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ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
March 09 2011 23:42 GMT
#121
On March 10 2011 07:58 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 04:19 ibreakurface wrote:
On February 18 2011 01:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
Because of his fans?

Because of his anti-fans.

You hate Flash because of his anti-fans? I think that's the worse reason I've read yet.

Edit: I thought I already posted in this thread; I don't hate Flash.

It's totally logical! If Flash wasn't around there wouldn't be flash anti-fans.
:) I play zerg. FOX AND KT ROLSTER COASTER FAN! Because I love everyone. Except bisu.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
March 09 2011 23:43 GMT
#122
On March 10 2011 08:20 Kipsate wrote:
Because Flash is boring to me, not neccesarily how he does ingame(In fact, his TvZ match against Hyun was nothing short of amazing with multipronged drop attacks etc).

But the guy has nothing which appeals to me outside of the gameplay that he does. That, and I am not sure(correct me on this if its not true) but it seems like Flash plays ALOT of TvT's in the leagues(I might be wrong)and they are........boring. Because most of the Flash wins, you know the result but its going to take ~30-40 minutes before its over.

From TLPD

vT: 140-47 (74.87%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W W W W W W W.

He wins every single one but it takes 30-40 min
That and he beat Jaedong, my favorite player atm:<.

Winners league currently:

I count:
13 TvTs
8 TvP's
5 TvZ


How can you even blame Flash for playing TvT in WL when the only reason he does so is because his opponents are trying to tire him out, not because he wanted to or planned to do so?
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 00:00:23
March 09 2011 23:59 GMT
#123
On February 18 2011 01:12 Kiante wrote:
edit: also, he doesn't have a winning record against everyone.
see: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=424&part=games&league=standard&vs=P#tblt-7952-1-default-0-m18m

good day for m18m fans!

Stork has a winning record as well.

Now he has one, at least.
skinnyrl
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands125 Posts
March 10 2011 00:30 GMT
#124
well kipsate thats because maybe other players are good to?
ever thought about that
''Every advantage has it's disadvantage'' Johan Cruyf
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 10 2011 08:19 GMT
#125
On March 10 2011 08:43 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 08:20 Kipsate wrote:
Because Flash is boring to me, not neccesarily how he does ingame(In fact, his TvZ match against Hyun was nothing short of amazing with multipronged drop attacks etc).

But the guy has nothing which appeals to me outside of the gameplay that he does. That, and I am not sure(correct me on this if its not true) but it seems like Flash plays ALOT of TvT's in the leagues(I might be wrong)and they are........boring. Because most of the Flash wins, you know the result but its going to take ~30-40 minutes before its over.

From TLPD

vT: 140-47 (74.87%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W W W W W W W.

He wins every single one but it takes 30-40 min
That and he beat Jaedong, my favorite player atm:<.

Winners league currently:

I count:
13 TvTs
8 TvP's
5 TvZ


How can you even blame Flash for playing TvT in WL when the only reason he does so is because his opponents are trying to tire him out, not because he wanted to or planned to do so?


I can't blame him for it, but it still makes him boring to me, because all he has to do is play TvT due to his opponents.
WriterXiao8~~
Never.Die
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan189 Posts
March 10 2011 08:27 GMT
#126
Flash is a God, stop hating on him. Flash> everyone in existence.
This is Aru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States91 Posts
March 17 2011 20:55 GMT
#127
He reminds me of Adobe, and then I get sad.
aka Kasaaz
Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-20 21:41:13
March 20 2011 21:40 GMT
#128
I hate Flash because I don't enjoy games with foregone conclusions. Just like you don't particularly find enjoyment in playing games against friends much worse than you in that you can do whatever and still win. Every game with Flash is just him killing his opponent in some variety of ways. Starcraft was more interesting to watch before he wasn't dominating.
There is but one truth.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
March 20 2011 22:14 GMT
#129
On February 18 2011 02:25 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 02:18 KasPra wrote:
On February 18 2011 01:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
Because of his fans?


Wait how does that even make sense lol

to be fair, i'm pretty sure that's why i hate Bisu

that is also more or less why i hate bisu

hate flash because many games are boring turtling. that, and up until recently the same player (well, jaedong occasionally, but still) winning all the time makes for less interesting tournaments
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 20 2011 23:27 GMT
#130
On March 21 2011 06:40 Ecrilon wrote:
I hate Flash because I don't enjoy games with foregone conclusions. Just like you don't particularly find enjoyment in playing games against friends much worse than you in that you can do whatever and still win. Every game with Flash is just him killing his opponent in some variety of ways. Starcraft was more interesting to watch before he wasn't dominating.


Funny, I thought most periods of BW history have had some kind of bonjwa to rule the day, and if what people say about them is any indication, they seemed even more invincible than Flash.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
March 21 2011 00:18 GMT
#131
On March 21 2011 08:27 Turgid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 06:40 Ecrilon wrote:
I hate Flash because I don't enjoy games with foregone conclusions. Just like you don't particularly find enjoyment in playing games against friends much worse than you in that you can do whatever and still win. Every game with Flash is just him killing his opponent in some variety of ways. Starcraft was more interesting to watch before he wasn't dominating.


Funny, I thought most periods of BW history have had some kind of bonjwa to rule the day, and if what people say about them is any indication, they seemed even more invincible than Flash.

Not true. If you look at any of the other bonjwas at their peak, you find lower win percentages than Flash. Most notably, you don't see so many finals appearances in a row in combination with 90 some percent wins in Proleague. That being said, I was never fond of the other bonjwas either. Boxer is the exception, but I really don't see how anyone could fail to like Boxer.
There is but one truth.
Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
March 21 2011 01:20 GMT
#132
Most annoying HM ever (for me at least).

In all seriousness, because he won too much too closely together. Never was a fan of that kind of dominance.
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