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On February 27 2009 10:00 Elegance wrote: I think its bull. In all the statistics given there I have yet to see By.Stylish
I have the strange feeling By.Stylish = StylishBW
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please update the replays... i cant download at time... i love this post but i dont have all the links working
thanks
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On February 27 2009 10:02 DrTJEckleberg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2009 10:00 Elegance wrote: I think its bull. In all the statistics given there I have yet to see By.Stylish I have the strange feeling By.Stylish = StylishBW  Ye well im not talking about that, how does the weird evidence of 3 accounts (none of them state StylishBW or By.Stylish) relate to stylish actually doing something bad
edit: if im not understanding something here, anyone kind enough to explain?
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On February 27 2009 10:06 Elegance wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2009 10:02 DrTJEckleberg wrote:On February 27 2009 10:00 Elegance wrote: I think its bull. In all the statistics given there I have yet to see By.Stylish I have the strange feeling By.Stylish = StylishBW  Ye well im not talking about that, how does the weird evidence of 3 accounts (none of them state StylishBW or By.Stylish) relate to stylish actually doing something bad edit: if im not understanding something here, anyone kind enough to explain?
Oh, sorry. I'm assuming that when the guy says this:
"By looking at his past transfers, I was able to see where his stats originated from.
The account A-Maybe connects KTF_SplaSh with 2 other accounts that it plays against, wooknghoo and HotSpurs2
A-Maybe transfers to KTF_SplaSh A-Maybe later transfered to IcheeseAlot --> HotSpurs2 --> wooknghoo --> StylishBW"
that's the paper trail that leads into Stylish's A- account according to him. He has that tag ICCup in his name so maybe he has access to IPs and stuff too... idk
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nevertheless, still unclear (hopefully thats a good thing)
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There's a lot of gaping holes and if this Dj guy is an admin and found this why is he posting in the complaint forum instead of just banning? I really can't believe Stylish would do that, he's a really cool to talk with and having obsed/watched some reps of his he is definately capable of B+/A- without abusing.
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I'm not sure I understand... what's going on? They're saying that Stylish got his points by playing against a "KTF_Splash"? Anyway, I'm sure this is nothing... there must be a reasonable explanation.
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Whatever is true doesn't take anything away from his awesome vods!
He's still gosu :s Go Stylish! <3
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I just wanna get this out there: No one in the community particularly enjoys all the recent speculation into Stylish's legitimacy as an ICCup player. However, you must realize that you should be shy of ranting or smearing his reputation. The service he's done in this thread is significant, and if nothing else could be seen as hours of community service for his mistakes, for it really is a chore. No matter who Stylish winds up being as a gamer, I say he still gets respect for having the selflessness to get out quality FPVODs, BOs, Replays, et cetera. Finally, I suppose my least important goal of this post is to try and get this thread back to a discussion of stats/bo questions where it belongs, for I'm sure Stylish will have his karma come back to him if he deserves it.
Still Love Here From, Erphniirls
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On February 28 2009 03:41 Erphniirls wrote: I just wanna get this out there: No one in the community particularly enjoys all the recent speculation into Stylish's legitimacy as an ICCup player. However, you must realize that you should be shy of ranting or smearing his reputation. The service he's done in this thread is significant, and if nothing else could be seen as hours of community service for his mistakes, for it really is a chore. No matter who Stylish winds up being as a gamer, I say he still gets respect for having the selflessness to get out quality FPVODs, BOs, Replays, et cetera. Finally, I suppose my least important goal of this post is to try and get this thread back to a discussion of stats/bo questions where it belongs, for I'm sure Stylish will have his karma come back to him if he deserves it.
Still Love Here From, Erphniirls
Couldn't agree more, keep it up Stylish.
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Hmm I haven't seen Stylish write anything since this scandal get out. I wonder what he's up to
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On February 28 2009 03:41 Erphniirls wrote: I just wanna get this out there: No one in the community particularly enjoys all the recent speculation into Stylish's legitimacy as an ICCup player. However, you must realize that you should be shy of ranting or smearing his reputation. The service he's done in this thread is significant, and if nothing else could be seen as hours of community service for his mistakes, for it really is a chore. No matter who Stylish winds up being as a gamer, I say he still gets respect for having the selflessness to get out quality FPVODs, BOs, Replays, et cetera. Finally, I suppose my least important goal of this post is to try and get this thread back to a discussion of stats/bo questions where it belongs, for I'm sure Stylish will have his karma come back to him if he deserves it.
Still Love Here From, Erphniirls
I'm posting to back this up 100%. Even if you for some reason actually think less of Stylish's quality work here, or don't think him as good a player as his record indicates (and it seems obvious from actually watching his FPVODs that he is), this thread is not the place to BS about it.
Consider this a thank you to Stylish for such an incredibly helpful resource, btw. I love the pronunciations, and if anything the Swedish accent actually helps me get more into it, as I've largely been playing with Swedish gamers over the years. It's eerily comforting and easy to listen to. =P
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On February 28 2009 06:03 ZeKk wrote: Hmm I haven't seen Stylish write anything since this scandal get out. I wonder what he's up to
i think he's sick, he has been for a while.
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Hi guys! Sorry I haven't been able to post sooner, I've been working my ass off at work dual shifts and then I had to fix some things before I could post. This have to be somewhat long, im not great at writing this stuff but I'll try my best.
It all started when Exigent posted my FPVODs on gosugamers.net. Gosugamers thread
Thats fine, nothing wrong with that, I'm glad if more people can check out my VODs. However, there were alot talking going on in that thread involving LastShadow and other people. Pulimuli mentioned that he thinks my tvz is very good and then it started. example: LS wrote "i have seen him play, i have played against him with zerg and protoss and terran, and seen him play C+ rank zergs and lose."
Now at first I didn't care that much about it. But once the discussion went on, they even opened a new thread talking about me (now i haven't even replied once in that thread) the other thread , i started to get abit upset frankly. All I've done is to put my VODs out there to help people improve their terran play and I get alot of shit from people without ever have talking to them, also never ever have i said my tvz is top outside korea or bragged about anything in my VODs. But I will say it here then, yes I do believe, and Im almost sure about it, that my TvZ very well could get A- with a good rec. This based on players that I have practiced against. Such as haypro and naugim.
So I stopped for a while and thought about it. There were two ways i could shut them up. Either i started playing alot of games and got A- so people could see me, or i could use my already B+ smurfs accounts and abuse myself to A- to show the viewers that my TvZ is A-. This is only to show people how compitent my VODs are so they can decide wether or not they want to listen to my advice. And since I've been sick for a while now, and working double shift (thats why I havent been on ventrilo for like a week) i figured I'd call my brother and ask him to get me to A- and so I did. Therefor yes I abused to A-.
However, what is important to know, is that I didn't try to show people some skill that I didn't possess. I didn't try to fool the community or get respect that i didn't deserve. I simply tried to show people the fact that my TvZ is probably A- material, and I hope some of you might already have noticed watching my VODs. And it would take quite some while to get from B to A- playing TvZ and I figured, wth why not just take 1 hour and get there and show you the result. That way I could use the time to more important stuff, such as sleep and recording more VODs, coz I haven't recorded a vod since like 10th february.
I guess I'm not used to get so much attention. I haven't been playing any official games and I havent been that known to the scene so I never thought it would lead to such wild flames and reactions. I can't really say that Im sorry for abusing, for I actually believe that the purpose would cover the means (i dont know if thats correct english). I'll say it again: I didnt want to show you guys like, hey im this good look at me, if I didn't possess that skill. And since I think I do, I didn't really think of it as such a bad thing, although maybe bad for russia since we got ahead of them on the countryrankings when i got A- lol).
Wha, this is getting long and im pretty tired ill just continue with this: Now that i came home from work and saw that someone detected my abusegames i was like oh no, well i guess i'll have to play legit then? So therefor, starting from yesterday i believe, even with working alot on my job I started to play on StylishTvZz since I felt I owed it to the community. I played like 15 straight games when i got home from work and today ive played like another 15 games. I got 8900 and then i guess im starting to feel tired coz i havent slept very well because of all this hate towards me, so I lost 2-3 games and am atm on 8700. I was really hoping i would win that last game on 8900 so i could post this, coz it was the whole meaning of the massgaming, but I feel like you have the right to know and I actually dont know if i can muster any more energy to play today, ive been playing for 10 straight hours now.
Now if you want me to, I will continue playing and will not sleep until I reach A-, and it was this, exactly this, that i wanted to avoid. Feeling the preassure and having to play for hours and hours to show you that my TvZ was comitent enough for making VODs. I guess I failed, since those guys were so eager to flame me. Now I've played for about 20 hours on 2 days and I could very well have used that time to record vods instead.
I was going to play more games now, and I wasnt gonna post this until I reached A- but im having a hard time finding games atm since its the very last minute of season and most people dodge me. Game seachtime is like 30min + and its sad.
Here is some of the replays on my way to A-. I dont know how to make a pack of it so i uploaded them one by one. (hence anyone calling me a hacker is wayyyyyy off i barely know how to open microsoft word) game1 game2 game3 game4 game5 game6 game7 game8 game9 game10
Im sorry i couldnt include all the games, my autoreplay isn't working and i don't know how to fix it, so i tried to save whenever I could remember...
I'm sorry if I've offended anyone. I've only wanted to help the community out, spending counless of hours recording vods and doing guides for you guys. I wanted to show the community that my tvz was A- skill and i took the easy way out since i knew that the outcome would be the same and I didn't feel like i owed the community to play many hours just to show you that my VODs are good. I really didn't have time to game to A- but ive been playing whenever i've been able to for the last 3 days and slept like 3hours a day.
I never did any of this for my ego. I didn't enter a tournament and maphacked or something so i would win something that i couldnt win. I haven't actually done anything to anyone here except posted VODs and guides and i find it abit sad that so many reactions are so harsh.
I wouldnt care if people think my tvz is bad or whatever, i dont seek attention and i dont think i will play official games coz the foreign community is too harsh for that in my oppinion and i play badly under preassure. But i wouldnt let people talk about that my strategies are bad and that my VODs arent good. I've spent way too much time to let that pass without any reaction.
About the record. was like 85-25 wasn't an attempt to fool you either. The account i've played on since then has like 10 losses from B to 8700 (at one point 1 game away from A-) and since going from b to a- is much harder than d to B i guess a total losscount of like 20-30 games is fairly representable for my tvz.
Im sorry that I coulnt say anything to my friends on ventrilo about this, but they already knew my tvz so i actually figured that they wouldnt care that much and i really hope they understand after reading this.
Now if anyone feel offended feel free to flame me. What i've written here is the whole truth and if you have questions I will answer them. I have no interest of having an A- for egoistic purposes so if you want me to record some VODs on A- vs koreans i can do so. I would gladly have used the last 3 days to record VODs instead of massgaming on Iccup to show you guys what I already know.
If some are dissapointed at me then i guess you have the rght to be but i dont think i deserve that reaction because of what i've written here. If you cannot understand then i guess im very different to the rest of you. Im on my last days of playing bw, that why i started making my VODs. I will quit bw in the summer and then i will probably not start again. Everything i've done these last months was for the community, you can believe it or not, i dont really care. If you dont want to watch my VODs and want to flame me for this then fine, it doesnt matter to me. I only felt I had to post this to explain to the people that like me and my friends on bw. They deserved to know the truth.
Thnx to those who have been patient, im glad some of you take this as lightly as i have. For i really cannot see that i've been mean to anyone what so ever. Im going to watch this thread for a while now and answer questions. I hope you understand what I've been trying to say, i know my english might not be the best...
edit: maybe this was a good thing after all, i feel more eager to make a vod now than before, and ive tried out alot of new strategies on B+ that i can show in my vod. One including 2port wraith, so i guess d1v will be happy atleast^^
/Stylish
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stylish, we know you have a- tvz. you don't have to rush there to show us that. just take your time and get there legit, we all know you can do it. if you're sick just wait until you get better and continue playing. you don't need to stay up all night playing.
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On March 01 2009 04:55 404.Nitrogen wrote: stylish, we know you have a- tvz. you don't have to rush there to show us that. just take your time and get there legit, we all know you can do it. if you're sick just wait until you get better and continue playing. you don't need to stay up all night playing.
season ends like today, thats why, if i wanted to show it was a- i had to play alot. thats the whole reason why i abused. I didn't have that much time to spend and still live healthy ://
whats wierd is that i actually feel like i owe it to the community, but when i think about it its not very logical. all this work and then i get this reaction for a couple of games that didnt mean anything.. t_t
I heard someone saying oh no not another combat-ex, what does that even mean? i gotta go to the store and buy some redbulls. after that i will continue to play or record some vods i havent decided yet.
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your vods are awesome even if you dont reach a- now, theres no better source to improve for terrans. i had my doubts myself but after watching them it's obvious that you're very skilled
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Don't worry stylish you're awesome, and nobody can say otherwise. Your VODs have helped an incredible number of people. You don't have to prove anything to anybody! I'm saddened to hear that you're going to be quitting Starcraft; I personally am thankful for everything you've done for the community - Stylish hwaiting!
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I just watched "Frost/Nixon" and your post felt way more dramatic than it was probably meant to be 
Seriously man i don't care if you abused and what rank your tvz is in a ladder. All i can say is that thanks to your vods and explanations i played like 30 games in a row. And i've never done that. Ever. Thanks to you i enjoy my favorite race even more and the game itself got so much more fun.
Respect for all the work and thanks for all the help.
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Well Stylish, i just read your post and i am a little bit surprised. You are such a great contributer to the community and its not like you maphacked or something like that. So you abused a bit, you did something wrong wroooong. Don't do it again. Ok read it ? Then get some sleep (and if you feel like it make some awesome Vods against A- Koreans. )
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