 14:33 The_LiNk wrote:
MightyAtom Hyung is Canadian! Ho ying ar! (So Cool!)
What schools in Canada? Your opinion on Canadian post secondary institutions compared to Asia?
Most importantly, the views of Asian Asians on North American Asians with North American university education (non Ivey, especially Canadian)
2nd edit: Funny I wrote Ivey, I mean Ivy League.
Earl Haig S.S.
U of M (long fucking story, graduated a year early via transferring out of Haig and doing summer school and going to a semestered school for a year - was going to travel...sigh...)
U of T (grad)
Canadian universities are among the best in the world, easy to get into, fucking hard to graduate from.
I can only speak for Korea, but not Ivy, just whatever, but they know U of T and the other top US schools. So you get a nod, but nothing more than that. But Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT, hero worship, lol even Stanford, you don't get that level of love, but definite respect, but don't expect any oohs and awes from being from a Canadian school.
But one thing, in Korea and in Asia, we dont' call ourselves Asian, we dont' have that kind of understanding, we are either Korean, or Chinese or Japanese etc, the only people who call themselves Asian in Asia are the Singaporeans, but since they have no influence in East Asia (except in major commercial real estate transactions), we tend to think that is cute.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2011 14:52 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 14:33 The_LiNk wrote:
MightyAtom Hyung is Canadian! Ho ying ar! (So Cool!)
What schools in Canada? Your opinion on Canadian post secondary institutions compared to Asia?
Most importantly, the views of Asian Asians on North American Asians with North American university education (non Ivey, especially Canadian)
2nd edit: Funny I wrote Ivey, I mean Ivy League. Earl Haig S.S. U of M (long fucking story, graduated a year early via transferring out of Haig and doing summer school and going to a semestered school for a year - was going to travel...sigh...) U of T (grad) Canadian universities are among the best in the world, easy to get into, fucking hard to graduate from. I can only speak for Korea, but not Ivy, just whatever, but they know U of T and the other top US schools. So you get a nod, but nothing more than that. But Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT, hero worship, lol even Stanford, you don't get that level of love, but definite respect, but don't expect any oohs and awes from being from a Canadian school. But one thing, in Korea and in Asia, we dont' call ourselves Asian, we dont' have that kind of understanding, we are either Korean, or Chinese or Japanese etc, the only people who call themselves Asian in Asia are the Singaporeans, but since they have no influence in East Asia (except in major commercial real estate transactions), we tend to think that is cute.
What a god. So much wisdom and life experience to learn from. You're like... a Dai Gor(Big Brother-Chinese equivalent of Hyung?) that isn't moronic, all mine are.
Your path is sort of the path I want to walk, only Hong Kong/Chinese version (looking out for Korea though, like I said Korea>China)... and in finance... without the long story part either.
Oh ya just came into my head. The area around Early Haig is now the universally accepted unofficial second Korea town.
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Hyung, how do you motivate yourself to be more ambitious? I feel like I have lived most of my life by just doing enough to get by without really excelling. I will be starting at EY this summer, and I am already apprehensive of the working grind. Since you also worked at a Big 4 accounting firm, is there any advice that you would give to be successful?
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I have a question for you, might be kind of personal though.
Q: From your comments above I assume you believe in God. What lead you to believe in God?
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Hyung, when is it acceptable to lie to:
1)parents
2)close friend
3)gf/wife
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What's your opinion on the Chinese? What exactly is Korea's relationship with China? How does a Korean man and a Chinese man differ?
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On February 25 2011 14:32 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 13:56 SkyLegenD wrote:
Hyung, can you give us a brief background of yourself? I see from another blog post of yours that you attended Korea University and currently work in Seoul, but you have superb English and know quite a lot about Western culture. [...] But I am Korean, not native Korean, not overseas Korean, just Korean who loves all things Korean and French! keke.
Oh that's something I missed reading some of your blogs, didn't know you had such strong relation to France. I'm French and love everything I found out about Korea, you seem to be someone I'dd really love to meet
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Hyung, tell me...
~I have girl troubles~
This girl that I'm with is fantastic, and I've been with her for a little over a year, but I wonder if I'm missing out on anything. So I imagine myself in relationships with other people. What do?
Help me, Mighty-Wan-Kenobi, you're my only hope.
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Do as any true Korean man would do, fiddle around behind her back and don't let her find out!
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On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?
Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries? Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians. If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as; being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner. so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks, In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves. So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American. Ah Korean girls from Western countries: big question but here goes: North America: East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature. Or, Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot. West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic. You could travel the world, But nothin' comes close, To the golden coast! Once you party with u-us, you'll be fallin' in love! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're unforgettable, Daisy dukes, bikinis on top! Sunkissed skin, So hot we'll melt your popsicle! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're undeniable, Fine, fresh, fierce, We got it on lock! West coast represent, now put your hands up! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America. Europe: The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed. Japan: Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese. but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior. China: there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!) Russia: They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell! Australia/NZ Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally. ^^ Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs! Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans? I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong.
Sorry, but I have to step in and say that sentiment is just plain misguided. There's no such thing as fully Chinese. You should take pride in your Chinese heritage, realize "Chinese" is a mishmash of different ethnicities, and that there is no such thing as "full Chinese." Or even Han ethnicity. If you study any of your people's history you will know that Chinese people killed each other for centuries and that there are countless tribes and clans and peoples, that's why in Guangdong alone, there are so many ethnic groups, Teo Chow, Kejia, Guangdong ren, etc. and that among Chinese people, there are many provinces that do not like each other. Fuzhou ren are not much liked, neither are Shaanxi people, etc. Han is just some idea espoused for the sake of political unity, but it has no basis in reality. Chinese is membership in an empire, not an ethnic group. It is way too late for Chinese to go back and try to divide themselves into categories of purity. Too much history and mixtures by now.
And there will always be plenty of dumbass ignorant Chinese out there who will say things like "Oh, you speak with an accent, so you're not full Chinese," and other stupid things like that, but it is your fault if you are going to listen to the words of fools. As a student of Chinese history, I get really annoyed with the ignorant garbage many Chinese people spout, mostly from stupid Chinese mothers who have never opened a book and have very strange perverse notions about Chinese culture and history that seem to be based more on racism and retardation rather than any basis in reality. And Mainland Chinese are often even more ignorant due to the propaganda and brainwashing they have had from their gov't.
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On February 25 2011 14:40 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 14:06 StorkHwaiting wrote:On February 25 2011 13:33 MightyAtom wrote:On February 25 2011 12:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:On February 24 2011 15:07 MightyAtom wrote:On February 24 2011 14:31 Smuft wrote:
What is the difference between a typical Korean women compared to a typical North American women in terms of how they relate with men? Ah Smufty, ok, 1. Korean woman will generally concern about the man first and not expect equal treatment in bed 2. Both are very passionate in bed 3. Korean women will try to look pretty for their man, Westerns not as much 4. Korean women expect to be pampered and not to pay for anything, western women are willing to dutch and even take care of the man, but of course even if a western woman says they want equality through equal paying of costs, they usually can be convinced to accept to be financially taken care of. 5. Korean women know that a man's strength comes from controlled silence, but western women don't see it as such and thus would mistake that for being passive, when in fact they are very nearly close to death but don't realize it as such. 6. Both will nag you to death 7. Western women wont' have as high of material expectations and don't need to be as pampered, but if you do pamper them they will quickly take it for granted. For a Korean girl, they will know that they are lucky and will protect you from all other women and even friends until you are married. 8. There are both the crazy and dramatic type (high maintenance on both ends), but the Korean woman will stop if the man gets angry enough, but the western will not or push it further. 9. Korean women are more likely to stalk you after breaking up, I'd say about 100% more chance as they tend to think of you as their possession as well. 10. Korean women will very intensely passionate immediately as soon as they decide you are their man, there is no first, second, third base if they feel you are there man; so many less sexual and relationship hang ups, but Westerns in general tend to have more hang ups and are more conservative in love making (but perhaps more animalistic and savage though) But for the most part, if you were to compare Korean women to western women, out of all the Asian women, i would say that Korean women are the most similar in temperament in their passion and aggressiveness. To be honestly, I think Korean women make the perfect lovers and wives, and general companions, but they will treat you like a possession as well. Cross them and they will have their revenge. What I like about western women though is they can truly be honest loving women who's independence allows them to be lovers as well as friends. I can't say that many Korean men are friends with their Korean lovers/wives. Lol wow such a good analysis. My long-term gf is Vietnamese, but born in the USA and she's Exactly like how you described a Western woman. Including the friend part at the end. You are good MA-hyung ^^ Vietnamese are very very beautiful and lovely women and I hear they treat their man well, but if you cross them they will main you. Haha yeah, my girlfriend is actually the first girl I have met who just does not get that angry. I mean, she does sometimes, in a cold kind of way where she glares at me all week and says nothing, but she doesn't have big explosions like what you describe Korean girls as doing. My Taiwanese mother on the other hand... she sounds quite similar to that, except instead of once a week, it's any given moment. Do one thing that she doesn't like and volcano erupts... My gf treats me quite well though, and offers to pay much of the time, very generous and gentle. My only problem now is she's putting a lot of faith in me, waiting around while I get my writing career established >.>, as I am not ready to propose until I have some real money coming in. Don't wait too long, getting married gives you a focus to succeed more than anything else on the planet can add children to that, and you'll be working like dog to become successful keke.
Haha yeah, I need to get this novel done and sold before the end of the year, or else I'm in trouble. I'm scared shitless of kids right now though, because I know I'd probably have to quit writing and go do business again to make money if they came along right this moment. My mother is already starting to mumble about grandchildren -.-,
Things are going well though. I look forward to writing the blog where I announce my novel sale , with the accompanying story explaining my journey to writing a novel, which has been a roller coaster hah.
Now as to my question: MA-hyung, if you don't mind discussing, what exactly is your job now as an entrepreneur? I saw that you mentioned something about bringing two gaming companies global? I'm not sure if I quite understand though and would be very interested in learning more about the project you took such risks to go after.
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On February 25 2011 22:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?
Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries? Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians. If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as; being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner. so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks, In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves. So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American. Ah Korean girls from Western countries: big question but here goes: North America: East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature. Or, Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot. West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic. You could travel the world, But nothin' comes close, To the golden coast! Once you party with u-us, you'll be fallin' in love! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're unforgettable, Daisy dukes, bikinis on top! Sunkissed skin, So hot we'll melt your popsicle! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're undeniable, Fine, fresh, fierce, We got it on lock! West coast represent, now put your hands up! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America. Europe: The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed. Japan: Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese. but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior. China: there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!) Russia: They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell! Australia/NZ Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally. ^^ Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs! Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans? I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong. Fuzhou ren are not much liked, neither are Shaanxi people
Where did you get this from?
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On February 25 2011 13:24 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 10:50 MisterD wrote:man i love reading this stuff.. but i can't think of any suitable questions for his mightyness.. But most stuff thats screwed up with me i already figured out the answers to by myself, but am just to lazy to get off my butt x) Still, good to know there's a place to ask with a guy i trust to give a proper answer. It's so awesome reading all the replies and not finding anything where i feel like "come on, thats bs". The stuff i think i have some clue of is just right, and the stuff i don't have a clue of still seems sound and good. It's a real joy to read this. Once i find a suitable question, i shall post it! I look forward to it ^^ but it sounds like you are doing good with your strong grasp of reality (which is probably the most important skill in life).
yes well, it doesn't prevent you from being an idiot over and over though ^^
but at least a different kind of idiot every time
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On February 25 2011 22:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?
Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries? Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians. If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as; being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner. so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks, In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves. So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American. Ah Korean girls from Western countries: big question but here goes: North America: East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature. Or, Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot. West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic. You could travel the world, But nothin' comes close, To the golden coast! Once you party with u-us, you'll be fallin' in love! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're unforgettable, Daisy dukes, bikinis on top! Sunkissed skin, So hot we'll melt your popsicle! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're undeniable, Fine, fresh, fierce, We got it on lock! West coast represent, now put your hands up! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America. Europe: The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed. Japan: Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese. but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior. China: there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!) Russia: They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell! Australia/NZ Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally. ^^ Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs! Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans? I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong. Sorry, but I have to step in and say that sentiment is just plain misguided. There's no such thing as fully Chinese. You should take pride in your Chinese heritage, realize "Chinese" is a mishmash of different ethnicities, and that there is no such thing as "full Chinese." Or even Han ethnicity. If you study any of your people's history you will know that Chinese people killed each other for centuries and that there are countless tribes and clans and peoples, that's why in Guangdong alone, there are so many ethnic groups, Teo Chow, Kejia, Guangdong ren, etc. and that among Chinese people, there are many provinces that do not like each other. Fuzhou ren are not much liked, neither are Shaanxi people, etc. Han is just some idea espoused for the sake of political unity, but it has no basis in reality. Chinese is membership in an empire, not an ethnic group. It is way too late for Chinese to go back and try to divide themselves into categories of purity. Too much history and mixtures by now. And there will always be plenty of dumbass ignorant Chinese out there who will say things like "Oh, you speak with an accent, so you're not full Chinese," and other stupid things like that, but it is your fault if you are going to listen to the words of fools. As a student of Chinese history, I get really annoyed with the ignorant garbage many Chinese people spout, mostly from stupid Chinese mothers who have never opened a book and have very strange perverse notions about Chinese culture and history that seem to be based more on racism and retardation rather than any basis in reality. And Mainland Chinese are often even more ignorant due to the propaganda and brainwashing they have had from their gov't.
you can say that with just about every ethnicity, especially countries which were occupied by another for some time
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On February 26 2011 01:40 Stratos.FEAR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 22:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?
Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries? Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians. If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as; being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner. so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks, In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves. So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American. Ah Korean girls from Western countries: big question but here goes: North America: East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature. Or, Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot. West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic. You could travel the world, But nothin' comes close, To the golden coast! Once you party with u-us, you'll be fallin' in love! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're unforgettable, Daisy dukes, bikinis on top! Sunkissed skin, So hot we'll melt your popsicle! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're undeniable, Fine, fresh, fierce, We got it on lock! West coast represent, now put your hands up! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America. Europe: The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed. Japan: Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese. but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior. China: there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!) Russia: They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell! Australia/NZ Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally. ^^ Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs! Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans? I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong. Sorry, but I have to step in and say that sentiment is just plain misguided. There's no such thing as fully Chinese. You should take pride in your Chinese heritage, realize "Chinese" is a mishmash of different ethnicities, and that there is no such thing as "full Chinese." Or even Han ethnicity. If you study any of your people's history you will know that Chinese people killed each other for centuries and that there are countless tribes and clans and peoples, that's why in Guangdong alone, there are so many ethnic groups, Teo Chow, Kejia, Guangdong ren, etc. and that among Chinese people, there are many provinces that do not like each other. Fuzhou ren are not much liked, neither are Shaanxi people, etc. Han is just some idea espoused for the sake of political unity, but it has no basis in reality. Chinese is membership in an empire, not an ethnic group. It is way too late for Chinese to go back and try to divide themselves into categories of purity. Too much history and mixtures by now. And there will always be plenty of dumbass ignorant Chinese out there who will say things like "Oh, you speak with an accent, so you're not full Chinese," and other stupid things like that, but it is your fault if you are going to listen to the words of fools. As a student of Chinese history, I get really annoyed with the ignorant garbage many Chinese people spout, mostly from stupid Chinese mothers who have never opened a book and have very strange perverse notions about Chinese culture and history that seem to be based more on racism and retardation rather than any basis in reality. And Mainland Chinese are often even more ignorant due to the propaganda and brainwashing they have had from their gov't. you can say that with just about every ethnicity, especially countries which were occupied by another for some time
Yeah, you can say that. That's why a person should not throw away or be ashamed of his heritage just because he happened to deviate from some supposed ideal upbringing of cultural and racial purity.
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How can I meet a nice Korean Buddhist girl in Korea? Eventually, I need to settle down, so I hope to marry a korean girl and help me do jaesa. Unfortunately, most Koreans I know in the United States are Christian.
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Just a general question to Hyung.
What are a man's obligations to society?
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On February 25 2011 15:09 thebteam wrote:
Hyung, how do you motivate yourself to be more ambitious? I feel like I have lived most of my life by just doing enough to get by without really excelling. I will be starting at EY this summer, and I am already apprehensive of the working grind. Since you also worked at a Big 4 accounting firm, is there any advice that you would give to be successful?
Great start at E&Y
You need vision and a need to either be: naturally competitive, or a need to do something for others.
But for your case, some practical advice.
EMBRACE WORK, say that you love working, that you are a workaholic, believe it, do it, and throw yourself at your work as if every additional hour or stress is a good thing, as if it you were the luckiest mofo to get this job and you'll begin engage work on a different level.
Then your definition of success won't be so superficial as to 'be established' or something vague, but it will be like, be able to have the reputation to understand the financials faster than any of the entry level noobs, or for you to be the most efficient...and then for you to want to move up the corporate ladder quicker.
Its as though, the more you immerse yourself, the most things will also pull you to be more ambitious and remember,
a man above other men is defined by his confidence and his ambition
go out there and rock it.
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On February 25 2011 15:19 doihy wrote:
I have a question for you, might be kind of personal though.
Q: From your comments above I assume you believe in God. What lead you to believe in God?
Born in 3rd generation Presbyterian family, but it was my parents faith and their love which was most influential.
But ultimately by university I had stopped going to church and thought that church as all bullshit and finally started to read the bible on my own without bible studies and christian propaganda of one line bible verses out of context. I questioned everything and doubted everything and searched until I realized two things.
If God really is God, then he will reveal himself to those sincerely calling, cause wtf, its God, if he out there, you will know, you don't need to look at two birds singing and guess that might be God giving you sign, the signs should be pretty damn clear.
And
If God really is God, then any doubt any question will be answered and it will be answered with completeness, a flawless answer which is the right answer in all contexts and levels.
For me that was Love.
So I have no doubts, no fears, no hesitations.
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On February 25 2011 15:57 SkyLegenD wrote:
Hyung, when is it acceptable to lie to:
1)parents
2)close friend
3)gf/wife
The focus is not on lying or not to lie, but rather to protect and nurture and grow. The act of lying is but a tool and not evil or bad in itself unless the lie is to destroy, give mistrust and to create doubt.
If the nazis asked me to reveal my jew friends during ww2, I would lie.
If my close friend couldn't handle the truth about something and would have a mental break down, I would lie.
If my son asked me about Santa Clause, I would lie (but I don't think I personally ever believed in Santa Clause).
Don't look at the act as the end, but rather the intent as the the whole. But avoid using the act of lying as a general tool in life, it cuts both ways too often.
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On February 25 2011 16:26 haduken wrote:
What's your opinion on the Chinese? What exactly is Korea's relationship with China? How does a Korean man and a Chinese man differ?
As a Korean, unlike the Japanese (sorry just being truthful), we always appreciate and respect all our traditions that have been past down to us from China. But, modern China is a bit different, we see the great wealth there, but we don't really know how big it truly is. Also we think that most mainland chinese people are too country like (as we don't like even country type of people either), which is different that being 'folk' like. Being to 'country like' it to have little manners.
A Korean man and Chinese man as men differ in how they approach responsibility and to whom.
For a Korean man, passion and joy must dictate the relationship, and duty second, but then without his passion and joy, his duty is a heavy burden even as he struggles daily to maintain it. A Korean man seeks to take responsibility to protect all under his umbrella, but he seeks stability of all things. He see things in terms of the quality of the relations, even at a financial loss.
A Chinese man, duty to his family is a natural instinct, there is no need for passion or joy, rather a need to be a provider always. A Chinese man will not establish any relationship that conflicts with his duty to his family including work or money. He does not require joy or passion, but rather a clear incentive of money or position to ensure his contribution to his family. The wealth of his family is his joy. The focus is not necessarily stability, but rather wealth. Thus he may expose his family to unnecessary risk for high gain.
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On February 25 2011 16:27 cArn- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 14:32 MightyAtom wrote:On February 25 2011 13:56 SkyLegenD wrote:
Hyung, can you give us a brief background of yourself? I see from another blog post of yours that you attended Korea University and currently work in Seoul, but you have superb English and know quite a lot about Western culture. [...] But I am Korean, not native Korean, not overseas Korean, just Korean who loves all things Korean and French! keke. Oh that's something I missed reading some of your blogs, didn't know you had such strong relation to France. I'm French and love everything I found out about Korea, you seem to be someone I'dd really love to meet
Great, when I have a moment we can have tl meet up in Seoul and I'll get Giyom to come out. Yes, I love all things French and Korean, but of course I most at home in Korea, but if I had to be exiled, I would chose to be exiled to France (not Quebec, its just to damn cold!)
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On February 25 2011 16:32 Homework wrote:
Hyung, tell me...
~I have girl troubles~
This girl that I'm with is fantastic, and I've been with her for a little over a year, but I wonder if I'm missing out on anything. So I imagine myself in relationships with other people. What do?
Help me, Mighty-Wan-Kenobi, you're my only hope.
There comes a point where the life you share with another takes on a separate life of its own and will always be incomparable to the excitement and life with a new person.
For instance, lets say you and your girl were trapped in a snowstorm and you both survived it and traveled for 3 days, that kind of experience takes on a life of its own;
or else, you have visited 10 different countries together and you've shared new life experiences together.
These kinds of things are the uniqued share life between you both, and so even if you do flirt with other women, your heart is with her.
NOW, if you do the same gf/bf crap day in and day out and she is a great companion, the this is at some level interchangeable, there can be a 'better' companion out there who matches you better in personality and interests. And for young men it is 100% NATURAL to feel this way, its not like this woman is your soul mate (or not that you can tell at this point).
so 2 points about it;
if you love her, forge again and concentrate on sharing your lives together
or
take some time off, not as separation, but go off on a trip for month to a foreign country and meet new people, don't cheat on her, but if you're having a ton of fun, you don't even think about her or miss her, then you still need to explore the world my friend and while she has been fanastic to you, you still need to see more of the world and people.
And this could lead to really appreciated her even more.
I'll say this, before marriage, I'd say, no matter how seriously you take the relationship, until you're married, its not like you're lives will be so intertwined that what you do with her, the joy and the fun and the sex, couldn't be equally done or more so with someone else.
But when you really make a life together, and you really love her more than any woman you think you could, not cause she is the best looking or treats you the best, but you really know her as if you know yourself and you have this really shared life, then there is no thoughts of being with others (although as men, there are alway such thoughts, but not taken seriously).
Let me give you an example of a gf/bf type of knowing and a real marriage/love type knowing.
A gf/bf will know everything about each other, what they like and don't like, if they did a quiz on a thousand things on what the other person likes or doesn't like, then they would score 100%
But, what if that quiz had things that the other gf/bf didn't ever experience, like going to italy, or buying this type of clothes or eating this new food.
A couple with a shared life, would know whether or not, their partner would like it or not even if they other hand never experienced it.
If I eat a new flavour of icecream, and my wife hasn't tasted it before, I know her so well as to say, she will like it or not, and how much she will like it. My level of knowing my wife is at such a deeper level then the top 50 things my life likes to do, I could watch 50 new movies by myself and rate them in order of what my wife would rate them as and vice versa.
that comes from a truly shared life.
So don't feel like a heel, rather be honest and of course, make a decision that will make things clearer for you.
^^
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On February 25 2011 19:44 Rekrul wrote:
Do as any true Korean man would do, fiddle around behind her back and don't let her find out!
lol any young Korean man
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On February 25 2011 22:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?
Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries? Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians. If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as; being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner. so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks, In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves. So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American. Ah Korean girls from Western countries: big question but here goes: North America: East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature. Or, Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot. West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic. You could travel the world, But nothin' comes close, To the golden coast! Once you party with u-us, you'll be fallin' in love! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're unforgettable, Daisy dukes, bikinis on top! Sunkissed skin, So hot we'll melt your popsicle! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're undeniable, Fine, fresh, fierce, We got it on lock! West coast represent, now put your hands up! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America. Europe: The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed. Japan: Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese. but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior. China: there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!) Russia: They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell! Australia/NZ Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally. ^^ Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs! Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans? I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong. Sorry, but I have to step in and say that sentiment is just plain misguided. There's no such thing as fully Chinese. You should take pride in your Chinese heritage, realize "Chinese" is a mishmash of different ethnicities, and that there is no such thing as "full Chinese." Or even Han ethnicity. If you study any of your people's history you will know that Chinese people killed each other for centuries and that there are countless tribes and clans and peoples, that's why in Guangdong alone, there are so many ethnic groups, Teo Chow, Kejia, Guangdong ren, etc. and that among Chinese people, there are many provinces that do not like each other. Fuzhou ren are not much liked, neither are Shaanxi people, etc. Han is just some idea espoused for the sake of political unity, but it has no basis in reality. Chinese is membership in an empire, not an ethnic group. It is way too late for Chinese to go back and try to divide themselves into categories of purity. Too much history and mixtures by now. And there will always be plenty of dumbass ignorant Chinese out there who will say things like "Oh, you speak with an accent, so you're not full Chinese," and other stupid things like that, but it is your fault if you are going to listen to the words of fools. As a student of Chinese history, I get really annoyed with the ignorant garbage many Chinese people spout, mostly from stupid Chinese mothers who have never opened a book and have very strange perverse notions about Chinese culture and history that seem to be based more on racism and retardation rather than any basis in reality. And Mainland Chinese are often even more ignorant due to the propaganda and brainwashing they have had from their gov't.
Chinese are more accepting of people being chinese if you declare yourself chinese, but its a different situation when you are an immigrant family living in America. To associate yourself with being Asian is the easiest thing to do because for most Asian Americans, they don't know enough about their mother culture to really say that they are chinese or korean American; even though they may have yellow pride.
I think the first thing to say is that, when in Rome do as the Romans and if you do want to understand more about your heritage and make it part of your identity,
take a year off to live in the mother land and
if you truly want to make a clear sense of your identity,
take a couple of years off and work in your motherland.
Otherwise, being 'Asian American' is probably the best designation you could give yourself without having a single deep knowledge of your heritage that isn't just provided by your parents or your other friends who are as culturally unexposed to the actual motherland culture.
But had I stayed in Canada and in Montreal, I think I would have been a full on Montrealer who's heritage was Korean but was fully French Canadian, as I wouldn't have had the exposure to actually integrate my heritage into an expressionable identity other than to say, hey I'm yellow, you yellow, we in Canada, so we Asian Canadians. ^^
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On February 26 2011 02:16 ptbl wrote:
How can I meet a nice Korean Buddhist girl in Korea? Eventually, I need to settle down, so I hope to marry a korean girl and help me do jaesa. Unfortunately, most Koreans I know in the United States are Christian.
The reason why most Koreans are Christian in the US is because the social support system for new immigrants was set up through the immigrant Korean churches, so to not attend church was to basically be cut off from any support.
But in Korea, this not the case, but Buddhist here regularly complain about the aggressive tendencies of the Korean churches, but Buddhism has been around a long time in Korea, so the major Buddhist sects are strong in organization and in financial property;
so when you come to Korea, I'd suggest you join the most wealthy or biggest Buddhist temple in Seoul and then join the registry. There you will eventually get introduced to and meet other nice pious Buddhist girls, but most Korean girls who are Buddhists are not regular temple goers, rather their parents are and they exist as being a Buddhist insofar as they haven't converted to Christianity or any religion. Buddhists in Korea don't mind Christians, but the Christians are actively trying to convert the Buddhists.
If you have family here who attend temple then go with them and introduce you to family friends from the temple, it is critical you get this introductions; just doing random meetings will lead to much of them being disqualified because they are Christian or of no religious affiliation.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2011 17:22 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 16:32 Homework wrote:
Hyung, tell me...
~I have girl troubles~
This girl that I'm with is fantastic, and I've been with her for a little over a year, but I wonder if I'm missing out on anything. So I imagine myself in relationships with other people. What do?
Help me, Mighty-Wan-Kenobi, you're my only hope. There comes a point where the life you share with another takes on a separate life of its own and will always be incomparable to the excitement and life with a new person. For instance, lets say you and your girl were trapped in a snowstorm and you both survived it and traveled for 3 days, that kind of experience takes on a life of its own; or else, you have visited 10 different countries together and you've shared new life experiences together. These kinds of things are the uniqued share life between you both, and so even if you do flirt with other women, your heart is with her. NOW, if you do the same gf/bf crap day in and day out and she is a great companion, the this is at some level interchangeable, there can be a 'better' companion out there who matches you better in personality and interests. And for young men it is 100% NATURAL to feel this way, its not like this woman is your soul mate (or not that you can tell at this point). so 2 points about it; if you love her, forge again and concentrate on sharing your lives together or take some time off, not as separation, but go off on a trip for month to a foreign country and meet new people, don't cheat on her, but if you're having a ton of fun, you don't even think about her or miss her, then you still need to explore the world my friend and while she has been fanastic to you, you still need to see more of the world and people. And this could lead to really appreciated her even more. I'll say this, before marriage, I'd say, no matter how seriously you take the relationship, until you're married, its not like you're lives will be so intertwined that what you do with her, the joy and the fun and the sex, couldn't be equally done or more so with someone else. But when you really make a life together, and you really love her more than any woman you think you could, not cause she is the best looking or treats you the best, but you really know her as if you know yourself and you have this really shared life, then there is no thoughts of being with others (although as men, there are alway such thoughts, but not taken seriously). Let me give you an example of a gf/bf type of knowing and a real marriage/love type knowing. A gf/bf will know everything about each other, what they like and don't like, if they did a quiz on a thousand things on what the other person likes or doesn't like, then they would score 100% But, what if that quiz had things that the other gf/bf didn't ever experience, like going to italy, or buying this type of clothes or eating this new food. A couple with a shared life, would know whether or not, their partner would like it or not even if they other hand never experienced it. If I eat a new flavour of icecream, and my wife hasn't tasted it before, I know her so well as to say, she will like it or not, and how much she will like it. My level of knowing my wife is at such a deeper level then the top 50 things my life likes to do, I could watch 50 new movies by myself and rate them in order of what my wife would rate them as and vice versa. that comes from a truly shared life. So don't feel like a heel, rather be honest and of course, make a decision that will make things clearer for you. ^^
Thank you so much!
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On February 26 2011 10:26 The_LiNk wrote:
Just a general question to Hyung.
What are a man's obligations to society?
I'm not into the entire Confucian levels of responsibility, but
1. take care of your wife and children first and love them first
2. be a true friend and destroy anyone who would harm them
3. prepare to protect your country to the death
4. Always be kind and patient to any child
5. never let the rabble lead, be a leader (although this gets fucked up when everyone wants to be the leader and not everyone is qualified)
Now, its nothing with some great vision, but do this and the rest will work itself out, including taking care your parents when they know that they are second to your wife and child.
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This is somewhat related to every other blog you've posted, but how did you find your calling in life (professionally)?
I am at a point in my life where I am comfortable with myself and I understand myself (25 years old). I know my strengths, I know my weaknesses, I know my maturity level. For me, the most important aspect of a career is that I am looking for a challenge, looking to constantly be able to learn a lot, and looking for peers who are equally ambitious and talented, Coming from an accounting background, I definitely felt a shortfall in the challenge part and peers of equal ambition. My thinking is investment banking, but I am only thinking that because it will give me the most flexibility in the future (I'll get broader industry exposure, develop useful general skills, be able to build a strong network, etc). I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
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O Mightyatom, how did u first get associated with TL.net? love all your writings so far, u and rekrul should author a book together about the life and times of both of your exploits in korea.
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I don't need your help anymore! My life is eZ. i stomp kk
thanks a lot for your help before <3
personal question: is it better to be a jack of all trades or master of a few. I have many hobbies.
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any black people in Korea lol I wouldn't think so and how are they treated the same as Caucasian or worse ?
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MrHoon
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why is yonsei so much better than koryo? LOOLOLOLOLOL
+ Show Spoiler +jk ty for the drinks you and rekrul bought last TL korea meet
Real Question: Im 21, all my friends are graduating from college now and unfortunately for me I'm still terrible at my major and ever since I was a kid all I wanted was to be a cartoon artist yet that dream is so far away from me now. I'm now kinda panicking because I don't know what the hell to do with my life and I'm afraid Im going to hate my job in the long run
WHAT I DO
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On February 26 2011 17:23 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 19:44 Rekrul wrote:
Do as any true Korean man would do, fiddle around behind her back and don't let her find out! lol any young Korean man
????
young Korean men fiddle around without any regard for anything often resulting in disaster
true grown korean men have golf gear and it isn't for long drives
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So what is your definition of success Mr. MightyAtom?
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Who's your favorite author?
What are the fundamental experiences you think one should get out of college/university life?
Will you teach your son to be super-competitive and let him be acclimated to the competition in Korea?
How do I stop procrastinating? T_T That is, how do I set up an environment where it's structured around work?
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On February 25 2011 13:33 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 12:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:On February 24 2011 15:07 MightyAtom wrote:On February 24 2011 14:31 Smuft wrote:
What is the difference between a typical Korean women compared to a typical North American women in terms of how they relate with men? Ah Smufty, ok, 1. Korean woman will generally concern about the man first and not expect equal treatment in bed 2. Both are very passionate in bed 3. Korean women will try to look pretty for their man, Westerns not as much 4. Korean women expect to be pampered and not to pay for anything, western women are willing to dutch and even take care of the man, but of course even if a western woman says they want equality through equal paying of costs, they usually can be convinced to accept to be financially taken care of. 5. Korean women know that a man's strength comes from controlled silence, but western women don't see it as such and thus would mistake that for being passive, when in fact they are very nearly close to death but don't realize it as such. 6. Both will nag you to death 7. Western women wont' have as high of material expectations and don't need to be as pampered, but if you do pamper them they will quickly take it for granted. For a Korean girl, they will know that they are lucky and will protect you from all other women and even friends until you are married. 8. There are both the crazy and dramatic type (high maintenance on both ends), but the Korean woman will stop if the man gets angry enough, but the western will not or push it further. 9. Korean women are more likely to stalk you after breaking up, I'd say about 100% more chance as they tend to think of you as their possession as well. 10. Korean women will very intensely passionate immediately as soon as they decide you are their man, there is no first, second, third base if they feel you are there man; so many less sexual and relationship hang ups, but Westerns in general tend to have more hang ups and are more conservative in love making (but perhaps more animalistic and savage though) But for the most part, if you were to compare Korean women to western women, out of all the Asian women, i would say that Korean women are the most similar in temperament in their passion and aggressiveness. To be honestly, I think Korean women make the perfect lovers and wives, and general companions, but they will treat you like a possession as well. Cross them and they will have their revenge. What I like about western women though is they can truly be honest loving women who's independence allows them to be lovers as well as friends. I can't say that many Korean men are friends with their Korean lovers/wives. Lol wow such a good analysis. My long-term gf is Vietnamese, but born in the USA and she's Exactly like how you described a Western woman. Including the friend part at the end. You are good MA-hyung ^^ Vietnamese are very very beautiful and lovely women and I hear they treat their man well, but if you cross them they will main you.
That is so true, Vietnamese women are nice, but if you fuck with them, they will kill you. Twice.
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Do Koreans consider themselves the "best" of East Asia? Not without reason, what with the hallyu wave quickly engulfing global pop culture, but I sense that Koreans think they are the best in nearly all aspects.
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On February 27 2011 04:16 buickskylark wrote:
Do Koreans consider themselves the "best" of East Asia? Not without reason, what with the hallyu wave quickly engulfing global pop culture, but I sense that Koreans think they are the best in nearly all aspects.
Honestly, I thought about this too. After reflexion, I figured that their incredible economic growth and booming culture makes them feel less "country-like" like most of the south-east asia countries.
As a Vietnamese, I always had the feeling that Asians don't like to be "country-like". Once you are filthy rich and don't live in a bamboo house, you start to look down the others and feel superior. This applies to any Asian country, but since Korea is getting motherf*cking rich these days, they probably have this feeling ten-fold.
I could be super wrong about this, it's just the way I see things
Also, woaaah you grew up in Montreal? Awesooome, when you'll be famous and have your own sect I'll say that I grew up in the same city as you. What do you think of McGill? 50% of asians at McGill are Chinese and 49% are koreans lol, you guys are invading the world.
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On February 27 2011 04:25 PetitCrabe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 04:16 buickskylark wrote:
Do Koreans consider themselves the "best" of East Asia? Not without reason, what with the hallyu wave quickly engulfing global pop culture, but I sense that Koreans think they are the best in nearly all aspects. Honestly, I thought about this too. After reflexion, I figured that their incredible economic growth and booming culture makes them feel less "country-like" like most of the south-east asia countries. As a Vietnamese, I always had the feeling that Asians don't like to be "country-like". Once you are filthy rich and don't live in a bamboo house, you start to look down the others and feel superior. This applies to any Asian country, but since Korea is getting motherf*cking rich these days, they probably have this feeling ten-fold. I could be super wrong about this, it's just the way I see things Also, woaaah you grew up in Montreal? Awesooome, when you'll be famous and have your own sect I'll say that I grew up in the same city as you. What do you think of McGill? 50% of asians at McGill are Chinese and 49% are koreans lol, you guys are invading the world.
It's just a classic case of the grass being greener on the other side. Look at America nowadays. Everyone's got suburban malaise and wants to be hipster green thumb organic farmers. I can't tell you how many fucking kids I meet in New York who talk about their dream of owning a farm upstate and one day selling hydroponic hand-watered organic alfalfa sprouts grown on pure sunshine and Mozart.
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On February 27 2011 05:02 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 04:25 PetitCrabe wrote:On February 27 2011 04:16 buickskylark wrote:
Do Koreans consider themselves the "best" of East Asia? Not without reason, what with the hallyu wave quickly engulfing global pop culture, but I sense that Koreans think they are the best in nearly all aspects. Honestly, I thought about this too. After reflexion, I figured that their incredible economic growth and booming culture makes them feel less "country-like" like most of the south-east asia countries. As a Vietnamese, I always had the feeling that Asians don't like to be "country-like". Once you are filthy rich and don't live in a bamboo house, you start to look down the others and feel superior. This applies to any Asian country, but since Korea is getting motherf*cking rich these days, they probably have this feeling ten-fold. I could be super wrong about this, it's just the way I see things Also, woaaah you grew up in Montreal? Awesooome, when you'll be famous and have your own sect I'll say that I grew up in the same city as you. What do you think of McGill? 50% of asians at McGill are Chinese and 49% are koreans lol, you guys are invading the world. It's just a classic case of the grass being greener on the other side. Look at America nowadays. Everyone's got suburban malaise and wants to be hipster green thumb organic farmers. I can't tell you how many fucking kids I meet in New York who talk about their dream of owning a farm upstate and one day selling hydroponic hand-watered organic alfalfa sprouts grown on pure sunshine and Mozart.
this made me lol a lot, so true, even my uncle now wants a farm
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Dear MightyAtom-Hyung,
How do you deal with getting older in life?
When you were young you obviously wanted to get older to be able to do things (drive a car/drink/ be independent etc...), but when you get older you'll be restriced to do things. I'm 22 years now and when I watch a show with older people, Band of Brothers for example, I realize they were young once as well and probably more in shape than me at my age.
A few weeks ago I got my first "serious" injury in my life while snowboarding (strained my knee) and wasn't able to continue snowboarding for 3 weeks. (Went snowboarding anyway 4 weeks later, but I realized I wasn't invincible anymore). The problem is it will only get worse.
It kinda makes me sad since I don't want to be restricted by age, but I know it's unavoidable and out of my control.
P.S. Love your blogs, gives me more motivation to don't live my life on cruise-control, but instead try to do something with it.
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hyung!
I have finally registered here after lurking for many years just to say that you are awesome.
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On February 27 2011 07:23 Regression wrote:
Dear MightyAtom-Hyung,
How do you deal with getting older in life?
When you were young you obviously wanted to get older to be able to do things (drive a car/drink/ be independent etc...), but when you get older you'll be restriced to do things. I'm 22 years now and when I watch a show with older people, Band of Brothers for example, I realize they were young once as well and probably more in shape than me at my age.
A few weeks ago I got my first "serious" injury in my life while snowboarding (strained my knee) and wasn't able to continue snowboarding for 3 weeks. (Went snowboarding anyway 4 weeks later, but I realized I wasn't invincible anymore). The problem is it will only get worse.
It kinda makes me sad since I don't want to be restricted by age, but I know it's unavoidable and out of my control.
P.S. Love your blogs, gives me more motivation to don't live my life on cruise-control, but instead try to do something with it.
At some point in my life, I used to think this too. But you have to realize that this point of view is arbitrarily saying that aging is not a "good" thing. Yes, our bodies our more frail, yes our minds are not as sharp, but we get so much wiser as we get older. And to me, wisdom is priceless. Any kid can go pick up a snowboard and learn to be good, but how many older people do you know can actually age gracefully and take stride in their life lessons learned? That is why I constantly strive to learn as much as I can from my experiences, and why I am content with the simple things in life. We are who we are, and I embrace that. Relevant picture and quote from random picture thread:
On February 26 2011 13:27 Trion wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2011 12:42 Triscuit wrote:That actually makes me feel really sad. Sorry, I don't have anything else to contribute. User was warned for this post Quote from Reddit:
I see a lot of people calling this "sad" or "depressing." I'm neither old nor young, and it just makes me smile. I'm already beginning to understand.
When you get older, it's like you hold a secret. Younger people don't know it, can't guess at it. It's who you really are. When you look in the mirror, she's right there, the 14-year-old who had her first kiss backstage during rehearsal for her first high school drama performance. The 17-year-old with the freshly-shaved mohawk she tried to hide from her parents, who moshed in the pit with the boys. The 20-year-old, knees knocking together as she gave her first poetry reading at her University in front of a bigger crowd than she'd expected. The 21-year-old who was the toast of the town, who danced up on the bar, who drove fast and smoked too much and wore short skirts and cussed like a sailor. Long legs, bleached hair, rubber dress, you'll always see that girl. Even when you're 40. Even when you're 60, probably. And it's not sad. No, it's fucking great. Because you lived,and that's more than a lot of people can say.
And your face gets lines on it, and your hair starts turning white, and people look at you like they look at everybody else, because they don't know. But you do. You know where you've been, and what you've done. You see all of your faces in that face. And you may feel a little nostalgia. But you don't feel sad. Because you have lived.
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On February 26 2011 18:55 gchan wrote:
This is somewhat related to every other blog you've posted, but how did you find your calling in life (professionally)?
I am at a point in my life where I am comfortable with myself and I understand myself (25 years old). I know my strengths, I know my weaknesses, I know my maturity level. For me, the most important aspect of a career is that I am looking for a challenge, looking to constantly be able to learn a lot, and looking for peers who are equally ambitious and talented, Coming from an accounting background, I definitely felt a shortfall in the challenge part and peers of equal ambition. My thinking is investment banking, but I am only thinking that because it will give me the most flexibility in the future (I'll get broader industry exposure, develop useful general skills, be able to build a strong network, etc). I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
It was a long road to find my professional calling in life. I think the biggest thing that contributed to it was the exposure and in depth explanation of a number of ascending career options. Now, when I was looking to be a professor/theologian, up to that point, my contact with other professional careers was extremely limited to just doctors and lawyers.
When I first started my masters in business, I remember going through the company websites of all these companies I had read about in Fortune and I was like, that is interesting etc, but its hard to really understand what was the actual job.
When I started to work for the Korean gov't agency I did grant and technology assessments as well as negotiations and I loved it; I was considering to do my Masters in law and go on to be full time international gov't negotiator, but what changed my decision was a visit from a close hyung of mine. While he was only 2 years older, he was wildly successful on the sales side of a major stock brokerage and was making about 400k a year. At the time I was in complete awe and thought making even 80k was quite exceptional. But he basically explained everything about his job and took away my lack of understanding and make it attainable.
Shortly thereafter I decided to go on the private side and by this time I knew I wanted to try to be a management consultant. There is only one firm I applied for, PwC. At the time I felt, wow, this first is so above me and when I got in, it was one of the happiest days of my life and I really really loved my job, but then something changed in that, what I thought was personally unattainable became something easy and comfortable.
Now, I worked hard, but I was fucking great at my job, I loved it. Now other consultants were just good at their job, very professional, very smart, but in terms of pure passion and results, I was a cut above my peers and I think it was because I was so damn hungry at that point to prove myself. Here I was coming from the public sector, leaving a job with 100% job security and doing 3 times more work for 40% less pay.
So I started doing consulting for companies with 5, 10, 50, and 100M in revenue per year and I met the CEOs, CFO and such and while I had learned a lot of technology related industries while in the gov't, I started learning everything under the sun as a management consultant as well as accounting, auditing etc because I was an add on to an accounting division rather than a pure consultant division team. But since I was good at my job, I realized that some of these CEO's couldn't strategically counter a zergling rush, let alone formula a strong strategy for some of the issues they were facing and I thought, gee, I could do this and fuck I'm better than this CEO with a 100M annual revenue company.
So things I thought were limits kept on getting dispelled until I got scouted by Pokerstars UK, and then I climbed the corporate ladder crushing a couple of retards along the way and basically established the entire Asia mainstream poker market and made tens of millions of dollars for my firm from just a few hundred thousand in just three years. And even when I got offered the ceo/head of marketing role if I stayed on for a couple more years, it wasn't enough now. I did prove to myself I could make in the 50-100M range with a lot of hard work, but I could do it; so I thought fuck it, I'm quitting and I'm going into private equity.
So I took a gamble as I didn't have a finance background and my networks, while strong weren't strong in that field and while I had a great verbal offer, it didn't pan out and my health took a nosedive from the amount of work and travel I had done to get to my cushy corporate position. I had managed to make a base salary that was close to the half M dollar range, and it still wasn't enough. But I got shut down hardcore here. So I had an option; go back to my cushy corporate job,or accept an entry level finance job and 'reapply'; and so I thought, fuk this,I'm gonna get my own set of investors and make my own company. I spoke with all my friends and wife and they said, 'FUCK YOU! GO BACK YOU CRAZY FUCKER, do you think you're really going to take over the world, your the most powerful man in online gaming in Asia and you work with SJM'
And so I thought for about a week on it; weighted the pros and cons and then asked the one person that I knew would give me the answer I seek, Elky. So I asked him and he said, 'For sure you can do it!' and that was it. And it has been fucking tough, but its nearly worked out now moving over from high end corporate executive to tiny CEO/equity holder. Thing I love most about it is that the higher up I go, the more I can do the thing I love, which is business strategy, as I take on all the accountability and the responsibility of the entire business process.
I'm not a product guy, I'm never going into industries where its a 'blue ocean' (no competitors in a new market segment), rather I'm also going into extremely competitive markets, the red seas of death, but this is what I love. Send me in and I'll kill everyone and make it a peaceful blue (but lifeless) ocean ^^
Investment banking is not a clear step from accounting; and the freedom you get is more from the size of the paycheck than real business networking, but for anyone in professional business, investment banking is probably the highest level of challenge you can achieve aside from private equity. I say, if you can get in, then go for it, go big and if you're single then don't think too much it because at the end of the day, its not like investment bankers or consultants are super humans;
not its just that they go for it and its not a matter of not being satisfied, but wanting to be the absolute best you can be in your professional career.
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On February 26 2011 19:16 Shizuru~ wrote:
O Mightyatom, how did u first get associated with TL.net? love all your writings so far, u and rekrul should author a book together about the life and times of both of your exploits in korea.
Elky and Smuft got me involved about 2004 ish as we were all living together and they were still playing SCBW. I'd love to write a book with Rek, but since we'd have to talk about it and likely would end up going drinking instead, it would never get finished. ^^
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On February 27 2011 18:54 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2011 19:16 Shizuru~ wrote:
O Mightyatom, how did u first get associated with TL.net? love all your writings so far, u and rekrul should author a book together about the life and times of both of your exploits in korea. Elky and Smuft got me involved about 2004 ish as we were all living together and they were still playing SCBW. I'd love to write a book with Rek, but since we'd have to talk about it and likely would end up going drinking instead, it would never get finished. ^^
lol,I thought as much.
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On February 26 2011 20:05 HeavOnEarth wrote:
I don't need your help anymore! My life is eZ. i stomp kk
thanks a lot for your help before <3
personal question: is it better to be a jack of all trades or master of a few. I have many hobbies.
It looks as though it is a simple question, but I'd like to define a bit more:
There are things you know (industry knowledge) and how you do things (the process).
When you specialize in what you know, you're level of diverse process ability is low, but your execution is excellent.
When you know many different things, you ability to process must be advanced in two ways: ability to frame work your process that it creates associations among the many things you do know and from there it creates value from diversity OR you've picked seeming different things to know, but they all have the same process.
For instance for Specialization:
You know everything about build computers, so anything related to computers, you can fix or maintain as effectively/efficiently as possible. You can make things work as they are or continue to do so. But you have a certain place on the value chain.
This makes you a necessity for any business or process to get done properly or with perfection. As long as you have specialized in something rare or needed or in demand, you will always be in need. But in order to be a true specialist you must have the singular knowledge or technique that others cannot easily replicate or aquire, otherwise, your specialization is not significant enough to be considered a specialization and just a focus.
For diversity in knowledge:
You know a lot about many things, and you can see how even though it is diverse, how they can add or help one another, so you're more focused on the functionality of things and their process rather than fixing or maintaining something. So this is good for complex social situation where there are many interactive variables and newly introduced variables/changing landscape. Leadership requires this.
Or
You know a lot about many things which are fundamentally the same thing but in different industries such as airplanes or cars or boats, but which is basically mass manufacturing of large machinery, now you will need to know how to manage the production line, the sourcing, the marketing, the labour, etc. This is more along the lines of a strategic nature where by it seems as though you are a jack of all trades, but you're really a specialist in the process of the business fundamental of mass transportation manufacturing. So this is very good for set-up of new type of products using the same specialized process techniques. So good for start-ups, new business, etc.
The thing is: when most people compare 'specialization' to 'jack of all trades' they fail to assume or give credit that the 'jack of all trades' is also an expert as well, but its not an expert in the areas of general knowledge, but ability in associating processes or process application on a number industries (which share the same type of process).
So if you want to be needed: be a specialist, but fucking really specialize.
if you want to be an executive: go process association
if you want to be a start up, set up guy: go process application
All are good, but people have a natural tendency to graviate towards one or the other, but I wanted to define it more because I think that 'jack of all trades' has a negative rap because we assume that the knowledge is superficial, then in fact the knowledge in the functionality/application rather than in of itself.
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On February 26 2011 21:24 DISHU wrote:
any black people in Korea lol I wouldn't think so and how are they treated the same as Caucasian or worse ?
Very few and treated much worse when it comes to employement and social considerations; of course if you are black or white and you are just walking down the street or are in the subway, same thing, but getting hired much harder, getting married, much harder, but if you are in and friends, then same thing.
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On February 26 2011 23:12 MrHoon wrote:why is yonsei so much better than koryo? LOOLOLOLOLOL + Show Spoiler +jk ty for the drinks you and rekrul bought last TL korea meet Real Question: Im 21, all my friends are graduating from college now and unfortunately for me I'm still terrible at my major and ever since I was a kid all I wanted was to be a cartoon artist yet that dream is so far away from me now. I'm now kinda panicking because I don't know what the hell to do with my life and I'm afraid Im going to hate my job in the long run WHAT I DO
Continue to do cartooning on the side, but realize what is about cartooning that reflects your natural disposition of skills (creativity, wittiness, art) and then look at careers out there that are similar to that skill set such as the advertising world or game content artwork;
when you've been focused on one area so long, and finally decide or realize that its not for you, or not going to happen, its natural to panic, but you just need to get more information on other types of jobs that fit you natural skill set. And any job, you can hate, but nowadays everyone changes jobs all the time, just make sure you learn the most you can out each job experience.
And the reason why Yonsei is so much better than Kodeh is because its not better and so they can follow our leadership better and be good workers; as you know our president is from Kodeh.
KODEH FIGHTING!
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On February 27 2011 02:02 Snuggles wrote:
So what is your definition of success Mr. MightyAtom?
Be the best you can be without any regret in life.
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On February 27 2011 02:13 ghrur wrote:
Who's your favorite author?
What are the fundamental experiences you think one should get out of college/university life?
Will you teach your son to be super-competitive and let him be acclimated to the competition in Korea?
How do I stop procrastinating? T_T That is, how do I set up an environment where it's structured around work?
favorite author general: Paul the apostle and Jurgen Moltman,
fantasy: Raymond E Fiest (riftwars)
Sci fi: Piers Anthony and Frank Herbert (dune)
Business: Jeffrey Fox, Jim Collins
You need to make a balance, you can't fuck up your GPA but you need to find how to be productive while not having someone direct you life, and to increase your social awareness of how others really think and to be open to learning from that diversity, but also knowing how to have a really freaking good time.
I will let my son play sports and rugby and study whenever he feels he wants to and take him on business trips with and lots of travel and teach him about business and everything under the sun. If he choses to try to be competitive in academics, I want it to by his own volition, and not by my stress, but I dont want him chained to a desk, if he goes to Ivy League or oxford, its because he got in with a Rugby scholorship.
To stop procrastinating; make clear deadlines for yourself and fill up your time more (when the task will get done and how long it will take, you need to clearly STATE THOSE TWO THINGS ALWAYS); we procrastinate because we have too much time on our hands OR for the first time in our lives we don't have someone dictating our schedule, so then get an organizer and use it every day (if anyone doesn't have a work/task organizer as professional you're fucking retard and you're more of a fucking retard if you organize by the priority of your email inbox). ^^
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On February 27 2011 04:10 PetitCrabe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 13:33 MightyAtom wrote:On February 25 2011 12:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:On February 24 2011 15:07 MightyAtom wrote:On February 24 2011 14:31 Smuft wrote:
What is the difference between a typical Korean women compared to a typical North American women in terms of how they relate with men? Ah Smufty, ok, 1. Korean woman will generally concern about the man first and not expect equal treatment in bed 2. Both are very passionate in bed 3. Korean women will try to look pretty for their man, Westerns not as much 4. Korean women expect to be pampered and not to pay for anything, western women are willing to dutch and even take care of the man, but of course even if a western woman says they want equality through equal paying of costs, they usually can be convinced to accept to be financially taken care of. 5. Korean women know that a man's strength comes from controlled silence, but western women don't see it as such and thus would mistake that for being passive, when in fact they are very nearly close to death but don't realize it as such. 6. Both will nag you to death 7. Western women wont' have as high of material expectations and don't need to be as pampered, but if you do pamper them they will quickly take it for granted. For a Korean girl, they will know that they are lucky and will protect you from all other women and even friends until you are married. 8. There are both the crazy and dramatic type (high maintenance on both ends), but the Korean woman will stop if the man gets angry enough, but the western will not or push it further. 9. Korean women are more likely to stalk you after breaking up, I'd say about 100% more chance as they tend to think of you as their possession as well. 10. Korean women will very intensely passionate immediately as soon as they decide you are their man, there is no first, second, third base if they feel you are there man; so many less sexual and relationship hang ups, but Westerns in general tend to have more hang ups and are more conservative in love making (but perhaps more animalistic and savage though) But for the most part, if you were to compare Korean women to western women, out of all the Asian women, i would say that Korean women are the most similar in temperament in their passion and aggressiveness. To be honestly, I think Korean women make the perfect lovers and wives, and general companions, but they will treat you like a possession as well. Cross them and they will have their revenge. What I like about western women though is they can truly be honest loving women who's independence allows them to be lovers as well as friends. I can't say that many Korean men are friends with their Korean lovers/wives. Lol wow such a good analysis. My long-term gf is Vietnamese, but born in the USA and she's Exactly like how you described a Western woman. Including the friend part at the end. You are good MA-hyung ^^ Vietnamese are very very beautiful and lovely women and I hear they treat their man well, but if you cross them they will main you. That is so true, Vietnamese women are nice, but if you fuck with them, they will kill you. Twice.
keke lol
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On February 27 2011 04:16 buickskylark wrote:
Do Koreans consider themselves the "best" of East Asia? Not without reason, what with the hallyu wave quickly engulfing global pop culture, but I sense that Koreans think they are the best in nearly all aspects.
We consider ourselves the best in the world with the exception of Americans (who we have a love/hate/respect/repulsed relationship with), Italians (cause they are like Koreans) and French (because they are so cool) and we don't think much about the rest of the world. In east asia, we have a chip on our shoulder when it comes to the Japanese because of the occupation, but this feeling is waning, in terms of chinese, yes, but not in terms of historical culture significance. But we don't even care about hallyu, cause most Koreans know that other countries watch our dramas, but its just on the news and such.
Cause when a typical Korean goes aboard, we are usually able to be rude enough to these non-Koreans in their own country to dispel any feelings of awe or coolness that we are Koreans and that is a good thing.
But its not that we actively think that, you need to understand that we are a society focused on the perfection of the individual such like the Spartans, we really don't care about other races or countries in general unless they have something clearly better than us (so we envy) or they are better than us in certain things that we consider that Koreans should be the best in AND we are always trying to expand the scope of things we are internationally the best in.
Literally for most Koreans we are not international people, we don't want to eat food other than Korean food if we travel abroad, we love our country and if no foreigners EVER came to Korea, we wouldn't ever care at all. We are a very egotistical race of people, not because we don't like people but we are all born into this spartan like culture of individual of trying to be perfect while trying to be true friends lol. But yes, we think we are the best in nearly everything as individuals, but not a society or culture, if you can get that. ^^ but its not because we look down on others, its because we think it is what our race's existence is to be the best in all things.
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On February 27 2011 04:25 PetitCrabe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 04:16 buickskylark wrote:
Do Koreans consider themselves the "best" of East Asia? Not without reason, what with the hallyu wave quickly engulfing global pop culture, but I sense that Koreans think they are the best in nearly all aspects. Honestly, I thought about this too. After reflexion, I figured that their incredible economic growth and booming culture makes them feel less "country-like" like most of the south-east asia countries. As a Vietnamese, I always had the feeling that Asians don't like to be "country-like". Once you are filthy rich and don't live in a bamboo house, you start to look down the others and feel superior. This applies to any Asian country, but since Korea is getting motherf*cking rich these days, they probably have this feeling ten-fold. I could be super wrong about this, it's just the way I see things Also, woaaah you grew up in Montreal? Awesooome, when you'll be famous and have your own sect I'll say that I grew up in the same city as you. What do you think of McGill? 50% of asians at McGill are Chinese and 49% are koreans lol, you guys are invading the world.
Love McGill, love Prince Arthur, love St. Laurent, love the old city and prince edward pier ^^
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On February 27 2011 07:23 Regression wrote:
Dear MightyAtom-Hyung,
How do you deal with getting older in life?
When you were young you obviously wanted to get older to be able to do things (drive a car/drink/ be independent etc...), but when you get older you'll be restriced to do things. I'm 22 years now and when I watch a show with older people, Band of Brothers for example, I realize they were young once as well and probably more in shape than me at my age.
A few weeks ago I got my first "serious" injury in my life while snowboarding (strained my knee) and wasn't able to continue snowboarding for 3 weeks. (Went snowboarding anyway 4 weeks later, but I realized I wasn't invincible anymore). The problem is it will only get worse.
It kinda makes me sad since I don't want to be restricted by age, but I know it's unavoidable and out of my control.
P.S. Love your blogs, gives me more motivation to don't live my life on cruise-control, but instead try to do something with it.
^^
I am not growing old gracefully. I personally never liked the idea of growing up, I pretty much knew, even when I was kindergarten that being a kid was a good thing.
but while you are getting younger, what I find is if you interact with older people or in a new environment like getting into the work force, getting married, having kids, you focus on other things;
Like feeling entry level, newly wed couple, young dad.
But I have always hung out with younger people as well and dress a bit younger than my age and I still keep in touch with some popular culture.
But keep in mind, the greater the age, the greater the things you can also achieve. Not everyone is a child prodigy, or 18 year old olympian, rather, there is still a whole life to achieve great things ^^
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On February 27 2011 15:12 where wrote:
hyung!
I have finally registered here after lurking for many years just to say that you are awesome.
gam sah ^^*
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Hi,
If you had no son(s) but a daughter and she would be your only child, would you raise her in accordance to Korean standardized cultural norms, or would you raise her differently?
What i'm getting at is that you differentiate between western and Korean women - which model would you choose for your hypothetical daughter?
Also - what would be your dream for her at a hypothetical age of 32:
a) President - single, no children
b) First Lady - married, three children
Lastly, if you were given the choice before her birth - how would you attribute her "stats" if you had a sum total of 100% to distribute between:
a) Beauty
b) Intellect
c) Artistic/Musical talent
Thank you for your time and for the effort you've put into this thread.
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The Mighty One, I have a question. You have the Mantra I AM A MACHINE.
When and How did that become your mantra?
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On February 27 2011 19:43 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 02:13 ghrur wrote:
Who's your favorite author?
What are the fundamental experiences you think one should get out of college/university life?
Will you teach your son to be super-competitive and let him be acclimated to the competition in Korea?
How do I stop procrastinating? T_T That is, how do I set up an environment where it's structured around work? favorite author general: Paul the apostle and Jurgen Moltman, fantasy: Raymond E Fiest (riftwars) Sci fi: Piers Anthony and Frank Herbert (dune) Business: Jeffrey Fox, Jim Collins
Haha you read sf and fantasy? One day I will be your favorite author! :D
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I like the answer you gave for the success question. I feel like it's a question I want to ask anyone before putting any trust into their words. There are different answers but anyone who has their head straight in life will give the same or a similar answer you gave.
So here's another question.
What is your opinion on Multi-level marketing? Very recently a bunch of my friends have been exposed to it. Including one very close one. I've read into MLM and it seems to me that there's a lot mixed opinions about it and I just don't know whats the real deal about MLM. Personally when I had my own run in with a Rep from a MLM company trying to bring me into his business, I absolutely HATED it. I consider myself a pretty open minded person, but I was really disgusted by how superficial his little presentation was. He would make claims that he worked for "Global Ten" companies, worked for Allianz as some division head of so-and-so sector. He showed me video recording of his dying father, and a picture of his sister with his neice.
As to how much truth there was to his claims, I don't know, but after talking to another friend who met the same rep and heard different claims- there's probably not a whole lot. Because there's no reason to go from a job like that to a shitty rep in an MLM company.
Well anyways, if I go on I'll be just ranting and venting about how I hate that sort of marketing. I just want to hear a valid opinion from a business guy like yourself MightAtom.
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Do all Koreans listen to K-POP? is it limited to the female audience? What age range is targeted? Do you, as a manly korean man, listen to it?
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Wow, I got a requested 30-day tempban and was stalking your thread nonstop because I really look up to you, your responses fascinated me, and all the questions asked were amazing, and now that I'm back on TL, I really can't think of anything to ask. This has been a terrible week for me--bad to worse--but I think I've really begun to change after going through these hardships (which were all 100% my fault)...
Anyway, the questions I have are really numerous, really random, and really varied, but nothing particularly stands out at the moment so I'll refrain from asking your help unless there's an actual burning question haha
Thank you for everything though!
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On February 27 2011 23:13 Thrill wrote:
Hi,
If you had no son(s) but a daughter and she would be your only child, would you raise her in accordance to Korean standardized cultural norms, or would you raise her differently?
What i'm getting at is that you differentiate between western and Korean women - which model would you choose for your hypothetical daughter?
Also - what would be your dream for her at a hypothetical age of 32:
a) President - single, no children
b) First Lady - married, three children
Lastly, if you were given the choice before her birth - how would you attribute her "stats" if you had a sum total of 100% to distribute between:
a) Beauty
b) Intellect
c) Artistic/Musical talent
Thank you for your time and for the effort you've put into this thread.
Very interesting question; I have a second son due in early May, but we plan to have 4 children, so we hope the next two will be daughters.
Now the thing is, most Korean's can't choose how to raise their daughters and in many ways, I am the same way, fundamentally I am a Korean so that includes the good and the bad, there are things about westerns that annoy me to no end and there are things which I know I shouldn't do, like over react to bad manners, but I can't help it.
A cousin of mine, raised in a very traditional household but raised in Canada, went to Cornell and married a very nice American guy from a very wealthy new england backgrounds, you know, something something the third of whatever and my mother says to me that my uncle is heartbroken and that she should have married a Korean American at least. And I laugh and say to my mother, 'Mom, do you think any real Korean man would want to marry a wife like that? She is only suitable for westerners' and my mother thought about it for a moment, and agreed.
That is not to say I haven't been attracted to some wonderful western women, but again, those in particular had their PHDs and were already open to many different cultures. I went out with a Navy Lieutenant who was in intelligence and could speak like 5 languages and she was quite attractive and wonderful (although her diction was very military like, she used the words like 'obtain' or 'observe' rather than get or see lol), so many qualities that I was attracted too were perhaps not typically found in the average western lady, although Jessica Alba can make me her love slave anytime, um, if she wasn't married and I wasn't either ^^.
But nowadays, women will chose as they chose, but if I had a choice in the matter, I'd raise her as an elite modern background Korean, but with international sensibilities. But keep in mind, that even family's now are changing as women have become much more financially independent, but in my opinion, still socially the same (so things like marriaging age is being pushed back, but I doubt most Korean women don't want to get married and have a child and the limitation on the number of children is financially influenced). Also, if you're from a Seoul based family or from a country or upper class but not Seoul background, then there are slight difference as well in how the daughters are treated.
But of course, my dream would be that she be president, to say otherwise would be ignorant. But being first wife of a good man who is an exceptional president is great as well. But if we're talking about dreams, then president is good and plus if she can accomplish that by 32, holy crap, she'd be the youngest for the rest of history. But if you're talking something relatively more reasonable as she being 52 and president with no children, if she really wants it, then wonderful, the country can be her children, and I would be happy for her as any Korean father would be with such an exceptional achievement.
But to even further make it a reasonable scenario; 33, no children, partner in PwC or 33, 2 children and married to a partner in PwC; the latter. What's the point? I don't need to actually have become a partner in PwC to show that I could have been, rather I want to do what brings out what life has to offer; for a man that is ambition, for a woman that can be ambition, but it also can be family as well as expressing that ambition through their children, their husband and even through social work, but slaving for money, what is the point, unless you were a man and had a family to support? I'd not wish anyone to simply slave at a corporate job for money and to be a 'career' person in personal identity only.
Out of the three attributes, ideally I'd like to see it as:
Beauty: 33.3%
Intelligence:33.6%
Musical/Artistic ability:33.1%
Without beauty in Korea, she'd a have a miserable life as most women are attractive
Without intelligence I'd think my wife had an affair
Without musical artistic ability, she'd have no social skills
But when I write these out, I expect that if the average girl had 100 points of attributes to work with, she'd have started off or was able to achieve 200 points, but you'd get my point that we do have a holistic view, just because I make them nearly all equal, I don't expect them to be all average, I expect them to be equally exceptional, regardless of her actual results, but that she has the potential to be.
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On February 28 2011 00:16 Marksman wrote:
The Mighty One, I have a question. You have the Mantra I AM A MACHINE.
When and How did that become your mantra?
At one point, I became one with my work, totally consumed. The work load and the challenge had become too much and I had no energy or will left to put my all into it, and even the thought of being a pussy or a loser was not enough to motivate me, so I gave it all up, all the complaints, the pain, the effort and I wrote in my MSN, I am a Machine. And then I was and then I did not think or feel, I just did.
My bosses didn't like that, they thought I had gone over the edge, that they thought I was pushing myself too hard that I was going over the edge; but when you have great timing and the stars align, you want to maximize it; when everything is going to the shitter and you're the last man standing, you stand, and you fight. And I couldn't do that being the happy-go-lucky angry and passionate guy that I was, no I shut it all down and became the MACHINE.
Now was this a good think for me in the long run, no. If you are in Machine Mode for too long, you become numb to everything; you have no joy, no hobbies, you don't waste time to listen to music or watch any type of TV or movies, you are completely separated from the world and you body hurts, the alarm bell goes off you wake up and you never actually sleep.
So now I use it sparingly, because we aren't machines although I have day dreamed about being MightyAtom my entire life (AstroBoy for those in the US). ^^
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On February 28 2011 03:12 Snuggles wrote:
I like the answer you gave for the success question. I feel like it's a question I want to ask anyone before putting any trust into their words. There are different answers but anyone who has their head straight in life will give the same or a similar answer you gave.
So here's another question.
What is your opinion on Multi-level marketing? Very recently a bunch of my friends have been exposed to it. Including one very close one. I've read into MLM and it seems to me that there's a lot mixed opinions about it and I just don't know whats the real deal about MLM. Personally when I had my own run in with a Rep from a MLM company trying to bring me into his business, I absolutely HATED it. I consider myself a pretty open minded person, but I was really disgusted by how superficial his little presentation was. He would make claims that he worked for "Global Ten" companies, worked for Allianz as some division head of so-and-so sector. He showed me video recording of his dying father, and a picture of his sister with his neice.
As to how much truth there was to his claims, I don't know, but after talking to another friend who met the same rep and heard different claims- there's probably not a whole lot. Because there's no reason to go from a job like that to a shitty rep in an MLM company.
Well anyways, if I go on I'll be just ranting and venting about how I hate that sort of marketing. I just want to hear a valid opinion from a business guy like yourself MightAtom.
Even if you like to do sales and have no formal business background, then MLM is a double edged sword because it actually requires a certain type of really hard seller type of personality (relentless, pushy, constantly networking and a real need for short term achievements). If you don't have this type of outlook, its very very hard to make MLM work.
But once out of curiosity I visited one of these places on a whim (was in the middle of projects) and I go to the seminar and meet the recruiter. The guy had a half gold submariner watch on, firm hand shake, crisp suit and asked questions like,' what's your goal in life, how much do you want to be earning, you can do that now!' etc. So really a full on sales pitch and I was seated with a group of 8 individuals and the other people were really getting into it and answering the questions with a lot of passion like, 'I really want to get into something like this and really maximize my earning potential'; so I just patiently observed and then he asked me, how much do I want to be making 3 years from now and I said, mmm....at least 3 M a year, minimum. And he was like, 'Great, David has some great goals, etc, blah, blah.' and so for them it was like, I was stating what I was dreaming of hoping to make, when in fact, it actually my reasonable target to be making.
So needless to say, as soon as it was for the next part of the seminar, I just asked to be excused, and while they did keep up the sales act with me for a last shot, it was clear that since even my diamond half gold datejust and even my ferragamos were probably more expensive than their suits; they just drop the pitch and thanked them for their time. But the fact is, they knew they were outclassed by me on so many professional levels, but they were sales guys and they didn't stop trying to recruit me until the very last second. A special breed.
I didn't think were bad guys at, but different kinds of people, because some people who are really motivated to sell to everyone they know through their own social networks and through local business networks can be quite successful and also in how they recruit in MLM. But I'd say, the reason by it attracts so many people is that it looks like a short cut and I say this very clearly.
In business you can get 'lucky,' but its because you took a lot of effort and little steps to prepare to be ready to take on opportunity when it arose. Luckiness in business is preparation.
Don't waste your time if you feel this way, but don't judge them as losers, everyone is trying to do their thing, but for you, this probably isn't it.
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On February 28 2011 08:19 PetitCrabe wrote:
Do all Koreans listen to K-POP? is it limited to the female audience? What age range is targeted? Do you, as a manly korean man, listen to it?
Yes and no, we don't think of it as K-pop, its just what is on the TV or radio when you go to the supermarket; but as a culture, sure there are hit song like the Wondergirl's, 'Tell me' when everyone was doing the dance. But its for young middle school girls mainly. Older people listen to english pop songs or have a diverse range of interests from Jazz or metal, but generally, we all love powerful Ballards (love songs etc).
I personally do not listen at all to K-pop, but I watch the videos with my 2 year old son as we both like seeing young ladies dance in coordination in their unique fusion of cute and slightly sexy dance moves. But I'll rock a mean ballard any day of the week ^^
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On February 28 2011 10:17 Z3kk wrote:
Wow, I got a requested 30-day tempban and was stalking your thread nonstop because I really look up to you, your responses fascinated me, and all the questions asked were amazing, and now that I'm back on TL, I really can't think of anything to ask. This has been a terrible week for me--bad to worse--but I think I've really begun to change after going through these hardships (which were all 100% my fault)...
Anyway, the questions I have are really numerous, really random, and really varied, but nothing particularly stands out at the moment so I'll refrain from asking your help unless there's an actual burning question haha
Thank you for everything though!
Good, I'll be here as long as I'll be here and just ask then you need too ^^
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How do you deal with angry female managers and yes this is a serious question.
I have this problem at work as if anytime I disagree with her it turns in to a huge argument which is not intended goal at all, it's incredibly frustrating and now I just let her have her way and do the best that I see fit.
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You answers so far has really inspired me and i have decided to turn to you for advice regarding my relationship.
Short about me, closer to 30 years old than 20, decent job (good pay, fun but no chance for advancement within the company) and has lived with my girlfriend for the last two years. I love her and we work well together and during the last two years we have become closer and closer and started building our life together, bying furniture together, planning vacations together etc. If things would have moved on in the same nice way i would have asked her to marry me in not a not to far future. (moving in together before marrige is common practise in sweden)
Problem is that when we met she was studying, and then for a while she was unemplyed and just got a job a few months ago. And with that job our sexlife pretty much died. She works wierd hours she cant plan, are always tired and no longer have any interest/time over for sex. This includes weekends btw.
I have talked about the issue with her and she says she is sorry about the situation but cant help being tired and not wanting to have sex.
This has continued for some months now and i belive this will be the way our relationship will be for now, sex once/twice a month or at special occasions.
I am not sure how i feel about this or how i should continue our relationship, obviously it is not enough to keep me happy. But on the other hand i love this girl, live with her and has started building a life together and do not want to throw that away because i am horny. I feel that at least for the following months/years there is very little chance for us to return to our previous sexlife, i have discussed it with her at lenght and that is how she feels right now.
Now what should i do? On one hand i have the girl i love and who fit me so well in life, the time i invested with her and our possible future. On the other hand i am in a relationship where i am constantly feeling unsatisfied and frustrated.
I feel like i need to make a decision one way or another, either i accept this as a part of my adult life and find happiness where i can in our relationship. Or i decide it is not enough for me, cut my losses, move out (or well kick her out...) and start over hoping to find a new girl to build a future with.
P.S. being unfaitful or something like that is out of the question.
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Ahh yes.. another reason to love TL. Always a good place to find good legitimate and sound advice. Thanks MightyAtom. I feel pretty bad for being so judgmental of people in MLM businesses. But now I know better =)
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On March 01 2011 17:49 haduken wrote:
How do you deal with angry female managers and yes this is a serious question.
I have this problem at work as if anytime I disagree with her it turns in to a huge argument which is not intended goal at all, it's incredibly frustrating and now I just let her have her way and do the best that I see fit.
This is a very serious question. It depends why they are so angry, whether or not it comes from the pressures of trying not to look stupid in a male dominated position; or that she isn't really smart enough to deal with the position and simply reacts as anyone would react when they are in over their head.
IF it is first part, be charming, make her smile and ask her what she thinks, and say, look I have this issue, what do you think. Then say thanks instead of telling her that she is wrong or whatever. Then go back to her and say, mmm...I thought about it, but I'm still having issues with it, what you think about so and so approach? So then the response may be better at this point because she knows you already tried her way. You may want to set her up by making her feel good about her answers; because if every time to go to her, you argue with her, then obviously she gets the mind set that you are going to attacker her anyways.
If she is actually in over her head and really can't do the job; try to have some social time with her, let her know that you think that the job is tough and that you're gonna try your best to support her. If she opens up and starts to use you for support and work then great. If not, then let her shoot herself in the foot over the long run, but always cover your ass by simply asking 1 time very nicely and when she goes bonkers, you say, ok, just letting you know. This way, when the shit does hit the fan, you can say that you did ask her, but she ignored you, RATHER than not telling her at all and then look like you were irresponsible.
DO NOT TRY TO OVERTHROW HER, let her fuck herself and even it takes time, just let it go. Plus always remember, no matter how evil a woman is, a woman is a woman and if you give her care (as in she knows you can support her) then they will usually ease up. But again, in a male competitive situation, she may be pressured to try to do everything on her own.
Btw everyone, I'm on an extended business trip and the last 2 days when writing responses, I've been just going on 4 hours of sleep, so if my grammar is horrible lately, please understand, I'm writing these posts in between my other work and right before I go to bed. Cheers.
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Guys, please ask more questions to MightyAtom-hyung! This thread is too good to die!
I have a few for now:
What kind of friends should I make in college if I want to be successful? Is it better to have a few close 'blood-brother' friends or a lot of 'just friends'?
As you are a Christian, at what age is it right for a 'true man' to have sex?
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I'm in the process of starting a (small) business and I have to deal with contractors and sales reps from vendors. My questions are what are some negotiation insights involved in getting the best deal possible and after that, ensuring that terms are meet to my satisfaction?
Also, any book/author recommendations for learning how to negotiate?
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On March 02 2011 02:38 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2011 17:49 haduken wrote:
How do you deal with angry female managers and yes this is a serious question.
I have this problem at work as if anytime I disagree with her it turns in to a huge argument which is not intended goal at all, it's incredibly frustrating and now I just let her have her way and do the best that I see fit. This is a very serious question. It depends why they are so angry, whether or not it comes from the pressures of trying not to look stupid in a male dominated position; or that she isn't really smart enough to deal with the position and simply reacts as anyone would react when they are in over their head. IF it is first part, be charming, make her smile and ask her what she thinks, and say, look I have this issue, what do you think. Then say thanks instead of telling her that she is wrong or whatever. Then go back to her and say, mmm...I thought about it, but I'm still having issues with it, what you think about so and so approach? So then the response may be better at this point because she knows you already tried her way. You may want to set her up by making her feel good about her answers; because if every time to go to her, you argue with her, then obviously she gets the mind set that you are going to attacker her anyways. If she is actually in over her head and really can't do the job; try to have some social time with her, let her know that you think that the job is tough and that you're gonna try your best to support her. If she opens up and starts to use you for support and work then great. If not, then let her shoot herself in the foot over the long run, but always cover your ass by simply asking 1 time very nicely and when she goes bonkers, you say, ok, just letting you know. This way, when the shit does hit the fan, you can say that you did ask her, but she ignored you, RATHER than not telling her at all and then look like you were irresponsible. DO NOT TRY TO OVERTHROW HER, let her fuck herself and even it takes time, just let it go. Plus always remember, no matter how evil a woman is, a woman is a woman and if you give her care (as in she knows you can support her) then they will usually ease up. But again, in a male competitive situation, she may be pressured to try to do everything on her own. Btw everyone, I'm on an extended business trip and the last 2 days when writing responses, I've been just going on 4 hours of sleep, so if my grammar is horrible lately, please understand, I'm writing these posts in between my other work and right before I go to bed. Cheers.
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these have already been kind of answered and some seem obvious but i usually find the dumbest, simplest questions are the rewarding ones
1) What should I start doing now to cultivate decision-making? prioritizing with heavy schedules?
2) What situations, books, and other experiences should I throw myself to develop/mature nunchi?
3) If you wrote your ass-lazy undergraduate self a guide to college, how would it look (in addition to 530-10 and fuck off rest of day post)
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Do Koreans actually use the word "Reckon" very often?
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On March 01 2011 20:21 DND_Enkil wrote:
You answers so far has really inspired me and i have decided to turn to you for advice regarding my relationship.
Short about me, closer to 30 years old than 20, decent job (good pay, fun but no chance for advancement within the company) and has lived with my girlfriend for the last two years. I love her and we work well together and during the last two years we have become closer and closer and started building our life together, bying furniture together, planning vacations together etc. If things would have moved on in the same nice way i would have asked her to marry me in not a not to far future. (moving in together before marrige is common practise in sweden)
Problem is that when we met she was studying, and then for a while she was unemplyed and just got a job a few months ago. And with that job our sexlife pretty much died. She works wierd hours she cant plan, are always tired and no longer have any interest/time over for sex. This includes weekends btw.
I have talked about the issue with her and she says she is sorry about the situation but cant help being tired and not wanting to have sex.
This has continued for some months now and i belive this will be the way our relationship will be for now, sex once/twice a month or at special occasions.
I am not sure how i feel about this or how i should continue our relationship, obviously it is not enough to keep me happy. But on the other hand i love this girl, live with her and has started building a life together and do not want to throw that away because i am horny. I feel that at least for the following months/years there is very little chance for us to return to our previous sexlife, i have discussed it with her at lenght and that is how she feels right now.
Now what should i do? On one hand i have the girl i love and who fit me so well in life, the time i invested with her and our possible future. On the other hand i am in a relationship where i am constantly feeling unsatisfied and frustrated.
I feel like i need to make a decision one way or another, either i accept this as a part of my adult life and find happiness where i can in our relationship. Or i decide it is not enough for me, cut my losses, move out (or well kick her out...) and start over hoping to find a new girl to build a future with.
P.S. being unfaitful or something like that is out of the question.
1. Sex needs to be there, its part of expressing love and being a man/human, if you're horny its good thing and still horny for her. While being constantly feeling unsatisfied and frustrated is not the end of the world, as you may feel this if we both were apart for long distance travel or if your wife was pregnant, for it to be an indefinite thing, well frankly speaking, its bad, you do need both love and sex.
2. The biggest issue here is, is she trying her best to still try to satisfy you or more to the point, make an effort to prioritize her, regardless of her work. What this means is, if she knows you are horny, does she try to do something, anything to satisfy you or does she simply think you need to understand her and deal with it. In this case, you may think, you're the bad guy because you should care enough about your woman to just understand, but where is the understanding on her part.
3. You love her, that is a strong statement, and from your description, you have put a lot of mature, honest and deep thought into this, now, on the flip side, her work seems very stressful or intense along with the weird working hours. The fact is that women need sleep to feel regular, if women don't get enough sleep, their hormones get fucked up and they get bad skin etc. But, you need to ask her, when does this job get more regular or start to get easier; in many professional jobs such as accountant or consultant, it isn't until the 2nd year of work do things get easier, so you really may need to wait a year. While I'm sure you've been supportive, you may wish to really explore, why is she so run down/tired beyond the obvious answers, because sex 1 or 2 times a month is really way too infrequent, especially if you both were quite sexually active before hand. So really get to know her job and you guys might be able to talk it through.
4. If this job is the be all and end all of her career, well she has no choice, but ask her to consider to get a job that doesn't make her some tired; its a reasonable request as she basically is even too tired to have sex. But what you should do in the meantime is go on a vacation for a few days, let her sleep in and get a couple nights of really good rest in and then see what happens; if the spark is still there, its just that she maybe is really just way to tired. But even if she, she needs to consider about the health of this relationship, UNLESS, she really is tied to this job and if there is the light at the end of the tunnel. But you can request this, why because if you both love each other then you need to try to fix things; not just talk about it, but take some action and if someone says, you're so selfish to make her quit her job to have sex, tell em to fuck off, because this isn't about sex, but about someone who you love that is so tired that she basically can't have sex and it is straining the relationship apart.
You can be considerate, but only if she is considerate as well, work can't be an excuse that ends all conversation on the matter, that is selfish on her part. She also needs to let you know, when things can change, no matter how tired she is and if you both know that her work will normally be difficult for x number of months, well then accept it because you love one another. BUT IF YOU KNOW HER, to be a considerate person and even right now she is being considerate and loves you, but simply is at her limits, then support her; rub her feet, tell her,
baby, its a rough time right now, but I love you and you'll figure it out, I know you will.
And give her a bit more time to figure it out, and if she can't because the job is just too fucked, if you both want this to work, she should find another job because wtf is the point to have a job if don't have each other.
For one year, I was on business travel 8 months throughout the year; at the time my wife was pregnant with our first child. I would be away for a month or even a month and a half at the time. My wife endured. I came home one day and my wife was sitting on the bed, singing to our unborn child, and I listened to her and she recited about 15 children songs straight and I realized that that is what she had been doing in my absence, just waiting for me to come home and for our baby to be born and it broke my heart that I put work so much in front of her and wasn't there to give her joy during this time.
We can put work first and think its for the best, but we lose sight that this time is just the one time we have with each other. We need to make sacrifices to move forward in life, but once we lose that consideration, we aren't enduring it together, but enduring it apart. and for what end?
Find out what makes her tired, take a vacation, ask her to change jobs, because you love her.
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On March 01 2011 22:23 Snuggles wrote:
Ahh yes.. another reason to love TL. Always a good place to find good legitimate and sound advice. Thanks MightyAtom. I feel pretty bad for being so judgmental of people in MLM businesses. But now I know better =)
Let people be as they are, all people need to eat. But don't feel bad cause anyway, it was just your natural reaction and that is definitely not for you ^^
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On March 02 2011 10:57 SkyLegenD wrote:
Guys, please ask more questions to MightyAtom-hyung! This thread is too good to die!
I have a few for now:
What kind of friends should I make in college if I want to be successful? Is it better to have a few close 'blood-brother' friends or a lot of 'just friends'?
As you are a Christian, at what age is it right for a 'true man' to have sex?
We make friends as we do, its the one thing in life that fate really just throws our way, but trying to dictate what types of friends you make may make you superficial in some sense, because on what basis are you deciding to pick your 'friends' on?
But in college you'll meet a lot of people, so if you're gonna filter it, hang around people who will challenge you in what you think is fair, right, wrong and who are genuinely seeking to understand and not just argue for the sake of arguing. And never hang out with people who complain all the time, waste of time.
I have a few close brothers, but also some friends who I don't have so many similar interests, but who have challenged me to broaden my mind whenever we have shared time together, so just let your natural personality dictate it.
As a Christian, I can only say, age it doesn't matter, only that when you have sex, it is with the one you love. Now I've failed at this countless times, but the first woman I had a real sexual relationship with, I loved deeply and would not be made to feel ashamed that, even as Christian or criticism from my Christian peers that I had done something wrong. No, we were in love and that is how we expressed our love.
There is a pithy staying: lust can't wait to take, but love can wait to give,
but I say, if you're honest and both in love, fully enjoy it because having sex when you are in love, is something wonderful than just having sex for whatever other reason and you'll know when that is.
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On March 02 2011 13:11 hammeronetime wrote:
I'm in the process of starting a (small) business and I have to deal with contractors and sales reps from vendors. My questions are what are some negotiation insights involved in getting the best deal possible and after that, ensuring that terms are meet to my satisfaction?
Also, any book/author recommendations for learning how to negotiate?
You need to find someone you trust in the industry that can sit down with and have a list of these questions and be able to ask through and get their response. They will immediately know the answers and set you straight. In any time you're in a new business environment, no matter how much reserach or preparation you do, it will not make sense or be enough until you have someone who is veteran of that industry simply answer a host of questions for you. It will connect all the dots.
The issue is as well, you may get the best deal, but the worst performance.
The best overall book is for negotiations:' You can negotiate everything' Herb Cohen
I've read a lot of book on negotiation and 99% of them are bullshit strategies, this will give you the right mind set which is aggressive, but reasonable. But get a veteran to answer your questions, 30 mins with them will save 3 months of mistakes right off the bat.
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On March 02 2011 23:59 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
these have already been kind of answered and some seem obvious but i usually find the dumbest, simplest questions are the rewarding ones
1) What should I start doing now to cultivate decision-making? prioritizing with heavy schedules?
2) What situations, books, and other experiences should I throw myself to develop/mature nunchi?
3) If you wrote your ass-lazy undergraduate self a guide to college, how would it look (in addition to 530-10 and fuck off rest of day post)
1. put yourself in new positions of responsibility that have non-routine environments, make a fuck load of unintentional mistakes, fix em and learn from them.
2. stop talking so much and listen and look and try to anticipate the words and thoughts of where people are going with a conversation or mood; do it long enough and you'll know if you suck at it or if you have some talent at it. If you suck at it, the stop talking altogether, if you're good at it, don't get cocky and think you're a mind reader. At home I rarely speak, just grunt here and there.
3. get a job and pay your own tuition then you'd not be lazy ass and appreciate your studies
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On March 03 2011 02:59 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Do Koreans actually use the word "Reckon" very often?
Koreans actually speak Korean, but if they are raised in Australia or work with a lot of Aussie then will pick up 2 things: 'no worries' and 'I reckon' instead of 'no problems/don't worry about it' and 'I think' but I reckon you don't have much contact with Aussies, but most casino expat staff in Asia are Aussies.
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What makes Koreans different from everybody else? The fact that they live on the other side of an imaginary line? Just because you are developed with different paradigms doesn't make you different. Everybody is essentially the same.
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wait it kinda got answered nvm
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would you ever consider going into politics? why/why not?
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On March 03 2011 04:49 tryummm wrote:
What makes Koreans different from everybody else? The fact that they live on the other side of an imaginary line? Just because you are developed with different paradigms doesn't make you different. Everybody is essentially the same.
it's called culture bro
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On March 03 2011 04:49 tryummm wrote:
What makes Koreans different from everybody else? The fact that they live on the other side of an imaginary line? Just because you are developed with different paradigms doesn't make you different. Everybody is essentially the same.
Since you already answered your own question with such insightfulness I really don't want to bother to reply.
But for others who encounter this type of outstanding line of logic which masks arrogance with acceptance, lets break it down.
Who is denying that people on a basic level of humanity are not all the same? It is what makes us human.
If you use that level of understanding and then apply it to the obvious cultural differences, thereby simply ignoring everything and concluding all those differences are insignificant because we are human, then what have you accomplished except to justified your continued cultural ignorance under some pretentious and misguided attempt to look above it all? Leaving no further room for discussion or understanding. It's like the British going into India and saying these cultural differences are insignificant, so lets just ignore them, not realizing or caring that in fact that by saying so, justifies them to impose their own cultural norms over others.
The fact that you use a phrase 'imaginary line' completely simplifies the socio-economic and real cultural territories which have created environments in how people interact to each other, and you assume that these lines were arbitrarily drawn. If someone is raised in South Central LA opposed to Beverly Hills, the cultural divide is quite real even if you were to suddenly take away any imaginary lines and put them all into the same room to interact. Now this is further amplified if we take different cultures separated by centuries of development and boarder drawn by wars and bloodshed.
What makes Koreans different? Lets say by your line of reasoning, everyone is essentially the same? Now lets apply it the way you have, so men and women are essentially the same. So people from different levels of wealth are essentially the same. And even with all the different personalities of people, we are essentially the same.
So what does this kind of reasoning lead to? Does it make us more accepting or does it make us arrogant in assuming that these differences don't need to be considered? So lets not consider that women are generally paid less for the same job, this must be an exception.
Lets assume that someone from poverty has every same ability and chance to go to an Ivy League school or support his/her family, no, we are all the same, what does the lack of wealth affect one's opportunities. And lets interact with everyone in the same way, treat everyone equally with no consideration to their unique personalities or even mental disabilities.
And I'm sure that if you go negotiate with the Chinese gov't that you're sure to negotiate with them the same way you would with the British gov't; I mean, we're all the same right?
We don't discuss our differences to say one is better than the other, but to really appreciate and come to an understanding that once we fully acknowledge our differences, our sight is cleared to truly accept that we are the same in humanity.
I understand you're trying to say that we shouldn't let our cultural differences stand in the way of our shared humanity, but you're insulting and ignorant to insinuate that the object to point out these differences is contrary to that objective.
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Is military service a waste of 2 years, especially to your education and youth?
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On March 03 2011 10:06 milikan wrote:
would you ever consider going into politics? why/why not?
I have and no, I would not. But that is just me.
You need to look at the motivations of why you want to be a politician.
Now the common answer would be to 'do good' for your nation.
But the reality is, you can do a lot more good for your nation outside of politics because you do not need to go through the various levels of procedures.
The main obstacle for doing good is actually capital/funds; whether it is food for a food bank or an orphanage. Now if you had a million, you could actually hire a host of people to do further charity work.
But at a national or infrastructural level, yes a politician can do changes, but they need the momentum of society or key figures to push these kinds of plans through,
so personally, I'd like to do good, but play a more efficient part of the chain by funding social projects.
Now in terms leading national security or creating bill/laws for the people;
I think it takes a certain type of person who enjoys the thrill of the political process;
I can remember in my political since department there were 3 distinct groups of people, the public admin, the international relations and the political philosophy group.
The pubic admin guys look always made up, were part of a political party and had something stuck up their asses; the international relations group were the cool sophisticated group who argued about the value of about NGOs and different gov't structures and had plans to travel and the political philosophy group look like coffee house intellectuals who didn't care about anything but study and discussion. We were all so different in how we approached politics, but of course for the public admin guys, they were so ambitious, but I couldn't understand their motivation, because they seemed like scum suckers to me lol. But they loved the political process and believed in the system or in their ability to manipulate it.
The short of it is, if your motivation for doing politics is doing good, its not really the most straightforward path, if its because you love the political system, the thrill of it and you think you can make an influence, go for it.
But, I'd rather make a couple of billion dollars and use it to create my own charitable organizations that help people the way I'd like to with immediate effect and purpose. I'm not saying I would do a better job, but at least I could immediately act on my decision in how I wanted to help rather than wait for sign off etc.
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On March 03 2011 10:52 FakePlasticLove wrote:
Is military service a waste of 2 years, especially to your education and youth?
Difficult question for me, when I was born in Montreal, my father was still a citizen of Korea, but he never wrote my name on the family Korean national registry. But when I came to Korean in 2002, they gov't wouldn't issue me an overseas Korean visa, only a student one or else I would have to go to the army. The reason why it wasn't automatic was because my father hadn't bother to report me back to the Korean gov't when I was born, if he had, well I would have been shipped.
But I did go in and inquire, I can't say applied, but I went to the university army office and asked and they told me, the office told me, 'listen, at your age, its better not to pursue this, if you want to do good for the country continue to study and contribute to its economic health'
I have a number of friends who have gone, while holding Canadian citizenship, and the two years went by quickly and I have a few friends who did not go and are virtually exiled from Korea, only coming in 6 months of the year or so.
But military service is a primary reason why Korea was able to industrialize so quickly as men learned to follow process and orders, so its not a bad thing for the country, plus we do have the NK threat (although it will be the regular army and the US air craft carriers who will do the major work).
But as an individual and a young man, 2 years seems like a hellva long time, but when you get older you realize that 2 years is really nothing, but for most Koreans I can't see them spending their time in a better way and I can't see it as a negative over all. I will send both by sons to the army, the only thing I feel uneasy about is that the Korean army is hit and miss in terms of safety. Many army suicides are actually military accidents and covered up as such so there wouldn't be a liability issue; now this isn't common, but its a risk. Also it depends where you are stationed, my father who served for 4.5 years was an army lawyer while my best friend was in the army band playing tuba, but my rugby juniors were all in the marines.
While it is constantly getting shorter the time span for service, its still there, and I don't think it is a waste because most Korean men at a young age have no idea what they are doing and its a good skill set to learn and in Korea, the army service is considered real job experience and will automatically be added to your career experience consideration (some stupid women complain about this, but whatever). so short answer, even with the choice to go or not, I think it is well worth the experience as I won't block my sons from going to the army and I myself as a rugby player have lived a regular physical routine lifestyle anyways. But if you think about it, it will make you nuts, just get it over with as soon as you can is what I'd recommend.
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Sorry if i'm wrong in my assumptions, but based on what i've read of you (and i'd want to read more if your old blogs were still up T_T) you seem to have traveled quite a bit. One of the things I am always interested in hearing from people who have done this are their opinions on different food around the world.
So if I am correct in my assumptions please share your opinions about food around the world and what foods you like, with perhaps, for my interest, your opinion on Western food and also your opinion on other food from around southeast Asia (China, Vietnam, Japan, etc.).
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Atom-hyung I want to learn Korean. How should I start? How long will it take me if I am dedicated? I live in California and I am relatively good at learning Indo-European languages, but I have never learned anything else other than how to count to 10 in Japanese.
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On March 03 2011 17:21 Renoir_scII wrote:
Sorry if i'm wrong in my assumptions, but based on what i've read of you (and i'd want to read more if your old blogs were still up T_T) you seem to have traveled quite a bit. One of the things I am always interested in hearing from people who have done this are their opinions on different food around the world.
So if I am correct in my assumptions please share your opinions about food around the world and what foods you like, with perhaps, for my interest, your opinion on Western food and also your opinion on other food from around southeast Asia (China, Vietnam, Japan, etc.).
I think when it comes to food, its about one's personal adventureness. I only travel for business, if it were up to me, I'd just stay home and eat Korean food all the time, but I love a good steak.
I think for all types of food, you need a local to show you around and then it depends are you more focused on meats or vegetables; I find that besides the signature dish of each country, that is what really dictates what your host will give to you.
Personally, I'm not very adventurous and for me a better question would be where is the best hotel buffet in each country. But if there is a Morton's steak house, I'll usually eat there over anything else, regardless of the country.
Just got back to Korea from a HK/Macau trip and i'll say that I do love Macanese food, a fusion of Chinese and Portuguese; but again, if you travel for fun, I'm sure you get exposed a lot more to the local foods. Sorry, just not an expert in this case as I'm usually drinking more than eating when it comes to business meetings.
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On March 03 2011 17:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Atom-hyung I want to learn Korean. How should I start? How long will it take me if I am dedicated? I live in California and I am relatively good at learning Indo-European languages, but I have never learned anything else other than how to count to 10 in Japanese.
This is a kinda embarrassing question for me, because I've never learned Korean formally, that is, in a school. While I fully understand conversational level Korean and have no problem getting around, eating, shopping, etc, ask me to write a letter to someone and I'll fail pretty hardcore. The problem with me is that I was born and raised speaking Korean until about kindergarten, then spoke French and English until high school. Also being in Korea, I have some extremely high level business vocabulary, but certain basic grammar structures are still stuck at a 4 year olds level. So I did get a private tutor for 2 weeks and they told me that in my case, it was a pain to learn Korean, because I never had any formal exposure, even the most easiest lesson plans are difficult because I don't know very basic things, while other higher level lesson plans make perfect sense because of my exposure.
But since you're not a Korean America, I assume, this is what I'd recommend.
Just go through the lesson plans and take it as any language course, the biggest issue here is that you won't be able to draw on your experiences from other languages. So this will make it seem extremely harder, but its not.
The written text, you'll be able to pick up in about 2 hours, and then you need to memorize all the combination of characters, you don't need to, but sounding out the characters all the time will be a pain in the ass.
Get a couple of Korean dramas of high powered executives (no gangster dramas or high school dramas) with sub titles and try to repeat after them if you don't have anyone who is native really around to show you. I'd recommend 'Non-Stop' if you can find, it, its quite old sitcom about university students, but I personally loved the show.
How long will it take you, if you study about 30 mins every day, I'd say 3 months you could get by with the basics; if you are serious about learning intensively, then you'd want to come here and take the Korean language course at Yonsei university. I send my younger brother there when he came over last year and now is going to marry a nice Korean girl and take her back to America with her lol. But its a very very good program. I'd take it if I wasn't traveling all the time. While there are other program's Yonsei's is the best without any doubt. But Sogang's and Ewa Women's university ones are good as well.
Personally for me, I'm just going to read through a grammar book for an hour a day and just to correct my minor errors, I have a couple of months to brush up before this project begins. But take things step by step, there is no language that you can suddenly pick up and Korean is no exception.
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Why do Korean girls tolerate Korean males behaviour towards them ?
(dont bring up the nice guy at home crap they all serve, Korean men are essentially rude to women)
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On March 04 2011 22:54 Boonbag wrote:
Why do Korean girls tolerate Korean males behaviour towards them ?
(dont bring up the nice guy at home crap they all serve, Korean men are essentially rude to women)
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edit: fucking insane
edit2: next man to be rich will be the one to make louis vuitton condoms
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On March 04 2011 22:54 Boonbag wrote:
Why do Korean girls tolerate Korean males behaviour towards them ?
(dont bring up the nice guy at home crap they all serve, Korean men are essentially rude to women)
lol, anyway,
nowadays Korean women who don't tolerate literally leave the country to settle outside, whether it is living as a visa student or marrying a foreigner. The number #1 choice is a rich guy from Hong Kong who treats them like goddesses.
This really depends on the class level of the families. Naturally the man holds a dominate position over the women, but for the lower class males it used to dominate the woman, but for the higher class man it is for protecting and providing for the family.
It's the same with all cultures where the lower the socio-economic standing, the higher the rate of domestic abuse, etc, but in Korea is worse because the man is already placed into a dominate position over the woman.
To say a woman is a virtual slave in the home is wrong as well. In many families, it is the woman that handles the household finances as they are in charge of paying for the primary expense which is the budgeting for the children's expenses. So in many respects, the man is under constant pressure to meet the financial demands of his wife.
The problem with foreigners coming to Korea is that they are usually only exposed to one socio-economic group or area because they are not working in an actual Korean company or have not graduated from a school. Thus, their friends will all be from a certain area or where they go for entertainment. If all you did was hang out in Gangnam with rich guys, then you'd think that every single Korean man is a cheater. If you came to Seoul and joined a church in Myongdong, then you'd think that all Korean men are virgins. And if you did hang out with women, as a foreigner, they would bombard you with a disproportionate amount of stories how crappy Korean men are, because that is the one of the reasons why they are hanging out with you, to get away from them.
Now I'm not going to defend, us as Korean men, saying that we treat our women with equality or that we don't impose our will on women. We do. But the degree of how we do it differs greatly from the lower to the higher class; as in to dominate or to protect/provide, because in our cultural structure, the man must be given the initial right to simply make the decision.
But to get to the point why Korean women tolerate this system is, for some women its a great life. Korea is one of the few places in the world where there wasn't a feminist movement. Korea women were just given the vote, they didn't' have to fight for it. Korean women have never mass demonstrated to join in the conscription for the Army. Korean women expect that the men will pay for everything, will provide for them.
Even the Korean women who date foreigners, they don't realize that they have the same expectations of every Korean women, but simply don't like the structure. In many respects, the foreign white guy gets the worst of both worlds (although, compared to many white women, the rebelling Korean woman likely serves her man a lot better).
So its a good question, why do Korean women tolerate it? Ultimately, its because men make them tolerate it. We wouldn't accept our women to be conscripted into the army, to be in harms way; a man will be lazy at home every day, but when he needs to drive for 10 hours straight and work 3 days straight to provide money on the table for his family, he will. The wife will cook every day, but the man will carry the groceries as far as it is necessary not allowing the woman to even carry one bag. When the woman says, this is necessary for the family; the man will provide, and if they don't they will live with the shame and the nagging and the complaining for the wives every single day until they do so. Every Korean man, if they could make enough money, would want their wives to stay at home and relax and be the best mother they could be and it's not because they don't want their wives to have a career, rather, its a luxury nowadays. Most young couples expect the wives to have job because of the high costs of living nowadays, to live in a good area of Seoul and be a young housewife is to be the envy of your friends.
Now, I've met a lot of western women and Korean American/Canadian women, who will automatically attack me for being a Korean man, and I won't deny that we are dominate, but for some of us, we are dominate with purpose.
Once a few of years ago I was with the head of a UK public relations agency and she was all about the equality. We spent a week together, where I paid the bills, protected her from horny drunk guys at the dance clubs and made sure she got to hotel room without any issues. Just being a gentleman, nothing special there, but more than a gentleman, she knew that I wasn't there to tell her what to do, but I was there to protect and take care of her, whether she wanted it or not. And she fought me paying for the bill, she tried to be fearless when a bunch of guys were constantly trying to approach her and she tried to keep her composure always when drinking. But in the end, she stop fight with me about the bill, she'd dance closer to me and let herself get as drunk as she wanted around me. I don't thing I'm atypical from the background I have as all my hyungs would do the same. The last thing she said to me as she went back to UK was that in the UK, you got guys who are like bulldogs, they are the most chauvinistic bastards out there, slugging back beers at the pub, vulgar as hell, but they will protect their women and would never hit a woman, no matter how wrong a woman was. She gave me a kiss on the cheek and say that I was her 'Korean Bulldog' and I said baby,'I'm no bulldog, I'm just a man'
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On March 04 2011 23:12 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 22:54 Boonbag wrote:
Why do Korean girls tolerate Korean males behaviour towards them ?
(dont bring up the nice guy at home crap they all serve, Korean men are essentially rude to women)
lol +1
best answer
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I don't actually have a question, I just wanted to say that I found your answersnto these questions very enlightening and entertaining and to thank you for spreading your knowledge around, lol.
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Dave Hyung,
I was reading this thread an I wanted to ask,do most Koreans really react to things in such a way,I mean some harshly worded stuff was written there.
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On March 06 2011 15:30 DystopiaX wrote:
I don't actually have a question, I just wanted to say that I found your answersnto these questions very enlightening and entertaining and to thank you for spreading your knowledge around, lol.
^^ keke
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On March 06 2011 17:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:Dave Hyung, I was reading this thread an I wanted to ask,do most Koreans really react to things in such a way,I mean some harshly worded stuff was written there.
When there is a feeling of injustice and its completely the other parties fault, then Koreans can get pretty out of control, especially the lesser educated ones. But even the educated ones in the class of 'netizens' can be really really really nutty and out of control.
Because of this, Korean's need a strict system of discipline or else there would be chaos; its like when a girl is rude on the subway and its filmed, netizens will find out everything about her and post it up it up on the web, school, ss number, pictures etc and will flame her nonstop until litterally, and I mean litterally the entire country knows about it cause it makes the news. If this was real life, these guys would get a slap in the head from their hyung, but online, its a free for all.
There is this really really crazy case of Tablo who was accused of lying, although he wasn't, he proved otherwise, but these crazy netizens kept on going until one group was arrested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablo#Debates_over_the_academic_background_of_Tablo
you can read the basics there, but if you dig into it, its pretty nuts, so yes, there exists this part of our society which is really really chaotic, irrational and extreme, but normally we beat the shit out of these kinds of people in real life, so they don't cause this kind of stupid crap, but it happens all the time on the net.
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Hehe, this will be my third question MightyAtom-hyung, so I hope i'm not asking to many.
Often when I go out drinking I get told that "this girl was really into me" or "this girl gave me the most intense stare from across the room" and I don't seem to notice these things 90% of the time. How do I become more socially aware so I can pick up on these kind of signals even while drunk?
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On March 07 2011 04:55 krndandaman wrote:
hey big brother of TL,
any advice on getting with a devout korean christian girl?
you know... the one who's never had a boyfriend. never really cared for one. 99/4.0 GPA throughout highschool. QT's every morning. prays for up to hours. the poster child of korean parents as she is a devout christian, excellent student, and beautiful looks. (she's also never disobeyed her parents)
I thought I was hitting off with her very well in the past but lately she's been very... chic/cool? towards me. any idea of what's going on?
she considers me the closest guy to her and i'm the only guy in the school to have her number.
i've known her for 3 months now. i had felt good vibes before, not really so much now.
any advice?
and yes i have a general idea of what i'm getting myself into lol
LMAO
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Dear MightyAtom-Hyung,
1. How did you get your TL name?
2. A friend made a promise to go out with me today, but she forgot and when I asked her what was going on, she told me that "her grandpa's birthday was today" . Im a bit disappointed and mad, but what is the correct way to get through this? Just forgive and forget?
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On March 07 2011 04:55 krndandaman wrote:
hey big brother of TL,
any advice on getting with a devout korean christian girl?
you know... the one who's never had a boyfriend. never really cared for one. 99/4.0 GPA throughout highschool. QT's every morning. prays for up to hours. the poster child of korean parents as she is a devout christian, excellent student, and beautiful looks. (she's also never disobeyed her parents)
I thought I was hitting off with her very well in the past but lately she's been very... chic/cool? towards me. any idea of what's going on?
she considers me the closest guy to her and i'm the only guy in the school to have her number.
i've known her for 3 months now. i had felt good vibes before, not really so much now.
any advice?
and yes i have a general idea of what i'm getting myself into lol
Don't go down this path unless you are going to go to QT with her every morning; if you want to do that, and be ready to get married to her, BUT THEN WAIT UNTIL GOD SAYS SO, then do so, but she will expect you to be the shining example of Christ and if you don't she may turn on your and be overly judgemental.
She doesn't want a boy friends, she wants the guy that God has prepared for her, so you must always initiate prayer first. But if you take her virginity and don't marry her, you will go to hell. ^^
But probably the main reason why she is being cool/chic with you is that she has identified you now as a possible 'temptation' likely because she does like being with you and is trying to protect herself. Instead ask about bible verses and ask to go to qt with her and do spontaneous prayer sessions with her when you feel like it, and most of all if you ever do start kissing, then make sure you pray that God will keep you both pure etc. This will be sure to melt her heart etc. and I'm really not kidding. Do be solution, not the temptation and you'll do fine.
OR find a reasonable girl and enjoy your youth and marry a girl 4-5 years younger. ^^
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On March 07 2011 07:04 Renoir_scII wrote:
Hehe, this will be my third question MightyAtom-hyung, so I hope i'm not asking to many.
Often when I go out drinking I get told that "this girl was really into me" or "this girl gave me the most intense stare from across the room" and I don't seem to notice these things 90% of the time. How do I become more socially aware so I can pick up on these kind of signals even while drunk?
As many questions as you like, ^^
its about initial mind set, if you go out to pick up, you likely won't, but if you go out to get drunk and have a good time, you're actually like to solicit a response, so in this case, all men, don't have an eye for it. That is why you need your friends to say, 'yo man, she likes you' and for the to push you into them or help you out. But sadly many men will either be drunk with you or make a move for themselves.
But I can tell you are a man with good character because men should have fun with just the company of men, (I never trust a man who says they have lots of close friends that are girls, NEVER).
Mmm...honestly, I have no answer for you, other than, if she really really is hot, you'd notice her out of your drunken haze or I'd tell your friends to inform you as soon as it happens rather than after the fact.
The nunchi ability of Koreans goes out the window when drinking with friends (thus many tension issues get brought up), but the nunchi ability is tested in business situation to focus while getting progressively drunker.
So, don't worry about, if she was really hot, you'd notice that 10% and if she's not, its your beer goggles on anyway ^^
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On March 07 2011 10:39 Kouda wrote:
Dear MightyAtom-Hyung,
1. How did you get your TL name?
2. A friend made a promise to go out with me today, but she forgot and when I asked her what was going on, she told me that "her grandpa's birthday was today" . Im a bit disappointed and mad, but what is the correct way to get through this? Just forgive and forget?
I grew up watching MightAtom/AstroBoy, so I always felt I was like him or admired him as a child. Very clean cut and powerful, but full of justice and compassion, in a unassuming package and always fearless to do whatever it takes, even sacrifice.
Depends, if you are a girl, as well, then ladies need to less dramatic in general, but since I assume you're a guy there are some underlying issues here.
If she is really just your friend, then you wouldn't have such a strong response, and the fact that it is a promise and she forgot, shows that your both on two different wavelengths here.
1. dont' forgive and forget, be a man and tell her, 'no worries girl, have fun at your grandpa's birthday,' and just wish her well and off on her bike she goes. This is way beneath you to even take it the point of thinking in terms of 'forgive and forget' after all its her grandpa's birthday, so you need to man up and brush it off in front of her.
2. BUT the real issue here, is the promise and she forgot, that is the real issue here. I'm gonna give it to you straight, but take it like the man that you are. Fuck her. If she can't even remember a the appointment with you and see what it means to you, that it was a 'promise' between close friends, then she ain't your close friend, regardless of the reason. Also, she should invite you to the her grandpa's party or do something afterwards instead to make it up to you, but this leads us to the next point.
3. As a man, you're prime motive to have a friend that is a girl, is to get with her. Its unacceptable to have any other reason, other than she has hot friends or you've already tried the lover part and it just didn't match up, OR very rarely if she really is such a great person that she really is like a saint. Otherwise, you need to be honest why you're making promises to hang out with a girl that is your friend.
Say it, you like her more than a friend, you want to spend time with her and forget about this Friend zone crap for a moment, just be honest. And if that is the case, do you really want to spend time with someone like her who doesn't give a second thought about you? It doesn't make you less in anyway, she might just be dumb or clueless in general as a friend; now do you really want to take this farther with her in any case?
If you really really just want to be her friend or can accept that, then these kinds of things should never bother you as a man, so what, she had another appointment, we made a promise, but whatever, it ain't like you can't rebook. But if you going for something more, just forget about her, no matter how much you think you've invested, because if she can forget you that easily, then she ain't worth any more of your attention; and when that attention is gone, if she notices, then she does, if she doesn't well fuck it, CAUSE a man don't need friends that are girls, he need men to be his friends and women to be his lovers and wife. And you need a woman who will give you the attention first, not vice versa. And no one give me crap about getting to know what women what, women want men, we are built to love them and vice versa (although I don't rule out true love between people of any race or gender, not a disclaimer, but truly).
Things like this take time, but trust me, as every man loses their virginity and gets their first kiss, so will the many fish in the sea pass right in front of you, but don't waste time on her, don't get mad, don't forgive and forget, she ain't even worth that. This is nothing, she just another somebody she can't even bother to be friend let alone a possible lover.
^^ so be honest and let it be what it is.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 07 2011 12:10 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 10:39 Kouda wrote:
Dear MightyAtom-Hyung,
1. How did you get your TL name?
2. A friend made a promise to go out with me today, but she forgot and when I asked her what was going on, she told me that "her grandpa's birthday was today" . Im a bit disappointed and mad, but what is the correct way to get through this? Just forgive and forget? I grew up watching MightAtom/AstroBoy, so I always felt I was like him or admired him as a child. Very clean cut and powerful, but full of justice and compassion, in a unassuming package and always fearless to do whatever it takes, even sacrifice. Depends, if you are a girl, as well, then ladies need to less dramatic in general, but since I assume you're a guy there are some underlying issues here. If she is really just your friend, then you wouldn't have such a strong response, and the fact that it is a promise and she forgot, shows that your both on two different wavelengths here. 1. dont' forgive and forget, be a man and tell her, 'no worries girl, have fun at your grandpa's birthday,' and just wish her well and off on her bike she goes. This is way beneath you to even take it the point of thinking in terms of 'forgive and forget' after all its her grandpa's birthday, so you need to man up and brush it off in front of her. 2. BUT the real issue here, is the promise and she forgot, that is the real issue here. I'm gonna give it to you straight, but take it like the man that you are. Fuck her. If she can't even remember a the appointment with you and see what it means to you, that it was a 'promise' between close friends, then she ain't your close friend, regardless of the reason. Also, she should invite you to the her grandpa's party or do something afterwards instead to make it up to you, but this leads us to the next point. 3. As a man, you're prime motive to have a friend that is a girl, is to get with her. Its unacceptable to have any other reason, other than she has hot friends or you've already tried the lover part and it just didn't match up, OR very rarely if she really is such a great person that she really is like a saint. Otherwise, you need to be honest why you're making promises to hang out with a girl that is your friend. Say it, you like her more than a friend, you want to spend time with her and forget about this Friend zone crap for a moment, just be honest. And if that is the case, do you really want to spend time with someone like her who doesn't give a second thought about you? It doesn't make you less in anyway, she might just be dumb or clueless in general as a friend; now do you really want to take this farther with her in any case? If you really really just want to be her friend or can accept that, then these kinds of things should never bother you as a man, so what, she had another appointment, we made a promise, but whatever, it ain't like you can't rebook. But if you going for something more, just forget about her, no matter how much you think you've invested, because if she can forget you that easily, then she ain't worth any more of your attention; and when that attention is gone, if she notices, then she does, if she doesn't well fuck it, CAUSE a man don't need friends that are girls, he need men to be his friends and women to be his lovers and wife. And you need a woman who will give you the attention first, not vice versa. And no one give me crap about getting to know what women what, women want men, we are built to love them and vice versa (although I don't rule out true love between people of any race or gender, not a disclaimer, but truly). Things like this take time, but trust me, as every man loses their virginity and gets their first kiss, so will the many fish in the sea pass right in front of you, but don't waste time on her, don't get mad, don't forgive and forget, she ain't even worth that. This is nothing, she just another somebody she can't even bother to be friend let alone a possible lover. ^^ so be honest and let it be what it is.
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Dave hyung,
I was with my girlfriend for a little over a year. We broke around a month ago. We dated throughout high school but in college, we're at opposite sides of the country. We were on and off the past semester but when we saw each other during winter break, we promised each other we'd make it work. I was genuinely happy with her and I could see that she was happy too.
A month later of long distance, she tells me that she just thinks of me as a friend because we can't be "together". She says that she doesn't feel the same because I'm just a computer screen or text. I was crushed. Here I was, I had given everything to this girl and she was ready to give it all up.
It's been a month since we broke up and I didn't really think about her too much. I kept myself busy and I lived my life. I found so much opportunity because I put myself in front of everything else in my life. But recently, we talked and I realized how much I missed her. I'm still in love with her and I felt like my growth apart from her has been artificial. And she just makes it seem that she's totally over me because she's done the same and consumed her life with work. It's really sad, I thought we really had something special. What should I do? I love talking to her but I talk to her as a significant other while she talks to me as her best friend? Any advice in general?
Thanks
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Excellent blog hyung ^_^
My question: How much Korean does a foreigner need to be able to speak in order to have a relationship with a woman in Korea? As far as I understand they take english classes in school, so will they be able to speak enough english to have a relationship, or would some sort of "I'll speak korean half the time and you speak english half the time" deal be best?
Also, you make it sound like Korean women are amazing in the bed room and I was wondering if you could touch on that a bit more. What exactly makes them so good?
:3
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Hyung,
My question is this: A few years back when I was in college, I had plastic surgery done, a double eyelid operation. People said it would look nice, so I did it. (I'm a guy btw). At that time I felt it looked nice, but now I partially regret it because it seemed not very "manly" to have done so. So now I feel a little shy to tell new friends or girls I date about it. Any advice?
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no questions, alcohol is poison though it kills brain cells
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Hyung,
How does one get over the feeling of inferiority?
I often feel inadequate when I compare myself to other people my age (I'm 21). I work as a co-op at CGI (an IT consulting firm) as a Business Analyst which isn't too bad as some people would tell me, but when I look at people who work at banks, i-banks and consulting firms, I feel like why I only got this far in life when others are already 5 steps ahead. I have average studying habits I would say...about a B- cumulative average... How much harder do I need to work to achieve "greatness"? I don't know if I can sacrifice any more to go up a couple grade points. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just not talented enough for the good life...
This applies not just to work but also to my hobbies and girls. I always feel as though I won't be liked because I'm lacking things as a man that would make me attractive - working at a good firm and making money, having a car, dressing well enough.
A year ago, I had been out on a couple dates with this girl who was an Actuarial Analyst co-op when I was just working for the school. We hit it off pretty well but the more I thought about my job compared to hers I felt I wasn't good enough -- I guess I had too much pride and eventually I distanced myself away from her.
I guess I'm starting to achieve those things (career/money) slowly but as I reach these "milestones" I realize I'm still missing so much stuff (ie. When I got my job at CGI I was maybe happy for 5 seconds...then I realize someone my age or younger is already at Manulife or Deutsche bank making more than I am). I'm unconfident and I feel like I'm never satisfied.
Sorry for the long write up. I think I just need someone to slap some sense into me.
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On March 07 2011 12:31 asianskill wrote:
Dave hyung,
I was with my girlfriend for a little over a year. We broke around a month ago. We dated throughout high school but in college, we're at opposite sides of the country. We were on and off the past semester but when we saw each other during winter break, we promised each other we'd make it work. I was genuinely happy with her and I could see that she was happy too.
A month later of long distance, she tells me that she just thinks of me as a friend because we can't be "together". She says that she doesn't feel the same because I'm just a computer screen or text. I was crushed. Here I was, I had given everything to this girl and she was ready to give it all up.
It's been a month since we broke up and I didn't really think about her too much. I kept myself busy and I lived my life. I found so much opportunity because I put myself in front of everything else in my life. But recently, we talked and I realized how much I missed her. I'm still in love with her and I felt like my growth apart from her has been artificial. And she just makes it seem that she's totally over me because she's done the same and consumed her life with work. It's really sad, I thought we really had something special. What should I do? I love talking to her but I talk to her as a significant other while she talks to me as her best friend? Any advice in general?
Thanks
I think she is being the more practical of you two. It's clear that you love her, and maybe she does love you as well, but she wants to move on and maybe she already has.
When you're both really in love, after a break up, it takes time to get over things, but the fact is, I think she has her priorities straight and has already forced herself to move on.
1. Women don't know what they want, so they change their minds and its easy to change your mind when maybe there are lots of guys to flirt with and lots of opportunity in sight. I'm not saying she is a bad girl or has cheated on you, but you're both young and she may think, what's the point. And she can think that way because...she ain't your soul mate. If she was, then she'd appreciate what you guys have. I tell you when I was in university, EMAIL JUST STARTED, and that was just in university, and long distant call prices in the country were like a dollar a minute. I'd have a 200 dollar phone bill every month and yes, I am probably the last generation to write letters. For her to say, 'its just text', omg, skype, video, so what, you guys can talk to each other every day,unless you were living together before, she is just giving an excuse. Long distance is bearable...if she really wants it.
2. Of course you're gonna miss her. Its clear you love her. But, you gotta let go and start living your young life around you. Go dating, stop thinking about what was, you're probably not going to get married in the next 4 years or so, go meet someone who would die for you instead of some girl like this. Of course, there will be things you miss about her and still have feelings for her, it ain't like she was a stranger, you loved this girl for many reasons. But, she ain't that same girl you thought she was. And that is the clearest thing I can tell you. If she was the girl you thought she was, you'd think if you both agreed to make it work she'd at least really try. But she isn't. So do you really know this girl?
3. I'm going to give the the 123 here because the fact is, this is an emotional period and she was special to you, maybe in the moment you were to her, but that time has gone, its over.
ONE: Don't call her anymore, friend or no friend, you're not living for her, so why make it harder for yourself. She wants to be your friend, you wanna be her lover, this sucks for you, why suffer in trying to be her friends, that is thoughtless on her part and if she can't see that, well I don't blame her, she's just young.
TWO: If she does contact you, just say you're busy and say, lets talk later, but don't give a time and hang up. You need to give up any hope of this working out, if she really wants it to work out, she'll fly out there and say she's sorry. Yes, it can be that dramatic if there was something really special there, otherwise, you're making it too easy for her to fuck you up again.
THREE: Do it Korean style, go out with a good friend and drink and keep drinking:, cry it out, hug it out, scream yell, I love you bitch, I thought you were the one etc, just this one time, and drink until you are able to fully express what you need to. Westerns think being a man is just ignoring your feelings; fuck that, you loved her, its over, if you didn't feel anything or longing, then you really didn't. But you did, its a fact, so go out there and give it one last cry and leave with your puke in the washroom. Just say what you need to say and leave it at that.
Once, I went out with this very beautiful girl who was TV announcer and I think she just felt I wasn't good enough to marry her because I wasn't a good enough Christian. Well, at the moment in my life, I had for some reason made up my mind I should get married and she was the one for me, I guess, it was because she was very much the ideal girl my mother would like. So anyways, it was over and I was upset and so me, Rek, one my close friends, and an idiot, 4 of us, went out to drink and we drank and drank. And I was laughing and just sad and happy here and there, but just letting things out of my system and this guy comes in with a guitar and starts to sing a song and asks for money. So I say, here is 20 bucks, give me your guitar. So drunk as fuck I take the guitar, start playing it and singing (in English) and everyone in the drinking place, well they appreciate it. And Rek says to me, damn that waitress was really digging you that entire time (and the waitress was not bad looking as well) and then I just felt mentally free and that was the end of that.
You're not being a pussy, just a man in love. But its a man that can also just move on. Plus, its definitely for the best, whether it feels like that now or not.
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Just thought of a question. You've talked a lot about how Koreans put a lot of emphasis into what university you go to/how much education you've had. How do they view "self-made" people, that is, people who haven't necessarily had a lot of education but end up being rich/successful anyway?
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On March 07 2011 13:11 R A V wrote:
Excellent blog hyung ^_^
My question: How much Korean does a foreigner need to be able to speak in order to have a relationship with a woman in Korea? As far as I understand they take english classes in school, so will they be able to speak enough english to have a relationship, or would some sort of "I'll speak korean half the time and you speak english half the time" deal be best?
Also, you make it sound like Korean women are amazing in the bed room and I was wondering if you could touch on that a bit more. What exactly makes them so good?
:3
Depends, like 10 years ago, if you couldn't speak Korean, you'd be generally fucked, but nowadays, even I'm amazed by how many women speak English in the night clubs.
That being said, only the ones that can speak a bit of English will approach you, but generally if her English sucks, you will have to learn Korean if her English is ok, generally she will improve her English. But, to know absolutely no Korean is really hit and miss cause then you really need to meet someone who is quite comfortable in English and its not that common.
Korean women are naturally gifted in the bedroom, regardless of experience because they are physically passionate women who will do anything with the man the love or if they are the kind of woman who loves random sex, even they will embrace that aspect as well.
Also since they have hot bodies, well, of course its great. But I'd say, you can't peg women in Korea as pure or not, because there is such a range of women, some really beautiful and virgins even in the late 20's who save it for marriage and those who have had sex from 16 and enjoy a daily night life every day of the week. But, they don't generally have any sexual hang ups as long as its normal sex, if you do kinky things, they will think you are a pervert. But having sex all day multiple times, ok!
I can't get into any more because I'm married and this is a public forum, but needless to say, these are generalizations, but I've found them to be true ^ ^
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On March 07 2011 15:26 targ wrote:
Hyung,
My question is this: A few years back when I was in college, I had plastic surgery done, a double eyelid operation. People said it would look nice, so I did it. (I'm a guy btw). At that time I felt it looked nice, but now I partially regret it because it seemed not very "manly" to have done so. So now I feel a little shy to tell new friends or girls I date about it. Any advice?
Don't tell new friends or girls, you did it, and that was your decision;
not many men do it, but they have their reasons to,
but its not something that makes you less of man to have done,
so don't make a big deal of it, it you now so just be you.
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On March 07 2011 15:38 qdenser wrote:
no questions, alcohol is poison though it kills brain cells
Man will be man and drink responsibility but will not be scared to live life.
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On March 08 2011 02:21 zeks wrote:
Hyung,
How does one get over the feeling of inferiority?
I often feel inadequate when I compare myself to other people my age (I'm 21). I work as a co-op at CGI (an IT consulting firm) as a Business Analyst which isn't too bad as some people would tell me, but when I look at people who work at banks, i-banks and consulting firms, I feel like why I only got this far in life when others are already 5 steps ahead. I have average studying habits I would say...about a B- cumulative average... How much harder do I need to work to achieve "greatness"? I don't know if I can sacrifice any more to go up a couple grade points. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just not talented enough for the good life...
This applies not just to work but also to my hobbies and girls. I always feel as though I won't be liked because I'm lacking things as a man that would make me attractive - working at a good firm and making money, having a car, dressing well enough.
A year ago, I had been out on a couple dates with this girl who was an Actuarial Analyst co-op when I was just working for the school. We hit it off pretty well but the more I thought about my job compared to hers I felt I wasn't good enough -- I guess I had too much pride and eventually I distanced myself away from her.
I guess I'm starting to achieve those things (career/money) slowly but as I reach these "milestones" I realize I'm still missing so much stuff (ie. When I got my job at CGI I was maybe happy for 5 seconds...then I realize someone my age or younger is already at Manulife or Deutsche bank making more than I am). I'm unconfident and I feel like I'm never satisfied.
Sorry for the long write up. I think I just need someone to slap some sense into me.
#1 you're still young and its good you have a feeling like something is amiss
#2 make up your mind that you want to achieve more, its not like they are smarter than you for getting in Deutsche bank or whatever, but they did work harder maybe.
#3 get focus on a clear goal you want to achieve, just saying I want to be more successful, then that is fucking useless. Say you want to be the best in your division, in your rank, to get promoted by so and so time, Who cares what company you're at, what if you're the head of your division in 2 years?
#4 There are no short cuts to greatness, it is a very deliberate step by step process. Decide to take those steps, no matter how small and painful or frustrating, don't compare yourself by defining yourself by your current position, but define yourself by your AMBITION.
You're not a man without Ambition, but you don't become a man without the ability to do work as hard it needs to be achieve or strive for that ambition.
I went back to Macau this past weekend and I'm not as overtly powerful as I use to be because I'm doing my own thing, but even though I've taken a step back from my short term position, its because my ambition. Nobody fucks with me thinking because I don't have an expense account anymore or that some salary men have more money in their pocket now, that somehow I'm lesser. No, I'm defined by my work ethic and ambition and no one can take that away from me.
These are two factors which are not influenced by your background, your network your education etc, so don' t make any excuses, find your ambition and man up and get to work.
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On March 08 2011 15:02 DystopiaX wrote:
Just thought of a question. You've talked a lot about how Koreans put a lot of emphasis into what university you go to/how much education you've had. How do they view "self-made" people, that is, people who haven't necessarily had a lot of education but end up being rich/successful anyway?
It's extremely extremely rare for that to happen in Korea. The founder of Hyundai, sold his father's cows and made his way down to South Korea (from the northern east area of Korea), and started a mechanic's shop etc, but this was entirely different time in Korea's history; maybe being a self made man was possible up to the mid-80's, but you need to know that just because a family wasn't university educated and wasn't that wealthy didn't mean that they didn't come from a good scholarly background.
In Korea we have a term for start-ups 'Venture companies', we don't generally use the word entrepreneur, but if you work for a venture company in Korea, its generally a negative connotation that you couldn't get into a better company when you first graduated. We more use the understanding of 'Salary man' or 'Owners' But its extremely rare for a salary man, no matter how successful, even as a CEO cross over to the owners side.
There are 2 very famous venture companies that went big in Korea, NHN (Naver.com) and NCSoft (linage), but again, they were really really something of a miracle and it was because it was new sector of internet, but for traditional industries, extremely difficult.
Also, once you become wealthy, you're not going to flaunt your humble beginnings because we don't have this 'proud to be working class' identity here.
Again, the system in Korea is that extreme. There is a saying here in South Korea, if you don't graduate from high school, you're not even human. And even if you do graduate from a university that isn't prestigious at all, well getting into Samsung after graduation is like getting into Harvard. So unless you are some tech geek and talented, people wouldn't even associate with you and likely you wouldn't know the proper cultural protocol to do business without offending everyone as well.
All success stories in Korea revolve around being poor, but working hard and getting into Seoul National University etc, they involve some educational pathway, and I can't think of even one example which as someone non educated making it successful after the 90s.
A harsh reality of South Korea.
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Why is Plexa being such a weirdo and leaving suddenly? Hyung, please talk some sense into him! WE NEED HIM.
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On March 08 2011 19:21 SushilS wrote:Why is Plexa being such a weirdo and leaving suddenly? Hyung, please talk some sense into him! WE NEED HIM.
Mans gotta do what a mans got to do, unless its a woman, then the hell if I know what they are doing.
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On March 09 2011 00:53 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 19:21 SushilS wrote:Why is Plexa being such a weirdo and leaving suddenly? Hyung, please talk some sense into him! WE NEED HIM. Mans gotta do what a mans got to do, unless its a woman, then the hell if I know what they are doing.
so whats with a man that once was a woman? or vice versa for that matter? :D
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When you were working your ass off to build a new company, did you ever doubt yourself before the results came in?
I'm gunning hard in uni for an engineering degree, 4.0, working part time, looking for an internship this summer, almost not sleeping. I'm getting very emotionally drained with the lack of results; no job, doing mediocre in grades; how do I get motivated?
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Dear Hyung,
I am 25 years old and I am very lucky to have a good high paying job. I have been doing my best to invest my disposable income into things that hopefully will not depreciate in value such as a house, retirement plan, 2 business ventures, and a small amount into stocks. I am able to do all of this and still manage to save money every month.
The problem is that I want to buy a brand new BMW 335i, lets say it cost 60k. I know that I could spend the 60k on something else that will be wiser and give me better returns because I know I only need a car works. However, I feel that it's a beautiful car and you are only (age) 20 once. What do you recommend? Do you think having a fancy luxurious car has it's benefits instead of just being a money sink?
btw I think I can afford the car, 1.5k for the next 3 years. The car is 18% of my monthly take home income.
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On March 09 2011 07:42 Kutsuki wrote:
Dear Hyung,
I am 25 years old and I am very lucky to have a good high paying job. I have been doing my best to invest my disposable income into things that hopefully will not depreciate in value such as a house, retirement plan, 2 business ventures, and a small amount into stocks. I am able to do all of this and still manage to save money every month.
The problem is that I want to buy a brand new BMW 335i, lets say it cost 60k. I know that I could spend the 60k on something else that will be wiser and give me better returns because I know I only need a car works. However, I feel that it's a beautiful car and you are only (age) 20 once. What do you recommend? Do you think having a fancy luxurious car has it's benefits instead of just being a money sink?
btw I think I can afford the car, 1.5k for the next 3 years. The car is 18% of my monthly take home income.
lol, get the friggin car
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On March 09 2011 07:49 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 07:42 Kutsuki wrote:
Dear Hyung,
I am 25 years old and I am very lucky to have a good high paying job. I have been doing my best to invest my disposable income into things that hopefully will not depreciate in value such as a house, retirement plan, 2 business ventures, and a small amount into stocks. I am able to do all of this and still manage to save money every month.
The problem is that I want to buy a brand new BMW 335i, lets say it cost 60k. I know that I could spend the 60k on something else that will be wiser and give me better returns because I know I only need a car works. However, I feel that it's a beautiful car and you are only (age) 20 once. What do you recommend? Do you think having a fancy luxurious car has it's benefits instead of just being a money sink?
btw I think I can afford the car, 1.5k for the next 3 years. The car is 18% of my monthly take home income. lol, get the friggin car
agree :D why would you save up more and more money if not to use it? if you want something and you can have it, get friggin happy with it! or would you really rather want it and not get it for the next five years? That's not just going to go away.
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Agreed, get the car. While it is wise to save your money you seem to be financially responsible, and I personally think it's ok to splurge once in awhile. Just don't make it a habit.
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Hello hyung!
I was just wondering of your thoughts on this. I think this is a random girl who commited suicide after appearing on the oh-so-popular drama 'Boys over Flowers'.
Korea is reeling with shock over the news that netizens have uncovered some names from Jang Ja Yeon’s 31 offenders. The late star’s handwritten letters were revealed a few days back, and reportedly, they contained a list naming the men she was forced to ‘host’.
The alleged list reads as follows:
CEO of Chosun Journal – Bang Sang Hoon
Vice-President of Sports Chosun – Bang Myung Hoon
Chosun Central Journal’s Director of Advertising – Lee Jae Young
Chairman of Kolon – Lee Woong Ryeol
Chairman of Lotte – Shin Kyuk Ho
Former KBS PD, CEO of Olive 9 – Go Dae Hwa
Producer (PD) of KBS’s “Geumji Ok Yeob” - Jun Chang Geun
Producer (PD) for KBS, MBC, SBS – Jung Seho
Producer (PD) for KBS’s “Boys Over Flowers” – Jun Gi Sang
Broadcasting/Music PD of “Playful Kiss”, “Boys Over Flowers”, “Perfect Couple”, “Goong” – Song Byung Joon (Married actress Lee Seung Min in January of 2010)
I'm not surprised with this, just surprised that this sort of stuff finally has 'media coverage'. Could you possibly shed some more light into this 'industry'? D:
EDIT: On second thought, I wouldn't be surprised if this was all over-exaggerated by the media.
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On March 09 2011 03:33 MisterD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 00:53 MightyAtom wrote:On March 08 2011 19:21 SushilS wrote:Why is Plexa being such a weirdo and leaving suddenly? Hyung, please talk some sense into him! WE NEED HIM. Mans gotta do what a mans got to do, unless its a woman, then the hell if I know what they are doing. so whats with a man that once was a woman? or vice versa for that matter? :D
I have no idea, as long as they can live without regret,
then good for them, I applaud their courage to live that way.
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On March 09 2011 05:39 milikan wrote:
When you were working your ass off to build a new company, did you ever doubt yourself before the results came in?
I'm gunning hard in uni for an engineering degree, 4.0, working part time, looking for an internship this summer, almost not sleeping. I'm getting very emotionally drained with the lack of results; no job, doing mediocre in grades; how do I get motivated?
the results haven't come close to coming in yet, its really just been a couple of months or so since launch and I'm still in the preparation process for others.
I still have a lot of doubts, every day, I don't push them away, I look at them. Sometimes I have doubts because I'm not working hard enough, so then I work harder. Sometime I have doubts because really my strategy is a bit off or not developed enough. Now, I'm old enough to know when I need to make adjustment or if I'm just reacting blindly, so if something is making me lose sleep after working hardcore for 3 days straight, I know there is an issue, and try to fix it. Things like doubt and loss of confidence are daily struggles when doing things you're not use to or dont have a safe net for.
You need to believe in your ambition, that's it. Its what you want and just don't stop till you get there, work harder, work smarter, always keep improving yourself, do the same things that haven't worked AND do new approaches as well. A lot of times, we think we have pressed ourselves to the max, but we are limited because we have set expectations for ourselves that weren't immediately met.
What if I said to you, change you expectation to 1000 failed applications before you get the job you want before you started this process, so at this point, you'd think, well damn, I've just applied for 45 internships, I'm still no where near what Atom said. And if you got the internship job at 70 then you'd have though you accomplished something awesome. So its about your own expectations of thinking thinks will immediately work out.
If my business don't take off right away, I accept that, I have fund for 2 years to get it right, if I don't get it right in 2 years, well at that point, I'm likely to be depressed for a bit, but if I had an expectation to be rocking off on the 1st month, I'll have killed myself already. So gauge your expectations first and focus solely on your ambition, it will motivate you. Just know, that you commit yourself to your ambition, no matter how long it takes; and remember, there are other fuckers worse off than you AND they are getting these internships because they know they are 'losers' and keep on trying until it happens. Cause at your level, the difference between the losers and winners is minimal; it's more defined on your work ethic and determination.
Say it with me.
I am a Machine.
now go and get it done and don't stop until it happens, you can fail 100 times, but you are a machine you will not stop until you get what you need because you will get it.
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On March 09 2011 07:42 Kutsuki wrote:
Dear Hyung,
I am 25 years old and I am very lucky to have a good high paying job. I have been doing my best to invest my disposable income into things that hopefully will not depreciate in value such as a house, retirement plan, 2 business ventures, and a small amount into stocks. I am able to do all of this and still manage to save money every month.
The problem is that I want to buy a brand new BMW 335i, lets say it cost 60k. I know that I could spend the 60k on something else that will be wiser and give me better returns because I know I only need a car works. However, I feel that it's a beautiful car and you are only (age) 20 once. What do you recommend? Do you think having a fancy luxurious car has it's benefits instead of just being a money sink?
btw I think I can afford the car, 1.5k for the next 3 years. The car is 18% of my monthly take home income.
Now as a BMW owner myself, I have to ask you, do you want the car because you love to drive, or because its flashy?
If you want the care because you love to drive, then I say, get a 320i (I don't know if they have that model anymore) and get it as a coupe. Should be somewhat cheaper but its a great car and sexy enough and its wonderful to drive (get it tuned up at a BMW specialised shop).
Now if you want to be flashy; don't do it. Unless you are a deal maker or a senior management, lawyer where you need to get clients, save your cash and buy a 5 series instead and join the rank of real men who have made it and then maintain the hell out of the car like its your baby. I know a lot of finance guys in Asia, who kept on upgrade their living standards as their salaries when up and then it was 2008 and they were let go without any skills outside of finance and they were crying. Crying, wondering wtf they were going to do, especailly with a shit load of monthly payments which were nothing when they were making 18k a month, but where a lot with no cash flow and only 300k in savings.
Now that ain't going happen again for the next 3-5 years, I''m pretty sure of that. That being said, I don't think its particularly necessary for a 335i over a 320i for driving experience and if you really wanna be flashly (which I think is fine), get a 5 series later. But honestly, getting a BMW providing you don't into an accident and maintain it very well (and don't get some weird colour), I think its personally a good buy as you can drive it for 5 -8 years and then sell it at that point. But if you're just 2 years away from getting a 5 series and marriage, and with a 5 series you can easily have it for 8-10 years, then wait a bit, get the 5 series.
But all in all, i think you're in a great position but just think about, do you want the drive or the flash? The drive, go 320i coupe, the flash, wait and get a 5 after all, I'd think a flashy 3series are for rich university kids.
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On March 09 2011 13:23 GTR wrote:Hello hyung! I was just wondering of your thoughts on this. I think this is a random girl who commited suicide after appearing on the oh-so-popular drama 'Boys over Flowers'. Show nested quote +Korea is reeling with shock over the news that netizens have uncovered some names from Jang Ja Yeon’s 31 offenders. The late star’s handwritten letters were revealed a few days back, and reportedly, they contained a list naming the men she was forced to ‘host’.
The alleged list reads as follows:
CEO of Chosun Journal – Bang Sang Hoon
Vice-President of Sports Chosun – Bang Myung Hoon
Chosun Central Journal’s Director of Advertising – Lee Jae Young
Chairman of Kolon – Lee Woong Ryeol
Chairman of Lotte – Shin Kyuk Ho
Former KBS PD, CEO of Olive 9 – Go Dae Hwa
Producer (PD) of KBS’s “Geumji Ok Yeob” - Jun Chang Geun
Producer (PD) for KBS, MBC, SBS – Jung Seho
Producer (PD) for KBS’s “Boys Over Flowers” – Jun Gi Sang
Broadcasting/Music PD of “Playful Kiss”, “Boys Over Flowers”, “Perfect Couple”, “Goong” – Song Byung Joon (Married actress Lee Seung Min in January of 2010)
I'm not surprised with this, just surprised that this sort of stuff finally has 'media coverage'. Could you possibly shed some more light into this 'industry'? D: EDIT: On second thought, I wouldn't be surprised if this was all over-exaggerated by the media.
No,In my opinion, its all *quite plausible* and she wasn't a random girl;
if you're really talented, you can get a sponsor right away so you don't need to go through this entire process, or else, she kind of got slotted for this role in her company because it is a bit extreme; and that is likely why she committed suicide, because its likely that other actresses didn't have to endure this much,
but for her to name these names then commit suicide,
its as real as it gets.
For most Koreans outside of the upper social classes, they couldn't say if its real or not, but its like common gossip among those in the upper social wealthy classes in gangnam.
The reason why it hasn't gone further, is because she calls out EXTREMELY EXTREMELY FUCKING EXTREMELY powerful people, like the top .00001% of powerful people. But Korea, for all its crapiness, when a statement is backed by suicide, its hard thing to stop as the suicide is statement, that they accuser had no motive to gain except for justice after death.
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On March 10 2011 10:02 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 07:42 Kutsuki wrote:
Dear Hyung,
I am 25 years old and I am very lucky to have a good high paying job. I have been doing my best to invest my disposable income into things that hopefully will not depreciate in value such as a house, retirement plan, 2 business ventures, and a small amount into stocks. I am able to do all of this and still manage to save money every month.
The problem is that I want to buy a brand new BMW 335i, lets say it cost 60k. I know that I could spend the 60k on something else that will be wiser and give me better returns because I know I only need a car works. However, I feel that it's a beautiful car and you are only (age) 20 once. What do you recommend? Do you think having a fancy luxurious car has it's benefits instead of just being a money sink?
btw I think I can afford the car, 1.5k for the next 3 years. The car is 18% of my monthly take home income. Now as a BMW owner myself, I have to ask you, do you want the car because you love to drive, or because its flashy? If you want the care because you love to drive, then I say, get a 320i (I don't know if they have that model anymore) and get it as a coupe. Should be somewhat cheaper but its a great car and sexy enough and its wonderful to drive (get it tuned up at a BMW specialised shop). Now if you want to be flashy; don't do it. Unless you are a deal maker or a senior management, lawyer where you need to get clients, save your cash and buy a 5 series instead and join the rank of real men who have made it and then maintain the hell out of the car like its your baby. I know a lot of finance guys in Asia, who kept on upgrade their living standards as their salaries when up and then it was 2008 and they were let go without any skills outside of finance and they were crying. Crying, wondering wtf they were going to do, especailly with a shit load of monthly payments which were nothing when they were making 18k a month, but where a lot with no cash flow and only 300k in savings. Now that ain't going happen again for the next 3-5 years, I''m pretty sure of that. That being said, I don't think its particularly necessary for a 335i over a 320i for driving experience and if you really wanna be flashly (which I think is fine), get a 5 series later. But honestly, getting a BMW providing you don't into an accident and maintain it very well (and don't get some weird colour), I think its personally a good buy as you can drive it for 5 -8 years and then sell it at that point. But if you're just 2 years away from getting a 5 series and marriage, and with a 5 series you can easily have it for 8-10 years, then wait a bit, get the 5 series. But all in all, i think you're in a great position but just think about, do you want the drive or the flash? The drive, go 320i coupe, the flash, wait and get a 5 after all, I'd think a flashy 3series are for rich university kids.
Hyung,
Thank you for your input. The main reason I want to get the car is to be flashy. I have test driven the M3 before but I decided against buying it because I felt I am too casual of a driver. I could not feel the difference in 100 horsepower or use it to the fullest potential. I am planning to get a 2011 white 335is (sport model) coupe with a black interior and fully loaded.
As an engineer, I think my profession is recession proof, I should be able to make these payments and it'll be over in 3 years. I also have money invested in the right places so I should be safe if the unforeseen happens.
I wanted to ask you how come you feel the 5 series is very manly and is a better show off car? I wanted a 3 series because I felt it screams youth and I wanted a 2 door coupe. I feel the 5 series is too big and feels like a luxury family sedan. Maybe it's possible I'm still thinking like a kid but I want to hear your opinion on this.
Also, can you recommend me a nice pair of driving sunglasses that would look good on a young asian person driving a white bmw
Thank you
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On March 11 2011 03:35 Kutsuki wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 10:02 MightyAtom wrote:On March 09 2011 07:42 Kutsuki wrote:
Dear Hyung,
I am 25 years old and I am very lucky to have a good high paying job. I have been doing my best to invest my disposable income into things that hopefully will not depreciate in value such as a house, retirement plan, 2 business ventures, and a small amount into stocks. I am able to do all of this and still manage to save money every month.
The problem is that I want to buy a brand new BMW 335i, lets say it cost 60k. I know that I could spend the 60k on something else that will be wiser and give me better returns because I know I only need a car works. However, I feel that it's a beautiful car and you are only (age) 20 once. What do you recommend? Do you think having a fancy luxurious car has it's benefits instead of just being a money sink?
btw I think I can afford the car, 1.5k for the next 3 years. The car is 18% of my monthly take home income. Now as a BMW owner myself, I have to ask you, do you want the car because you love to drive, or because its flashy? If you want the care because you love to drive, then I say, get a 320i (I don't know if they have that model anymore) and get it as a coupe. Should be somewhat cheaper but its a great car and sexy enough and its wonderful to drive (get it tuned up at a BMW specialised shop). Now if you want to be flashy; don't do it. Unless you are a deal maker or a senior management, lawyer where you need to get clients, save your cash and buy a 5 series instead and join the rank of real men who have made it and then maintain the hell out of the car like its your baby. I know a lot of finance guys in Asia, who kept on upgrade their living standards as their salaries when up and then it was 2008 and they were let go without any skills outside of finance and they were crying. Crying, wondering wtf they were going to do, especailly with a shit load of monthly payments which were nothing when they were making 18k a month, but where a lot with no cash flow and only 300k in savings. Now that ain't going happen again for the next 3-5 years, I''m pretty sure of that. That being said, I don't think its particularly necessary for a 335i over a 320i for driving experience and if you really wanna be flashly (which I think is fine), get a 5 series later. But honestly, getting a BMW providing you don't into an accident and maintain it very well (and don't get some weird colour), I think its personally a good buy as you can drive it for 5 -8 years and then sell it at that point. But if you're just 2 years away from getting a 5 series and marriage, and with a 5 series you can easily have it for 8-10 years, then wait a bit, get the 5 series. But all in all, i think you're in a great position but just think about, do you want the drive or the flash? The drive, go 320i coupe, the flash, wait and get a 5 after all, I'd think a flashy 3series are for rich university kids. Hyung, Thank you for your input. The main reason I want to get the car is to be flashy. I have test driven the M3 before but I decided against buying it because I felt I am too casual of a driver. I could not feel the difference in 100 horsepower or use it to the fullest potential. I am planning to get a 2011 white 335is (sport model) coupe with a black interior and fully loaded. As an engineer, I think my profession is recession proof, I should be able to make these payments and it'll be over in 3 years. I also have money invested in the right places so I should be safe if the unforeseen happens. I wanted to ask you how come you feel the 5 series is very manly and is a better show off car? I wanted a 3 series because I felt it screams youth and I wanted a 2 door coupe. I feel the 5 series is too big and feels like a luxury family sedan. Maybe it's possible I'm still thinking like a kid but I want to hear your opinion on this. Also, can you recommend me a nice pair of driving sunglasses that would look good on a young asian person driving a white bmw Thank you
Hell, as an engineer driving a 335is, I say go for it, cause you definitely need it for style, keke, but seriously though, so the money isn't an issue, and you have also picked out the right car for what you want. I also assume that you'll buy a second family car when you do get married.
I wouldn't say that something in a 5 series is a better show off car in terms of flashiness, it isn't, but in terms of making a statement about stability, position and power, its far ahead of having a 3 Series, even if your 335is fully loaded is actually even more expensive than a standard 5 series. I think this is also a Korean thing as there are more 5 series sold in Korea than 3 series. I was going to buy an M5 last year, but since I decided to launch 2 companies instead, that pretty much nixed that plan. But I think you do point out a good point, I mean, how ridiculous would it be for someone in their 40's to be driving a 3 opposed to 5? Very.
But someone in the mid-late 20's, not at all, perhaps even much more appropriate, because if you got a 5 in black, you very may well look like you're the driver for someone (my wife made this joke about me all the time when I was seriously considering to buy a 7). So if we really want to dig deeper, if you're gonna get this car to impress the ladies, then which kinds of ladies. The ones that are pretty superficial and from middle income backgrounds will be uber impressed with a coupe 335, so impressed; and if you had a 5 series they probably wouldn't be impressed at all because they would think it was your father's car and really have no idea what a 5 series represents.
But get a lady who is from a wealth background and knows what M3, 335, 523, S or E class is, and when each model had a its change, then she'll probably think you're a real man instead a guy who just has a great car. Plus since she probably drives some type of lexus or a beamer anyways, it ain't gonna impress her that much.
So if you're looking to impress your friends who maybe haven't gotten a sick car yet, or let your rich visa student friends know that you didn't need daddy to buy your car and now you guys can all go driving together for bubble tea together, then for sure 335 is exactly what you need. But if wanna pick up the CEO's daughter, then go for the 5, but not right now, at 25 it is too young, 28 is probably the earliest you can get it in any case. All in all, it sounds like the 335 for right now is a great choice and you still might impress the rich man's daughter, after all it is a 335 not a 320 ^^
As far as the sunglasses, To look like a serious driver, go raybans, to get some flash, go LV, so go LV, something aviator style. gogo!
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Hyung,
my dad is thinking about buying an Acura MDX, BMW X5, or Audi Q7 for the family. Because I'm going to go to college nearby, I will be able to drive this as well. From an Asian perspective, which car should we get? We're leaning more on the MDX due to its reliability as it is Japanese and its bang-for-the-buck.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 10 2011 09:50 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 05:39 milikan wrote:
When you were working your ass off to build a new company, did you ever doubt yourself before the results came in?
I'm gunning hard in uni for an engineering degree, 4.0, working part time, looking for an internship this summer, almost not sleeping. I'm getting very emotionally drained with the lack of results; no job, doing mediocre in grades; how do I get motivated? the results haven't come close to coming in yet, its really just been a couple of months or so since launch and I'm still in the preparation process for others. I still have a lot of doubts, every day, I don't push them away, I look at them. Sometimes I have doubts because I'm not working hard enough, so then I work harder. Sometime I have doubts because really my strategy is a bit off or not developed enough. Now, I'm old enough to know when I need to make adjustment or if I'm just reacting blindly, so if something is making me lose sleep after working hardcore for 3 days straight, I know there is an issue, and try to fix it. Things like doubt and loss of confidence are daily struggles when doing things you're not use to or dont have a safe net for. You need to believe in your ambition, that's it. Its what you want and just don't stop till you get there, work harder, work smarter, always keep improving yourself, do the same things that haven't worked AND do new approaches as well. A lot of times, we think we have pressed ourselves to the max, but we are limited because we have set expectations for ourselves that weren't immediately met. What if I said to you, change you expectation to 1000 failed applications before you get the job you want before you started this process, so at this point, you'd think, well damn, I've just applied for 45 internships, I'm still no where near what Atom said. And if you got the internship job at 70 then you'd have though you accomplished something awesome. So its about your own expectations of thinking thinks will immediately work out. If my business don't take off right away, I accept that, I have fund for 2 years to get it right, if I don't get it right in 2 years, well at that point, I'm likely to be depressed for a bit, but if I had an expectation to be rocking off on the 1st month, I'll have killed myself already. So gauge your expectations first and focus solely on your ambition, it will motivate you. Just know, that you commit yourself to your ambition, no matter how long it takes; and remember, there are other fuckers worse off than you AND they are getting these internships because they know they are 'losers' and keep on trying until it happens. Cause at your level, the difference between the losers and winners is minimal; it's more defined on your work ethic and determination. Say it with me. I am a Machine. now go and get it done and don't stop until it happens, you can fail 100 times, but you are a machine you will not stop until you get what you need because you will get it.
goddamn, thats some good advice. dunno what to say other than... thanks! once again, really good advice. gave me a new perspective and new motivation.
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On March 12 2011 12:14 SkyLegenD wrote:
Hyung,
my dad is thinking about buying an Acura MDX, BMW X5, or Audi Q7 for the family. Because I'm going to go to college nearby, I will be able to drive this as well. From an Asian perspective, which car should we get? We're leaning more on the MDX due to its reliability as it is Japanese and its bang-for-the-buck.
Seriously, I don't know what is an Asian perspective, I can only give you a Korean perspective. ^^ So since I'm not a car expert, and I don't think you should pick a car from any perspective than your own practical sense and needs; it sounds like you already have some good reasoning in place. ^^
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On March 12 2011 13:31 milikan wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 10 2011 09:50 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 05:39 milikan wrote:
When you were working your ass off to build a new company, did you ever doubt yourself before the results came in?
I'm gunning hard in uni for an engineering degree, 4.0, working part time, looking for an internship this summer, almost not sleeping. I'm getting very emotionally drained with the lack of results; no job, doing mediocre in grades; how do I get motivated? the results haven't come close to coming in yet, its really just been a couple of months or so since launch and I'm still in the preparation process for others. I still have a lot of doubts, every day, I don't push them away, I look at them. Sometimes I have doubts because I'm not working hard enough, so then I work harder. Sometime I have doubts because really my strategy is a bit off or not developed enough. Now, I'm old enough to know when I need to make adjustment or if I'm just reacting blindly, so if something is making me lose sleep after working hardcore for 3 days straight, I know there is an issue, and try to fix it. Things like doubt and loss of confidence are daily struggles when doing things you're not use to or dont have a safe net for. You need to believe in your ambition, that's it. Its what you want and just don't stop till you get there, work harder, work smarter, always keep improving yourself, do the same things that haven't worked AND do new approaches as well. A lot of times, we think we have pressed ourselves to the max, but we are limited because we have set expectations for ourselves that weren't immediately met. What if I said to you, change you expectation to 1000 failed applications before you get the job you want before you started this process, so at this point, you'd think, well damn, I've just applied for 45 internships, I'm still no where near what Atom said. And if you got the internship job at 70 then you'd have though you accomplished something awesome. So its about your own expectations of thinking thinks will immediately work out. If my business don't take off right away, I accept that, I have fund for 2 years to get it right, if I don't get it right in 2 years, well at that point, I'm likely to be depressed for a bit, but if I had an expectation to be rocking off on the 1st month, I'll have killed myself already. So gauge your expectations first and focus solely on your ambition, it will motivate you. Just know, that you commit yourself to your ambition, no matter how long it takes; and remember, there are other fuckers worse off than you AND they are getting these internships because they know they are 'losers' and keep on trying until it happens. Cause at your level, the difference between the losers and winners is minimal; it's more defined on your work ethic and determination. Say it with me. I am a Machine. now go and get it done and don't stop until it happens, you can fail 100 times, but you are a machine you will not stop until you get what you need because you will get it. goddamn, thats some good advice. dunno what to say other than... thanks! once again, really good advice. gave me a new perspective and new motivation.
Fighting! ^^
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On March 12 2011 18:00 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 12:14 SkyLegenD wrote:
Hyung,
my dad is thinking about buying an Acura MDX, BMW X5, or Audi Q7 for the family. Because I'm going to go to college nearby, I will be able to drive this as well. From an Asian perspective, which car should we get? We're leaning more on the MDX due to its reliability as it is Japanese and its bang-for-the-buck. Seriously, I don't know what is an Asian perspective, I can only give you a Korean perspective. ^^ So since I'm not a car expert, and I don't think you should pick a car from any perspective than your own practical sense and needs; it sounds like you already have some good reasoning in place. ^^ Thanks, I read your reply about the BMW 3/5 series and it was really intriguing
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I want to get out of Canada some time this year, and Korea is my lost likely destination since I'll likely only have a weekend or week to visit, and I've heard that Seoul is mostly what you wanna see.
I guess this is less of a, "teach me the ways of Man, oh Korean One," as a general question, but what are some essentials I should know in terms of custom and behaviour as both a foreigner and local? I don't wanna piss anyone off who's hosting me in their country
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On March 12 2011 20:51 SkyLegenD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2011 18:00 MightyAtom wrote:On March 12 2011 12:14 SkyLegenD wrote:
Hyung,
my dad is thinking about buying an Acura MDX, BMW X5, or Audi Q7 for the family. Because I'm going to go to college nearby, I will be able to drive this as well. From an Asian perspective, which car should we get? We're leaning more on the MDX due to its reliability as it is Japanese and its bang-for-the-buck. Seriously, I don't know what is an Asian perspective, I can only give you a Korean perspective. ^^ So since I'm not a car expert, and I don't think you should pick a car from any perspective than your own practical sense and needs; it sounds like you already have some good reasoning in place. ^^ Thanks, I read your reply about the BMW 3/5 series and it was really intriguing
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On March 13 2011 04:38 Cedstick wrote:I want to get out of Canada some time this year, and Korea is my lost likely destination since I'll likely only have a weekend or week to visit, and I've heard that Seoul is mostly what you wanna see. I guess this is less of a, "teach me the ways of Man, oh Korean One," as a general question, but what are some essentials I should know in terms of custom and behaviour as both a foreigner and local? I don't wanna piss anyone off who's hosting me in their country
Well I wouldn't fly all the way out to Korea for just a weekend, a week maybe, but not a weekend, the flight is too damn long.
All you need to do is try to learn some Korean before you go, 'hello, thank you, mmm yummy, etc' and make an attempt to speak it when you are in Korea and the Korea people around you will help you with the rest. But you should go with friends and have people you know in Seoul because it makes a huge difference because there aren't that many touristy things to do in Seoul (opposed to going to Tokyo or Hong Kong).
Cheers
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how do you deal with people who have big egos? just want them to shut up and go away
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How does the general Korean community treat the mentally challenged and people with learning disabilities?especially with regards to children who are in middle school and above.
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On March 14 2011 00:39 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
how do you deal with people who have big egos? just want them to shut up and go away
1. Do they have big egos because really they are that good or not?
If they are good but cocky, well c'est la vie, it's more your problem than theirs.
If they are little pieces of shit and just got the ego, and I am assuming that they are going out their way to be in your face; just completely ignore that they are even there, talk past them, let them know you are purposely ignoring them and it will annoy them to no end, even though its so damn obvious. But someone with a big ego and is a little piece of shit, just can't help themselves because they want to be the center of attention in some way, otherwise why would they act the way the act?
But that is just looking for trouble and immature (although I've never been above doing that when I was younger); the best thing to do is just immediately walk away every time they start talking or come near by; your not running away, just being deliberate, still just ignoring them, but then they question whether or not you are doing it on purpose or not. But you should feel sorry for these kinds of guys, they always, always bite off more than they can chew. Do not engage them in verbal upmanship, useless.
You might not see it during the time that you know them, whether its a year or half a decade, but Karma is a bitch and just know they'll get some. Or if you are curious you can go back to your 15th anniversary for your high school reunion for kicks, but it won't make you feel any better about the cocky guy who had the big ego and could back it up, he might end up being the most genuine guy there. ^^
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Hyung- I've heard that a TON of girls in Korea get plastic surgery.
Is it true that majority of Korean girls aren't naturally pretty?
This may end up being kind of disappointing when I go there.
(Honestly, I don't really mind as long as they look good, but it's kind of disheartening to know that they weren't naturally like that)
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On March 14 2011 02:28 BLinD-RawR wrote:
How does the general Korean community treat the mentally challenged and people with learning disabilities?especially with regards to children who are in middle school and above.
Mentally challenged, they are separated form general society by their parents. You will rarely ever see someone mentally challenged in public.
Learning disabilities are generally not recognized other than identifying the person as somewhat 'slower'. If that person does not have artistic talent or some other skills, then they will be forced to feel as though their is something inherently wrong with them.
Unless they are from an extremely educated background, the parents will not recognize this disability either. By the time they get to middle school, the student should be sufficiently traumatized in their ability not to succeed unless they have found some other talent. By high school, if their parents can afford it, they will send them overseas for education as a last hope for them. This is a very different reason from other types of visa students. Because the Korean system is extremely standardized and focused on testing and memorization. No matter how good Korea scores on international exams, this is 100% not a good enviornment to get an education in, you become an encylopedia of useless information with little critical thinking ability aside from what your family teaches you.
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On March 14 2011 03:48 mizU wrote:
Hyung- I've heard that a TON of girls in Korea get plastic surgery.
Is it true that majority of Korean girls aren't naturally pretty?
This may end up being kind of disappointing when I go there.
(Honestly, I don't really mind as long as they look good, but it's kind of disheartening to know that they weren't naturally like that)
It is absolutely NOT TRUE that Korean girls are not pretty, in fact, BECAUSE they are pretty, there is rampant plastic surgery because everyone want to be as pretty as the most prettiest and if you are born average or just a bit above average, the natural prettiness of your friends will drive you to constant anxiety and envy to look more pretty. Thus if everyone wasn't pretty, then why would many women get plastic surgery, but an off shoot is that now the naturally pretty women need to get plastic surgery to be even more pretty.
Conservative households will not allow their children to get plastic surgery, even if they are from a wealthy background. But the rumor that Korean women are not naturally pretty and need plastic surgery is spread by a lot of Chinese girls who can't stand how pretty Korean women are in general.
KOREAN WOMEN are naturally Pretty 100%, but if you're not better to get plastic surgery then live as the 20% ugly in our society.
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I love your blog, bro.. i mean hyung
Here's some more questions I am curious aboot
When is the Korean Reunification? Do most South Koreans even want that?
Also are there definite two political parties like conservative republicans and liberal democrats in the U.S.? Do Koreans care aboot politics?
What happened to the protesting/demonstrating spirit of the 80's or are Korean pretty happy with the state of the country?
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Dear Hyung,
I have a real embarrassing question, I will try to word it as appropriately as possible. I am lucky to have a girlfriend, shes good to me. Do you have any strategies for lasting longer in bed? I feel I finish pretty fast and I am "one and done". Is there anything I can do?
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On March 11 2011 03:35 Kutsuki wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2011 10:02 MightyAtom wrote:On March 09 2011 07:42 Kutsuki wrote:
Dear Hyung,
I am 25 years old and I am very lucky to have a good high paying job. I have been doing my best to invest my disposable income into things that hopefully will not depreciate in value such as a house, retirement plan, 2 business ventures, and a small amount into stocks. I am able to do all of this and still manage to save money every month.
The problem is that I want to buy a brand new BMW 335i, lets say it cost 60k. I know that I could spend the 60k on something else that will be wiser and give me better returns because I know I only need a car works. However, I feel that it's a beautiful car and you are only (age) 20 once. What do you recommend? Do you think having a fancy luxurious car has it's benefits instead of just being a money sink?
btw I think I can afford the car, 1.5k for the next 3 years. The car is 18% of my monthly take home income. Now as a BMW owner myself, I have to ask you, do you want the car because you love to drive, or because its flashy? If you want the care because you love to drive, then I say, get a 320i (I don't know if they have that model anymore) and get it as a coupe. Should be somewhat cheaper but its a great car and sexy enough and its wonderful to drive (get it tuned up at a BMW specialised shop). Now if you want to be flashy; don't do it. Unless you are a deal maker or a senior management, lawyer where you need to get clients, save your cash and buy a 5 series instead and join the rank of real men who have made it and then maintain the hell out of the car like its your baby. I know a lot of finance guys in Asia, who kept on upgrade their living standards as their salaries when up and then it was 2008 and they were let go without any skills outside of finance and they were crying. Crying, wondering wtf they were going to do, especailly with a shit load of monthly payments which were nothing when they were making 18k a month, but where a lot with no cash flow and only 300k in savings. Now that ain't going happen again for the next 3-5 years, I''m pretty sure of that. That being said, I don't think its particularly necessary for a 335i over a 320i for driving experience and if you really wanna be flashly (which I think is fine), get a 5 series later. But honestly, getting a BMW providing you don't into an accident and maintain it very well (and don't get some weird colour), I think its personally a good buy as you can drive it for 5 -8 years and then sell it at that point. But if you're just 2 years away from getting a 5 series and marriage, and with a 5 series you can easily have it for 8-10 years, then wait a bit, get the 5 series. But all in all, i think you're in a great position but just think about, do you want the drive or the flash? The drive, go 320i coupe, the flash, wait and get a 5 after all, I'd think a flashy 3series are for rich university kids. Hyung, Thank you for your input. The main reason I want to get the car is to be flashy. I have test driven the M3 before but I decided against buying it because I felt I am too casual of a driver. I could not feel the difference in 100 horsepower or use it to the fullest potential. I am planning to get a 2011 white 335is (sport model) coupe with a black interior and fully loaded. As an engineer, I think my profession is recession proof, I should be able to make these payments and it'll be over in 3 years. I also have money invested in the right places so I should be safe if the unforeseen happens. I wanted to ask you how come you feel the 5 series is very manly and is a better show off car? I wanted a 3 series because I felt it screams youth and I wanted a 2 door coupe. I feel the 5 series is too big and feels like a luxury family sedan. Maybe it's possible I'm still thinking like a kid but I want to hear your opinion on this. Also, can you recommend me a nice pair of driving sunglasses that would look good on a young asian person driving a white bmw Thank you
If you cannot feel the difference (I really can't believe that—seriously????) and are all for flash, go for the 5. Three's are definitely nice, but that's the kind of car that rich kids get for their 18th birthday. Daddy ain't buying a 5 series for his snobby little kid. That's a man's car.
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On March 14 2011 11:14 FakePlasticLove wrote:
I love your blog, bro.. i mean hyung
Here's some more questions I am curious aboot
When is the Korean Reunification? Do most South Koreans even want that?
Also are there definite two political parties like conservative republicans and liberal democrats in the U.S.? Do Koreans care aboot politics?
What happened to the protesting/demonstrating spirit of the 80's or are Korean pretty happy with the state of the country?
^^
Pre 1990's yes, people did want it, even if we didn't exactly know how it was going to happen, but no South Korea would say, no they didn't want it. But after 1989 and the reunification of Germany and the economic difficulties faced there, South Koreans changed their general attitude to: ok, we're for reunification, but not a reunification that would create massive economic strain and if reunification doesn't happen in the immediate future, then that is fine as well.
This has continued to result in further apathy on the top, especially after the financial meltdown of 1997 and nowadays, we'd just like it if NK would stop being so unstable, but nowadays, feelings are mixed and we are taking a harder stance to NK than we have from the previous 10 years (we had the 'sunshine policy' in place for some time).
We do care about politics, before it was more regionally motivated, but nowadays the camps are basically split up into: (A) economic development plus hawkish NK or (B)human rights social equality and open to NK. Currently our president represents (a), party names change all the time, on the (b) side, but (A) grand national party has its roots from the former conservative dictators.
We still protest but for very different reasons, back in the 80's it was for democracy, nowadays it for expressing a social voice. You may recall a couple of years ago, the mass protests against the import of US beef, which was actually initiated by middle school children, but turned into this huge Seoul protest for weeks. Now foreingers will say, wtf, (including dumb ass Korean Americans), why protest US beef, but the reality was that while US beef triggered it, it was more of a message to the new president that he couldn't run Korea as if it was just a corporation or ignore the wishes of the people and that the people couldn't simply abide by decision that seems so much like a dictator's way of decision making more than a democratic country. It was a huge and humbling wake up call for the president who first dismissed it as well as , wtf, which further triggered the outrage among the average citizen.
So that spirit to maintain our freedoms as citizens rather than as servants of the state is still there, although it does express itself under some different banners.
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On March 15 2011 01:55 Kutsuki wrote:
Dear Hyung,
I have a real embarrassing question, I will try to word it as appropriately as possible. I am lucky to have a girlfriend, shes good to me. Do you have any strategies for lasting longer in bed? I feel I finish pretty fast and I am "one and done". Is there anything I can do?
3 things:
1. do you sleep enough because may times this is related to general stamina, get enough sleep and go sprinting and do some lunges and it will help immensely.
2. general technique, sounds nutty, but in any case, -short, short, short, mid- short short short mid- then after a while: short short mid short deep, etc. basically don't be shy to simply just do it a bit then wait, then do it a bit then wait. There will be a point where you would normally finish, but just go very very slowly at that point, rest, wait, and then that moment will pass by and you'll get your second wind. Don't think that everyone is naturally a monster in bed, it takes time to find your groove.
3. don't think about dead babies or whatever, just be natural yourself, it may be that you just do a lot of things to her first and make her happy first then just do your thing at the end, but most of all, when you do make love, you need to take control, and direct the action; if you don't, your natural male instincts to dominate won't kick in and it would be the same as just doing it yourself.
but, it is process, try it step by step and a very common and natural thing.
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Have you ever hyung out with Artosis/John/Tasteless/Liquid players?
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On March 16 2011 10:05 mizU wrote:
Have you ever hyung out with Artosis/John/Tasteless/Liquid players?
Funny you should ask, I just went out with Naz, Jinro and Huk just a couple of days ago for dinner after Huk's win. I drove them home after the GSL game, we had about 6 servings of beef, 1 bottle of soju and 4 large bottle of beers and then we went for some more beers and Huk had his fruit salad punch. It was a very pleasant evening with an old guy like me, no crazy girly stuff when I go out, just like to eat as much nice food as possible. ^^
I've never had the chance to take out Artosis and Tasteless out for dinner, I'll be sure to do that the next time I see them, I know Tasteless well enough, but Artosis, we just know each other by face, but I did say hi to them that day as well. Generally in person I don't have much time, also I have a very low tolerance for bad manners so if I'm not introduced properly I generally won't introduce myself (thus I never formally met Idra, but we did speak in passing, I personally thought he was quite polite and pleasant in person). But I did ask to get introduced to TLO when he was here and got a picture taken with him and Jinro when they first came to Korea keke.
In terms of gamers, I don't know if a lot of people know that I was involved with WCG challenge and the 1st WCG back in 1999-2001 respectively, and it's where I ended up meeting Giyom, Smuft, and Elky and then Rekrul over those early years. I was still the old guy then and the much older guy now as they were still teenagers keke (and I was taller by a bit then, now shortest by a lot lol). To this day, we're all very close like family. I also met Naz all those years ago and of course we're close as well, but he when on to back to Europe to do something called TeamLiquid, some horse breeding clan or something like that ^^.
I did go to two TL meet ups over the years in Seoul. One was very small and was headed my myself and Rekrul, so it was fun keke and the other was this past year organized by lil'susie which was extremely fun as well because it was so huge. I would have gone to the last one, in Seoul, but unfortunately was in travel.
I pretty fortunate though to be surround by such uniquely talented people in an industry which I do love and have a very personal connection to even though I'm a shit player (although put me on a Korean Girl Guide 4v4 money map and I'll show you whats up ^^ SC2 included keke) and I've also grown with them getting sucked into the poker industry along side their influence, again on the industry side (I'm a sucky poker player too, but I do have a major side event win to my name, keke). But the one thing I love about the TL community is the amount of talent and skill here. During the dinner I mentioned that Karl Marx said something along the lines of 'give me 10 men like Jesus and I can rule the world' and I said, 'put together 40 of the brightest minds at TL and I can direct them to do virtually anything' and Naz looks at me and says, 'damn that's a lot of talent right there' and I said, give me 40 of them, and we can do virtually anything ^^
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playing intramural soccer vs another fraternity, one of my gfs good guy friends is in it. they're all club players. my team is going to be missing over half our actual players due to class. recently started training regimen because i plan on playing again next year on the club team but I'm still nowhere near in shape.
Did you ever get nervous before rugby games? I'm always nervous to almost being sick before any game no matter how prepared I know I am but once it starts im completely fine.
What do you do to prepare for sporting events
What's your mindset when you enter them
I'm fretting. going to deal with it. trying to go trying to win instead of scared of looking bad. how do you push yourself over the edge?
edit: 1-0 them, 2 huge whiffs by my team, set up practice saturday and I'm cutting people. hit my personal goals (not score) but team goals didn't fare well. there is no quick fix for dedication.
my questions stand
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On March 16 2011 11:55 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 10:05 mizU wrote:
Have you ever hyung out with Artosis/John/Tasteless/Liquid players? Funny you should ask, I just went out with Naz, Jinro and Huk just a couple of days ago for dinner after Huk's win. I drove them home after the GSL game, we had about 6 servings of beef, 1 bottle of soju and 4 large bottle of beers and then we went for some more beers and Huk had his fruit salad punch. It was a very pleasant evening with an old guy like me, no crazy girly stuff when I go out, just like to eat as much nice food as possible. ^^ I've never had the chance to take out Artosis and Tasteless out for dinner, I'll be sure to do that the next time I see them, I know Tasteless well enough, but Artosis, we just know each other by face, but I did say hi to them that day as well. Generally in person I don't have much time, also I have a very low tolerance for bad manners so if I'm not introduced properly I generally won't introduce myself (thus I never formally met Idra, but we did speak in passing, I personally thought he was quite polite and pleasant in person). But I did ask to get introduced to TLO when he was here and got a picture taken with him and Jinro when they first came to Korea keke. In terms of gamers, I don't know if a lot of people know that I was involved with WCG challenge and the 1st WCG back in 1999-2001 respectively, and it's where I ended up meeting Giyom, Smuft, and Elky and then Rekrul over those early years. I was still the old guy then and the much older guy now as they were still teenagers keke (and I was taller by a bit then, now shortest by a lot lol). To this day, we're all very close like family. I also met Naz all those years ago and of course we're close as well, but he when on to back to Europe to do something called TeamLiquid, some horse breeding clan or something like that ^^. I did go to two TL meet ups over the years in Seoul. One was very small and was headed my myself and Rekrul, so it was fun keke and the other was this past year organized by lil'susie which was extremely fun as well because it was so huge. I would have gone to the last one, in Seoul, but unfortunately was in travel. I pretty fortunate though to be surround by such uniquely talented people in an industry which I do love and have a very personal connection to even though I'm a shit player (although put me on a Korean Girl Guide 4v4 money map and I'll show you whats up ^^ SC2 included keke) and I've also grown with them getting sucked into the poker industry along side their influence, again on the industry side (I'm a sucky poker player too, but I do have a major side event win to my name, keke). But the one thing I love about the TL community is the amount of talent and skill here. During the dinner I mentioned that Karl Marx said something along the lines of 'give me 10 men like Jesus and I can rule the world' and I said, 'put together 40 of the brightest minds at TL and I can direct them to do virtually anything' and Naz looks at me and says, 'damn that's a lot of talent right there' and I said, give me 40 of them, and we can do virtually anything ^^
wait weren't you with Jinro and Nazgul at the studio when HuK played his up & down match ?
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Hi,
What I got from this thread is that you are, amongst other things, materially successful. As far as I know, you need a lot of drive for that. Where do you get your drive from?
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I just wanted to say thank you for this entire blog. Some exceptionally thoughtful answers and many useful takes on alot of topics. Some of what you said has really helped/inspired me to improve on some of my weak areas, with some greats thoughts on how to go about doing so. Your a sharp guy with a ton of experience and it's been great seeing how you approach so many facets of life.
I really appreciate it, thank you for putting in all this time and effort to make this blog so excellent!
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On March 16 2011 22:28 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
playing intramural soccer vs another fraternity, one of my gfs good guy friends is in it. they're all club players. my team is going to be missing over half our actual players due to class. recently started training regimen because i plan on playing again next year on the club team but I'm still nowhere near in shape.
Did you ever get nervous before rugby games? I'm always nervous to almost being sick before any game no matter how prepared I know I am but once it starts im completely fine.
What do you do to prepare for sporting events
What's your mindset when you enter them
I'm fretting. going to deal with it. trying to go trying to win instead of scared of looking bad. how do you push yourself over the edge?
edit: 1-0 them, 2 huge whiffs by my team, set up practice saturday and I'm cutting people. hit my personal goals (not score) but team goals didn't fare well. there is no quick fix for dedication.
my questions stand
Never nervous before a rugby game specifically because it was one of the very few things I was talented at, but I have been nervous at other tasks.
You know that term 'clutch player' the go-to-guy when everything is on the line, game winning field goal, drive, basket...the last play of the game? You need to be that guy for the position you play. You're not going to play every role on the pitch/field, but the one that you play, you know your can do your job. I guess I generally have a lot more respect for individual sports because every clutch play is on them, but on the flip side, they also don't have the expectations of the entire team on their shoulders either. So first, you need to know you can be the clutch player and so I think that gives a solid confidence.
Obvious you know how to play the game or else you'd still be nervous when you play, but the entire not wanting to look bad over winning, its a pretty common thing, but I guess its stems from:
Is winning, (i)winning that game or (ii)winning being the best player you can be over the course of the season? For me it's always been the later and so I always put everything out on the field knowing that if I don't, how would I know if I'm improving or not? I think it what defines a true competitor and I don't have any patience for anyone on my team that doesn't put as much dedication as I do. If you're scared not to look good, well you're head is not 100% in the game and for sure you wont' play as well at the very least, you're definitely not improving.
In terms of pushing myself over the edge, I think for Rugby it's a bit different, 1. when I get on the pitch I make up my mind, that I don't care if I live or die on this field, as long as I make every play I can. 2. So following that, I'm very serious when I play, I dont' joke around, i don't care about the spectators, I don't care about my team mates feeling on the field, sometimes (embarrassed to say this) I feel as though I'm some raging viking demi-god of war on the field whose purpose is not to think, but is to crush the competitor's will to live. But other times when the competition is just tough, I feel, as though I'm one man who is going to carry my team through it all to victory, regardless of the odds. But I guess more than anything, I don't think of it as a game, I think of it as life and death.
But in terms of your team, you can't make them dedicated if they dont' have any, but a good leader can turn things around.
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On March 16 2011 23:02 cArn- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:55 MightyAtom wrote:On March 16 2011 10:05 mizU wrote:
Have you ever hyung out with Artosis/John/Tasteless/Liquid players? Funny you should ask, I just went out with Naz, Jinro and Huk just a couple of days ago for dinner after Huk's win. I drove them home after the GSL game, we had about 6 servings of beef, 1 bottle of soju and 4 large bottle of beers and then we went for some more beers and Huk had his fruit salad punch. It was a very pleasant evening with an old guy like me, no crazy girly stuff when I go out, just like to eat as much nice food as possible. ^^ I've never had the chance to take out Artosis and Tasteless out for dinner, I'll be sure to do that the next time I see them, I know Tasteless well enough, but Artosis, we just know each other by face, but I did say hi to them that day as well. Generally in person I don't have much time, also I have a very low tolerance for bad manners so if I'm not introduced properly I generally won't introduce myself (thus I never formally met Idra, but we did speak in passing, I personally thought he was quite polite and pleasant in person). But I did ask to get introduced to TLO when he was here and got a picture taken with him and Jinro when they first came to Korea keke. In terms of gamers, I don't know if a lot of people know that I was involved with WCG challenge and the 1st WCG back in 1999-2001 respectively, and it's where I ended up meeting Giyom, Smuft, and Elky and then Rekrul over those early years. I was still the old guy then and the much older guy now as they were still teenagers keke (and I was taller by a bit then, now shortest by a lot lol). To this day, we're all very close like family. I also met Naz all those years ago and of course we're close as well, but he when on to back to Europe to do something called TeamLiquid, some horse breeding clan or something like that ^^. I did go to two TL meet ups over the years in Seoul. One was very small and was headed my myself and Rekrul, so it was fun keke and the other was this past year organized by lil'susie which was extremely fun as well because it was so huge. I would have gone to the last one, in Seoul, but unfortunately was in travel. I pretty fortunate though to be surround by such uniquely talented people in an industry which I do love and have a very personal connection to even though I'm a shit player (although put me on a Korean Girl Guide 4v4 money map and I'll show you whats up ^^ SC2 included keke) and I've also grown with them getting sucked into the poker industry along side their influence, again on the industry side (I'm a sucky poker player too, but I do have a major side event win to my name, keke). But the one thing I love about the TL community is the amount of talent and skill here. During the dinner I mentioned that Karl Marx said something along the lines of 'give me 10 men like Jesus and I can rule the world' and I said, 'put together 40 of the brightest minds at TL and I can direct them to do virtually anything' and Naz looks at me and says, 'damn that's a lot of talent right there' and I said, give me 40 of them, and we can do virtually anything ^^ wait weren't you with Jinro and Nazgul at the studio when HuK played his up & down match ?
If you're talking about the fat Korean guy with the titlist cap sitting between Naz and Jin, yup that was me, sorry if I didn't introduce myself, I generally don't unless someone makes an introduction, but if you see me next time, say hi ^^
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On March 16 2011 23:46 Navane wrote:
Hi,
What I got from this thread is that you are, amongst other things, materially successful. As far as I know, you need a lot of drive for that. Where do you get your drive from?
I'm not that materially successful, for a salary man yes, for someone on the equity side now, I'm close to personal destitute as you can get (luckily I married a rich man's daughter who's father has pity on me right now).
The problem with our society is that money does really make the little things easier. But in order to get to a position where your company pays you enough to really enjoy life, you have to work like a bitch to get there. I'd say, you could comfortably live on 80k but you would still need to live as middle class family, ie no BMW and eating out every night, but around the 200k range you can live that life style but without savings, and by the +350k range, you have more than enough money to save, send your kids to private school, etc. But I'd have to say, making 400k a year, to get to that position, whether it is finance or management, well for business its fucking lot of work.
People don't have any idea what work really is, imagine the only time you get to sleep is when you are on an airplane flying in between meetings and you spend more 4 times more time with you junior staff than you do with your wife or if your 1st child is born and you miss more than half of his first year because of work and travel. But that is what it takes, so you're right in that regards.
A couple of things: I enjoy stressful situations, I enjoy it when the shit is all falling apart and when they need someone to fix everything, maybe I get some sick egotistical pride from it, but I think it points to the fact that no matter how hard the work is, I see it some type of challenge.
If some other staff in a different division wants to play politics with me, I'm happy that he does, so I crush him and make him look like a fool.
So another point would be having that supreme confidence that comes from being really exceptional at your job. Being uber competitive is great for business, but you have to back it up, because there is a certain point where no one bullshits. You can bullshit your way to even a senior manager position, but to become an executive director in the inner circle with the owner's ear, you can't. Oh some do and the destroy their companies, but its very rare.
But ultimately my personal drive comes from ego, I honestly believe that the money I earn is an inevitable conclusion that its rightfully mine, and that I'll take whatever abuse, hours, sacrifices willing to get it. I don't think, 'Oh, I'm not sure if I can be CEO, its too high for me', rather, whatever position I'm in, I never think its enough for what I should be doing. The only think that separates me from the richest out there is time and it may take me until I'm an angry old man at 72, but I'll have this knowledge that that is me.
This is very much the same mentality that some like Oprah Winfrey has as she has always been wildly successful even as young person, always moving forward to where she is not. It's a mistake to think that is attributed to your 'drive' which is largely based on will power (which is easily exhaustible), rather its a self image, that your suppost be eating at the Grand Hyatt and have a driver.
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On March 18 2011 12:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
is machine mode off for you?are you done with your tasks?
Machine mode got a malfunction and I only finished half my tasks because my wife came back with my son and I'm not that stupid not to realize that the time I spend with them, even if takes me out of Machine mode is not time well spent.
But I've kicked them out again for a few hours so I can finish off the rest of my work,
but damn does it feel good to get some major tasks out of the way.
I have about 3 hours left before I've fucked myself for next week though ^^
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On March 18 2011 03:43 L_Master wrote:
I just wanted to say thank you for this entire blog. Some exceptionally thoughtful answers and many useful takes on alot of topics. Some of what you said has really helped/inspired me to improve on some of my weak areas, with some greats thoughts on how to go about doing so. Your a sharp guy with a ton of experience and it's been great seeing how you approach so many facets of life.
I really appreciate it, thank you for putting in all this time and effort to make this blog so excellent!
^^ thanks, I try for my juniors at TL.
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A friend of mine is currently dating a Korean girl that is here in Canada on exchange. She leaves in one month and he really wants to score with her. He has described her as shy, but seems to be really into him. Any advice on how my friend can get with this girl before she returns to Korea? Anything specific to know / not do - he has said she seems traditional, very man-please-y.
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On March 18 2011 13:03 Salv wrote:
A friend of mine is currently dating a Korean girl that is here in Canada on exchange. She leaves in one month and he really wants to score with her. He has described her as shy, but seems to be really into him. Any advice on how my friend can get with this girl before she returns to Korea? Anything specific to know / not do - he has said she seems traditional, very man-please-y.
lol, I can't give you direct advice to destroy the virtue of a girl that maybe doesn't want her virtue to be destroyed. There are a lot of Korean girls that you can score with and some that you can't, and it's a pretty clear divide. If your friend has the latter and she has really made up her mind that because she is leaving she won't get sexually involved, by pressure seducing her (which is possible) you'll be fucking her up as she may actually think she is in love and get into some self romantic 'can't live without you, but must tragically leave' mode. So in any case, men are young, they want sex, they pressure women. Don't do that, its not worth it on your conscious later.
All, I can say is: your friend needs to make it clear that he doesn't want to score with her, and then hold her hand and make her comfortable and eventually if they start making out etc and when the opportunity does come up to score. don't do it. tell her that you guys shouldn't do this. then she will have a clear mind to decide whether or not she does really want to do it or not; as your friend wont' be pressuring her. Now this could be considered reverse psychology, but if she really is from a traditional family and has already made up her mind, she won't give in and just leave it at that and enjoy the make out session. If she does, then you've freed her from her social and mental restrictions and she can go back to Korea really ready to party ^^
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On March 18 2011 13:25 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 13:03 Salv wrote:
A friend of mine is currently dating a Korean girl that is here in Canada on exchange. She leaves in one month and he really wants to score with her. He has described her as shy, but seems to be really into him. Any advice on how my friend can get with this girl before she returns to Korea? Anything specific to know / not do - he has said she seems traditional, very man-please-y. lol, I can't give you direct advice to destroy the virtue of a girl that maybe doesn't want her virtue to be destroyed. There are a lot of Korean girls that you can score with and some that you can't, and it's a pretty clear divide. If your friend has the latter and she has really made up her mind that because she is leaving she won't get sexually involved, by pressure seducing her (which is possible) you'll be fucking her up as she may actually think she is in love and get into some self romantic 'can't live without you, but must tragically leave' mode. So in any case, men are young, they want sex, they pressure women. Don't do that, its not worth it on your conscious later. All, I can say is: your friend needs to make it clear that he doesn't want to score with her, and then hold her hand and make her comfortable and eventually if they start making out etc and when the opportunity does come up to score. don't do it. tell her that you guys shouldn't do this. then she will have a clear mind to decide whether or not she does really want to do it or not; as your friend wont' be pressuring her. Now this could be considered reverse psychology, but if she really is from a traditional family and has already made up her mind, she won't give in and just leave it at that and enjoy the make out session. If she does, then you've freed her from her social and mental restrictions and she can go back to Korea really ready to party ^^
Haha, I'l let him know. Nice answer.
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On March 18 2011 12:39 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 23:02 cArn- wrote:On March 16 2011 11:55 MightyAtom wrote:On March 16 2011 10:05 mizU wrote:
Have you ever hyung out with Artosis/John/Tasteless/Liquid players? Funny you should ask, I just went out with Naz, Jinro and Huk just a couple of days ago for dinner after Huk's win. I drove them home after the GSL game, we had about 6 servings of beef, 1 bottle of soju and 4 large bottle of beers and then we went for some more beers and Huk had his fruit salad punch. It was a very pleasant evening with an old guy like me, no crazy girly stuff when I go out, just like to eat as much nice food as possible. ^^ I've never had the chance to take out Artosis and Tasteless out for dinner, I'll be sure to do that the next time I see them, I know Tasteless well enough, but Artosis, we just know each other by face, but I did say hi to them that day as well. Generally in person I don't have much time, also I have a very low tolerance for bad manners so if I'm not introduced properly I generally won't introduce myself (thus I never formally met Idra, but we did speak in passing, I personally thought he was quite polite and pleasant in person). But I did ask to get introduced to TLO when he was here and got a picture taken with him and Jinro when they first came to Korea keke. In terms of gamers, I don't know if a lot of people know that I was involved with WCG challenge and the 1st WCG back in 1999-2001 respectively, and it's where I ended up meeting Giyom, Smuft, and Elky and then Rekrul over those early years. I was still the old guy then and the much older guy now as they were still teenagers keke (and I was taller by a bit then, now shortest by a lot lol). To this day, we're all very close like family. I also met Naz all those years ago and of course we're close as well, but he when on to back to Europe to do something called TeamLiquid, some horse breeding clan or something like that ^^. I did go to two TL meet ups over the years in Seoul. One was very small and was headed my myself and Rekrul, so it was fun keke and the other was this past year organized by lil'susie which was extremely fun as well because it was so huge. I would have gone to the last one, in Seoul, but unfortunately was in travel. I pretty fortunate though to be surround by such uniquely talented people in an industry which I do love and have a very personal connection to even though I'm a shit player (although put me on a Korean Girl Guide 4v4 money map and I'll show you whats up ^^ SC2 included keke) and I've also grown with them getting sucked into the poker industry along side their influence, again on the industry side (I'm a sucky poker player too, but I do have a major side event win to my name, keke). But the one thing I love about the TL community is the amount of talent and skill here. During the dinner I mentioned that Karl Marx said something along the lines of 'give me 10 men like Jesus and I can rule the world' and I said, 'put together 40 of the brightest minds at TL and I can direct them to do virtually anything' and Naz looks at me and says, 'damn that's a lot of talent right there' and I said, give me 40 of them, and we can do virtually anything ^^ wait weren't you with Jinro and Nazgul at the studio when HuK played his up & down match ? If you're talking about the fat Korean guy with the titlist cap sitting between Naz and Jin, yup that was me, sorry if I didn't introduce myself, I generally don't unless someone makes an introduction, but if you see me next time, say hi ^^
aah fuck I already felt bad for not introducing myself when I was talking to Jinro and Nazgul, now knowing that it was you makes it even worse :<
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On March 19 2011 00:18 cArn- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2011 12:39 MightyAtom wrote:On March 16 2011 23:02 cArn- wrote:On March 16 2011 11:55 MightyAtom wrote:On March 16 2011 10:05 mizU wrote:
Have you ever hyung out with Artosis/John/Tasteless/Liquid players? Funny you should ask, I just went out with Naz, Jinro and Huk just a couple of days ago for dinner after Huk's win. I drove them home after the GSL game, we had about 6 servings of beef, 1 bottle of soju and 4 large bottle of beers and then we went for some more beers and Huk had his fruit salad punch. It was a very pleasant evening with an old guy like me, no crazy girly stuff when I go out, just like to eat as much nice food as possible. ^^ I've never had the chance to take out Artosis and Tasteless out for dinner, I'll be sure to do that the next time I see them, I know Tasteless well enough, but Artosis, we just know each other by face, but I did say hi to them that day as well. Generally in person I don't have much time, also I have a very low tolerance for bad manners so if I'm not introduced properly I generally won't introduce myself (thus I never formally met Idra, but we did speak in passing, I personally thought he was quite polite and pleasant in person). But I did ask to get introduced to TLO when he was here and got a picture taken with him and Jinro when they first came to Korea keke. In terms of gamers, I don't know if a lot of people know that I was involved with WCG challenge and the 1st WCG back in 1999-2001 respectively, and it's where I ended up meeting Giyom, Smuft, and Elky and then Rekrul over those early years. I was still the old guy then and the much older guy now as they were still teenagers keke (and I was taller by a bit then, now shortest by a lot lol). To this day, we're all very close like family. I also met Naz all those years ago and of course we're close as well, but he when on to back to Europe to do something called TeamLiquid, some horse breeding clan or something like that ^^. I did go to two TL meet ups over the years in Seoul. One was very small and was headed my myself and Rekrul, so it was fun keke and the other was this past year organized by lil'susie which was extremely fun as well because it was so huge. I would have gone to the last one, in Seoul, but unfortunately was in travel. I pretty fortunate though to be surround by such uniquely talented people in an industry which I do love and have a very personal connection to even though I'm a shit player (although put me on a Korean Girl Guide 4v4 money map and I'll show you whats up ^^ SC2 included keke) and I've also grown with them getting sucked into the poker industry along side their influence, again on the industry side (I'm a sucky poker player too, but I do have a major side event win to my name, keke). But the one thing I love about the TL community is the amount of talent and skill here. During the dinner I mentioned that Karl Marx said something along the lines of 'give me 10 men like Jesus and I can rule the world' and I said, 'put together 40 of the brightest minds at TL and I can direct them to do virtually anything' and Naz looks at me and says, 'damn that's a lot of talent right there' and I said, give me 40 of them, and we can do virtually anything ^^ wait weren't you with Jinro and Nazgul at the studio when HuK played his up & down match ? If you're talking about the fat Korean guy with the titlist cap sitting between Naz and Jin, yup that was me, sorry if I didn't introduce myself, I generally don't unless someone makes an introduction, but if you see me next time, say hi ^^ aah fuck I already felt bad for not introducing myself when I was talking to Jinro and Nazgul, now knowing that it was you makes it even worse :<
^^ no worries, like I said, I usually don't meet people unless introduced anyway, so don't feel bad at all, just introduce yourself the next time we see each other (which would be the next time Naz is in Korea ^^) or at a TL meet up in Korea. Sorry as well for not being more friendly in public!
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have you done acid? was it ever popular in korea?
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On March 20 2011 03:44 qdenser wrote:
have you done acid? was it ever popular in korea?
Never did acid, and no drug is popular in Korea because the laws are very strict regarding any type of drugs so native Koreans have extremely limited exposure to drugs in general, if you ask them if they would smoke pot, they look at you if you were the devil in person. Celebrities who have picked up the habit of smoking pot from their overseas exposure, once caught had their careers destroyed or completely sidetracked. Many Korean Americans smuggle weed into Korea over the summer and winter months, but I'm sure its a lot less now due to full body screening.
I've never done acid because you can have a possible bad trip. As I've been told you need to control your environment, but you can still get caught on a bad thought and bang, you have a bad trip. Why would you do a drug that could possibly give you a bad trip is one part, and the send part is, the distortion of reality in that way, it wasn't ever appealing to me because I did hear a lot of stories of people having flashbacks (exaggerated possibility, but back then we didn't have the internet to immediately check up on it).
But I don't think you should do anything that makes you lose complete control or that you need to be dependent upon, whether it is smoking or alcohol, great sex in a bad relationship etc...
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So alright.
I'm not doing that well in school right now. I have been putting a lot of time into my studies, but in a couple classes (Advanced chem, and Calculus) I have been having a lot of difficulty. Recently I've simply burned out. I feel like I can't put in any more time. Besides, it seems to me, all that past time didn't do much. It has to do with efficiency. My parents are certainly being inflammatory, but this weekend it seems as if I've hit a wall, and I really want to do well. But I still haven't done much over the weekend. This is the first time this has really happened. What should I do to keep on moving forwards?
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On March 21 2011 14:41 Froadac wrote:
So alright.
I'm not doing that well in school right now. I have been putting a lot of time into my studies, but in a couple classes (Advanced chem, and Calculus) I have been having a lot of difficulty. Recently I've simply burned out. I feel like I can't put in any more time. Besides, it seems to me, all that past time didn't do much. It has to do with efficiency. My parents are certainly being inflammatory, but this weekend it seems as if I've hit a wall, and I really want to do well. But I still haven't done much over the weekend. This is the first time this has really happened. What should I do to keep on moving forwards?
last post for a while in this thread as soon as Mani locks it down, but to address your post.
1. Sometimes your mind needs time to assimilate what you've learned. For instance, if you take a test and you still haven't learned the material properly, its a freaking gong show of a process as you try to apply concepts, that you haven't fully mastered, to the problem, while simultaneously doing the required mechanics to get the answer down accurately.
Ask yourself, before you write your exams, do you really know the concepts down cold?
2. Sometimes you need to ease your course load. It's a bitch to make it up during your summer break, but when you get to a point where you feel you're burning out, you're just not effective at anything and that isn't going to change over night.
3. Take a full weekend off and spend 1 full day on each subject separately and ask multiple friends how do what they are doing to come in for an hour and help you through each section. You need to get some kind of progress/ some kind of win to get through this obstacle.
4.Will power isn't enough, especially if you are demoralized. Even if you take time off to relax, you won't because this will be hanging over your head. Don't beat yourself up, but make a clear schedule and again, do number 3 with some friends to help tutor you through some concepts you're having trouble with, even if it is the same concept for the 1 hour, you need to know you can progress.
But to start:
Just clear your mind and go out for walk, doesn't matter how long, but just get some space (walk carefully, you may feel very distracted), just breath deeply and just try to feel as stable and fresh as you can without all the stress and strain you've built up to this point. I know, you don't want to do this because you feel all the crap hanging over your head and you dont' feel justified in taking more time, but just know, this is your last break before you fully get into it, so think of it more like just getting enough blood circulation before you really hit the books.
Fully wash your face, do five push ups, drink a cold cool glass of water. Then open your text book and start from where you do understand the material, and then proceed to work through all the example questions and see if you can replicate the results, and don't move on until you can replicate the example exactly without flaw and then keep going until are confident you know the basics. A lot of the anxiety is because you aren't able to do anything that seems like progress, but even if it copying out the examples, to start, do something which adds to your understanding.
When you feel tired, wash your face again, do five push ups and drink bit of water and do it until you get some kind of feeling of understanding. You'll know it when it happens.
After that, go back and do all the text book practice questions, do all the ones you can. If you can't do it at that point, circle it and move on and take it up with your friends when you see them next week end or even tomorrow night.
You just need 1 break through to get back on track. Trust me on that.
Cheers
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Hey,
I'm in Zurich right now, meetings etc. But since I am still jet lagged, I have 2 hours every morning to write before I start my actual work. So, while this thread is something like 3 years old or something, I said one day I'd re-open it. So it's open!
Please try to read through the thread first before asking me something, my thoughts haven't changed. I've been outside of Korean now for nearly 4 years, so maybe there are things different now; I mean even I have 2 kids now instead of 1 lol.
Last off, I will be sincere in my responses, give me some time to respond though because my schedule is far more busier than it's ever been and I'm not as robust as I use to be, it has been an extremely rough rough 3 years. I'm staying in Zurich until Monday, so you have until Monday evening to ask until I fly out and this thread gets locked again for another 3 years. ^^
But I do want to say...for those who think they don't need an older brother or that kind of figure, I'm not trying to be that for everyone and say, hey I know all, listen to me,-I'm not here because I need anyone's respect or need to feed my ego- reality is I have very very few close friends as a choice- but for those who need a hyung's advice, I will be your hyung here on TL for as much as I can be.
MightyAtom in Zurich Jan 29, 2014
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cool, I look forward to it
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Dear Mighty Atom Hyung, now is a good time to ask for guidance.
A beginning is a very delicate time reads the introduction to the movie dune, I soon have the opportunity to begin anew and I don't want to mess it up.
I am moving, moving out of reach of my bad tempered toxic stepmother and my distant father who, in his troubled relationship, remains apologetic and has resigned himself to maintaining a soul crushing status quo.
I grew up in a town in nothern bavaria, my parents divorced when I was 10, i stayed with my wonderful mother, a freelance feldenkrais teacher, her boyfriend was very nice too.I had a strong supportive social circle around school and drama club.Waking up used to cause me joy in anticipation.. daily I basked in appreciation.It was fun!
I was 16 in 2008 when my mother died in a motorcycle accident.My lifes story is too long to tell so I will skip out on the details.I made a bad decision then by agreeing to move away from all the support and everything I held dear.The short version:
For years I was lonely and very sad, I did not continue my education after secondary school.I felt I had reached a limit and could no longer step forward.I stopped seeing my closest friends and barely spoke to anyone.I did not want to show my broken self.To keep my soul alive I did my best to distract myself with excessive online-gaming (hello teamliquid) and snowboarding.
present day present time
I live in san ramon california, I am 22 years old young and I feel the strength and urge to move forward again; my great-aunt has agreed to house me for next to nothing (150$ a month and much cheaper than what I've been paying my father).She is giving me a peaceful home for 2-3 years before a renegotiation of terms.
Where do I take it from here? I want to be financially independent, secure, happy and fullfilled one day.My nightshift-gas-station job won't cut it in the long run.I can attend the local community college later this year when I become a californian resident but I will have to take student loans as I do not have large amounts of savings.What degree am I getting, is this the best way?
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On January 29 2014 21:35 vaL4r wrote:
cool, I look forward to it
edit 2/2/2014
Dear Mighty Atom Hyung, now is a good time to ask for guidance.
A beginning is a very delicate time reads the introduction to the movie dune, I soon have the opportunity to begin anew and I don't want to mess it up.
I am moving, moving out of reach of my bad tempered toxic stepmother and my distant father who, in his troubled relationship, remains apologetic and has resigned himself to maintaining a soul crushing status quo.
I grew up in a town in nothern bavaria, my parents divorced when I was 10, i stayed with my wonderful mother, a freelance feldenkrais teacher, her boyfriend was very nice too.I had a strong supportive social circle around school and drama club.Waking up used to cause me joy in anticipation.. daily I basked in appreciation.It was fun!
I was 16 in 2008 when my mother died in a motorcycle accident.My lifes story is too long to tell so I will skip out on the details.I made a bad decision then by agreeing to move away from all the support and everything I held dear.The short version:
For years I was lonely and very sad, I did not continue my education after secondary school.I felt I had reached a limit and could no longer step forward.I stopped seeing my closest friends and barely spoke to anyone.I did not want to show my broken self.To keep my soul alive I did my best to distract myself with excessive online-gaming (hello teamliquid) and snowboarding.
present day present time
I live in san ramon california, I am 22 years old young and I feel the strength and urge to move forward again; my great-aunt has agreed to house me for next to nothing (150$ a month and much cheaper than what I've been paying my father).She is giving me a peaceful home for 2-3 years before a renegotiation of terms.
Where do I take it from here? I want to be financially independent, secure, happy and fullfilled one day.My nightshift-gas-station job won't cut it in the long run.I can attend the local community college later this year when I become a californian resident but I will have to take student loans as I do not have large amounts of savings.What degree am I getting, is this the best way?
Ok, #1, great that you've decided to move on, 22 is still young, I still didn't get my shit together until I was about 29, so you have time ^^. You always need to think, whether you have it made by 25 or 28 or even 30, does it fucking matter when when you're 35? It doesn't, only that you have made it in the way you want.
The main issue is that: when you're 22 and you don't have a lot of exposure to what careers are really out there, you tend to think there a very little options. The main thing I would think comes down to two things: an education that can lead to a job that has a progression to move up or an education in something you are passionate about. The former, I think is simply a practical step, just get the mentality of taking small deliberate steps, not massive leaps, but I'm also not saying to settle, pick a great direction, but take the small solid steps to get there.
Take the student loans, and study like a motherfucker, just focus on learning and being the best in your class. take those grads, get a scholarship or the best internship you can and just take it from there.
In terms of what to do, I'd say going into chef school or a trade comes to mind first, but if you have any love of food, I'd think that being a chef, while difficult has some career path anywhere you go. Other than that, even going for your CPA and working your way up is another good way, even doing taxes may be a bore, but you can always do more later on. I'd also say, programming is very solid, while you may seem behind in the game, catching up is all up to you. Additionally being a graphic or video designer/editor are also options.
I hope you can take this as a start and I'd want you to keep me posted, send me a pm every 6 months or so, and even if I take a couple of months to get back to you, I will (sorry I just travel and work that much).
But most of all, the fact that you are moving on- that is everything- all you need to do is be your own man, and the rest you'll figure out as you go along- cause if you have enough balls to do that, you have enough to make it.
Best
MA
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