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Kinky
United States4126 Posts
Change the way broodlings work. Instead of creating a unit, make the unit stick to the head of the target (like in alien lol) but it can still be killed and dies after X time. That sounds like an interesting solution. The broodlings more or less become a DoT spell like fungal growth/plague and there wouldn't be some impenetrable meat shield to stop ground AA from attacking the broodlords. | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
On April 19 2010 15:51 Simple wrote: i notice you totally neglect using cost/resources as a possible solution. if could be made more expensive or take longer to build This isnt a opion cause we want units that can be killed or countered effectly if you just make them more expensive that doesn't mean the units es better balance... is just means that would take longer for the user to get the imba unit | ||
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On April 19 2010 15:51 Kinky wrote: That sounds like an interesting solution. The broodlings more or less become a DoT spell like fungal growth/plague and there wouldn't be some impenetrable meat shield to stop ground AA from attacking the broodlords. which is essentially the same thing as making broodlings clip through all units. | ||
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CakeOrI)eath
United States327 Posts
On April 19 2010 15:39 Zaphid wrote: Aren't there some rules for topics like this ? Anyway, they have weaknesses, mainly the thing that they can't attack top of the tree units like BC and Carriers, which is what they should be compared to. Also, don't forget that if you nerf them too much, there is simply no other go-to unit for zerg beyond mass of hydras/roaches spiced with some other stuff and people are getting sick of that already. I disagree that they are weak to BC and Carriers. Corruptors are probably the most cost effective thing in the game vs BC and Carriers. Since you kinda have to get corruptors to get BLs, if you scout capital ships you just have to morph 5-6 BL to stop any ground counter and then keep your corruptors around. The only things that I have seen work against BL are stalkers with blink to get underneath them and avoud the broodling wall supported by collosi to reduce the dps of the broodlings. Even this strat is probably not cost effective but idk. No other go-to unit? I kinda miss seeing ultras. I realize they kinda suck, but from what I can tell thats mostly because if you are going to invest that many resources into teching you might as well get the imbalord. Ultra-hydra-ling sounds kinda nasty actually... if a little gas heavy. I might have to try it out vs a friend. | ||
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trueg0x
South Africa86 Posts
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CakeOrI)eath
United States327 Posts
On April 19 2010 15:55 CharlieMurphy wrote: which is essentially the same thing as making broodlings clip through all units. I think there is a difference. A DoT doenst attack other units after its first target dies while a unit with clipping does. Against a terran bio ball i could see this becoming a pretty significant difference. | ||
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NoNoNoNoNyoron
United States78 Posts
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EmeraldSparks
United States1451 Posts
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blackbean
Canada43 Posts
My suggestion for a fix would be make the broodlings an autocast spell. This changes two things: Firstly, broodlings are no longer spawning indefinitely, you have to make a conscious decision of when to use them. Secondly it gives other players another way to counter them other than having to bum rush the broodlords with their entire army, with emp or feedback as the broodlords now operate on energy, and cannot reach full damage potential without the energy to cast broodlings. | ||
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Novembermike
United States102 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
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zomgzergrush
United States923 Posts
On April 19 2010 15:37 Two_DoWn wrote: If memory serves correctly I believe that the consensus among top players (artosis, louder, LZ, Day9) was that the best way to fix the unit was to simply make it so that broodlings did no damage, and that just messing with the auto target was enough. By that logic, the carrier interceptors should be low priority and all units should automatically attack the carriers. Mass stalkers -> blink MM/thors/vikings -> no explanation needed here. | ||
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
I don't want to redesign the scope of your thread Charlie, but I think this issue should be addressed alongside. To me, it's not so much that Broodlords are completely imbalanced vis-a-vis the other races, but that they are imbalanced compared to the ultralisk. If there was a better balance between them, I think zerg as a whole would be more interesting. Now balancing the ultra and the broodlord together might involved a broodlord nerf (imo probably so) but I think we shouldn't just focus on the broodlord in isolation with the other races, but also in it's role in the zerg race as a whole. | ||
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Turbo.Tactics
Germany675 Posts
As for countering them I'll say what tossplayers said to me when I lost to Carriers as terran: "Well....just don't let me get them in a larger number..." The only thing a Boordlordnerf would be good for, is so that Zergplayers start to appreciate Ultralisks. | ||
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faction123
Australia949 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
On April 19 2010 16:19 CharlieMurphy wrote: I agree, ultra sucks. but that's another thread I dunno, I think the balance between the two third tier units is of vital importance, and shouldn't really be discussed separately, but it's your thread, I won't derail it anymore (: (: | ||
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huun
Turkey58 Posts
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