EPTif his games are boring, it's because his opponets aren't good enough and just get rolled
nevertheless, i don't like him too much because he is too good
Why do you hate Flash? - Page 4
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
if his games are boring, it's because his opponets aren't good enough and just get rolled nevertheless, i don't like him too much because he is too good | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
despair and futility is what awaits Flash's opponents | ||
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skinnyrl
Netherlands125 Posts
rly you guys are noobs :D | ||
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skinnyrl
Netherlands125 Posts
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On February 18 2011 05:14 GolemMadness wrote: 1) Pretty sure that having the best year ever is fairly significant. 2) He uses a bunch of different builds and strategies, and most players use similar builds over and over. Is Jaedong using a different build every game? Obviously not. 3) It was the OSL. 1- Fuck best year. I want pimp plays, not %80 win loss ratio. That's why i will ALWAYS pick HiyA over Flash, ZerO over Jaedong (and all other SKT Zergs over Jaedong as well) and Kal over Stork (lol this is controversial, but I'm a fan of Stars and STX, so i don't like SBG that much, but his last game against Flash was totally awesome, watch it). 2- He uses 1 single build in TvP. 2 builds in TvZ with 2nd one being used for 5% of the time. I never could resist sleeping in a Flash TvT, so I don't know what he does there. 3- He doesn't make room for the  Big Dawg. | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
He uses 1 single build in TvP. 2 builds in TvZ with 2nd one being used for 5% of the time. Bad trolling attempt or you don't follow scbw scene at all. He is one of the most various players. | ||
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iamho
United States3345 Posts
2. 14cc'ing like crazy in tvt and tvz. Its the greediest viable opener in starcraft, and its essentially a BO Win. 3. Rax CC in TvP: super greedy build that lets terran get both natural and third before protoss. 4. Playing Terran (Progaming's strongest race) 5. Abusive as hell late game tvz. Basically, any game that goes past 30 minutes with terran on 4 base is going to be autowin for the terran. 6. No emotion. He's mildy happy when he wins, slightly disappointed when he loses. No anger, no sadness, no rage. Boring. | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
No emotion. He's mildy happy when he wins, slightly disappointed when he loses. No anger, no sadness, no rage. Boring. It is called - strong mentality. You can't win with hysterical nature. Any super greedy play can be punished, right? So, how come he scores 90% winrate with such "unsafe" play-style? It seems like ppl have a problem with admitting of the real hate reasons. | ||
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IamBach
United States1059 Posts
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
 BaBy. Also because he doesn't really seem to have a personality, he's just a robot who plays immaculate Starcraft. Sure, it's pretty to watch, but it gets so boring.However, every time he beats Bisu he redeems himself a little  | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On February 18 2011 06:41 iamho wrote: 1. ANNOYING FANS 2. 14cc'ing like crazy in tvt and tvz. Its the greediest viable opener in starcraft, and its essentially a BO Win. 3. Rax CC in TvP: super greedy build that lets terran get both natural and third before protoss. 4. Playing Terran (Progaming's strongest race) 5. Abusive as hell late game tvz. Basically, any game that goes past 30 minutes with terran on 4 base is going to be autowin for the terran. 6. No emotion. He's mildy happy when he wins, slightly disappointed when he loses. No anger, no sadness, no rage. Boring. 2) greedier than 12 nex? 4) over the past 3 years terran has had the least amount of different osl/msl finalists, so i'm not sure why you say it's the strongest race. 6) this couldn't be further from the truth. | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
Also because he doesn't really seem to have a personality Yep, I thought in the same way due to his PC interviews. But it seems like in real life he is quite cheerful and easy-going person. There are a lot of pros who are friendly with him, so it looks like he just dosnt want trash talk like Stork =) Baby makes me sad. He is such a prodigy kid and still can't show best of his. Current T scene is crumbled, we need more good T players. | ||
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
However, when the opponent is on equal standing with Flash, at least for a particular game, then you get a ridiculous display. Zero vs Flash? Fantasy vs Flash? Those were spectacular. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
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zenMaster
Canada761 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 18 2011 06:41 iamho wrote: 1. ANNOYING FANS 2. 14cc'ing like crazy in tvt and tvz. Its the greediest viable opener in starcraft, and its essentially a BO Win. 3. Rax CC in TvP: super greedy build that lets terran get both natural and third before protoss. 4. Playing Terran (Progaming's strongest race) 5. Abusive as hell late game tvz. Basically, any game that goes past 30 minutes with terran on 4 base is going to be autowin for the terran. 6. No emotion. He's mildy happy when he wins, slightly disappointed when he loses. No anger, no sadness, no rage. Boring. 1) All top players have fans that annoy other people. 2) He doesn't 14 CC that often, and protoss players 12 nexus against him all the time. Incidentally, he beats other terran players who 14 CC against him when he doesn't, and other terran players who 14 CC against other races lose all the time. 3) This is the same as your last point. The whole point of the game is to get an advantage. You're basically saying "He does stuff to win, so I hate him." 4) If it weren't for Flash, nobody would say that. Instead, people would be bitching about zerg being overpowered. 5) This is just plain untrue, and you're just repeating yourself again. Ever heard of Flash vs Jaedong on Tau Cross in the WCG? 6) He shows more emotion than many players. Bisu, for example, never shows any emotion. Or Stork after losing to Fantasy. Look at his OSL win over Movie. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
Me, I think he's a baller for being so damn good in every aspect of the game. He's the player who comes closest to perfection in Starcraft terms. | ||
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DerNebel
Denmark648 Posts
He is so good that it is a pleasure to watch (when not playing STX). Still, I was laughing when he GG'd to Ssak and Classic. Any game where Flash plays at his best and the opponent can give him run for his money, sometimes beating him, easily qualifies for best game of the year. (JD v Flash at Tau Cross comes to mind) | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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