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United States44275 Posts
On March 16 2009 20:44 FireEagle wrote:
If you want to win on this map, simply play terran. Static defense+battlecruisers. Block the choke with a supply+rax, make a bunker behind the supply, second supply where the rax was, thirs supply, if necessary, near the second, to complete the block. Make a factory with addon, make marines meanwhile. In the end you will have a row of supplies, followed by a row of bunkers and some siege tanks behind. Then go battlecruisers. Because of this defense, any ground atack won't work. Melee units will be delayed by the supplies and will fall to the marines in bunker and siege tanks. Ranged units will have to be clustered to atack the tanks. This blocking is verry effective against everything except all-in mutas. When you have a critical mass of battlecruisers simply 1a and it's gg.
I see no flaws with this plan.
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On March 16 2009 20:04 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2009 19:55 IdrA wrote:On March 16 2009 19:42 Kwark wrote:On March 16 2009 19:05 IdrA wrote:On March 16 2009 18:53 Kwark wrote:
It always amuses me how bghers have pride. not everyone has the skill the be a cheesy protoss. And those that don't pick terran and whine about it. On a related note Greg, do you think you would have qualified for a starleague by now if you played Protoss? i dunno about a starleague but i would be 'better' (able to win more) than i am now as terran So what you're saying is that before each game you sit there and think "yeah, I'll handicap myself, winning games is for losers" and then pick Terran? And then you blame Protoss players for not doing the same? How does that work? Surely then, by picking Terran you're getting it wrong and by the same token they're getting it right with Protoss. Complaining to people that they keep outsmarting you on the race selection option is almost as silly as maintaining that you were too good to beat an awful build. It's hardly their fault. If you're after a handicap couldn't you just play Protoss and kill one of your starting probes or not use dragoons or something?
what im saying is if id had almost a year of practice in a pro team with protoss thatd be the case, obviously my terran is currently better than my protoss. they wouldnt allow a race switch. before i came to korea i did indeed switch over to pvt a month or 2 before wcg usa. was 1 game from getting out of an all terran group in wcg usa on 2 months of practice. definitely a tough race to play.
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United States44275 Posts
On March 16 2009 21:21 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2009 20:04 Kwark wrote:On March 16 2009 19:55 IdrA wrote:On March 16 2009 19:42 Kwark wrote:On March 16 2009 19:05 IdrA wrote:On March 16 2009 18:53 Kwark wrote:
It always amuses me how bghers have pride. not everyone has the skill the be a cheesy protoss. And those that don't pick terran and whine about it. On a related note Greg, do you think you would have qualified for a starleague by now if you played Protoss? i dunno about a starleague but i would be 'better' (able to win more) than i am now as terran So what you're saying is that before each game you sit there and think "yeah, I'll handicap myself, winning games is for losers" and then pick Terran? And then you blame Protoss players for not doing the same? How does that work? Surely then, by picking Terran you're getting it wrong and by the same token they're getting it right with Protoss. Complaining to people that they keep outsmarting you on the race selection option is almost as silly as maintaining that you were too good to beat an awful build. It's hardly their fault. If you're after a handicap couldn't you just play Protoss and kill one of your starting probes or not use dragoons or something? what im saying is if id had almost a year of practice in a pro team with protoss thatd be the case, obviously my terran is currently better than my protoss. they wouldnt allow a race switch. before i came to korea i did indeed switch over to pvt a month or 2 before wcg usa. was 1 game from getting out of an all terran group in wcg usa on 2 months of practice. definitely a tough race to play.
Care to explain why Terrans have historically always done far better than Protoss players? Are all Terran's just naturally gifted far beyond the abilities of any Protoss player? If so, do the more gifted individuals somehow all choose Terran in order to give the appearance of balance or does the act of choosing Terran somehow make them superhuman?
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On March 16 2009 20:44 FireEagle wrote:
If you want to win on this map, simply play terran. Static defense+battlecruisers. Block the choke with a supply+rax, make a bunker behind the supply, second supply where the rax was, thirs supply, if necessary, near the second, to complete the block. Make a factory with addon, make marines meanwhile. In the end you will have a row of supplies, followed by a row of bunkers and some siege tanks behind. Then go battlecruisers. Because of this defense, any ground atack won't work. Melee units will be delayed by the supplies and will fall to the marines in bunker and siege tanks. Ranged units will have to be clustered to atack the tanks. This blocking is verry effective against everything except all-in mutas. When you have a critical mass of battlecruisers simply 1a and it's gg.
lol.
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On March 16 2009 22:04 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2009 21:21 IdrA wrote:On March 16 2009 20:04 Kwark wrote:On March 16 2009 19:55 IdrA wrote:On March 16 2009 19:42 Kwark wrote:On March 16 2009 19:05 IdrA wrote:On March 16 2009 18:53 Kwark wrote:
It always amuses me how bghers have pride. not everyone has the skill the be a cheesy protoss. And those that don't pick terran and whine about it. On a related note Greg, do you think you would have qualified for a starleague by now if you played Protoss? i dunno about a starleague but i would be 'better' (able to win more) than i am now as terran So what you're saying is that before each game you sit there and think "yeah, I'll handicap myself, winning games is for losers" and then pick Terran? And then you blame Protoss players for not doing the same? How does that work? Surely then, by picking Terran you're getting it wrong and by the same token they're getting it right with Protoss. Complaining to people that they keep outsmarting you on the race selection option is almost as silly as maintaining that you were too good to beat an awful build. It's hardly their fault. If you're after a handicap couldn't you just play Protoss and kill one of your starting probes or not use dragoons or something? what im saying is if id had almost a year of practice in a pro team with protoss thatd be the case, obviously my terran is currently better than my protoss. they wouldnt allow a race switch. before i came to korea i did indeed switch over to pvt a month or 2 before wcg usa. was 1 game from getting out of an all terran group in wcg usa on 2 months of practice. definitely a tough race to play. Care to explain why Terrans have historically always done far better than Protoss players? Are all Terran's just naturally gifted far beyond the abilities of any Protoss player? If so, do the more gifted individuals somehow all choose Terran in order to give the appearance of balance or does the act of choosing Terran somehow make them superhuman?
obviously its because certain players happened to choose terran
protoss raped everything for like 2 seasons after bisu showed all the other retards that the 3 best harass units in the game and the fastest transport in the game make a pretty fuckin good combo.
terran has not historically done well. nada oov and boxer have historically done well.
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United States44275 Posts
On March 16 2009 22:20 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2009 22:04 Kwark wrote:On March 16 2009 21:21 IdrA wrote:On March 16 2009 20:04 Kwark wrote:On March 16 2009 19:55 IdrA wrote:On March 16 2009 19:42 Kwark wrote:On March 16 2009 19:05 IdrA wrote:On March 16 2009 18:53 Kwark wrote:
It always amuses me how bghers have pride. not everyone has the skill the be a cheesy protoss. And those that don't pick terran and whine about it. On a related note Greg, do you think you would have qualified for a starleague by now if you played Protoss? i dunno about a starleague but i would be 'better' (able to win more) than i am now as terran So what you're saying is that before each game you sit there and think "yeah, I'll handicap myself, winning games is for losers" and then pick Terran? And then you blame Protoss players for not doing the same? How does that work? Surely then, by picking Terran you're getting it wrong and by the same token they're getting it right with Protoss. Complaining to people that they keep outsmarting you on the race selection option is almost as silly as maintaining that you were too good to beat an awful build. It's hardly their fault. If you're after a handicap couldn't you just play Protoss and kill one of your starting probes or not use dragoons or something? what im saying is if id had almost a year of practice in a pro team with protoss thatd be the case, obviously my terran is currently better than my protoss. they wouldnt allow a race switch. before i came to korea i did indeed switch over to pvt a month or 2 before wcg usa. was 1 game from getting out of an all terran group in wcg usa on 2 months of practice. definitely a tough race to play. Care to explain why Terrans have historically always done far better than Protoss players? Are all Terran's just naturally gifted far beyond the abilities of any Protoss player? If so, do the more gifted individuals somehow all choose Terran in order to give the appearance of balance or does the act of choosing Terran somehow make them superhuman? obviously its because certain players happened to choose terran protoss raped everything for like 2 seasons after bisu showed all the other retards that the 3 best harass units in the game and the fastest transport in the game make a pretty fuckin good combo. terran has not historically done well. nada oov and boxer have historically done well.
You are aware that nada, oov and boxer are terran players, right? That their success is a terran success.
Equally I could say that zerg have always been the weakest race, excluding JD, sAviOr and July. Or Protoss excluding Bisu, Stork, rA and Reach.
Not sure it works like that. You can't pick and choose which successes count and which don't.
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this thread just keeps building on it's already strong roots of awesomeness
:D
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On March 16 2009 22:37 randomKo_Orean wrote:
With that said, Terran did run into fewer strong challenges in the past (Boxer, Nada, oov, theMarine, Xellos just to name a few in top of my head) (Pre-savior era), hence the Terran domination in respect to history, That's why Protoss players (Kingdom, NalRa, Reach, etc.) became heroes, because amidst of such top-calibur terran players, they took OSL golds.
well that was my point. its the players who made the success, not the race. how did zerg and protoss overcome the terrans? with brilliant players like savior and bisu showing everyone else how play properly. how did terran get started out in the first place? with oov boxer and nada showing everyone how to play.
but either way its invalid to use terran's past success to judge current game balance. either individual players were responsible for the success or it was the fact that the game itself was not very well understood.
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aren't P>T arguments a bannable offence now?
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and what changed the way the game is played?..... the revolutionary players. the games were played the way they were because of boxer and nada and oov, and because their z/p equivalents lagged behind. terran has changed, sure, but flash is doing stuff oov was doing years ago, just a bit better and more refined. protoss, and especially zerg, on the other hand, have undergone massive overhauls
(mechanic tvz aside, although that was mostly oov's doing)
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On March 16 2009 23:22 Piy wrote:
aren't P>T arguments a bannable offence now?
simple p>t jokes in live report threads are
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random korean = luke, listen here faggot and this is for the record.. ur fuckin a short midet, compared to me.. im 5'10-5'11, im not tall enough 2 b a model ?? rofl, bitch ur an idiot, first of all, when we smoked cigarrettes outside.. u never ONCE.. said anything harsh at all to me, u asked me why do i bm online, and my answer was because i simply can, u never said shit about" hey if u dont stop bming " im going to have to punch ur face in.. ur a scared little bitch man, u talk shit online but in real life, u dont got the balls to get knocked in the face. u got the balls give me ur phone number again cause i didnt save it we can go 1v1, and then post reps on here and youtube. what do u say ?? ok no ?? then stfu period and keep my mouth out your name little boy, u aint paying for shit with your schooling boy', ur parents are paying everything - u dont got no job.
i doubt u got the balls to give me ur #.. what i really cant belive is how are u going to come at me with saying " o i hate how hes bm and its in real life ect.. " when u in fact were like on my fuckin jock.. u 2sided son of a bitch faggot. constantly bumming cigarettes off me because u cant afford none - you broke joke.
and 2 IDRA.. kid ur nothing
u obvsiouly got 2 much fame and glory for u 2 b declared the best T in usa ?? ROFL.. kid my mm is x2 urs .. remember that game we had on luna a while back.. i didnt even know what race u played.. this was on west in op tl.. we played luna tvp, and ur shit got raped gg 11 mins..
dude look congrats with all your fame but, seriously u need to watch some of my hunters reps, im mm is way more advanced / cordinated than yours.. yosh has better mm control then u definitely.. iM not trying to get u down at all man, seriously im not hateing.. but tvt hunters match woudlnt hurt anything me and u.. u down ? bo3.. since ur so busy --;
O AND 1 LAST THING --
yeha luke, thanks for smurfing last night u faggot on p_j_h
4-2 last night guys, and i kept the best rep .. which was a 25 min tvt.. this kid lost 3-0 tvt, rofl
its posted on bghers.com @
http://bghers.com/node/264
and hr)insane..
yeah we'd b glad to play u guys 2v2.. bgh just msg.. i said u are the #1 bgh player.. from seeing some more of your reps.. its pretty clear.. id like to 1v1 u again without u smurfing and then telling me later o this is malini.. that was pretty bm. so next time try to not hide yourself, because its kind weak.
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On March 16 2009 23:33 fuckyoufaggot wrote:
random korean = luke, listen here faggot and this is for the record.. ur fuckin a short midet, compared to me.. im 5'10-5'11, im not tall enough 2 b a model ??
sorry to burst your bubble, but 5'10, 5'11 is too short to be a male model, whoever is telling you that you can be a model is playing you for a fool rofl.
unless you consider working for no-names and not having any exposure as modeling, in which case you are just lying to yourself.
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On March 16 2009 20:58 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2009 20:44 FireEagle wrote:
If you want to win on this map, simply play terran. Static defense+battlecruisers. Block the choke with a supply+rax, make a bunker behind the supply, second supply where the rax was, thirs supply, if necessary, near the second, to complete the block. Make a factory with addon, make marines meanwhile. In the end you will have a row of supplies, followed by a row of bunkers and some siege tanks behind. Then go battlecruisers. Because of this defense, any ground atack won't work. Melee units will be delayed by the supplies and will fall to the marines in bunker and siege tanks. Ranged units will have to be clustered to atack the tanks. This blocking is verry effective against everything except all-in mutas. When you have a critical mass of battlecruisers simply 1a and it's gg. I see no flaws with this plan.
GG in 1a into 1 or 2 arbitrer with static then storm them O_o as 1 ob would see your mass bc
btw.. channel motel in East is pretty much always empty.. where is all the bgh player idle now ??
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On March 16 2009 23:22 Piy wrote:
aren't P>T arguments a bannable offence now?
agreed, let's do P>T>Z
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bet games the idiot superstar male model vs idra $100 a game please!
to make the map pool fair for both just have 1 courage map and bgh.
pleasepleaseplease i beg you guys to do it
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Croatia9555 Posts
On March 17 2009 00:11 FaCE_1 wrote:
btw.. channel motel in East is pretty much always empty.. where is all the bgh player idle now ??
They moved to channel )v( , because of spamming bots.
Also, channel marlboro on west and Brood War BGH on Europe (most civilized -.-).
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