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If Stylish doesn't have a reasonable explanation for this I'm REALLY disappointed.
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o shit....This hopefully won't be a combat-ex thing all over again
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i just lost all the respects i had for this guy. he may have been under the pressure for our approval of his skill, but man..
he didn't abuse out of a whim. it seems like he tried to hide the abuses by using multiple transfer accounts. i can't believe i watched through his "mentoring" fpvods. how can someone go out of his way to do such a thing? it's clever, but man, stop for a second and think about what you're doing.
a HUGE shame by the veteran tl.net user... bye.
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On February 27 2009 06:42 CapO wrote: i just lost all the respects i had for this guy. he may have been under the pressure for our approval of his skill, but man..
he didn't abuse out of whim. it seems like he tried to hide the abuses by using multiple transfer accounts. i can't believe i watched through his "mentoring" fpvods. how can someone go out of his way to do such thing? it's clever, but man, stop for a second and think about what you're doing.
a HUGE shame by the veteran tl.net user... bye.
I would advise against judging him just off of that. Yes, it does look like he abused, but maybe there is an explanation to this. And even if he had abused, I'm fairly certain he didn't do it to "show" off but rather to get to play against higher-ranked players. I guess it's time for him to clarify this..
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okay, the current season will be over in a few days, and you think he's gonna wanna fuck up his 78% win ratio at A- 9016? if he loses one game, he will be back to B+.
get to play against higher-ranked players? come on.. so ur basically saying we can abuse our way through low ranks so we can play higher-ranked players?
i wanna see stylish play about 20+ games before the season ends, and that is without transferring to another account. otherwise, this account is purely out of bragging as a result of abusing.
what's scary is that he planned this shit out. like WOW.
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I would find it unlikely that he abused given that he berated kwark for simply using 1 build and 1 map to gain stats. I guess we should wait for the full story before making judgments.
Regardless, I've found his build order guides to be very helpful and I hope he can continue them in the future.
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I would advise anyone judging Stylish before he gets a chance to explain himself, hopefully he'll do that asap before there's too much flame going around. I reaaallly hope it's a misunderstanding because Stylish would probably be the last guy I'd see abusing. (He's been B+ legit so many times, why would he even abuse to A-? :S) But right now its not looking too good.
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We'll hes got the skill for it anyways, even if he abused (i dont think he has but still) he has hit B+ like 10 times before so A- shouldnt be a problem for him.
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I'm sure there's an explanation for it. Stylish is a good player...he doesn't need to abuse.
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On February 27 2009 06:53 CapO wrote: okay, the current season will be over in a few days, and you think he's gonna wanna fuck up his 78% win ratio at A- 9016? if he loses one game, he will be back to B+.
get to play against higher-ranked players? come on.. so ur basically saying we can abuse our way through low ranks so we can play higher-ranked players?
i wanna see stylish play about 20+ games before the season ends, and that is without transferring to another account. otherwise, this account is purely out of bragging as a result of abusing.
what's scary is that he planned this shit out. like WOW.
No, it's not ok to abuse, that's obvious. But in the case he did, I highly doubt it was because he wanted to show off. However, I am not going to speculate any further and hope for Stylish to clarify this asap.
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lol even if he abused a little bit, doesnt make his tutorial vids suddenly illegitimate. I dunno what it is with this iccup ladder culture, its a bit too much.
Anyways thanks for the vids, I could careless if you stole 500 pts to reach the next rank, not sure why you wold but w/e.
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Really wierd. Stylish is like one of the nicest BW players ever and one of the most skilled too. I'm confused.
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whether or not stylish abused, he still did a lot for the terran community. i've learned many good builds and insights from the terran B+ level player. he still has my respect no matter what.
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On February 27 2009 06:22 Racenilatr wrote:o shit....This hopefully won't be a combat-ex thing all over again I hope to god not.
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On February 27 2009 05:47 meRz wrote:If Stylish doesn't have a reasonable explanation for this I'm REALLY disappointed.
Agreed.
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On February 27 2009 09:04 SortOf[MB] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2009 05:47 meRz wrote:If Stylish doesn't have a reasonable explanation for this I'm REALLY disappointed. Agreed. Definitely agreed. And for everyone who may discredit him, don't. That's just fucking stupid. All this is a matter of is if he got A- fairly. If he didn't, I'm disappointed he would abuse to get it. (If that's actually the case.)
But as for as his vods, his knowledge and his builds, they're all still tight, so all you D/C players who are twisting your panties over this, don't. He's still better than you and has just as much to teach you as before.
Skill wise, this is only a matter of whether he is A- or B+. (Something that in itself is a very small difference.) Ethically, I'd be disappointed if he abused to get it. But he's still awesome and spends a TON of his time contributing to the community. <3stylish.
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On February 27 2009 09:24 404.Nintu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2009 09:04 SortOf[MB] wrote:On February 27 2009 05:47 meRz wrote:If Stylish doesn't have a reasonable explanation for this I'm REALLY disappointed. Agreed. Definitely agreed. And for everyone who may discredit him, don't. That's just fucking stupid. All this is a matter of is if he got A- fairly. If he didn't, I'm disappointed he would abuse to get it. (If that's actually the case.) But as for as his vods, his knowledge and his builds, they're all still tight, so all you D/C players who are twisting your panties over this, don't. He's still better than you and has just as much to teach you as before. Skill wise, this is only a matter of whether he is A- or B+. (Something that in itself is a very small difference.) Ethically, I'd be disappointed if he abused to get it. But he's still awesome and spends a TON of his time contributing to the community. <3stylish.
imo stylish could still get a-, maybe not with a record like that (if he abused), but he definitely still could.
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On February 27 2009 09:24 404.Nintu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2009 09:04 SortOf[MB] wrote:On February 27 2009 05:47 meRz wrote:If Stylish doesn't have a reasonable explanation for this I'm REALLY disappointed. Agreed. Definitely agreed. And for everyone who may discredit him, don't. That's just fucking stupid. All this is a matter of is if he got A- fairly. If he didn't, I'm disappointed he would abuse to get it. (If that's actually the case.) But as for as his vods, his knowledge and his builds, they're all still tight, so all you D/C players who are twisting your panties over this, don't. He's still better than you and has just as much to teach you as before. Skill wise, this is only a matter of whether he is A- or B+. (Something that in itself is a very small difference.) Ethically, I'd be disappointed if he abused to get it. But he's still awesome and spends a TON of his time contributing to the community. <3stylish. Yeah, his VODs are still valid. They are pretty good, actually. But that is not the issue at hand.
Fact is that, by the looks of it, most of the information in that thread on iccup checks out. There are games that are utterly rediculous - 4 minute games with 6 units produced on each side (lol?). I'm thinking that most everyone would like to read his explanation for that.. it better be quite reasonable, indeed.. but I don't see how it could.
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On February 27 2009 09:32 meathook wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2009 09:24 404.Nintu wrote:On February 27 2009 09:04 SortOf[MB] wrote:On February 27 2009 05:47 meRz wrote:If Stylish doesn't have a reasonable explanation for this I'm REALLY disappointed. Agreed. Definitely agreed. And for everyone who may discredit him, don't. That's just fucking stupid. All this is a matter of is if he got A- fairly. If he didn't, I'm disappointed he would abuse to get it. (If that's actually the case.) But as for as his vods, his knowledge and his builds, they're all still tight, so all you D/C players who are twisting your panties over this, don't. He's still better than you and has just as much to teach you as before. Skill wise, this is only a matter of whether he is A- or B+. (Something that in itself is a very small difference.) Ethically, I'd be disappointed if he abused to get it. But he's still awesome and spends a TON of his time contributing to the community. <3stylish. Yeah, his VODs are still valid. They are pretty good, actually. But that is not the issue at hand. Fact is that, by the looks of it, most of the information in that thread on iccup checks out. There are games that are utterly rediculous - 4 minute games with 6 units produced on each side (lol?). I'm thinking that most everyone would like to read his explanation for that.. it better be quite reasonable, indeed.. but I don't see how it could. Well, if you acknowledge that this doesn't affect his vods at all, then why is this all in his vod thread? =p
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
imo stylish could still get a-, maybe not with a record like that (if he abused), but he definitely still could.
I agree completely.
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I think its bull. In all the statistics given there I have yet to see By.Stylish
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