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The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 06:09:54
February 25 2011 05:57 GMT
#201
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On February 25 2011 14:52 MightyAtom wrote:
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On February 25 2011 14:33 The_LiNk wrote:
MightyAtom Hyung is Canadian! Ho ying ar! (So Cool!)

What schools in Canada? Your opinion on Canadian post secondary institutions compared to Asia?

Most importantly, the views of Asian Asians on North American Asians with North American university education (non Ivey, especially Canadian)

2nd edit: Funny I wrote Ivey, I mean Ivy League.


Earl Haig S.S.

U of M (long fucking story, graduated a year early via transferring out of Haig and doing summer school and going to a semestered school for a year - was going to travel...sigh...)

U of T (grad)

Canadian universities are among the best in the world, easy to get into, fucking hard to graduate from.

I can only speak for Korea, but not Ivy, just whatever, but they know U of T and the other top US schools. So you get a nod, but nothing more than that. But Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT, hero worship, lol even Stanford, you don't get that level of love, but definite respect, but don't expect any oohs and awes from being from a Canadian school.

But one thing, in Korea and in Asia, we dont' call ourselves Asian, we dont' have that kind of understanding, we are either Korean, or Chinese or Japanese etc, the only people who call themselves Asian in Asia are the Singaporeans, but since they have no influence in East Asia (except in major commercial real estate transactions), we tend to think that is cute.



What a god. So much wisdom and life experience to learn from. You're like... a Dai Gor(Big Brother-Chinese equivalent of Hyung?) that isn't moronic, all mine are.

Your path is sort of the path I want to walk, only Hong Kong/Chinese version (looking out for Korea though, like I said Korea>China)... and in finance... without the long story part either.

Oh ya just came into my head. The area around Early Haig is now the universally accepted unofficial second Korea town.
thebteam
Profile Joined January 2011
United States95 Posts
February 25 2011 06:09 GMT
#202
Hyung, how do you motivate yourself to be more ambitious? I feel like I have lived most of my life by just doing enough to get by without really excelling. I will be starting at EY this summer, and I am already apprehensive of the working grind. Since you also worked at a Big 4 accounting firm, is there any advice that you would give to be successful?
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
February 25 2011 06:19 GMT
#203
I have a question for you, might be kind of personal though.

Q: From your comments above I assume you believe in God. What lead you to believe in God?
SkyLegenD
Profile Joined February 2010
United States304 Posts
February 25 2011 06:57 GMT
#204
Hyung, when is it acceptable to lie to:

1)parents
2)close friend
3)gf/wife
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." - Napoleon Bonaparte
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 25 2011 07:26 GMT
#205
What's your opinion on the Chinese? What exactly is Korea's relationship with China? How does a Korean man and a Chinese man differ?
Rillanon.au
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 08:10:59
February 25 2011 07:27 GMT
#206
On February 25 2011 14:32 MightyAtom wrote:
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On February 25 2011 13:56 SkyLegenD wrote:
Hyung, can you give us a brief background of yourself? I see from another blog post of yours that you attended Korea University and currently work in Seoul, but you have superb English and know quite a lot about Western culture.


[...]
But I am Korean, not native Korean, not overseas Korean, just Korean who loves all things Korean and French! keke.



Oh that's something I missed reading some of your blogs, didn't know you had such strong relation to France. I'm French and love everything I found out about Korea, you seem to be someone I'dd really love to meet
Twitter : http://twitter.com/CARNDARAK
Homework
Profile Joined December 2010
United States283 Posts
February 25 2011 07:32 GMT
#207
Hyung, tell me...
~I have girl troubles~

This girl that I'm with is fantastic, and I've been with her for a little over a year, but I wonder if I'm missing out on anything. So I imagine myself in relationships with other people. What do?
Help me, Mighty-Wan-Kenobi, you're my only hope.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 25 2011 10:44 GMT
#208
Do as any true Korean man would do, fiddle around behind her back and don't let her find out!
why so 진지해?
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 25 2011 13:12 GMT
#209
On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?

Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries?


Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians.
If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as;
being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner.
so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks,

In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves.

So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American.


Ah Korean girls from Western countries:
big question but here goes:

North America:
East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature.
Or,
Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot.

West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic.

You could travel the world,
But nothin' comes close,
To the golden coast!
Once you party with u-us,
you'll be fallin' in love!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

California girls, we're unforgettable,
Daisy dukes, bikinis on top!
Sunkissed skin,
So hot we'll melt your popsicle!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

California girls, we're undeniable,
Fine, fresh, fierce,
We got it on lock!
West coast represent, now put your hands up!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America.


Europe:
The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed.

Japan:
Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese.
but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior.

China:
there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!)

Russia:
They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell!

Australia/NZ
Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally.

^^



Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs!
Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans?

I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong.


Sorry, but I have to step in and say that sentiment is just plain misguided. There's no such thing as fully Chinese. You should take pride in your Chinese heritage, realize "Chinese" is a mishmash of different ethnicities, and that there is no such thing as "full Chinese." Or even Han ethnicity. If you study any of your people's history you will know that Chinese people killed each other for centuries and that there are countless tribes and clans and peoples, that's why in Guangdong alone, there are so many ethnic groups, Teo Chow, Kejia, Guangdong ren, etc. and that among Chinese people, there are many provinces that do not like each other. Fuzhou ren are not much liked, neither are Shaanxi people, etc. Han is just some idea espoused for the sake of political unity, but it has no basis in reality. Chinese is membership in an empire, not an ethnic group. It is way too late for Chinese to go back and try to divide themselves into categories of purity. Too much history and mixtures by now.

And there will always be plenty of dumbass ignorant Chinese out there who will say things like "Oh, you speak with an accent, so you're not full Chinese," and other stupid things like that, but it is your fault if you are going to listen to the words of fools. As a student of Chinese history, I get really annoyed with the ignorant garbage many Chinese people spout, mostly from stupid Chinese mothers who have never opened a book and have very strange perverse notions about Chinese culture and history that seem to be based more on racism and retardation rather than any basis in reality. And Mainland Chinese are often even more ignorant due to the propaganda and brainwashing they have had from their gov't.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 25 2011 13:21 GMT
#210
On February 25 2011 14:40 MightyAtom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 14:06 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On February 25 2011 13:33 MightyAtom wrote:
On February 25 2011 12:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On February 24 2011 15:07 MightyAtom wrote:
On February 24 2011 14:31 Smuft wrote:
What is the difference between a typical Korean women compared to a typical North American women in terms of how they relate with men?


Ah Smufty, ok,

1. Korean woman will generally concern about the man first and not expect equal treatment in bed
2. Both are very passionate in bed
3. Korean women will try to look pretty for their man, Westerns not as much
4. Korean women expect to be pampered and not to pay for anything, western women are willing to dutch and even take care of the man, but of course even if a western woman says they want equality through equal paying of costs, they usually can be convinced to accept to be financially taken care of.
5. Korean women know that a man's strength comes from controlled silence, but western women don't see it as such and thus would mistake that for being passive, when in fact they are very nearly close to death but don't realize it as such.
6. Both will nag you to death
7. Western women wont' have as high of material expectations and don't need to be as pampered, but if you do pamper them they will quickly take it for granted. For a Korean girl, they will know that they are lucky and will protect you from all other women and even friends until you are married.
8. There are both the crazy and dramatic type (high maintenance on both ends), but the Korean woman will stop if the man gets angry enough, but the western will not or push it further.
9. Korean women are more likely to stalk you after breaking up, I'd say about 100% more chance as they tend to think of you as their possession as well.
10. Korean women will very intensely passionate immediately as soon as they decide you are their man, there is no first, second, third base if they feel you are there man; so many less sexual and relationship hang ups, but Westerns in general tend to have more hang ups and are more conservative in love making (but perhaps more animalistic and savage though)

But for the most part, if you were to compare Korean women to western women, out of all the Asian women, i would say that Korean women are the most similar in temperament in their passion and aggressiveness. To be honestly, I think Korean women make the perfect lovers and wives, and general companions, but they will treat you like a possession as well. Cross them and they will have their revenge.

What I like about western women though is they can truly be honest loving women who's independence allows them to be lovers as well as friends. I can't say that many Korean men are friends with their Korean lovers/wives.


Lol wow such a good analysis. My long-term gf is Vietnamese, but born in the USA and she's Exactly like how you described a Western woman. Including the friend part at the end. You are good MA-hyung


^^ Vietnamese are very very beautiful and lovely women and I hear they treat their man well, but if you cross them they will main you.


Haha yeah, my girlfriend is actually the first girl I have met who just does not get that angry. I mean, she does sometimes, in a cold kind of way where she glares at me all week and says nothing, but she doesn't have big explosions like what you describe Korean girls as doing. My Taiwanese mother on the other hand... she sounds quite similar to that, except instead of once a week, it's any given moment. Do one thing that she doesn't like and volcano erupts...

My gf treats me quite well though, and offers to pay much of the time, very generous and gentle. My only problem now is she's putting a lot of faith in me, waiting around while I get my writing career established >.>, as I am not ready to propose until I have some real money coming in.


Don't wait too long, getting married gives you a focus to succeed more than anything else on the planet can add children to that, and you'll be working like dog to become successful keke.


Haha yeah, I need to get this novel done and sold before the end of the year, or else I'm in trouble. I'm scared shitless of kids right now though, because I know I'd probably have to quit writing and go do business again to make money if they came along right this moment. My mother is already starting to mumble about grandchildren -.-,

Things are going well though. I look forward to writing the blog where I announce my novel sale , with the accompanying story explaining my journey to writing a novel, which has been a roller coaster hah.

Now as to my question: MA-hyung, if you don't mind discussing, what exactly is your job now as an entrepreneur? I saw that you mentioned something about bringing two gaming companies global? I'm not sure if I quite understand though and would be very interested in learning more about the project you took such risks to go after.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 25 2011 14:19 GMT
#211
On February 25 2011 22:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?

Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries?


Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians.
If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as;
being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner.
so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks,

In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves.

So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American.


Ah Korean girls from Western countries:
big question but here goes:

North America:
East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature.
Or,
Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot.

West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic.

You could travel the world,
But nothin' comes close,
To the golden coast!
Once you party with u-us,
you'll be fallin' in love!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

California girls, we're unforgettable,
Daisy dukes, bikinis on top!
Sunkissed skin,
So hot we'll melt your popsicle!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

California girls, we're undeniable,
Fine, fresh, fierce,
We got it on lock!
West coast represent, now put your hands up!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America.


Europe:
The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed.

Japan:
Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese.
but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior.

China:
there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!)

Russia:
They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell!

Australia/NZ
Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally.

^^



Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs!
Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans?

I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong.


Fuzhou ren are not much liked, neither are Shaanxi people


Where did you get this from?
Rillanon.au
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
February 25 2011 14:24 GMT
#212
On February 25 2011 13:24 MightyAtom wrote:
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On February 25 2011 10:50 MisterD wrote:
man i love reading this stuff.. but i can't think of any suitable questions for his mightyness.. But most stuff thats screwed up with me i already figured out the answers to by myself, but am just to lazy to get off my butt x)

Still, good to know there's a place to ask with a guy i trust to give a proper answer. It's so awesome reading all the replies and not finding anything where i feel like "come on, thats bs". The stuff i think i have some clue of is just right, and the stuff i don't have a clue of still seems sound and good. It's a real joy to read this.

Once i find a suitable question, i shall post it!


I look forward to it ^^ but it sounds like you are doing good with your strong grasp of reality (which is probably the most important skill in life).


yes well, it doesn't prevent you from being an idiot over and over though ^^
but at least a different kind of idiot every time
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
Stratos.FEAR
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada706 Posts
February 25 2011 16:40 GMT
#213
On February 25 2011 22:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?

Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries?


Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians.
If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as;
being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner.
so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks,

In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves.

So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American.


Ah Korean girls from Western countries:
big question but here goes:

North America:
East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature.
Or,
Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot.

West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic.

You could travel the world,
But nothin' comes close,
To the golden coast!
Once you party with u-us,
you'll be fallin' in love!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

California girls, we're unforgettable,
Daisy dukes, bikinis on top!
Sunkissed skin,
So hot we'll melt your popsicle!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

California girls, we're undeniable,
Fine, fresh, fierce,
We got it on lock!
West coast represent, now put your hands up!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America.


Europe:
The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed.

Japan:
Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese.
but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior.

China:
there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!)

Russia:
They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell!

Australia/NZ
Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally.

^^



Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs!
Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans?

I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong.


Sorry, but I have to step in and say that sentiment is just plain misguided. There's no such thing as fully Chinese. You should take pride in your Chinese heritage, realize "Chinese" is a mishmash of different ethnicities, and that there is no such thing as "full Chinese." Or even Han ethnicity. If you study any of your people's history you will know that Chinese people killed each other for centuries and that there are countless tribes and clans and peoples, that's why in Guangdong alone, there are so many ethnic groups, Teo Chow, Kejia, Guangdong ren, etc. and that among Chinese people, there are many provinces that do not like each other. Fuzhou ren are not much liked, neither are Shaanxi people, etc. Han is just some idea espoused for the sake of political unity, but it has no basis in reality. Chinese is membership in an empire, not an ethnic group. It is way too late for Chinese to go back and try to divide themselves into categories of purity. Too much history and mixtures by now.

And there will always be plenty of dumbass ignorant Chinese out there who will say things like "Oh, you speak with an accent, so you're not full Chinese," and other stupid things like that, but it is your fault if you are going to listen to the words of fools. As a student of Chinese history, I get really annoyed with the ignorant garbage many Chinese people spout, mostly from stupid Chinese mothers who have never opened a book and have very strange perverse notions about Chinese culture and history that seem to be based more on racism and retardation rather than any basis in reality. And Mainland Chinese are often even more ignorant due to the propaganda and brainwashing they have had from their gov't.


you can say that with just about every ethnicity, especially countries which were occupied by another for some time
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 25 2011 17:13 GMT
#214
On February 26 2011 01:40 Stratos.FEAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 22:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote:
When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians?

Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries?


Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians.
If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as;
being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner.
so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks,

In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves.

So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American.


Ah Korean girls from Western countries:
big question but here goes:

North America:
East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature.
Or,
Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot.

West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic.

You could travel the world,
But nothin' comes close,
To the golden coast!
Once you party with u-us,
you'll be fallin' in love!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

California girls, we're unforgettable,
Daisy dukes, bikinis on top!
Sunkissed skin,
So hot we'll melt your popsicle!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

California girls, we're undeniable,
Fine, fresh, fierce,
We got it on lock!
West coast represent, now put your hands up!
Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh!

Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America.


Europe:
The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed.

Japan:
Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese.
but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior.

China:
there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!)

Russia:
They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell!

Australia/NZ
Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally.

^^



Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs!
Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans?

I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong.


Sorry, but I have to step in and say that sentiment is just plain misguided. There's no such thing as fully Chinese. You should take pride in your Chinese heritage, realize "Chinese" is a mishmash of different ethnicities, and that there is no such thing as "full Chinese." Or even Han ethnicity. If you study any of your people's history you will know that Chinese people killed each other for centuries and that there are countless tribes and clans and peoples, that's why in Guangdong alone, there are so many ethnic groups, Teo Chow, Kejia, Guangdong ren, etc. and that among Chinese people, there are many provinces that do not like each other. Fuzhou ren are not much liked, neither are Shaanxi people, etc. Han is just some idea espoused for the sake of political unity, but it has no basis in reality. Chinese is membership in an empire, not an ethnic group. It is way too late for Chinese to go back and try to divide themselves into categories of purity. Too much history and mixtures by now.

And there will always be plenty of dumbass ignorant Chinese out there who will say things like "Oh, you speak with an accent, so you're not full Chinese," and other stupid things like that, but it is your fault if you are going to listen to the words of fools. As a student of Chinese history, I get really annoyed with the ignorant garbage many Chinese people spout, mostly from stupid Chinese mothers who have never opened a book and have very strange perverse notions about Chinese culture and history that seem to be based more on racism and retardation rather than any basis in reality. And Mainland Chinese are often even more ignorant due to the propaganda and brainwashing they have had from their gov't.


you can say that with just about every ethnicity, especially countries which were occupied by another for some time


Yeah, you can say that. That's why a person should not throw away or be ashamed of his heritage just because he happened to deviate from some supposed ideal upbringing of cultural and racial purity.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 18:23:38
February 25 2011 17:16 GMT
#215
How can I meet a nice Korean Buddhist girl in Korea? Eventually, I need to settle down, so I hope to marry a korean girl and help me do jaesa. Unfortunately, most Koreans I know in the United States are Christian.
Don't mind me
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
February 26 2011 01:26 GMT
#216
Just a general question to Hyung.

What are a man's obligations to society?
MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
February 26 2011 07:42 GMT
#217
On February 25 2011 15:09 thebteam wrote:
Hyung, how do you motivate yourself to be more ambitious? I feel like I have lived most of my life by just doing enough to get by without really excelling. I will be starting at EY this summer, and I am already apprehensive of the working grind. Since you also worked at a Big 4 accounting firm, is there any advice that you would give to be successful?


Great start at E&Y
You need vision and a need to either be: naturally competitive, or a need to do something for others.

But for your case, some practical advice.

EMBRACE WORK, say that you love working, that you are a workaholic, believe it, do it, and throw yourself at your work as if every additional hour or stress is a good thing, as if it you were the luckiest mofo to get this job and you'll begin engage work on a different level.

Then your definition of success won't be so superficial as to 'be established' or something vague, but it will be like, be able to have the reputation to understand the financials faster than any of the entry level noobs, or for you to be the most efficient...and then for you to want to move up the corporate ladder quicker.

Its as though, the more you immerse yourself, the most things will also pull you to be more ambitious and remember,

a man above other men is defined by his confidence and his ambition

go out there and rock it.
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
February 26 2011 07:50 GMT
#218
On February 25 2011 15:19 doihy wrote:
I have a question for you, might be kind of personal though.

Q: From your comments above I assume you believe in God. What lead you to believe in God?


Born in 3rd generation Presbyterian family, but it was my parents faith and their love which was most influential.

But ultimately by university I had stopped going to church and thought that church as all bullshit and finally started to read the bible on my own without bible studies and christian propaganda of one line bible verses out of context. I questioned everything and doubted everything and searched until I realized two things.

If God really is God, then he will reveal himself to those sincerely calling, cause wtf, its God, if he out there, you will know, you don't need to look at two birds singing and guess that might be God giving you sign, the signs should be pretty damn clear.

And

If God really is God, then any doubt any question will be answered and it will be answered with completeness, a flawless answer which is the right answer in all contexts and levels.


For me that was Love.

So I have no doubts, no fears, no hesitations.
Administrator-I am the universe- Morihei Ueshiba
MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
February 26 2011 07:55 GMT
#219
On February 25 2011 15:57 SkyLegenD wrote:
Hyung, when is it acceptable to lie to:

1)parents
2)close friend
3)gf/wife


The focus is not on lying or not to lie, but rather to protect and nurture and grow. The act of lying is but a tool and not evil or bad in itself unless the lie is to destroy, give mistrust and to create doubt.

If the nazis asked me to reveal my jew friends during ww2, I would lie.
If my close friend couldn't handle the truth about something and would have a mental break down, I would lie.
If my son asked me about Santa Clause, I would lie (but I don't think I personally ever believed in Santa Clause).

Don't look at the act as the end, but rather the intent as the the whole. But avoid using the act of lying as a general tool in life, it cuts both ways too often.
Administrator-I am the universe- Morihei Ueshiba
MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
February 26 2011 08:05 GMT
#220
On February 25 2011 16:26 haduken wrote:
What's your opinion on the Chinese? What exactly is Korea's relationship with China? How does a Korean man and a Chinese man differ?


As a Korean, unlike the Japanese (sorry just being truthful), we always appreciate and respect all our traditions that have been past down to us from China. But, modern China is a bit different, we see the great wealth there, but we don't really know how big it truly is. Also we think that most mainland chinese people are too country like (as we don't like even country type of people either), which is different that being 'folk' like. Being to 'country like' it to have little manners.


A Korean man and Chinese man as men differ in how they approach responsibility and to whom.

For a Korean man, passion and joy must dictate the relationship, and duty second, but then without his passion and joy, his duty is a heavy burden even as he struggles daily to maintain it. A Korean man seeks to take responsibility to protect all under his umbrella, but he seeks stability of all things. He see things in terms of the quality of the relations, even at a financial loss.

A Chinese man, duty to his family is a natural instinct, there is no need for passion or joy, rather a need to be a provider always. A Chinese man will not establish any relationship that conflicts with his duty to his family including work or money. He does not require joy or passion, but rather a clear incentive of money or position to ensure his contribution to his family. The wealth of his family is his joy. The focus is not necessarily stability, but rather wealth. Thus he may expose his family to unnecessary risk for high gain.
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