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Why do you hate Flash? - Page 6

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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
February 21 2011 05:11 GMT
#101
Flash -> Cheater Terran 2.0
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
February 21 2011 05:13 GMT
#102
Because he continues to beat Jaedong in Bo5 matches that I spend soooo much time praying for JD to win.
"Well it’s obvious that these Terran gamers are just extremely gifted when it comes to RTS games" -Ret, in regards to the first months of SC2
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
February 21 2011 05:18 GMT
#103
Because he a plaaaaaaaaaaaaaayaaaaaaaaaa
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10529 Posts
February 21 2011 05:21 GMT
#104
i dont hate him... but because i love this, ill give an option...

I remember somewhere in this thread that this guy (flamewheel maybe???) said something on the lines of "everytime i watch jaedong win EVERY SINGLE TIME, i get this horrendous feeling to throw my computer into the trash... i then remember getting this feeling while watching savior play back in 2006, NO ONE COULD STOP HIM!!!"

^^ yeah, instead of jaedong, insert Flash.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 05:22:55
February 21 2011 05:22 GMT
#105
On February 21 2011 14:06 xMiragex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 14:00 Turgid wrote:
Yeah but it sounds like you're saying that you're as good as him, strategically. That's a bold claim.


Similar style =/= similar decision on the fly. Its not impossible for any player (low or high level) to have a similar approach to the game. Just for simplicity's sake, i'd do 14cc, 1rax FE, or bunker rush in similar instances and vs certain opponents as well but it doesn't mean i'd know when to split the map, make a specific timing push he does, etc.


Oh, it wasn't clear that's what you meant. I see now.
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Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
February 21 2011 05:50 GMT
#106
Hating Flash is a-ok, but I do get annoyed when people try to pull the "Flash does the same thing all the time" card. That's complete bullshit, Flash is one of the most varied players in all matchups these days.

I also have an illogical dislike for Bisu, but I don't pretend there's some actual objective reason behind it. I'm just an anti-fan of his, no reason needed.

I <3 Stork, and JD is pretty cool too.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 21 2011 06:34 GMT
#107
So is it strange of me to just be excited about players in general? I think all the TBLS are totally awesome, I think Hydra is awesome, I think Baby is awesome, I think Kal is awesome, etc... I root for every single player in one way or another. Even guys like oDin or Grape, I just want them to do well.
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 07:23:33
February 21 2011 07:15 GMT
#108
I voted "because he has a winning record vs everyone". When Flash has a Proleague game versus an opponent who is not Jaedong, Stork, or one of his other rivals, most of the time I correctly assume he will win the game. The opponent might gain a significant advantage, but Flash ultimately wins in the end. It feels as though most of his games have an outcome before they begin. Flash is a figure associated with the negative result, boredom.
iPood
Profile Joined January 2011
United States99 Posts
March 07 2011 05:44 GMT
#109
He's the reason why I stopped watching/playing SC for a full year. When he beat Jaedong 3-0 last year I went into a depression and stopped watching SC.
skinnyrl
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 14:44:28
March 07 2011 14:43 GMT
#110
On March 07 2011 14:44 iPood wrote:
He's the reason why I stopped watching/playing SC for a full year. When he beat Jaedong 3-0 last year I went into a depression and stopped watching SC.


..
there are so many amazing players to watch not only flash is crazy
And many people forget that individual leagues are different then proleague.
''Every advantage has it's disadvantage'' Johan Cruyf
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
March 07 2011 15:14 GMT
#111
Because he isn't Boxer. Period.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
TaKa
Profile Joined April 2010
28 Posts
March 07 2011 15:20 GMT
#112
jadeong-.-
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 07 2011 15:49 GMT
#113
Because Bisu is better.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
March 07 2011 15:55 GMT
#114
i don't care for Flash either way, really.
I drop suckas like Plinko
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 16:30:13
March 07 2011 16:27 GMT
#115
Flash caused 9/11 and sunk the titanic. He also traveled back in time dressed as a rabbi to wedgie Hitler which started WW2. He also has a diet of babies and puppies.

He also killed batman's parents. True facts... heard of a friend of a friend of mine.

But the worst thing is... he plays turtle terran and manipulated a whole generation of terrans into also adopting turtle terran.

On February 21 2011 15:34 Turgid wrote:
So is it strange of me to just be excited about players in general? I think all the TBLS are totally awesome, I think Hydra is awesome, I think Baby is awesome, I think Kal is awesome, etc... I root for every single player in one way or another. Even guys like oDin or Grape, I just want them to do well.


Then you will always, always be a sad fan. For there to be a winner, there has to be a loser. For every champion... there are rubbish stepping stones.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 17:30:15
March 07 2011 17:28 GMT
#116
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Cuz he beat Jaedong today =(
secret - never again
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
March 09 2011 19:19 GMT
#117
On February 18 2011 01:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
Because of his fans?

Because of his anti-fans.
:) I play zerg. FOX AND KT ROLSTER COASTER FAN! Because I love everyone. Except bisu.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
March 09 2011 21:39 GMT
#118
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Because his loss against MBC caused the end of KTFlash's winstreak
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 23:00:32
March 09 2011 22:58 GMT
#119
On March 10 2011 04:19 ibreakurface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 01:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
Because of his fans?

Because of his anti-fans.

You hate Flash because of his anti-fans? I think that's the worse reason I've read yet.

Edit: I thought I already posted in this thread; I don't hate Flash.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 23:28:56
March 09 2011 23:20 GMT
#120
Because Flash is boring to me, not neccesarily how he does ingame(In fact, his TvZ match against Hyun was nothing short of amazing with multipronged drop attacks etc).

But the guy has nothing which appeals to me outside of the gameplay that he does. That, and I am not sure(correct me on this if its not true) but it seems like Flash plays ALOT of TvT's in the leagues(I might be wrong)and they are........boring. Because most of the Flash wins, you know the result but its going to take ~30-40 minutes before its over.

From TLPD

vT: 140-47 (74.87%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W W W W W W W.

He wins every single one but it takes 30-40 min
That and he beat Jaedong, my favorite player atm:<.

Winners league currently:

I count:
13 TvTs
8 TvP's
5 TvZ

WriterXiao8~~
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