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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
March 16 2009 20:22 GMT
#221
Thank you.
I liked how you played the 3v3 ( and i hated Testie because he made you lose the 2v2 ) during the showmatch vs the Korean bw site.
Your macro seemed solid ^^
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
March 16 2009 20:24 GMT
#222
On March 17 2009 05:22 Boblion wrote:
Thank you.
I liked how you played the 3v3 ( and i hated Testie because he made you lose the 2v2 ) during the showmatch vs the Korean bw site.
Your macro seemed solid ^^

As much fun as it would be to blame Testie (and nick definitely deserves lots of blame for things wrong with the world in general!), the 2v2 was my bad for dying when I shouldn't have
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 20:34:17
March 16 2009 20:32 GMT
#223
lol Testie shouldn't have played terran in a 2v2 and get contained by photons
Especially because his best race is P ( imo )
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
March 16 2009 20:37 GMT
#224
Surfer is quite a clown. I enjoy reading his incoherent nonsense because he actually believes what he types. He also really hates midgets for no reason at all.
Person514cs
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1004 Posts
March 17 2009 00:09 GMT
#225
On March 16 2009 16:09 WildRed wrote:
At 3 the bottom of the protoss base can be tanked from the 5 base and one gas/any buildings below that gas killed. Both the 3 and the 9 nats can be tanked from behind. I don't really see a big difference between the TvP and PvT at 3v9, it's about the same. There is more buildable/more easily buildable areas at the 3 base, which is more helpful for P.

Assuming equal caliber players I'd say T wins 60% of the time, but at very high levels, T wins 75+% of the time. Protoss can do a lot of cheesy/tricky things on BGH, from breaking the wall with power goon build to dual dt/reaver drops etc, because there's 2 gasses really fast. The faster mineral income also allows for faster macro and legs and all that. A patient, steady terran can basically stop anything P can throw at him, forcing P to go carriers a lot of the time. Of course, on BGH, BO's are not as defined as they are on low money, where you have BO's going into the hundreds of pop and very specific times to make things based on number of probes etc; since BGH is never really played at that kind of level nobody has ever really been that detailed about the optimal BGH macro build, or dt build, or whatever.


That's very interesting. I had no idea Terran metal balls are so powerful in bgh. I personally have never seen a high level 1v1 bgh TvP that developed into a macro war, so I have no idea. Is 3 gas heavy metal timing push really that powerful in bgh? Any body else have any insight? (why is his guy banned, by the way?)
Peace and love, for ever.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
March 17 2009 00:39 GMT
#226
just imagine a big terran push with upgrades where 1. the toss has very, very limited flanking options and 2. the terran has cliffs to abuse, including ones that can hit naturals and even mains (the corner bases)

as for wildred, previously banned user policy
i must say he is a pleasant fellow to play with on bnet though!
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 17 2009 00:40 GMT
#227
On March 17 2009 05:32 Boblion wrote:
lol Testie shouldn't have played terran in a 2v2 and get contained by photons
Especially because his best race is P ( imo )


Don't be retarded.
If Mondragon were protoss that shit never would have happened.
Don't blame me for shitty allies.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
March 17 2009 01:06 GMT
#228
On March 17 2009 09:40 MYM.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2009 05:32 Boblion wrote:
lol Testie shouldn't have played terran in a 2v2 and get contained by photons
Especially because his best race is P ( imo )


Don't be retarded.
If Mondragon were protoss that shit never would have happened.
Don't blame me for shitty allies.

lol, niceee.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
March 17 2009 01:09 GMT
#229
On March 17 2009 09:40 MYM.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2009 05:32 Boblion wrote:
lol Testie shouldn't have played terran in a 2v2 and get contained by photons
Especially because his best race is P ( imo )


Don't be retarded.
If Mondragon were protoss that shit never would have happened.
Don't blame me for shitty allies.

<3


Btw those replays vs surfer are hilarious. All <12 mins rapes lol.
And i loved the "TL" sign with pylons :p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Person514cs
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1004 Posts
March 17 2009 01:39 GMT
#230
On March 17 2009 09:39 intrigue wrote:
just imagine a big terran push with upgrades where 1. the toss has very, very limited flanking options and 2. the terran has cliffs to abuse, including ones that can hit naturals and even mains (the corner bases)

as for wildred, previously banned user policy
i must say he is a pleasant fellow to play with on bnet though!


So, I am guessing that at pro level, bgh is a terran favorite map 1v1? There is some thing a protoss can do to stop the first big push with out losing too much? I would think arbiter would be effective because it would cause the Terran to always leave some units at home incase of the recalls + it can freeze a big group of tanks, thous greatly reduce the power of its main group.

But it is after all a money map where gas and money never runs out. The macro part of the game should be very different from a normal map at late game. Any one have high level 1v1 TvP bgh replays? I really want to see if Terran dominate this map as much as everyone say it is.
Peace and love, for ever.
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 03:04:25
March 17 2009 03:03 GMT
#231
On March 16 2009 23:33 fuckyoufaggot wrote:
random korean = luke, listen here faggot and this is for the record.. ur fuckin a short midet, compared to me.. im 5'10-5'11, im not tall enough 2 b a model ?? rofl, bitch ur an idiot, first of all, when we smoked cigarrettes outside.. u never ONCE.. said anything harsh at all to me, u asked me why do i bm online, and my answer was because i simply can, u never said shit about" hey if u dont stop bming " im going to have to punch ur face in.. ur a scared little bitch man, u talk shit online but in real life, u dont got the balls to get knocked in the face. u got the balls give me ur phone number again cause i didnt save it we can go 1v1, and then post reps on here and youtube. what do u say ?? ok no ?? then stfu period and keep my mouth out your name little boy, u aint paying for shit with your schooling boy', ur parents are paying everything - u dont got no job.

i doubt u got the balls to give me ur #.. what i really cant belive is how are u going to come at me with saying " o i hate how hes bm and its in real life ect.. " when u in fact were like on my fuckin jock.. u 2sided son of a bitch faggot. constantly bumming cigarettes off me because u cant afford none - you broke joke.

and 2 IDRA.. kid ur nothing
u obvsiouly got 2 much fame and glory for u 2 b declared the best T in usa ?? ROFL.. kid my mm is x2 urs .. remember that game we had on luna a while back.. i didnt even know what race u played.. this was on west in op tl.. we played luna tvp, and ur shit got raped gg 11 mins..

dude look congrats with all your fame but, seriously u need to watch some of my hunters reps, im mm is way more advanced / cordinated than yours.. yosh has better mm control then u definitely.. iM not trying to get u down at all man, seriously im not hateing.. but tvt hunters match woudlnt hurt anything me and u.. u down ? bo3.. since ur so busy --;


O AND 1 LAST THING --

yeha luke, thanks for smurfing last night u faggot on p_j_h

4-2 last night guys, and i kept the best rep .. which was a 25 min tvt.. this kid lost 3-0 tvt, rofl


its posted on bghers.com @
http://bghers.com/node/264

and hr)insane..
yeah we'd b glad to play u guys 2v2.. bgh just msg.. i said u are the #1 bgh player.. from seeing some more of your reps.. its pretty clear.. id like to 1v1 u again without u smurfing and then telling me later o this is malini.. that was pretty bm. so next time try to not hide yourself, because its kind weak.


idra you have to play this kid... it would be fockin hilarious

EDIT: lol you should play with share vision one game just for kicks
"Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 17 2009 11:59 GMT
#232
?
why on earth would i play him
if he wants to put money on it, and we give the money to a third party before the games, sure
otherwise hes a waste of time
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
1a2a1t2t
Profile Joined March 2009
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 14:14:23
March 17 2009 13:39 GMT
#233
Mod Edit: Hi I'm a big moron.
1a2a1t2t
Profile Joined March 2009
United States2 Posts
March 17 2009 14:00 GMT
#234
nah dude idra, i wouldnt want you to put any money up front period, i understand ur in a higher "level" then i am, and theres simply nothing to prove to an amature, whos been playing the same map for over 11 years.

i really dont care if u would like to play me or not.. my question is really " how did you become the declared best T in usa, when my mm control is far more advanced than yours + yosh tvp and tvz pwns urs ez "...

thats all im saying man, but gl in korea training 46 hrs a day ROFL.. gg
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25986 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-17 14:15:16
March 17 2009 14:15 GMT
#235
Oh I should add that I made that mod edit so you know who to shank when shit gets real.
Moderator
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
March 17 2009 14:25 GMT
#236
When keeping it real goes wrong.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25986 Posts
March 17 2009 14:55 GMT
#237
Even though this is hillarious, I'm going to close it because it's served its purpose.
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