EPTAsk me anything about being a Man, Korean Style - Page 10
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StorkHwaiting
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On February 24 2011 15:07 MightyAtom wrote: Ah Smufty, ok, 1. Korean woman will generally concern about the man first and not expect equal treatment in bed 2. Both are very passionate in bed 3. Korean women will try to look pretty for their man, Westerns not as much 4. Korean women expect to be pampered and not to pay for anything, western women are willing to dutch and even take care of the man, but of course even if a western woman says they want equality through equal paying of costs, they usually can be convinced to accept to be financially taken care of. 5. Korean women know that a man's strength comes from controlled silence, but western women don't see it as such and thus would mistake that for being passive, when in fact they are very nearly close to death but don't realize it as such. 6. Both will nag you to death 7. Western women wont' have as high of material expectations and don't need to be as pampered, but if you do pamper them they will quickly take it for granted. For a Korean girl, they will know that they are lucky and will protect you from all other women and even friends until you are married. 8. There are both the crazy and dramatic type (high maintenance on both ends), but the Korean woman will stop if the man gets angry enough, but the western will not or push it further. 9. Korean women are more likely to stalk you after breaking up, I'd say about 100% more chance as they tend to think of you as their possession as well. 10. Korean women will very intensely passionate immediately as soon as they decide you are their man, there is no first, second, third base if they feel you are there man; so many less sexual and relationship hang ups, but Westerns in general tend to have more hang ups and are more conservative in love making (but perhaps more animalistic and savage though) But for the most part, if you were to compare Korean women to western women, out of all the Asian women, i would say that Korean women are the most similar in temperament in their passion and aggressiveness. To be honestly, I think Korean women make the perfect lovers and wives, and general companions, but they will treat you like a possession as well. Cross them and they will have their revenge. What I like about western women though is they can truly be honest loving women who's independence allows them to be lovers as well as friends. I can't say that many Korean men are friends with their Korean lovers/wives. Lol wow such a good analysis. My long-term gf is Vietnamese, but born in the USA and she's Exactly like how you described a Western woman. Including the friend part at the end. You are good MA-hyung  | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
On February 25 2011 08:10 MisteR wrote: It's threads like these that make me wish we'd have the hyung system here in the Germanic culture. You're a lifesaver, MightyAtom. As my life as been saved too by my Hyungs, I just continue the chain ^^ | ||
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On February 25 2011 08:21 Dieoxhide wrote: How and why should I get a job in Korea? How: get transfered from your foreign company to work as an expat in a subsidiarity in Korea. Why: as an expat you'll be paid 3 times as much and live life like a high class king in the land that is the paradise for men. You could go to a third world country and do the same, but its much better going to a developed country and being king, also Korea is not yet developed that we have so many social regulations (ie. no drinking end time, drinking in public, etc). DON'T COME HERE TO WORK IN A KOREAN COMPANY AS A DOMESTIC EMPLOYEE, You will be coming to hell on earth. And if you come to teach English here, limit it to 3 years max and save money, and even attend classes here, otherwise you will have lost x years of your life for no real purpose. | ||
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MightyAtom
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On February 25 2011 10:50 MisterD wrote: man i love reading this stuff.. but i can't think of any suitable questions for his mightyness..  But most stuff thats screwed up with me i already figured out the answers to by myself, but am just to lazy to get off my butt x)Still, good to know there's a place to ask with a guy i trust to give a proper answer. It's so awesome reading all the replies and not finding anything where i feel like "come on, thats bs". The stuff i think i have some clue of is just right, and the stuff i don't have a clue of still seems sound and good. It's a real joy to read this. Once i find a suitable question, i shall post it! I look forward to it ^^ but it sounds like you are doing good with your strong grasp of reality (which is probably the most important skill in life). | ||
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On February 25 2011 12:25 SkyLegenD wrote: MightyAtom-hyung is a fucking LegenD! I wish I had a true hyung like him. If you need I am your hyung, thus is being a Hyung. But only for TL people. ^^ But in actual physical meeting, one day, we will have another TL meet up, when I'm more stable (or if someone organizes it in Seoul) and if I'm in the country we will have fun! And Mr.Hoon, I had a great time that night as well, you so mannerful dong-seng! | ||
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On February 25 2011 12:37 l0st_romantic wrote: Is it wierd for a Korean girl to offer to do your taxes for you? No, if she likes you, she will come over and do your laundry, cook you a meal, clean your dishes, organize your room and make sweet love to you and do your taxes if she has her CPA. They will be helpful in whatever capacity they can (my wife does all my company expenses for me-but that is because she wants to get the cash in hand!) keke. | ||
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On February 25 2011 12:51 StorkHwaiting wrote: Lol wow such a good analysis. My long-term gf is Vietnamese, but born in the USA and she's Exactly like how you described a Western woman. Including the friend part at the end. You are good MA-hyung ^^ Vietnamese are very very beautiful and lovely women and I hear they treat their man well, but if you cross them they will main you. | ||
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The_LiNk
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Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries? | ||
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On February 25 2011 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: How hard is it for a foreginer to learn Korean? This is a bad question to ask me because after 10 years or so in Korea, my Korean is still terrible, of course I can communicate, but I can only talk business Korean, otherwise I have no idea what is going on outside of the house, office and restaurant. Korean script is easy as hell, 2 hours max to learn. To learn Korean enough to watch sitcoms and dramas, pretty easy after enough exposure and going through the basics. Overseas Koreans have a very difficult time learning Korean because they never learn the basics, they know various levels of Korean which can be some pretty deep and complex words/hanja (chinese based words), but then fail in basic instructional Korean. The reason for this is that the exposure to Korean makes them believe that they should know Korean, but its an illusion and so they continue to learn Korean as if they were still 2 years old running around learning bits and pieces here and there, but since they are able to communicate inEnglish, they never really get the desperation to learn properly. If you were to learn Korean, learn the basics first and the grammar completely and the articles etc; don't move on if you have any questions, learning vocabulary is easy enough, just memorization, but the grammar is very different and if you don't get the grammar right you will never look educated when you speak Korean (as I look like a retard when I speak Korean for more than 2 continual minutes, unless in a drinking or business situation). ^^ | ||
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On February 25 2011 13:33 MightyAtom wrote: ^^ Vietnamese are very very beautiful and lovely women and I hear they treat their man well, but if you cross them they will main you. Haha yeah, my girlfriend is actually the first girl I have met who just does not get that angry. I mean, she does sometimes, in a cold kind of way where she glares at me all week and says nothing, but she doesn't have big explosions like what you describe Korean girls as doing. My Taiwanese mother on the other hand... she sounds quite similar to that, except instead of once a week, it's any given moment. Do one thing that she doesn't like and volcano erupts... My gf treats me quite well though, and offers to pay much of the time, very generous and gentle. My only problem now is she's putting a lot of faith in me, waiting around while I get my writing career established >.>, as I am not ready to propose until I have some real money coming in. | ||
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On February 25 2011 13:34 The_LiNk wrote: When you refer to foreigners, do you mean caucasians? How do Asians from Western countries (for example I am Chinese Canadian) get treated? Do all these things that apply to "foreigners" apply to ALL foreigners or just caucasians? Also, what's your analysis on Korean girls from Western countries? Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians. If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as; being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner. so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks, In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves. So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American. Ah Korean girls from Western countries: big question but here goes: North America: East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature. Or, Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot. West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic. You could travel the world, But nothin' comes close, To the golden coast! Once you party with u-us, you'll be fallin' in love! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're unforgettable, Daisy dukes, bikinis on top! Sunkissed skin, So hot we'll melt your popsicle! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're undeniable, Fine, fresh, fierce, We got it on lock! West coast represent, now put your hands up! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America. Europe: The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed. Japan: Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese. but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior. China: there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!) Russia: They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell! Australia/NZ Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally. ^^ | ||
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The_LiNk
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On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote: Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians. If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as; being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner. so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks, In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves. So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American. Ah Korean girls from Western countries: big question but here goes: North America: East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature. Or, Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot. West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic. You could travel the world, But nothin' comes close, To the golden coast! Once you party with u-us, you'll be fallin' in love! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're unforgettable, Daisy dukes, bikinis on top! Sunkissed skin, So hot we'll melt your popsicle! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're undeniable, Fine, fresh, fierce, We got it on lock! West coast represent, now put your hands up! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America. Europe: The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed. Japan: Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese. but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior. China: there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!) Russia: They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell! Australia/NZ Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally. ^^ Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs! Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans? I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong. | ||
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MightyAtom
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On February 25 2011 13:56 SkyLegenD wrote: Hyung, can you give us a brief background of yourself? I see from another blog post of yours that you attended Korea University and currently work in Seoul, but you have superb English and know quite a lot about Western culture. Born in Montreal Quebec, in school learned French then English then move to Toronto at middle school, forgot my french by grade 10, come from an uber conservative family. Did my undergrad and grad studies in Canada and then did my Masters in business at Korea university, played on their pro rugby team (only overseas Korean to do so), worked for a technology transfer Korean gov't agency for 3-4 years and for PwC in Korea. Lived in France for a few months and have traveled to MANY places for work only. My major in undergrad was political philosophy and ENGLISH LIT LOL, I was the only Asian in the program lol. So, anyways, I've been in Korea now for about 10 years straight. I never fit in English speaking Canada and I think if my family never left Montreal I would have never come to Korea ever. When I was growing up I could see three different cultures, the french, the English and the Korean; but what was consistent was the Korean, but what I love is both the french and Korean background that I have. When I am in Quebec or in France, ah, I am so much at peace with the world. When I am in English speaking Canada or American, I am so frustrated and uncomfortable; so of course my English is native, but my mentality never grew out of being Korean or French (didn't expect that part), so right now I am thinking to send my first born son to a French private school as both Elky and Giyom are his 'Godfathers' ( including Smuft and Rekrul), but what is close to my heart, is my love for France and Quebec and Korea. But I am Korean, not native Korean, not overseas Korean, just Korean who loves all things Korean and French! keke. I think though, in terms of how accurately I articulate Korean things, its because I did experience schooling, being on a professional sports team and working for the Korean gov't and a top Korean firm, and the fact that I married into a rich traditional family and my own background ain't that shabby either. I would say, I've experience more higher level Korean culture than most average Koreans and can articulate it because I can honestly compare it to western culture at equal footing but when I first came to Korea, that wasn't the case, I had many traditional views that were outdated or overly critical about Korea without understand the real competitive pressures here. | ||
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The_LiNk
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What schools in Canada? Your opinion on Canadian post secondary institutions compared to Asia? Most importantly, the views of Asian Asians on North American Asians with North American university education (non Ivey, especially Canadian) 2nd edit: Funny I wrote Ivey, I mean Ivy League. | ||
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On February 25 2011 14:06 StorkHwaiting wrote: Haha yeah, my girlfriend is actually the first girl I have met who just does not get that angry. I mean, she does sometimes, in a cold kind of way where she glares at me all week and says nothing, but she doesn't have big explosions like what you describe Korean girls as doing. My Taiwanese mother on the other hand... she sounds quite similar to that, except instead of once a week, it's any given moment. Do one thing that she doesn't like and volcano erupts... My gf treats me quite well though, and offers to pay much of the time, very generous and gentle. My only problem now is she's putting a lot of faith in me, waiting around while I get my writing career established >.>, as I am not ready to propose until I have some real money coming in. Don't wait too long, getting married gives you a focus to succeed more than anything else on the planet can add children to that, and you'll be working like dog to become successful keke. | ||
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MightyAtom
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On February 25 2011 14:25 The_LiNk wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 25 2011 14:15 MightyAtom wrote: Yes, when Koreans refer to foreigners, they mean Caucasians. If you are Asian from western country, if they don't mistake you as an overseas Korean or native Korean at first, once they hear your background they will treat you like a white foreigner, but you may actually get treated much better as; being a white foreigner in Korea is not usually a good thing as a foreigner is a foreigner. so they can't always get taxis, if they look like US army, they may get dirty looks, In the sense that Korean's may feel some envy to the US and the idea of the perfect American man like General Douglas MacArthur, but to the actual individual, we hold no one above ourselves. So, you may actually be treated extremely nicely as long as you make sure to tell them that you are Chinese American and not a Korean American. Ah Korean girls from Western countries: big question but here goes: North America: East coast: generally have accepted to integrate into American society and want to move up; so will marry any type of man as long as he has position, wealth, power or in a professional background. Tends to be very career driven and ambitious. Has a very high opinion of herself as every man, regardless of race, under the East coast sun wants to hook up with them, General personal is a bit on the bitchy snobby side, but get them in bed and they revert to their true Korean woman nature. Or, Very traditional and conservative and only exists in the Korean American community and goes to church a lot. West coast: very nationalistic, will only go out with Korean guys, and if they meet a Korean girl who they know going out with a foreigner, they will go out of their way to give her shit or intimate her. Very great women, loves to have fun and take care of their man in every which way, while enjoying the bling, they are willing to take care of their man. Not career driven, but wants to make a family and do family things and find a good man, but again, willing to prop up their man in every which way. But, if you're not Korean, no chance, and if you do marry a Korean west coast girl, they will expect you to become as Korean as possible, whether you are Chinese, black or Hispanic. You could travel the world, But nothin' comes close, To the golden coast! Once you party with u-us, you'll be fallin' in love! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're unforgettable, Daisy dukes, bikinis on top! Sunkissed skin, So hot we'll melt your popsicle! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! California girls, we're undeniable, Fine, fresh, fierce, We got it on lock! West coast represent, now put your hands up! Oh oh oh ohhhhhhh! Give me a Stanford Cali Korean girl anytime over any other Korean girl from North America. Europe: The girls tend to take on the full characteristics of their mother country as a majority of them are Korean adoptees, but due to genetics, their Korean potential is unlocked, in bed. Japan: Very interesting situation: in Tokyo, very Japanese at this point after 4 generations or so in Japan, but still have some pride/identity. But when you date a Korean japanese girl from Tokyo, she basically is Japanese. but in Osaka, they are a different breed of Korean Japanese, fierce and fighters, aggressive and confident; very Korean in mentality, but also very Japanese in outward behavior. China: there are 2 major areas where there are ethnic Korean in Northern China, I don't remember their names, but one is significantly better than the other, they are basically like normal Koreans who were raised in the country side, but try hard to be like a 'native Seoul Korean' which they can never be. but being from the Chinese environment hasn't affected them much other than its like some very far off Korean province that got cut off from the main land and has been protecting their culture and is trying to integrate into modern Korean culture. So the women, man, they don't know how to make themselves look pretty, they can't dress or put on make up properly whatsoever, but anyways, that is the same for any Korean woman who lives in the farm land area of Korea. Most Chinese Koreans from those areas come here as nannies and teach Chinese and Korean to the upper class families, but they get scolded a lot from the Seoul mommies (personally I'm going to hire west coast Korean university girls to be my sons' nannies! whoot!) Russia: They are full on Russian, some Korean Russians are freaking crazy ass rich, like unbelievably rich, but they are full on Russian and behave really weird, but actually its pretty sexy as hell! Australia/NZ Tend to be a good combination of Aussie/Kiwi easy goingness and have a lot of direct exposure to Korean culture by the vast amount of Korean language students, but I'd say, very pleasant, but very not Korean either, almost like native Aussie/Kiwis generally. ^^ Everybody from North America MUST be American amirite? Canadian ffs! Ha, if I say I'm Canadian do I get treated better than the Americans? I empathize the Korean Chinese. I'm the Chinese Canadian that will never be fully Chinese no matter how hard I try. Now I wanna be... just Asian... mixture of Chinese and Korean. Korea's cooler than China, except Hong Kong. I shall be forever loyal to Hong Kong. hehe, same difference ^^ gogo Hong Kong, in Macau right now via HK yesterday. | ||
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MightyAtom
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On February 25 2011 14:33 The_LiNk wrote: MightyAtom Hyung is Canadian! Ho ying ar! (So Cool!) What schools in Canada? Your opinion on Canadian post secondary institutions compared to Asia? Most importantly, the views of Asian Asians on North American Asians with North American university education (non Ivey, especially Canadian) 2nd edit: Funny I wrote Ivey, I mean Ivy League. Earl Haig S.S. U of M (long fucking story, graduated a year early via transferring out of Haig and doing summer school and going to a semestered school for a year - was going to travel...sigh...) U of T (grad) Canadian universities are among the best in the world, easy to get into, fucking hard to graduate from. I can only speak for Korea, but not Ivy, just whatever, but they know U of T and the other top US schools. So you get a nod, but nothing more than that. But Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT, hero worship, lol even Stanford, you don't get that level of love, but definite respect, but don't expect any oohs and awes from being from a Canadian school. But one thing, in Korea and in Asia, we dont' call ourselves Asian, we dont' have that kind of understanding, we are either Korean, or Chinese or Japanese etc, the only people who call themselves Asian in Asia are the Singaporeans, but since they have no influence in East Asia (except in major commercial real estate transactions), we tend to think that is cute. | ||
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