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znowstorm
Australia281 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On January 16 2011 13:15 rysecake wrote: Actually, having the same player win over and over is what leads to a high number of viewers. Think about it, what we really want to see is a bonjwa. To have someone like Flash/Jaedong completely destroy everybody else. Makes for excitement. People will really go out of their way to contradict other peoples on the internet. Didn't you figured you were perhaps wrong when you typed your last sentence ? "To have someone like Flash/Jaedong completely destroy everybody else. Makes for excitement." So being sure of the results beforehand makes for excitement ? No. Rivalry makes for excitement. Having one guy killing everyone for months makes for intense boredom and droping viewers. 2 months ago, everyone was praying that flash lose because he made everything boring. | ||
how2TL
1197 Posts
This must happen. | ||
nick1689
Australia494 Posts
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Vehemus
United States586 Posts
On January 16 2011 15:59 MrCon wrote: People will really go out of their way to contradict other peoples on the internet. Didn't you figured you were perhaps wrong when you typed your last sentence ? "To have someone like Flash/Jaedong completely destroy everybody else. Makes for excitement." So being sure of the results beforehand makes for excitement ? No. Rivalry makes for excitement. Having one guy killing everyone for months makes for intense boredom and droping viewers. 2 months ago, everyone was praying that flash lose because he made everything boring. Yeah, everyone thinks it's boring when it's happening. They hate that the player always wins yet they start tuning in every single time to see if someone beats them. Then, when that player's reign is finally over, everybody always ends up thinking back to how good that player was and how amazing it was to see them dominate the competition. It's a fact that while dynasties are generally hated in sports while they're at the top, they're talked about because they make history. A little parity is a good thing, but a sport or esport being a crapshoot where a different person wins each match or tournament makes for far less entertaining results over time. | ||
Gonzodamus
United States273 Posts
Okay, I'll say more. When he was matched up against MC the first time, my friends and I were devastated. Based on their history, I thought it would be over right there. When he was matched against MC the second time, I was worried that the first win would be a one time thing. Nope. Turns out Jinro's just that damn good. Can't wait to see Jinro vs. Idra. I know who my money's on. Figuratively anyway. It's on Jinro. | ||
Sniffy
Australia290 Posts
On January 16 2011 13:15 rysecake wrote: Actually, having the same player win over and over is what leads to a high number of viewers. Think about it, what we really want to see is a bonjwa. To have someone like Flash/Jaedong completely destroy everybody else. Makes for excitement. What would lead to a high number of viewers is people actually playing skillfully rather than pulling their workers and crossing their fingers. Why players like Rainbow resort to trash play like that is beyond me. I'm glad he got beaten, and I hope everyone who tries crap like that gets stomped on. The sooner it dies the sooner we can see more games like the ones Jinro and Idra play regularly. | ||
Somnolence
Lithuania127 Posts
On January 16 2011 17:45 Sniffy wrote: Why players like Rainbow resort to trash play like that is beyond me. I'm glad he got beaten, and I hope everyone who tries crap like that gets stomped on. The sooner it dies the sooner we can see more games like the ones Jinro and Idra play regularly. Rainbow was beyond disappointing. His TvP strat that he did not want to revea vs NEXGenius was... hidden expo. | ||
JakeBurton
74 Posts
On January 16 2011 19:11 Somnolence wrote: Rainbow was beyond disappointing. His TvP strat that he did not want to revea vs NEXGenius was... hidden expo. To be honest, when I saw it go down I was really impressed. I definitely thought that it was a pretty ballsy solution to grab a lead in a game against a better player without resorting to retarded bunker rushing. + Show Spoiler + Rainbow did get killed but to be fair that heavy sentry push by MC kills an awful lot of great terrans. | ||
AzureD
United States320 Posts
On January 16 2011 03:49 theherder2 wrote: Exactly! To everyone comparing MC's first and second game. The first composition was sentry, STALKER against MM in bunkers, the FFs are to keep the units from running away as well as prevent repairing. In Jinro's game, MC had a sentry ZEALOT composition vs only one bunker and TANKS. If he FF the bunker then the tanks would eat up the zealots like nothing. There was also a turret on the high ground to prevent more lifting by the phoenixes, their high dps with low phoenix health would destroy the air force. That is why he spent more energy on guardian shield instead, to reduce the splash damage of the tanks which would do more damage to his units than just a bunker. It was NOT a mistake, it was his strategy and thought process which failed. Guardian Shield is useless against splash damage. It does no reduction as it is not treated as a ranged attack. In fact against mech it pretty much has no effect what-so-ever. I think he could have used FF to block the bunker from being repaired without blocking the path to the siege tanks. I think MC just did not execute his attack as well as he could have. | ||
Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On January 16 2011 17:35 Vehemus wrote: Yeah, everyone thinks it's boring when it's happening. They hate that the player always wins yet they start tuning in every single time to see if someone beats them. Then, when that player's reign is finally over, everybody always ends up thinking back to how good that player was and how amazing it was to see them dominate the competition. It's a fact that while dynasties are generally hated in sports while they're at the top, they're talked about because they make history. A little parity is a good thing, but a sport or esport being a crapshoot where a different person wins each match or tournament makes for far less entertaining results over time. Different views, different opinions. Besides you are comparing two extremes. Having one player dominate the scene is boring and having a ton of them win all the time is boring as well, but having a mix of 3 or 4 players who consistently prove themselves above the rest is what makes for an exciting competition. At the very least have one great player for every race to increase rivalry between the races and players as well. Add in a dark horse and you have yourself a real competition. | ||
Eggcake
Switzerland722 Posts
That was really amazing. I never expected that. I hope Jinro gets even further, that was so impressive - every single game! And competition is good. I'm swiss, so obviously I'm a big fan of Federer. Having him dominate the scene was really nice, he played just so awesome. But having competition with Nadal and other very good players is the best thing that happened. And seriously: I don't want to see players get roflstomped. Of course it's fun to watch, but it's over quickly and it gets boring. I rather see a 5-set match with tie breaks than a 3 set match with 6-1 and 6-0 wins. | ||
dart06
United States3 Posts
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sammler
United Kingdom381 Posts
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On January 16 2011 20:45 dart06 wrote: Just wanted to post in here to say congrats to Jinro. He played amazing against MC. I'm glad I got to see it live. There weren't many non-koreans there, so I had to step it up. Thanks for the picture Jinro! Glad to see the directions worked! And if that was after the fact, I think you ended up in the stream for a few seconds. | ||
fryy
Australia103 Posts
SO AWESOME JINRO!!! Beating MC 2-0 after what he did to you last season... wow. What a turn-around. Congrats!! Really enjoyable games. | ||
dart06
United States3 Posts
On January 16 2011 22:17 Taf the Ghost wrote: Glad to see the directions worked! And if that was after the fact, I think you ended up in the stream for a few seconds. Yeah they did. I was on the stream a few times. Well, in the backround anyway. Huk was there too. | ||
Dakmaniac
212 Posts
overall a damn good performance !!! | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On January 16 2011 20:45 dart06 wrote: Just wanted to post in here to say congrats to Jinro. He played amazing against MC. I'm glad I got to see it live. There weren't many non-koreans there, so I had to step it up. Thanks for the picture Jinro! Man you could have at least smiled when standing next to arguably the best foreigner at the moment (don't rage - i said arguably) .. Awesome pic - so amazing you got to meet him hehe Go go Jinro Ro8 hwaiting!! | ||
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