EPT[Patch 8.24] Neeko Release General Discussion - Page 3
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evilfatsh1t
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DarkCore
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Clones are annoying, but honestly I have never seen an in game example of someone exploiting them, it's too niche. | ||
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AdsMoFro
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On December 19 2018 08:50 Slusher wrote: I actually strongly dislike the Akali change, not what was nerfed or how hard, but scaling detached from performance is gross and should not be praised She snowball(ed?) way too hard in her current state, making her re-stealth scale off time was honestly the most elegant way to tone it down without completely changing her shroud. Love the Caitlyn ult buff. Played with a Caitlyn mid a week or two ago that rushed Ghostblade+CDR boots and just ulted their ADC on cooldown and ran back to her lane, it was hilarious and must have been so tilt inducing. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
She's seeing a lot of play in KeSPA right now, so pros obviously see something in her. ulted their ADC on cooldown and ran back to her lane I want to try this out. | ||
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iCanada
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On December 19 2018 21:08 DarkCore wrote: Really agree with the annoying bit. I don't consider her damage too bad, Zoe was/is much more worse. But she is about as anti fun as it gets to play against for a low ranged or melee champion, because her abilities are practically impossible to dodge, and that ult lol. And if you play a champion that can dodge, most likely your CD are longer and more expensive than hers, so it kind of works in her favour anyway. Only good thing is that assassins destroy her, but only Pyke fits that role in the bot lane. Clones are annoying, but honestly I have never seen an in game example of someone exploiting them, it's too niche. As a jungler, I dont think its niche at all. Its colours basically every interaction you have with every champion in the whole game. MFW when the hard int ADC with 100 HP and no sums that for some reason is still under their bot tower after having a chance to back and leaving vision is actually a Neeko with full HP that Ult+Roots you for ages... X_X And once you been killed by it once, you get mindfucked forever more. Every time you see someone inting you subconsciously think its a Neeko baiting the shit out of you and that you can't kill it. Even if you get over it and figure it out, it adds hesitation. Super super strong, makes it hard to punish mistakes because your window to make a play is cut drastically by the time it takes to process if that is or isn't Neeko, like even if you see her on the other side of the map or something. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4093 Posts
On December 20 2018 05:04 iCanada wrote: As a jungler, I dont think its niche at all. Its colours basically every interaction you have with every champion in the whole game. MFW when the hard int ADC with 100 HP and no sums that for some reason is still under their bot tower after having a chance to back and leaving vision is actually a Neeko with full HP that Ult+Roots you for ages... X_X And once you been killed by it once, you get mindfucked forever more. Every time you see someone inting you subconsciously think its a Neeko baiting the shit out of you and that you can't kill it. Even if you get over it and figure it out, it adds hesitation. Super super strong, makes it hard to punish mistakes because your window to make a play is cut drastically by the time it takes to process if that is or isn't Neeko, like even if you see her on the other side of the map or something. Really? I felt like she just has a good abilities set and the chameleon thing is mostly cosmetics with some usefulness in it from time to time | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
MFW when the hard int ADC with 100 HP and no sums that for some reason is still under their bot tower after having a chance to back and leaving vision is actually a Neeko with full HP that Ult+Roots you for ages... X_X Oh come on, that's like the most obvious bait ever  . In reality, those situations are pretty avoidable and the cases where it causes justified confusion are super rare, that is what I mean by niche. Ex: Riot's showcase had Renekton walk into a brush, and Neeko coming out, I've never seen this interaction exploited in soloQ. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9082 Posts
On December 19 2018 23:17 Jek wrote: She snowball(ed?) way too hard in her current state, making her re-stealth scale off time was honestly the most elegant way to tone it down without completely changing her shroud. Love the Caitlyn ult buff. Played with a Caitlyn mid a week or two ago that rushed Ghostblade+CDR boots and just ulted their ADC on cooldown and ran back to her lane, it was hilarious and must have been so tilt inducing. Always considered Cait's rank 1 ult almost useless, but now I'm worried it might be too strong. It has to be extremely frustrating to be constantly poked with her long range autos and point and click ultimates. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On December 20 2018 07:06 DarkCore wrote: Oh come on, that's like the most obvious bait ever . In reality, those situations are pretty avoidable and the cases where it causes justified confusion are super rare, that is what I mean by niche. Ex: Riot's showcase had Renekton walk into a brush, and Neeko coming out, I've never seen this interaction exploited in soloQ.You apparently don't know what kinda int we see down here in gold. LOL. When I'm trying to climb usually i just auto assume everyone is inting and not baiting and usually i legit hard stomp. People do a lot of dumb shit just waiting for you to poop on them. Hoping almost. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On December 20 2018 07:07 Sent. wrote: Always considered Cait's rank 1 ult almost useless, but now I'm worried it might be too strong. It has to be extremely frustrating to be constantly poked with her long range autos and point and click ultimates. Haha yeah. The first seemingly random ult got the "?" reply from their Jhin. Then it happend again and again and again and again and we never saw the "?" again. I swear, it seems like it have no cooldown when she has 20% CDR (might have been even more, didn't see if she had any of the CDR or ultimate runes). Would imagine it being even worse for the mid if it came from bot to mid constantly since midlaners usually have very high kill threat at 6+. On December 20 2018 07:06 DarkCore wrote: Oh come on, that's like the most obvious bait ever . In reality, those situations are pretty avoidable and the cases where it causes justified confusion are super rare, that is what I mean by niche. Ex: Riot's showcase had Renekton walk into a brush, and Neeko coming out, I've never seen this interaction exploited in soloQ.I had a game where our Neeko backed at same time we did and told me to delay coming to lane so she could pretend to be me (support) for the sneak gank. Sadly they didn't fall for it, but it was a cute idea.  EDIT: Now that I think about it, Neeko with a premade support sounds mega fun. Pick a mage "support", Morg/Brand/Xerath, and switch them between mid and support when the "mid" goes "support" first time pick up Spellthief. Against Neeko you dont want to stand behind minions, again the three you want to stand behind minions. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On December 20 2018 07:11 iCanada wrote: You apparently don't know what kinda int we see down here in gold. LOL. When I'm trying to climb usually i just auto assume everyone is inting and not baiting and usually i legit hard stomp. People do a lot of dumb shit just waiting for you to poop on them. Hoping almost. I do actually because I didn't play ranked almost all last season, went on a massive losing streak and am sitting in G1/P5. Games are fiestas, but ironically people seem to never fall for the things that actually seem to require brain power. Against Neeko you dont want to stand behind minions, again the three you want to stand behind minions. Yes, I think there's lots of stuff to exploit, especially in premades and pro play, but not in soloQ. | ||
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eagle
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cLutZ
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
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Uldridge
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
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Uldridge
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On December 21 2018 05:11 Uldridge wrote: KeSPA cup is being played right now. There's no information about it here but KeSPA's youtube channel has put the English broadcasts on there. It's in the calendar  It's on the KESPA Youtube channel. Link here. Liquipedia link to the tournament info here. Also, there's the Demacia Cup going on rn too (also in the calendar!). Doyu Chinese stream link here. Liquipedia link here. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
Since tomorrow isn't an exciting game, I'll be clicking through Demacia Cup, nothing like seeing some good CN bloodbath. | ||
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