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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
February 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#61
man flash isn't boring
if his games are boring, it's because his opponets aren't good enough and just get rolled

nevertheless, i don't like him too much because he is too good
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 21:16:32
February 17 2011 21:14 GMT
#62
I like watching Flash crush souls

despair and futility is what awaits Flash's opponents
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skinnyrl
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands125 Posts
February 17 2011 21:16 GMT
#63
i think this topic is pretty stupid
rly you guys are noobs :D
''Every advantage has it's disadvantage'' Johan Cruyf
skinnyrl
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 21:17:25
February 17 2011 21:17 GMT
#64
flash rly ive seen alot of gamers but he is one of those who just stand out from the rest. Hes a complete player. Prob the best progamer ive seen out of all progamers from all games. He has it all.

''Every advantage has it's disadvantage'' Johan Cruyf
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 21:24:25
February 17 2011 21:23 GMT
#65
On February 18 2011 05:14 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 04:33 Djagulingu wrote:
1- Because there are so few occasions that he does something significant.
2- Because when he wins, it's boring. He does same 2-3 things over and over.
3- Because he needs to make a room for the (P)Big Dawg

And Hyuk is the boss for getting him out of MSL (was it MSL btw)


1) Pretty sure that having the best year ever is fairly significant.
2) He uses a bunch of different builds and strategies, and most players use similar builds over and over. Is Jaedong using a different build every game? Obviously not.
3) It was the OSL.


1- Fuck best year. I want pimp plays, not %80 win loss ratio. That's why i will ALWAYS pick HiyA over Flash, ZerO over Jaedong (and all other SKT Zergs over Jaedong as well) and Kal over Stork (lol this is controversial, but I'm a fan of Stars and STX, so i don't like SBG that much, but his last game against Flash was totally awesome, watch it).
2- He uses 1 single build in TvP. 2 builds in TvZ with 2nd one being used for 5% of the time. I never could resist sleeping in a Flash TvT, so I don't know what he does there.
3- He doesn't make room for the (P)Big Dawg.
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Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
February 17 2011 21:30 GMT
#66
He uses 1 single build in TvP. 2 builds in TvZ with 2nd one being used for 5% of the time.

Bad trolling attempt or you don't follow scbw scene at all. He is one of the most various players.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
February 17 2011 21:41 GMT
#67
1. ANNOYING FANS
2. 14cc'ing like crazy in tvt and tvz. Its the greediest viable opener in starcraft, and its essentially a BO Win.
3. Rax CC in TvP: super greedy build that lets terran get both natural and third before protoss.
4. Playing Terran (Progaming's strongest race)
5. Abusive as hell late game tvz. Basically, any game that goes past 30 minutes with terran on 4 base is going to be autowin for the terran.
6. No emotion. He's mildy happy when he wins, slightly disappointed when he loses. No anger, no sadness, no rage. Boring.
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
February 17 2011 21:51 GMT
#68
Fans are only problem if you hate player. It is not like your love turned into hate after post like "Flash is god".

No emotion. He's mildy happy when he wins, slightly disappointed when he loses. No anger, no sadness, no rage. Boring.

It is called - strong mentality. You can't win with hysterical nature.

Any super greedy play can be punished, right? So, how come he scores 90% winrate with such "unsafe" play-style?

It seems like ppl have a problem with admitting of the real hate reasons.
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
February 17 2011 22:02 GMT
#69
Flash doesn't curb stomp Jaedong, but hes the damper for Jaedong's light. If its wasn't for Flash, Jaedong would've been bonjwa!
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
February 17 2011 22:03 GMT
#70
Jaedong is bonjwa.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 17 2011 22:07 GMT
#71
Because he regularly curbstomps (T)BaBy. Also because he doesn't really seem to have a personality, he's just a robot who plays immaculate Starcraft. Sure, it's pretty to watch, but it gets so boring.

However, every time he beats Bisu he redeems himself a little
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
February 17 2011 22:10 GMT
#72
On February 18 2011 06:41 iamho wrote:
1. ANNOYING FANS
2. 14cc'ing like crazy in tvt and tvz. Its the greediest viable opener in starcraft, and its essentially a BO Win.
3. Rax CC in TvP: super greedy build that lets terran get both natural and third before protoss.
4. Playing Terran (Progaming's strongest race)
5. Abusive as hell late game tvz. Basically, any game that goes past 30 minutes with terran on 4 base is going to be autowin for the terran.
6. No emotion. He's mildy happy when he wins, slightly disappointed when he loses. No anger, no sadness, no rage. Boring.

2) greedier than 12 nex?
4) over the past 3 years terran has had the least amount of different osl/msl finalists, so i'm not sure why you say it's the strongest race.
6) this couldn't be further from the truth.
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Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 22:25:22
February 17 2011 22:24 GMT
#73
Also because he doesn't really seem to have a personality

Yep, I thought in the same way due to his PC interviews. But it seems like in real life he is quite cheerful and easy-going person. There are a lot of pros who are friendly with him, so it looks like he just dosnt want trash talk like Stork =)

Baby makes me sad. He is such a prodigy kid and still can't show best of his.
Current T scene is crumbled, we need more good T players.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
February 17 2011 23:40 GMT
#74
Flash has used so many builds this year, the turtle and push no longer applies. His style is boring not because he does the same thing over and over again, but because he utterly destroys his opponents. Who likes watching a one-sided beat-down?

However, when the opponent is on equal standing with Flash, at least for a particular game, then you get a ridiculous display. Zero vs Flash? Fantasy vs Flash? Those were spectacular.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 17 2011 23:44 GMT
#75
because he wins too much

...
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
February 18 2011 00:23 GMT
#76
Terran is not perfection. Terran is imba.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 18 2011 00:44 GMT
#77
On February 18 2011 06:41 iamho wrote:
1. ANNOYING FANS
2. 14cc'ing like crazy in tvt and tvz. Its the greediest viable opener in starcraft, and its essentially a BO Win.
3. Rax CC in TvP: super greedy build that lets terran get both natural and third before protoss.
4. Playing Terran (Progaming's strongest race)
5. Abusive as hell late game tvz. Basically, any game that goes past 30 minutes with terran on 4 base is going to be autowin for the terran.
6. No emotion. He's mildy happy when he wins, slightly disappointed when he loses. No anger, no sadness, no rage. Boring.



1) All top players have fans that annoy other people.
2) He doesn't 14 CC that often, and protoss players 12 nexus against him all the time. Incidentally, he beats other terran players who 14 CC against him when he doesn't, and other terran players who 14 CC against other races lose all the time.
3) This is the same as your last point. The whole point of the game is to get an advantage. You're basically saying "He does stuff to win, so I hate him."
4) If it weren't for Flash, nobody would say that. Instead, people would be bitching about zerg being overpowered.
5) This is just plain untrue, and you're just repeating yourself again. Ever heard of Flash vs Jaedong on Tau Cross in the WCG?
6) He shows more emotion than many players. Bisu, for example, never shows any emotion. Or Stork after losing to Fantasy. Look at his OSL win over Movie.
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
February 18 2011 01:04 GMT
#78
People hate Flash because he's better than their favourite player which automatically makes him the villain (aka the "emotionless robot", the "turtler", the "cheeser", the "reason why terran is OP").

Me, I think he's a baller for being so damn good in every aspect of the game. He's the player who comes closest to perfection in Starcraft terms.
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DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
February 18 2011 01:04 GMT
#79
Because he can stomp every single player on STX with his mousehand tied behind his back.

He is so good that it is a pleasure to watch (when not playing STX). Still, I was laughing when he GG'd to Ssak and Classic.

Any game where Flash plays at his best and the opponent can give him run for his money, sometimes beating him, easily qualifies for best game of the year. (JD v Flash at Tau Cross comes to mind)
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 18 2011 01:11 GMT
#80
I like Flash, but I think his fans are annoying as hell for not giving credit for Effort's victories over him and making up excuses instead.
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