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On February 25 2011 16:27 cArn- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 14:32 MightyAtom wrote:On February 25 2011 13:56 SkyLegenD wrote: Hyung, can you give us a brief background of yourself? I see from another blog post of yours that you attended Korea University and currently work in Seoul, but you have superb English and know quite a lot about Western culture. [...] But I am Korean, not native Korean, not overseas Korean, just Korean who loves all things Korean and French! keke. Oh that's something I missed reading some of your blogs, didn't know you had such strong relation to France. I'm French and love everything I found out about Korea, you seem to be someone I'dd really love to meet
Great, when I have a moment we can have tl meet up in Seoul and I'll get Giyom to come out. Yes, I love all things French and Korean, but of course I most at home in Korea, but if I had to be exiled, I would chose to be exiled to France (not Quebec, its just to damn cold!)
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On February 25 2011 16:32 Homework wrote: Hyung, tell me... ~I have girl troubles~
This girl that I'm with is fantastic, and I've been with her for a little over a year, but I wonder if I'm missing out on anything. So I imagine myself in relationships with other people. What do? Help me, Mighty-Wan-Kenobi, you're my only hope.
There comes a point where the life you share with another takes on a separate life of its own and will always be incomparable to the excitement and life with a new person.
For instance, lets say you and your girl were trapped in a snowstorm and you both survived it and traveled for 3 days, that kind of experience takes on a life of its own;
or else, you have visited 10 different countries together and you've shared new life experiences together.
These kinds of things are the uniqued share life between you both, and so even if you do flirt with other women, your heart is with her.
NOW, if you do the same gf/bf crap day in and day out and she is a great companion, the this is at some level interchangeable, there can be a 'better' companion out there who matches you better in personality and interests. And for young men it is 100% NATURAL to feel this way, its not like this woman is your soul mate (or not that you can tell at this point).
so 2 points about it;
if you love her, forge again and concentrate on sharing your lives together
or
take some time off, not as separation, but go off on a trip for month to a foreign country and meet new people, don't cheat on her, but if you're having a ton of fun, you don't even think about her or miss her, then you still need to explore the world my friend and while she has been fanastic to you, you still need to see more of the world and people.
And this could lead to really appreciated her even more.
I'll say this, before marriage, I'd say, no matter how seriously you take the relationship, until you're married, its not like you're lives will be so intertwined that what you do with her, the joy and the fun and the sex, couldn't be equally done or more so with someone else.
But when you really make a life together, and you really love her more than any woman you think you could, not cause she is the best looking or treats you the best, but you really know her as if you know yourself and you have this really shared life, then there is no thoughts of being with others (although as men, there are alway such thoughts, but not taken seriously).
Let me give you an example of a gf/bf type of knowing and a real marriage/love type knowing.
A gf/bf will know everything about each other, what they like and don't like, if they did a quiz on a thousand things on what the other person likes or doesn't like, then they would score 100%
But, what if that quiz had things that the other gf/bf didn't ever experience, like going to italy, or buying this type of clothes or eating this new food.
A couple with a shared life, would know whether or not, their partner would like it or not even if they other hand never experienced it.
If I eat a new flavour of icecream, and my wife hasn't tasted it before, I know her so well as to say, she will like it or not, and how much she will like it. My level of knowing my wife is at such a deeper level then the top 50 things my life likes to do, I could watch 50 new movies by myself and rate them in order of what my wife would rate them as and vice versa.
that comes from a truly shared life.
So don't feel like a heel, rather be honest and of course, make a decision that will make things clearer for you.
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On February 25 2011 19:44 Rekrul wrote: Do as any true Korean man would do, fiddle around behind her back and don't let her find out!
lol any young Korean man
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On February 25 2011 22:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote: When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?
Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries? Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians. If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as; being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner. so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks, In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves. So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American. Ah Korean girls from Western countries: big question but here goes: North America: East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature. Or, Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot. West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic. You could travel the world, But nothin' comes close, To the golden coast! Once you party with u-us, you'll be fallin' in love! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're unforgettable, Daisy dukes, bikinis on top! Sunkissed skin, So hot we'll melt your popsicle! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're undeniable, Fine, fresh, fierce, We got it on lock! West coast represent, now put your hands up! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America. Europe: The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed. Japan: Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese. but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior. China: there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!) Russia: They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell! Australia/NZ Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally. ^^ Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs! Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans? I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong. Sorry, but I have to step in and say that sentiment is just plain misguided. There's no such thing as fully Chinese. You should take pride in your Chinese heritage, realize "Chinese" is a mishmash of different ethnicities, and that there is no such thing as "full Chinese." Or even Han ethnicity. If you study any of your people's history you will know that Chinese people killed each other for centuries and that there are countless tribes and clans and peoples, that's why in Guangdong alone, there are so many ethnic groups, Teo Chow, Kejia, Guangdong ren, etc. and that among Chinese people, there are many provinces that do not like each other. Fuzhou ren are not much liked, neither are Shaanxi people, etc. Han is just some idea espoused for the sake of political unity, but it has no basis in reality. Chinese is membership in an empire, not an ethnic group. It is way too late for Chinese to go back and try to divide themselves into categories of purity. Too much history and mixtures by now. And there will always be plenty of dumbass ignorant Chinese out there who will say things like "Oh, you speak with an accent, so you're not full Chinese," and other stupid things like that, but it is your fault if you are going to listen to the words of fools. As a student of Chinese history, I get really annoyed with the ignorant garbage many Chinese people spout, mostly from stupid Chinese mothers who have never opened a book and have very strange perverse notions about Chinese culture and history that seem to be based more on racism and retardation rather than any basis in reality. And Mainland Chinese are often even more ignorant due to the propaganda and brainwashing they have had from their gov't.
Chinese are more accepting of people being chinese if you declare yourself chinese, but its a different situation when you are an immigrant family living in America. To associate yourself with being Asian is the easiest thing to do because for most Asian Americans, they don't know enough about their mother culture to really say that they are chinese or korean American; even though they may have yellow pride.
I think the first thing to say is that, when in Rome do as the Romans and if you do want to understand more about your heritage and make it part of your identity, take a year off to live in the mother land and
if you truly want to make a clear sense of your identity, take a couple of years off and work in your motherland.
Otherwise, being 'Asian American' is probably the best designation you could give yourself without having a single deep knowledge of your heritage that isn't just provided by your parents or your other friends who are as culturally unexposed to the actual motherland culture.
But had I stayed in Canada and in Montreal, I think I would have been a full on Montrealer who's heritage was Korean but was fully French Canadian, as I wouldn't have had the exposure to actually integrate my heritage into an expressionable identity other than to say, hey I'm yellow, you yellow, we in Canada, so we Asian Canadians. ^^
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On February 26 2011 02:16 ptbl wrote: How can I meet a nice Korean Buddhist girl in Korea? Eventually, I need to settle down, so I hope to marry a korean girl and help me do jaesa. Unfortunately, most Koreans I know in the United States are Christian.
The reason why most Koreans are Christian in the US is because the social support system for new immigrants was set up through the immigrant Korean churches, so to not attend church was to basically be cut off from any support.
But in Korea, this not the case, but Buddhist here regularly complain about the aggressive tendencies of the Korean churches, but Buddhism has been around a long time in Korea, so the major Buddhist sects are strong in organization and in financial property;
so when you come to Korea, I'd suggest you join the most wealthy or biggest Buddhist temple in Seoul and then join the registry. There you will eventually get introduced to and meet other nice pious Buddhist girls, but most Korean girls who are Buddhists are not regular temple goers, rather their parents are and they exist as being a Buddhist insofar as they haven't converted to Christianity or any religion. Buddhists in Korea don't mind Christians, but the Christians are actively trying to convert the Buddhists.
If you have family here who attend temple then go with them and introduce you to family friends from the temple, it is critical you get this introductions; just doing random meetings will lead to much of them being disqualified because they are Christian or of no religious affiliation.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 26 2011 17:22 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 16:32 Homework wrote: Hyung, tell me... ~I have girl troubles~
This girl that I'm with is fantastic, and I've been with her for a little over a year, but I wonder if I'm missing out on anything. So I imagine myself in relationships with other people. What do? Help me, Mighty-Wan-Kenobi, you're my only hope. There comes a point where the life you share with another takes on a separate life of its own and will always be incomparable to the excitement and life with a new person. For instance, lets say you and your girl were trapped in a snowstorm and you both survived it and traveled for 3 days, that kind of experience takes on a life of its own; or else, you have visited 10 different countries together and you've shared new life experiences together. These kinds of things are the uniqued share life between you both, and so even if you do flirt with other women, your heart is with her. NOW, if you do the same gf/bf crap day in and day out and she is a great companion, the this is at some level interchangeable, there can be a 'better' companion out there who matches you better in personality and interests. And for young men it is 100% NATURAL to feel this way, its not like this woman is your soul mate (or not that you can tell at this point). so 2 points about it; if you love her, forge again and concentrate on sharing your lives together or take some time off, not as separation, but go off on a trip for month to a foreign country and meet new people, don't cheat on her, but if you're having a ton of fun, you don't even think about her or miss her, then you still need to explore the world my friend and while she has been fanastic to you, you still need to see more of the world and people. And this could lead to really appreciated her even more. I'll say this, before marriage, I'd say, no matter how seriously you take the relationship, until you're married, its not like you're lives will be so intertwined that what you do with her, the joy and the fun and the sex, couldn't be equally done or more so with someone else. But when you really make a life together, and you really love her more than any woman you think you could, not cause she is the best looking or treats you the best, but you really know her as if you know yourself and you have this really shared life, then there is no thoughts of being with others (although as men, there are alway such thoughts, but not taken seriously). Let me give you an example of a gf/bf type of knowing and a real marriage/love type knowing. A gf/bf will know everything about each other, what they like and don't like, if they did a quiz on a thousand things on what the other person likes or doesn't like, then they would score 100% But, what if that quiz had things that the other gf/bf didn't ever experience, like going to italy, or buying this type of clothes or eating this new food. A couple with a shared life, would know whether or not, their partner would like it or not even if they other hand never experienced it. If I eat a new flavour of icecream, and my wife hasn't tasted it before, I know her so well as to say, she will like it or not, and how much she will like it. My level of knowing my wife is at such a deeper level then the top 50 things my life likes to do, I could watch 50 new movies by myself and rate them in order of what my wife would rate them as and vice versa. that comes from a truly shared life. So don't feel like a heel, rather be honest and of course, make a decision that will make things clearer for you. ^^
Thank you so much!
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On February 26 2011 10:26 The_LiNk wrote: Just a general question to Hyung.
What are a man's obligations to society?
I'm not into the entire Confucian levels of responsibility, but
1. take care of your wife and children first and love them first 2. be a true friend and destroy anyone who would harm them 3. prepare to protect your country to the death 4. Always be kind and patient to any child 5. never let the rabble lead, be a leader (although this gets fucked up when everyone wants to be the leader and not everyone is qualified)
Now, its nothing with some great vision, but do this and the rest will work itself out, including taking care your parents when they know that they are second to your wife and child.
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This is somewhat related to every other blog you've posted, but how did you find your calling in life (professionally)?
I am at a point in my life where I am comfortable with myself and I understand myself (25 years old). I know my strengths, I know my weaknesses, I know my maturity level. For me, the most important aspect of a career is that I am looking for a challenge, looking to constantly be able to learn a lot, and looking for peers who are equally ambitious and talented, Coming from an accounting background, I definitely felt a shortfall in the challenge part and peers of equal ambition. My thinking is investment banking, but I am only thinking that because it will give me the most flexibility in the future (I'll get broader industry exposure, develop useful general skills, be able to build a strong network, etc). I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
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O Mightyatom, how did u first get associated with TL.net? love all your writings so far, u and rekrul should author a book together about the life and times of both of your exploits in korea.
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I don't need your help anymore! My life is eZ. i stomp kk thanks a lot for your help before <3
personal question: is it better to be a jack of all trades or master of a few. I have many hobbies.
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any black people in Korea lol I wouldn't think so and how are they treated the same as Caucasian or worse ?
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why is yonsei so much better than koryo? LOOLOLOLOLOL + Show Spoiler +jk ty for the drinks you and rekrul bought last TL korea meet
Real Question: Im 21, all my friends are graduating from college now and unfortunately for me I'm still terrible at my major and ever since I was a kid all I wanted was to be a cartoon artist yet that dream is so far away from me now. I'm now kinda panicking because I don't know what the hell to do with my life and I'm afraid Im going to hate my job in the long run
WHAT I DO
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On February 26 2011 17:23 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 19:44 Rekrul wrote: Do as any true Korean man would do, fiddle around behind her back and don't let her find out! lol any young Korean man
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young Korean men fiddle around without any regard for anything often resulting in disaster
true grown korean men have golf gear and it isn't for long drives
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So what is your definition of success Mr. MightyAtom?
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Who's your favorite author? What are the fundamental experiences you think one should get out of college/university life? Will you teach your son to be super-competitive and let him be acclimated to the competition in Korea? How do I stop procrastinating? T_T That is, how do I set up an environment where it's structured around work?
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On February 25 2011 13:33 MightyAtom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 12:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:On February 24 2011 15:07 MightyAtom wrote:On February 24 2011 14:31 Smuft wrote: What is the difference between a typical Korean women compared to a typical North American women in terms of how they relate with men? Ah Smufty, ok, 1. Korean woman will generally concern about the man first and not expect equal treatment in bed 2. Both are very passionate in bed 3. Korean women will try to look pretty for their man, Westerns not as much 4. Korean women expect to be pampered and not to pay for anything, western women are willing to dutch and even take care of the man, but of course even if a western woman says they want equality through equal paying of costs, they usually can be convinced to accept to be financially taken care of. 5. Korean women know that a man's strength comes from controlled silence, but western women don't see it as such and thus would mistake that for being passive, when in fact they are very nearly close to death but don't realize it as such. 6. Both will nag you to death 7. Western women wont' have as high of material expectations and don't need to be as pampered, but if you do pamper them they will quickly take it for granted. For a Korean girl, they will know that they are lucky and will protect you from all other women and even friends until you are married. 8. There are both the crazy and dramatic type (high maintenance on both ends), but the Korean woman will stop if the man gets angry enough, but the western will not or push it further. 9. Korean women are more likely to stalk you after breaking up, I'd say about 100% more chance as they tend to think of you as their possession as well. 10. Korean women will very intensely passionate immediately as soon as they decide you are their man, there is no first, second, third base if they feel you are there man; so many less sexual and relationship hang ups, but Westerns in general tend to have more hang ups and are more conservative in love making (but perhaps more animalistic and savage though) But for the most part, if you were to compare Korean women to western women, out of all the Asian women, i would say that Korean women are the most similar in temperament in their passion and aggressiveness. To be honestly, I think Korean women make the perfect lovers and wives, and general companions, but they will treat you like a possession as well. Cross them and they will have their revenge. What I like about western women though is they can truly be honest loving women who's independence allows them to be lovers as well as friends. I can't say that many Korean men are friends with their Korean lovers/wives. Lol wow such a good analysis. My long-term gf is Vietnamese, but born in the USA and she's Exactly like how you described a Western woman. Including the friend part at the end. You are good MA-hyung ^^ Vietnamese are very very beautiful and lovely women and I hear they treat their man well, but if you cross them they will main you.
That is so true, Vietnamese women are nice, but if you fuck with them, they will kill you. Twice.
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Do Koreans consider themselves the "best" of East Asia? Not without reason, what with the hallyu wave quickly engulfing global pop culture, but I sense that Koreans think they are the best in nearly all aspects.
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On February 27 2011 04:16 buickskylark wrote: Do Koreans consider themselves the "best" of East Asia? Not without reason, what with the hallyu wave quickly engulfing global pop culture, but I sense that Koreans think they are the best in nearly all aspects.
Honestly, I thought about this too. After reflexion, I figured that their incredible economic growth and booming culture makes them feel less "country-like" like most of the south-east asia countries.
As a Vietnamese, I always had the feeling that Asians don't like to be "country-like". Once you are filthy rich and don't live in a bamboo house, you start to look down the others and feel superior. This applies to any Asian country, but since Korea is getting motherf*cking rich these days, they probably have this feeling ten-fold.
I could be super wrong about this, it's just the way I see things
Also, woaaah you grew up in Montreal? Awesooome, when you'll be famous and have your own sect I'll say that I grew up in the same city as you. What do you think of McGill? 50% of asians at McGill are Chinese and 49% are koreans lol, you guys are invading the world.
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On February 27 2011 04:25 PetitCrabe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 04:16 buickskylark wrote: Do Koreans consider themselves the "best" of East Asia? Not without reason, what with the hallyu wave quickly engulfing global pop culture, but I sense that Koreans think they are the best in nearly all aspects. Honestly, I thought about this too. After reflexion, I figured that their incredible economic growth and booming culture makes them feel less "country-like" like most of the south-east asia countries. As a Vietnamese, I always had the feeling that Asians don't like to be "country-like". Once you are filthy rich and don't live in a bamboo house, you start to look down the others and feel superior. This applies to any Asian country, but since Korea is getting motherf*cking rich these days, they probably have this feeling ten-fold. I could be super wrong about this, it's just the way I see things Also, woaaah you grew up in Montreal? Awesooome, when you'll be famous and have your own sect I'll say that I grew up in the same city as you. What do you think of McGill? 50% of asians at McGill are Chinese and 49% are koreans lol, you guys are invading the world.
It's just a classic case of the grass being greener on the other side. Look at America nowadays. Everyone's got suburban malaise and wants to be hipster green thumb organic farmers. I can't tell you how many fucking kids I meet in New York who talk about their dream of owning a farm upstate and one day selling hydroponic hand-watered organic alfalfa sprouts grown on pure sunshine and Mozart.
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On February 27 2011 05:02 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 04:25 PetitCrabe wrote:On February 27 2011 04:16 buickskylark wrote: Do Koreans consider themselves the "best" of East Asia? Not without reason, what with the hallyu wave quickly engulfing global pop culture, but I sense that Koreans think they are the best in nearly all aspects. Honestly, I thought about this too. After reflexion, I figured that their incredible economic growth and booming culture makes them feel less "country-like" like most of the south-east asia countries. As a Vietnamese, I always had the feeling that Asians don't like to be "country-like". Once you are filthy rich and don't live in a bamboo house, you start to look down the others and feel superior. This applies to any Asian country, but since Korea is getting motherf*cking rich these days, they probably have this feeling ten-fold. I could be super wrong about this, it's just the way I see things Also, woaaah you grew up in Montreal? Awesooome, when you'll be famous and have your own sect I'll say that I grew up in the same city as you. What do you think of McGill? 50% of asians at McGill are Chinese and 49% are koreans lol, you guys are invading the world. It's just a classic case of the grass being greener on the other side. Look at America nowadays. Everyone's got suburban malaise and wants to be hipster green thumb organic farmers. I can't tell you how many fucking kids I meet in New York who talk about their dream of owning a farm upstate and one day selling hydroponic hand-watered organic alfalfa sprouts grown on pure sunshine and Mozart.
this made me lol a lot, so true, even my uncle now wants a farm
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