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Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 15 2009 16:30 randomKo_Orean wrote: He has attitude of most USA A players, without the skill.
you don't know any usa a players if you think this is true
for someone calling a guy out for talking out of his ass and saying ridiculous shit, this is pretty bad
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On March 15 2009 21:32 MagisterMan wrote: Dude... chill out :O .
On Topic: In 3v3 P is strong as hell. Just mass zeal and take out 1 player. Then go carriers. Carriers? I dont play BGH but I play hunters and if you get 3v2 early you could get plowed by a T that moves out with M&M with stim or some opponent teched and thats why his ally died and he for some reason manage to take one of you guys out. I assume noone countered you while you killed that guy on the other team. Also it's just not "build a bunch of zeals" buildorders and timing is wery complex. But carriers seems like a pubbie thing. I might be really really wrong tho.
EDIT:Oh I forgot the part where if you all go mass zeal one opponent gets up his goons and hurts you pretty badly. ect ect.
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On March 16 2009 01:19 Equinox_kr wrote: BEST. THREAD. EVER. You kinda get that when you have enough east players in one thread. Most BGH players play on east if I my information is correct.
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This thread turned awesome.
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LOL HAHA WOW
The people were talking shit about him then he comes in and proves they were exactly right haha wow.
Edit: funny that he called randomkor 5'0" when he is like 6 feet tall or something and huge, or at least he is in my perspective since I'm only 5'6"
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Vatican City State21 Posts
On March 16 2009 03:29 Fontong wrote: LOL HAHA WOW
The people were talking shit about him then he comes in and proves they were exactly right haha wow.
Edit: funny that he called randomkor 5'0" when he is like 6 feet tall or something and huge, or at least he is in my perspective since I'm only 5'6"
It's not talking shit, it's just 100% the truth. There are quite a few sociopaths who are just as bad or worse than surfer. Just so you know their names, they're protech_marine (aka: Fiji, Aeon.Wind, A_wing_X) and Coogi (aka dope, ceo). These are like Surfer's "main rivals" and they're all legitimately fucked in the head.
I had this in my original post but I wanted to make it about Surfer so I took it out, but here's my take on 1v1 on BGH:
Extremely imbalanced. #1, there are 8 positions on the map. You can imagine how stupid it is when you manage to scout them last. Zerg is shitty on BGH no matter how you slice it; only way you'll win with Zerg is if you get lucky with some sort of rush i.e. 9 pool and they are bad at defending, 1 hatch lurkers, w/e, or if you are simply just much better than they are at 1v1. I would say that T > P with equal or high skilled players, but generally speaking there are so many tricks and things that P can do on BGH that P will generally win more often than T.
The most imbalanced 1v1 matchup on BGH would be TvZ, because the T will just absolutely destroy the Z. So I'd go with Peter's ranking except I'd say that say from D to A- P > T and from A- + T > P (completely arbitrary ranks, obviously nobody is A-, just using the ranks to illustrate the "most of the time P wins, at high levels T probably wins more).
On March 16 2009 01:23 Eatme wrote:You kinda get that when you have enough east players in one thread. Most BGH players play on east if I my information is correct.
What a stupid thing to say.
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At one point I was really hoping that surfer was just an act, but apparently he is legitimately stupid. I like how he just comes into the thread and COMPLETELY proves WildRed to be correct.
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if you guys like threads like this just go to bghers.com it's basically a bunch of dumbasses like surfer and coogi being dumb and then people trying to argue with them, then eventually realizing it's futile because they are borderline retarded.
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On March 13 2009 22:05 2Pacalypse- wrote: - average intelligence of tl's members is among highest from all other forums I've ever encountered.
from why tl is the best thread
i think it just went down a little
then of course that guy isnt a part of tl
bgh/hunters 1v1 is a joke. position and race imbalances. T will kill everything. T dies in 3v3 because they get double/triple rushed. but in 1v1, that wont happen. over many games, T will win the most. maybe drop a few to 11 vs 12 tvz and lose to 9 pool.
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wow that guy is impressive
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Dominican Republic463 Posts
holy shit this turned awesome... On a side note I didnt even know bghers.com existed haha, I visited the site and my head exploded just from the front page.
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Damn, surfer, and I thought you were a cool guy. You either accidentally typo a lot of racist slurs and other immature obscenities, or you're really an idiot. It's hard to believe that anyone is this stupid though, so I'm thinking you just typo a lot.
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On March 16 2009 09:36 dddrrreee wrote: Damn, surfer, and I thought you were a cool guy. You either accidentally typo a lot of racist slurs and other immature obscenities, or you're really an idiot. It's hard to believe that anyone is this stupid though, so I'm thinking you just typo a lot.
lol you better believe it. This is just an extremely small sample of some of the nonsensical bullshit surfer's un evolved mind comes up with.
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Ah bravo. And I thought I was the only one who thought he was a retard. Thought he was the most popular guy on east or something for showing up in motel or )v( with everyone on his case, but it seems its quite the latter.
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United States3824 Posts
Man, I wish I was that good at BGH lol.
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lol sup guys i miss this so much
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Braavos36362 Posts
On March 16 2009 14:57 cgrinker wrote: Man, I wish I was that good at BGH lol. its actually pretty easy to be decent at BGH, you only really need 3 builds to be "passable" as an ally:
- 3 gate zeal and don't stop macroing - 9pool speed and get to 3 hatches and more lings - wall in and 3 factory vulture with mines and speed eventually
if you can do all three of those without missing supply depots or worker production, you automatically are decent at bgh. obviously there's a skill curve and there are many bghers who are way better than that (see the showmatch we had with them for proof), but if you want to play casual in house 3v3 you can at least not make your team autolose if you can do those builds.
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If it was TvP. T at 3 and P at 9. with players of the same skill who has better chance of winning? (say after 100 games, what's the winning %) What about T at 9 and P at 3?
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Vatican City State21 Posts
At 3 the bottom of the protoss base can be tanked from the 5 base and one gas/any buildings below that gas killed. Both the 3 and the 9 nats can be tanked from behind. I don't really see a big difference between the TvP and PvT at 3v9, it's about the same. There is more buildable/more easily buildable areas at the 3 base, which is more helpful for P.
Assuming equal caliber players I'd say T wins 60% of the time, but at very high levels, T wins 75+% of the time. Protoss can do a lot of cheesy/tricky things on BGH, from breaking the wall with power goon build to dual dt/reaver drops etc, because there's 2 gasses really fast. The faster mineral income also allows for faster macro and legs and all that. A patient, steady terran can basically stop anything P can throw at him, forcing P to go carriers a lot of the time. Of course, on BGH, BO's are not as defined as they are on low money, where you have BO's going into the hundreds of pop and very specific times to make things based on number of probes etc; since BGH is never really played at that kind of level nobody has ever really been that detailed about the optimal BGH macro build, or dt build, or whatever.
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